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Boycott Florida Orange Juice

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PJx - 28 Jan 2004 17:06 GMT
Actually I don't necessarily recommend the boycott but just wanted to
let the viewers know that they (the orange growers group),  were upset
with Atkins and other low-carb diet plans.    I saw this on a news
show and it said basically that they are ready to pounce on advocates
of the low-carb plans that are saying bad things about the high sugar
content of orange juice.

Sounds like the oprah and beef thing.

PJ
Jean B. - 28 Jan 2004 17:49 GMT
> Actually I don't necessarily recommend the boycott but just wanted to
> let the viewers know that they (the orange growers group),  were upset
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>
> PJ

Hey!  I'll say a "bad thing"--Tropicana's Light and Healthy STILL
contains to many carbs (17g per cup IIRC).  
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Jenny - 28 Jan 2004 19:37 GMT
Jean,

I've told my kids for years that orange juice has so much sugar in it, it
makes regular Pepsi look like healthfood.

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> > Actually I don't necessarily recommend the boycott but just wanted to
> > let the viewers know that they (the orange growers group),  were upset
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> --
> Jean B.
Crafting Mom - 28 Jan 2004 19:57 GMT
> Jean,
>
> I've told my kids for years that orange juice has so much sugar in it, it
> makes regular Pepsi look like healthfood.

I agree.

The juice concentrates the natural fruit sugar.  Whereas with a
real bonafide orange, you get less concentration of sugar, more
filling experience, less calories, and less carbohydrate (one whole
orange has 20-30 grams depending on size), more fibre.  One
8 oz glass of orange juice contains the sugar of about 8-10 oranges.

I don't eat whole oranges, but every now and then when my children
have oranges I will have a section or two.  (I am not diabetic, but I
avoid sweeter fruits in large quantities).
Teeb - 28 Jan 2004 20:16 GMT
LOL I always snitch a couple when my kids eat them too. Really cold and
sweet and *almost* makes you feel bad for eating it, lol..

Teeb

> > Jean,
> >
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> have oranges I will have a section or two.  (I am not diabetic, but I
> avoid sweeter fruits in large quantities).
Reb - 28 Jan 2004 22:15 GMT
> The juice concentrates the natural fruit sugar.  Whereas with a
> real bonafide orange, you get less concentration of sugar, more
> filling experience, less calories, and less carbohydrate (one whole
> orange has 20-30 grams depending on size), more fibre.  One
> 8 oz glass of orange juice contains the sugar of about 8-10 oranges.

Maybe I'm using particularly large or juicy oranges, but I can get nearly a
cup of juice out of just one orange; two oranges for sure.  According to the
USDA database 8 ounces of orange juice have about 25 g carbs.

It's not something I drink very often, but I love orange juice and don't
feel bad about having it occasionally.  While it's true that it lacks most
of the fiber a whole orange contains, it is not completely devoid of
nutrition.  It has only a moderate glycemic index and glycemic load, and
even that can be improved if other lower glycemic foods are eaten at the
same time.  It's certainly not an induction food, and some people might have
trouble with it triggering cravings, but for many people, it's a reasonable
beverage to have from time to time.

Reb
tcomeau - 28 Jan 2004 22:27 GMT
> > Jean,
> >
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> have oranges I will have a section or two.  (I am not diabetic, but I
> avoid sweeter fruits in large quantities).

My sister-in-law made a silly mistake with her first two kids. She
wanted them to have some fluids at night in their cribs in case they
were thirsty. She gave them orange juice or apple juice in a bottle,
all healthy and natural juices of course.

The sugars and the acidity of the juices in their mouths, all night
long, night after night, cost her over a couple of thousand dollars in
dental bills, not to mention having to have the kids at 1 or 2 years
old suffer and go thru many dental visits with injections and
fillings, etc. It was horrendous on them.

TC
LCer09 - 29 Jan 2004 14:51 GMT
>The sugars and the acidity of the juices in their mouths, all night
>long, night after night, cost her over a couple of thousand dollars in
>dental bills, not to mention having to have the kids at 1 or 2 years
>old suffer and go thru many dental visits with injections and
>fillings, etc. It was horrendous on them.

Gawd, she didn't learn after the first child's teeth rotted out? The lactic
acid in mink will do this too. That's why there are 873,345,287,394 signs in
most ob/gyn and pediatrician's offices that say "nothing in night time bottles
(a nasty habit to give a kid anyway) but WATER!" in several languages and
cartoons.

LCing since 12/01/03-
Me- 265/234/140
& hubby- 310/260/180
The Queen of Cans and Jars - 29 Jan 2004 15:16 GMT
> >The sugars and the acidity of the juices in their mouths, all night
> >long, night after night, cost her over a couple of thousand dollars in
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> Gawd, she didn't learn after the first child's teeth rotted out? The lactic
> acid in mink will do this too.

but just think of all the calories you'd burn trying to stuff a mink
into a baby bottle!
LCer09 - 29 Jan 2004 17:38 GMT
>> Gawd, she didn't learn after the first child's teeth rotted out? The lactic
>> acid in mink will do this too.
>
>but just think of all the calories you'd burn trying to stuff a mink
>into a baby bottle!

Oops! My mistake for not proofreading. But the L & K keys are right next to
each other! LOL! You could always throw a mink in the food processor and then
stuff it in the bottle I guess. :-)

LCing since 12/01/03-
Me- 265/234/140
& hubby- 310/260/180
The Queen of Cans and Jars - 30 Jan 2004 09:12 GMT
> >> Gawd, she didn't learn after the first child's teeth rotted out? The lactic
> >> acid in mink will do this too.
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> each other! LOL! You could always throw a mink in the food processor and then
> stuff it in the bottle I guess. :-)

mmm, chunky mink.  

hee!
Jean B. - 28 Jan 2004 22:39 GMT
> Jean,
>
> I've told my kids for years that orange juice has so much sugar in it, it
> makes regular Pepsi look like healthfood.

That's pretty disgusting, isn't it?  And my grape juice was REALLY
bad.  (Today's beverage has been 3/8 Light Cranberry Juice
Cocktail, 1/8 pure unsweetened cranberry juice [Lakewood's seems
to be the lowest in carbs], and 1/2 Cranberry-Raspberry Iced
Botanical.)  

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Reb - 28 Jan 2004 23:59 GMT
> I've told my kids for years that orange juice has so much sugar in it, it
> makes regular Pepsi look like healthfood.

What orange juice is this??

Pepsi, 8 ounces:  27g carbs, 27g sugar

Orange juice, 8 ounces:  26g carbs, .5g fiber, 21g sugar ...plus large
amounts of potassium, vitamin C, vitamin A and bioflavonoids.

I'll take the orange juice.

Reb
DMF - 29 Jan 2004 01:24 GMT
Jenny wrote...
> I've told my kids for years that orange juice has so much sugar in it, it
> makes regular Pepsi look like healthfood.

Long before I discover LC,  I stopped drinking sodas and OJ because
I realized that they were essentially sugar water. I didn't think that eating
a bowl of sugar with every meal would be good for me -- so why would
the liquid form be any better.

Regards,
David
 
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