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No Cal Sugars Spike Blood Sugar Level?

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firstjois - 28 Jan 2004 18:06 GMT
Gee, I saw something about this a couple of days ago and then lost it.  I
am not a diabetic.  I am curious to know if the sugar replacements like
Equal, Splenda, and others actually do anything to insulin or blood sugar
or does the body just ignore them.  If they do, are there any that are
especially recommended to diabetics?

TIA,
Jois

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Hanging Chad - 28 Jan 2004 18:41 GMT
> Gee, I saw something about this a couple of days ago and then lost it.  I
> am not a diabetic.  I am curious to know if the sugar replacements like
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> TIA,
> Jois

Splenda definitately gives me higher blood readings. I wondered if it being
so close to sugar chemically could be causing the meter to register
incorrectly, but my Dr. had no useful information on this, nor could I
discover anything through the net, so as a Diabetic I stopped using Splenda.

Garth
PJx - 28 Jan 2004 18:54 GMT
>> Gee, I saw something about this a couple of days ago and then lost it.  I
>> am not a diabetic.  I am curious to know if the sugar replacements like
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>
>Garth

Well, on the Atkins web site, It NOW says that during induction, you
can have NO more than 3 packets of splenda per day.

 I really think that the last word on Spenda and GI hasn't been
written yet.

PJ
Doug Freyburger - 28 Jan 2004 22:44 GMT
>  Well, on the Atkins web site, It NOW says that during induction, you
> can have NO more than 3 packets of splenda per day.

Nothing new there.  Any type of artificial sweetener that comes in a
packet uses sugar for filler, so they are all about 1 gram per packet
no matter which AS is in it.  I remember that leading to a limit as
far back as 1999 when I started.  The limit of 3 was formalized years
ago.

>   I really think that the last word on Spenda and GI hasn't been
> written yet.

Definitely.  There's the 17 year patent process.  For 17 years only
the patent holder can make a product, so they only release positive
news and they sue over any negative news.  But they also hoard negative
news for when their patent runs out.  Then in year 17 the generic
knock-offs start coming out *and* the original producer starts
releasing the negative news.  Since they have the best established
brand name, negative news hurts them less than it hurts the generics.
The cycle has happened with each AS in sequence over the years, so it
is only a matter of time before it happens with splenda.

But I know people who have issues with aspartame and I don't know
people who have issues with other AS.  That makes it likely that
other AS cause less problems than aspartame.
Jenny - 28 Jan 2004 19:32 GMT
Pure Splenda shouldn't raise your blood sugar. HOWEVER, the stuff you buy in
boxes in the store is cut with maltodextrin which is a regular sugar and
there is half a gram of maltodextrin in every teaspoon. (I used to get it
from Canada where they make them put that .5 gram on the label. The US lets
them round down.)  That can work out to quite a lot of fast acting sugar in
a larger serving. That is why using the powdered Splenda can raise the blood
sugar of a person with diabetes.

To avoid this problem, I use DaVinci sugar free syrups which are sweetened
with liquid splenda and contain no maltodextrin. They can be used for
cooking  and baking (1 tsp liquid = 1 tsp powder, but don't use in recipes
where too much liquid is a problem.)  I have never detected any blood sugar
rise after using them.

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> Gee, I saw something about this a couple of days ago and then lost it.  I
> am not a diabetic.  I am curious to know if the sugar replacements like
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>    "Once you know, you know"
> The Unified Field of Know Theory
Hanging Chad - 28 Jan 2004 19:56 GMT
> Pure Splenda shouldn't raise your blood sugar. HOWEVER, the stuff you buy in
> boxes in the store is cut with maltodextrin which is a regular sugar and
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> -- Jenny  - Low Carbing for 4 years. At goal for weight. Type 2 diabetes,
> hba1c 5.2.

Thanks for the info, that makes everything make sense now.

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- 29 Jan 2004 02:10 GMT
| Pure Splenda shouldn't raise your blood sugar. HOWEVER, the stuff you buy
| in boxes in the store is cut with maltodextrin which is a regular sugar
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| where too much liquid is a problem.)  I have never detected any blood
| sugar rise after using them.

Hmmm, I guess this reasonably explains why I can't eat Splenda; it gives me
mild sugar cravings.  It makes sense now that it's not the sucralose but the
maltodextrin "filler."  I have some DaVinci's SF vanilla syrup that I got a
WalMart and  haven't opened yet -- next time I whip some cream will try
adding some to it instead of powdered AS.  ( I use saccharine usually, but
in whipped cream it just doesn't work.  Not sweet enough or bitter or
something).

Pete
Cubit - 28 Jan 2004 19:51 GMT
I use lots of Liquid Spenda with no rises on my Blood Glucose Meter.

I bought the Liquid Splenda at:

http://www.locarber.com/store/index.php?&prodID=zcs-001

(I don't work for them.)

Cubit  (type 2)
308/283/165
firstjois - 28 Jan 2004 22:51 GMT
: I use lots of Liquid Spenda with no rises on my Blood Glucose Meter.
:
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: Cubit  (type 2)
: 308/283/165

Thanks, all, that was helpful and I even realized (duh) that I could look
at the box (dextrose, maltodextrin, sucralose) and then check the web site
www.splenda.com
and see what they had to say about themselves - They said that their
patented multistep process alters the sugars into something that is sweet
and which is not recognized by the body as either a carbohydrate or a
sugar.  Even so something is left that is under the US guidelines. . . and
so on.  Guess if you were diabetic you'd have to test it out for yourself?

Thanks!

Jois
Sheena - 28 Jan 2004 22:58 GMT
>I use lots of Liquid Spenda with no rises on my Blood Glucose Meter.
>
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>Cubit  (type 2)
>308/283/165

Thanks. I may try a few things from there.
- 29 Jan 2004 01:33 GMT
| Gee, I saw something about this a couple of days ago and then lost it.  I
| am not a diabetic.  I am curious to know if the sugar replacements like
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
|    "Once you know, you know"
| The Unified Field of Know Theory

Splenda, Aspartame and Sugar Alcohols all do bad things to me, one way or
another (either BG spikes or sugar cravings).   I use saccharine (Sweet n'
Low) as my AS of choice with no problems at all.

Please be aware that, from everything I've read -- including a lot of posts
here on ASDLC -- the effects of AS vary greatly from person to person.
Bottom line, IMO, is that you'll have to just experiment and see what
does/doesn't work for you.
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