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Tim - 28 Jan 2004 14:39 GMT
Is low carb bread (6gr. a slice) allowed AFTER
induction?
I did the induction back in Sept. and been having an awful craving for a
grilled cheese sandwich. Two slices of bread 70 cals, one tbsp butter
102 cals, one oz. of cheese 100 cals.
If so how often, couple times a week? TIA
Brenda - 28 Jan 2004 15:22 GMT
>Is low carb bread (6gr. a slice) allowed AFTER
>induction?
>I did the induction back in Sept. and been having an awful craving for a
>grilled cheese sandwich. Two slices of bread 70 cals, one tbsp butter
>102 cals, one oz. of cheese 100 cals.
>If so how often, couple times a week? TIA

I began eating grilled cheese on low carb bread once I moved to OWL. As with
everything, count the carbs (and the calories if you're like me).

Brenda
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The Queen of Cans and Jars - 28 Jan 2004 15:25 GMT
> Is low carb bread (6gr. a slice) allowed AFTER induction? I did the
> induction back in Sept. and been having an awful craving for a grilled
> cheese sandwich. Two slices of bread 70 cals, one tbsp butter 102 cals,
> one oz. of cheese 100 cals. If so how often, couple times a week? TIA

it's up to you.  it depends on what your carb limit is, and whether or
not you can stop at just two slices of bread.  i myself don't have any
problem with that, but other people report that even one slice leads to
a slippery slope.

your mileage, as always, may vary.
April Goodwin-Smith - 28 Jan 2004 21:02 GMT
> > Is low carb bread (6gr. a slice) allowed AFTER induction?
> > <snip>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> i myself don't have any problem with that, but other people
> report that even one slice leads to a slippery slope.

Ooo.  Me.  Rye Bread toasted.  French Bread grilled with garlic
butter ooooozing out of its pores.  Fresh French or Italian
hard crust with camembert in heaps upon it.  Not a bite; not
a sniff may I have.  It's more like a stage drop trapdoor than
just a merely over-greased slope for me.

Oh well.

April.
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The Queen of Cans and Jars - 29 Jan 2004 03:30 GMT
> > > Is low carb bread (6gr. a slice) allowed AFTER induction?
> > > <snip>
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>
> Oh well.

(((((April)))))
April Goodwin-Smith - 29 Jan 2004 06:38 GMT
> > > > Is low carb bread (6gr. a slice) allowed AFTER induction?
> > > it's up to you.  it depends on what your carb limit is,
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>
> (((((April)))))

'kyou.

It's the galling realization that I have no control over
it - that I must even go so far as to prevent restaurants
from supplying toast on my plate.

Oh Goddess - I turn out to be human after all.   :)

April.
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The Queen of Cans and Jars - 30 Jan 2004 09:12 GMT
> > > > > Is low carb bread (6gr. a slice) allowed AFTER induction?
> > > > it's up to you.  it depends on what your carb limit is,
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>
> Oh Goddess - I turn out to be human after all.   :)

you & me both, sister.  i can stop at two slices of bread, but don't
talk to me about chocolate unless you want to see me weep.
Jean B. - 30 Jan 2004 12:28 GMT
> you & me both, sister.  i can stop at two slices of bread, but don't
> talk to me about chocolate unless you want to see me weep.

LC bread in a sandwich is a lot less dangerous (for me) than nice
warm bread in a bread basket.  Now chocolate--I'm a chocoholic who
is allergic to chocolate, so I have some incentive to be good.
(If I am not, I pay with migraines.)
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The Queen of Cans and Jars - 30 Jan 2004 14:43 GMT
> > you & me both, sister.  i can stop at two slices of bread, but don't
> > talk to me about chocolate unless you want to see me weep.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> is allergic to chocolate, so I have some incentive to be good.
> (If I am not, I pay with migraines.)

yeah, i pretty much limit my bread consumption to open-faced fried egg
sammiches in the morning (toast, mustard, slice o' cheese, egg, yum).  i
don't buy specifically low carb bread, but i use the ezekiel flourless
sprouted grain stuff which is low enough for those of us who aim for the
100g/day limit.  

i don't know what i'd do if i was allergic to chocolate.  i suppose i'd
butch up and deal with it, but it sounds tough.  migraines are a pretty
good motivator, though.  heh.  as long as i only buy a single serving of
chocolate, i'm ok.  i can eat just that and be fine.  but if there is
more than one serving around, it is almost impossible to stop myself
from having more.  i know damn well that it's the wrong thing to do, but
it is a very difficult urge to overcome.
April Goodwin-Smith - 30 Jan 2004 20:12 GMT
> <snip>  as long as i only buy a single serving of chocolate,
> i'm ok.  i can eat just that and be fine.  but if there is
> more than one serving around, it is almost impossible to
> stop myself from having more.  i know damn well that it's
> the wrong thing to do, but it is a very difficult urge
> to overcome.

Aye.  There's the rub.

April.
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The Queen of Cans and Jars - 31 Jan 2004 18:57 GMT
> > <snip>  as long as i only buy a single serving of chocolate,
> > i'm ok.  i can eat just that and be fine.  but if there is
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Aye.  There's the rub.

alas, knowing something and being able to put it into action are not
always mutually inclusive.  still, i manage make the right choice more
often than not these days, so i think there's hope for the future.
Stephen S - 31 Jan 2004 03:34 GMT
In response to The Queen of Cans and Jars's post:

>> It's the galling realization that I have no control over
>> it - that I must even go so far as to prevent restaurants
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> you & me both, sister.  i can stop at two slices of bread, but don't
> talk to me about chocolate unless you want to see me weep.

Garlic toast, or most of all the biscuits at Red Lobster. I can *not*
resist those garlic biscuits.
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Luna - 28 Jan 2004 16:40 GMT
> Is low carb bread (6gr. a slice) allowed AFTER
> induction?
> I did the induction back in Sept. and been having an awful craving for a
> grilled cheese sandwich. Two slices of bread 70 cals, one tbsp butter
> 102 cals, one oz. of cheese 100 cals.
> If so how often, couple times a week? TIA

Awww, man, now I want grilled cheese too. I think how often you can have
the sandwich really depends on whether or not the bread triggers cravings
for you.

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Doug Freyburger - 28 Jan 2004 20:59 GMT
> Is low carb bread (6gr. a slice) allowed AFTER
> induction?

The carb ladder appears in the 2002 edition of DANDR.  Maybe you
have an earlier edition, maybe you have the wrong book by Dr A.
The carb ladder lists what carb foods should by tried during OWL
in what order.  It is a guideline, not a strict list.  Whole
grains appear around 6-8 weeks into OWL.

> I did the induction back in Sept.

Then timewise you are plenty ready for the experiment.

> and been having an awful craving for a grilled cheese sandwich.

The more driven you feel the more likely it will be a problem.
Don't be surprised if it triggers a binge.  But also don't be afraid
of it triggering a binge.  As long as you use a few days of Induction
to turn the binge off and learn to never eat the trigger food again,
discovering a trigger food is an Atkins victory not an Atkins defeat.

> Two slices of bread 70 cals, one tbsp butter
> 102 cals, one oz. of cheese 100 cals.

What's this calorie stuff?  Has someone told you you have been chronically
over eating?  Atkins isn't about counting calories unless you have some
reason to think you're outside a reasonable range.
 
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