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Weight Loss Forum / Low Carb / January 2004Thank you Burger King and McDonalds!
After being iced in at home near Charlotte since the weekend, today I finally was able to drive the 300 miles back to work in Emporia, VA. By noon I was on I-85 about 1/2 way to my destination; I hadn't eaten anything yet today. So I decided to give Burger King's low-carb menu a shot. I pulled off at an exit that had a BK, went in and ordered a Chicken Whopper with cheese, low-carb style. It came in a plastic bowl with fork and knife - a nice-sized grilled chicken breast with melted cheese, lettuce and tomato; I skipped the mayo at lunchime (I'm watching calories for now also). It was absolutely delicious and filling enough for me. I got to work about 2 p.m., and was immediately swamped after having been out of the office for a couple of days. After having driven 5 hours, then working for several hours, I didn't feel like cooking dinner. So I went to McDonalds and got a grilled Chicken Bacon salad with Newman's Ranch dressing. I used 1-1/2 packets of the dressing. I was hungry, and it tasted wondeful to me and was exactly the right amount to satisfy me without pigging out. Both meals were under $5.00 each. Before you "purists" start hollering about "junk food," nothing at all that I ate today from these restarurants was junk food. Grilled chicken breasts and vegetables and cheese. Even the Newman's Ranch Dressing from Mickey D's has natural ingredients. From BK's and McD's websites** I got the nutritional breakdown of the meals I ate and plugged them into Fitday. I was thrilled to find that what I ate fit *exactly* with my current low-carb eating plan. I am paying special attention to keeping the ratios balanced, this seems to keep my weight loss steady -- I keep fats as 70 - 75% of total calories, and protein as 20 - 25%. The carbs take care of themselves with these ratios. ** (I do want to mention that BK had the calorie count wrong for the lc-style Chicken Whopper. They listed it as 155 calories, but when I entered the ingredients in Fitday it came to 396 calories which seems more reasonable. I went with Fitday's calculations). This is the total breakdown according to Fitday of these two "fast food" meals Calories: 1195 Fat: 94g (72% of calories) Protein 69g (23% of total calories) Carbohydrates: 18 (5% of total calories) This is absolutely perfect for my weight loss plan, and leaves me room for a nice snack this evening. I'm so happy that the low-carb way of eating has finally made an impact on the fast food industry. A few months ago I would have had to stop on the highway, order a burger and been frustrated as heck trying to separate the cheese off of the bun so I could throw away the bread. Now there are many choices (including Subway's wraps which happen to fit perfectly into my plan also). Let the cynics say what they want about the low-carb foods now being offered by the restaurants; they are free to drive right by if that's what they want to do. But it's a lifesaver to someone who travels or works long hours, and there is absolutely nothing unwholesome about the food that I was able to order and eat.  SignaturePeter website: http://users.thelink.net/marengo I agree. Also, I heard someone talking on the stock market report, saying that all this Atkins stuff was the reason that Kraft is having to lay off people, saying that Kraft is into biscuits and things big time. He then went on to say that "this will pass" as all fads do, since people have to have their cookies. LOL Anyway, the lady that was co-hosting said when you see all these Atkins friendly things going on in commercials and things, she doesn't think it's going to pass any time soon. I'm really glad that the foodmakers are responding. It's making life a lot easier for a lot of diabetics too. :-) -- Cheri Type 2, no meds for now. marengo wrote in message ... > After being iced in at home near Charlotte since the weekend, today I >finally was able to drive the 300 miles back to work in Emporia, VA. [quoted text clipped - 59 lines] >Peter >website: http://users.thelink.net/marengo > I agree. Also, I heard someone talking on the stock market report, > saying that all this Atkins stuff was the reason that Kraft is having to [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > soon. I'm really glad that the foodmakers are responding. It's making > life a lot easier for a lot of diabetics too. :-) It seems like I am see more evidence of this every time I am in the stores. Yesterday, at Barnes & Noble, I saw half of the table that usually holds new cookbooks is now devoted to LC cookbooks, as is an endcap on a cooking aisle. My browsing was cut short by snow yesterday, so I am aiming at looking around some more today. SignatureJean B. > After being iced in at home near Charlotte since the weekend, today I > finally was able to drive the 300 miles back to work in Emporia, VA. [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > and vegetables and cheese. Even the Newman's Ranch Dressing from Mickey D's > has natural ingredients. I do not consider macdonalds hamburgers or chicken breasts to be junk food. Which other purists did you have in mind? i > I do not consider macdonalds hamburgers or chicken breasts to be junk > food. > > Which other purists did you have in mind? To me, that is one of the problems with scorning junk food. People's definitions seem to vary, although they would probably overlap at some point. SignatureJean B. >> I do not consider macdonalds hamburgers or chicken breasts to be junk >> food. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > People's definitions seem to vary, although they would probably > overlap at some point. To me, junk food is snack stuff in boxes and packages, as well as sweets. If I thought long and hard, I could produce a better definition, but I think that what I just wrote is fairly clear. As far as McDonalds goes, it sells okay food, bad food, and very little what I call junk food. I ate at McDonalds recently (chicken nuggets) and did not like them. Which does not mean that I consider them junk food. McDonalds food is actually relatively wholesome, sans for deep fried stuff. You could do well by drinking milk sold at MCD, eating their salads and hamburgers, keeping an eye on quantity. i > >> I do not consider macdonalds hamburgers or chicken breasts to be junk > >> food. [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > i Chicken nuggets are pretty high-carb. You can make low-carb ones at home using crushed pork rinds as the crust. I use the spicy ones, some people add more seasonings. It uses quite a bit of pork rinds, a lot of oil, makes a mess, takes some time, but it's worth it! The nuggets are VERY filling, imo, and the tastiest, crunchiest nuggets I've ever had. I like 'em dipped in ranch dressing. SignatureMichelle Levin http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws. > To me, junk food is snack stuff in boxes and packages, as well as > sweets. If I thought long and hard, I could produce a better [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > i Thanks for the clarification, i. SignatureJean B. > To me, junk food is snack stuff in boxes and packages, as well as > sweets. If I thought long and hard, I could produce a better > definition, but I think that what I just wrote is fairly clear. So then, by your definition, Wasa Fiber Rye is a junk food? >>To me, junk food is snack stuff in boxes and packages, as well as >>sweets. If I thought long and hard, I could produce a better >>definition, but I think that what I just wrote is fairly clear. > > So then, by your definition, Wasa Fiber Rye is a junk food? Oh well, even if he does, he wouldn't be the only one. Me? I find them to be excellent peanut butter holders ;-) Signaturejmk in NC > >>To me, junk food is snack stuff in boxes and packages, as well as > >>sweets. If I thought long and hard, I could produce a better [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Oh well, even if he does, he wouldn't be the only one. Me? I find them > to be excellent peanut butter holders ;-) amen to that. wasa rocks. >> >>To me, junk food is snack stuff in boxes and packages, as well as >> >>sweets. If I thought long and hard, I could produce a better [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >amen to that. wasa rocks. hear ya on that Queenie. Obsidian >> To me, junk food is snack stuff in boxes and packages, as well as >> sweets. If I thought long and hard, I could produce a better >> definition, but I think that what I just wrote is fairly clear. > > So then, by your definition, Wasa Fiber Rye is a junk food? Are you going to engage in hair splitting here? i > > So then, by your definition, Wasa Fiber Rye is a junk food? > > Are you going to engage in hair splitting here? LOL. I actually agree with your definition. But you had to know that someone would come up with an answer to contradict you! >> > So then, by your definition, Wasa Fiber Rye is a junk food? >> >> Are you going to engage in hair splitting here? > > LOL. I actually agree with your definition. But you had to know that > someone would come up with an answer to contradict you! No doubt... For example, nuts in packages are not junk food either. i > No doubt... For example, nuts in packages are not junk food > either. /chuckle /snort I'm glad "I'm" not junk food. ;) > No doubt... For example, nuts in packages are not junk food > either. Tsk Tsk, gotta be more specific <wink>. I've had some yummy sugar coated nuts in packages in my time ;-) CM > > No doubt... For example, nuts in packages are not junk food > > either. > > Tsk Tsk, gotta be more specific <wink>. > I've had some yummy sugar coated nuts in packages in my time ;-) I guess I'll have to take notes for my non-LC girlfriend to try out. ;) > So then, by your definition, Wasa Fiber Rye is a junk food? They do bear more than a passing resemblance to acoustical ceiling tile, but they grow on you. My favorite use for Wasa Fiber Rye is to crumble a couple up with some crushed nuts, cinnamon, Splenda, butter and boiling water to make hot cereal. Signaturejamie (jamiemck@newsguy.com) "There's a seeker born every minute." >>> I do not consider macdonalds hamburgers or chicken breasts to be junk >>> food. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >sweets. If I thought long and hard, I could produce a better >definition, but I think that what I just wrote is fairly clear. What about pre-washed and chopped packages of lettuce? --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sooner or later, all of our names wind up on a Post-It. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- :: In article <40190C09.116B10F5@rcn.com>, Jean B. wrote: :::: [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] :: for deep fried stuff. You could do well by drinking milk sold at MCD, :: eating their salads and hamburgers, keeping an eye on quantity. MCD chicken nuggets are definitely junk food in my book. That stuff is processed up the wazoo. Shame on you Ig, you ought to know better. >:: In article <40190C09.116B10F5@rcn.com>, Jean B. wrote: >:::: [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > MCD chicken nuggets are definitely junk food in my book. That stuff is > processed up the wazoo. Shame on you Ig, you ought to know better. I tend to agree with you. They don't fall into my definition of junk food, as such, but I will not eat them again. i >> I do not consider macdonalds hamburgers or chicken breasts to be junk >> food. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > People's definitions seem to vary, although they would probably > overlap at some point. I'm of the opinion that McDonalds "in general" is junk. However, one can always order the few items on there that have nutritional merit. I'm one of those who people might dub a "food purist", but if you can find good food at a junk restaurant then that's a redeeming quality. > I do not consider macdonalds hamburgers or chicken breasts to be junk > food. > > Which other purists did you have in mind? You forgot the (Cue Doughboy) at the end of that question. :) I also don't consider it junk food. As long as it is a 'normal' beef patty or chicken breast like you could make yourself at home, I don't consider it junk food. Take that 'low carb style' meal that the OP poster and put it on a 'low carb' bun (that I'm sure these places are trying to develop) and I consider it junk food. I consider "Atkins" Wraps at subway junkfood because someone went out of their way to create a product that is fooling the consumer into thinking he's eating something that he's not allowed to. Take all of the fillings out of the 'low carb' wrap and I don't consider it junk food. -Dough . | I do not consider macdonalds hamburgers or chicken breasts to be junk | food. | | Which other purists did you have in mind? Actually, there are several "purists" here in the ASDLC newsgroup; I used to be one of the militant ones myself! (just the basics, meat and veggies). ;-) I still think that the Atkins bars et. al. have the texture, taste and nutritional value of horse boogers (not that I've ever tasted horse boogers). But I try to keep an open mind, and I don't automatically rule out the newer low-carb foods that are coming out as junk food without giving them a chance, or at least checking out the nutritional value and/or ongredients. As long as I can eat something and stay within (a) my daily carb limit, (b) my dail calorie goals, and (c) my fat to protein ratio, then I consider it to be edible food. I've found several great items from the fast-food chains that meet my criteria, and am very happy about that :) SignaturePeter website: http://users.thelink.net/marengo > Actually, there are several "purists" here in the ASDLC newsgroup; I used to > be one of the militant ones myself! (just the basics, meat and veggies). But, err... what you ate at BK and McD's *was* pretty much just meat and veggies. > ;-) I still think that the Atkins bars et. al. have the texture, taste > and nutritional value of horse boogers (not that I've ever tasted horse > boogers). I think that these, and other similar products, are *not* junk food. Because I do not think they are *food* at all. Food comes from farms. That's my definition of food. Too many of these products contain stuff that comes from laboratories. I do not consider *any* of those things to be food. Not that I don't eat some of them myself, as far as I know no one is farming aspartame yet. ;) > But I try to keep an open mind, and I don't automatically rule out the newer > low-carb foods that are coming out as junk food without giving them a [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > to be edible food. I've found several great items from the fast-food chains > that meet my criteria, and am very happy about that :) To me, junk food is food that contains significant calories and insiginificant micronutrients; i.e., foods that fill you up without providing much in the way of vitamins and minerals. I think junk food is better than lab-produced non-food. And I think meat and veggies are better than either. And I think a diet root beer with a TB of heavy cream is a nice decadent indulgence now and then. |
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