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Cate - 28 Feb 2004 15:21 GMT
Last Monday, still on induction, I skipped lunch, and by dinnertime I had
what I thought were severe hunger pains. After eating a bit of dinner and
feeling worse, I thought it was gas. By the next morning I suspected
appendicitis.

In the ER I was given dye to drink for a CT scan--and can you believe I
checked the lable for carbs? (Saccharin only.) I'd lost 10 pounds before
going to the ER on my 15th day of induction, and I was only slightly
concerned about stalling. Of course I was more concerned about my health,
but it was in the back of my mind.

The surgeon was funny--after learning I'd been doing Atkins, he checked my
urinalysis and congratulated me on being in moderate ketosis. I don't
measure ketones and hadn't much cared, but I thought it was funny that he
checked. He warned me that my IVs would be full of glucose and that my
post-surgery diet would be sugary liquids, but I didn't care. I just wanted
to do what I needed to get well.

For one day I consumed ginger ale, sugared jello, apple juice, and a
popsicle. The next day, at home and nauseous from medication, I drank a
coke but otherwise switched to sugar-free jello and chicken broth.

It's now 4 days after surgery, and my weight loss is at 16 pounds. I lost 6
pounds between surgery and today--although most of that is probably from
the very few calories I've consumed the past few days (no solid food until
last night).

I feel good, and I'm happy to report that one day of consuming almost
nothing but sugar didn't bring on cravings for more.

Cate
PlacidBull - 28 Feb 2004 15:47 GMT
That's hilarious ... checking the carbs on CT dye! ... I did the same thing
on a barium sulfate suspension I need to take ... they don't list it!

Along those same lines ... I have gone 8 months on very low carb intake ...
have any of you experienced dizziness while eating out at a restaurant and
eating whipped cream, strawberries, etc that were accidentally prepared with
sugar.

I am surprised that my body has become so sensitive to carbs that my heart
races and I get dizzy for about 30 minutes.

Just curious.

Placid
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> Last Monday, still on induction, I skipped lunch, and by dinnertime I had
> what I thought were severe hunger pains. After eating a bit of dinner and
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>
> Cate
Cate - 02 Mar 2004 14:49 GMT
> That's hilarious ... checking the carbs on CT dye! ... I did the same
> thing on a barium sulfate suspension I need to take ... they don't
> list it!

They didn't list it on the dye either, but they did at least list the
ingredients. Which I would've looked at even had I not been doing LC. I'm
not gonna drink just any old thing.

Cate
Jean M. - 28 Feb 2004 16:54 GMT
>Last Monday, still on induction, I skipped lunch, and by dinnertime I had
>what I thought were severe hunger pains. After eating a bit of dinner and
>feeling worse, I thought it was gas. By the next morning I suspected
>appendicitis.
...
>I feel good, and I'm happy to report that one day of consuming almost
>nothing but sugar didn't bring on cravings for more.
>
>Cate

I'm glad to hear that you are ok. That's not the best way to lose
weight, ya know! Take it easy.
Cate - 02 Mar 2004 14:51 GMT
Jean M. <ajeanam@yahoo.com> wrote in news:4042c787.780611578
@news20.forteinc.com:

> I'm glad to hear that you are ok. That's not the best way to lose
> weight, ya know! Take it easy.

Thanks. I'm getting better every day, and have continued to lose since the
surgery. Except--this weekend friends came to visit, and last night I
partook of a few pieces of a Hershey's Special Dark bar (she's on South
Beach and allows herself this treat). I don't feel guilty or like I need
punishment. I'm just acknowledging and moving on.

Cate
marengo - 28 Feb 2004 17:15 GMT
<snip>

He warned me that my IVs would be full of glucose and that my
| post-surgery diet would be sugary liquids, but I didn't care. I just
| wanted to do what I needed to get well.
|
| For one day I consumed ginger ale, sugared jello, apple juice, and a
| popsicle. The next day, at home and nauseous from medication, I drank a
| coke but otherwise switched to sugar-free jello and chicken broth.

| I feel good, and I'm happy to report that one day of consuming almost
| nothing but sugar didn't bring on cravings for more.
|
| Cate

I'm glad that you made a great recovery and came through the hospital food
relatively unscathed.  But yoru story makes me angry all over again at my
own experience:

In 1998 I had freak brain stem stroke -- and was hospitalized for two full
months.  (I don't want to discuss the stroke here; but suffice it to say it
was not related to diet and I had no artheriosclerosis at the time; it was
caused by a blood clot that possible formed because of a childhood heart
murmer.  I've made an amazing recovery).

Prior to the stroke I was slim, healthy and active.  While in the hospital I
gained dozens of pounds on the high-sugar, high-starch, low-fat diet that
they fed me.  I never ate so much sugar in my life!  It started with cereal
with skim milk and sugar for breakfast, coffee with sugar.  Lunch was all
starches, and there was always a dessert with sugar.  Dinner in the hospital
was some type of low-fat meat served with bread, peas, potatoes, corn,
carrots, etc.  Frequently I'd get mashed potatoes with gravy.  There was
always a sugary dessert.  In the evening they'd ask if I wanted a snack and
would bring a soda (sugary) or cookies, etc.

Although Ive made a 95% recovery from the life-threatening stroke; this
high-sugar/starch diet that I was on in the hospital put my general health
in a downward spiral.  After  was released I continued to crave the sugars
and starches, and continued to gain weight.  I went from around 180 pounds
to 270 pounds in less than a year.  Now, three months ago, I was diagnosed
as a T2 diabetic.

Now, of course, I'm losing the weight and controlling the diabetes with my
low-carb way of eating.  I WILL get back to the relative health that I had
before I was force-fed all that lethal sugary crap by the well-meaning but
ill-informed hospital nutrionists.  But I still get angry when I think about
what was done to me -- and is done every day to thousands of others like
me -- by the screwed up low-fat/high carbohydrate mentality of the medical
establishment.
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martymkm@webtv.net - 28 Feb 2004 21:43 GMT
Peter wrote:
But I still get angry when I think about what was done to me

------------------------------------------------

Yeah, and what irks me they will get right up in your face and boldly
say "It's vital for a speedy recovery" or some such. What is their
reasoning that if you eat lots and lots of sugar and carbs it will help
you heal?
Good Wishes; Marty

BTW best of health to you, Peter and Cate I'm glad you surgery went so
well.
Supergoof - 29 Feb 2004 05:27 GMT
> what was done to me -- and is done every day to thousands of others like
> me -- by the screwed up low-fat/high carbohydrate mentality of the medical
> establishment.

I was thinking about that today. I am insulin resistant and though he was
never tested, my partner probably thinks he is - or was pre LC as well.

They say there's this diabetes epidemic.  When they diagnosed me as insulin
resistant they naturally recommended the standard low fat, high carb
diabetes diet (which I naturally ignored). If most people who are considered
pre-diabetic are put on that dreadful carb diet, no wonder diabetes rates
are skyrocketing!

I wonder what would happen if all those pre-diabetic people were put on a
reduced carbohydrate eating plan instead.

I reckon that diabetes dietiticians are sadists. They say "lose weight or
die" and then give you a diet to follow that ensures you maintain or even
gain weight!

Rachel
(New Zealand)
Kalish - 29 Feb 2004 07:18 GMT
>They say there's this diabetes epidemic.  When they diagnosed me as insulin
>resistant they naturally recommended the standard low fat, high carb
>diabetes diet (which I naturally ignored). If most people who are considered
>pre-diabetic are put on that dreadful carb diet, no wonder diabetes rates
>are skyrocketing!

Has this worked for you, Rachel?  I'm not pre-diabetic, but I have a
friend who was diagnosed "insulin resistant" and the Quacks prescribed
exactly what you describe above - and my friend cannot manage her BG
even with the pills (and the standard diabetic regimen).  What I find
most disturbing is that my friend was only 20 pounds overweight and
had actually been doing low-carbing for a year before the diagnosis,
which just came out of the blue.
Supergoof - 01 Mar 2004 03:07 GMT
> >They say there's this diabetes epidemic.  When they diagnosed me as insulin
> >resistant they naturally recommended the standard low fat, high carb
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> had actually been doing low-carbing for a year before the diagnosis,
> which just came out of the blue.

If she had a GTT while she was low-carbing I'm not surprised she showed up
insulin resistant - standard advice from the good folks here is to carb up
for about 3 days before a GTT or you get a falsely-high test result. Many
folks here are diabetic and most have reduced or cut out their meds
altogether by following low carb.

I get tested from time to time and am always in the normal range, GTTs vary
between normal and mildly IR.

I'm on metformin at the moment, prescribed by an endocrinologist, to help
with weight loss (LC alone hasn't been enough). I had a panel of tests done
last week including random glucose and Hb1A-whatever, which I'll get the
results of when I see her on the 10th. It will be interesting to see the
Hb-thing results, especially to see how my Christmas blow-out affected
things!

cheers
Rachel
(New Zealand)
Aramanth Dawe - 29 Feb 2004 12:35 GMT
>They say there's this diabetes epidemic.  When they diagnosed me as insulin
>resistant they naturally recommended the standard low fat, high carb
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>I wonder what would happen if all those pre-diabetic people were put on a
>reduced carbohydrate eating plan instead.

For one thing, those Diabetes Educators would have to learn something
new - they wouldn't need all of them!

>I reckon that diabetes dietiticians are sadists. They say "lose weight or
>die" and then give you a diet to follow that ensures you maintain or even
>gain weight!
>
>Rachel
>(New Zealand)

My mother was diagnosed T2 diabetic at 56.  She followed a high-carb,
low fat diabetic diet as pushed by her 'diabetes educator' and doctor.
At 58 she had massively high cholesterol as well and her HBA1C was
always over 10 even though she followed the diet religiously, weighing
and measuring obsessively to make sure she didn't eat a spoonful more
than she was supposed to.  At 59 she died of a heart attack in her
sleep, a 'complication' of the diabetes.

And my doctors wonder why I refuse to go to 'diabetes education',
refuse to follow a mandated high-crap (sorry, that should be 'carb')
diet and while I am not LOSING weight I'm at least remaining stable in
weight and my HBA1C is always in OK ranges.  Being a diabetic sucks,
but at least I'm doing something to help myself.

Aramanth
marengo - 29 Feb 2004 15:42 GMT
| My mother was diagnosed T2 diabetic at 56.  She followed a high-carb,
| low fat diabetic diet as pushed by her 'diabetes educator' and doctor.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
| sleep, a 'complication' of the diabetes.
| Aramanth

Yeh, my sister is diabetic also and follows the traditional
low-fat/high/carb diabetic "diet."  Her weight continues to inrease and her
symptoms worsen.  She now has neuropathy in her feet and some heart
problems.  I don't understand the thinking! She continues to follow that
killer diet.  Even though she sees me losing weight and controlling my own
diabetes with no meds with my controlled-carb eating.  I guess the medical
community has many people brainwashed into believing that they are gods.
People need to think for themselves and have some say in their own
treatment, IMO.
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JC Der Koenig - 29 Feb 2004 16:52 GMT
That's too bad about your sister.

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Someone on my forum claimed to have gained 30 lbs in 3 months eating
800-1000 calories/day.

In the FFID universe, 800 cal can magically cause weight gain.

Lyle

> | My mother was diagnosed T2 diabetic at 56.  She followed a high-carb,
> | low fat diabetic diet as pushed by her 'diabetes educator' and doctor.
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> People need to think for themselves and have some say in their own
> treatment, IMO.
Walter Bushell - 04 Mar 2004 17:33 GMT
> | My mother was diagnosed T2 diabetic at 56.  She followed a high-carb,
> | low fat diabetic diet as pushed by her 'diabetes educator' and doctor.
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> People need to think for themselves and have some say in their own
> treatment, IMO.

Mind controlled is what I prefer to call it. Mind wash is removing old
information and can be useful and is what your sister needs to get rid
of the fear of standing own her own feet in regards to her health. It
has to be mind control, otherwise the simple common sense of reducing
carb to someone who cannot handle them would be obvious.
Cate - 02 Mar 2004 14:53 GMT
>  Dinner in the hospital
> was some type of low-fat meat served with bread, peas, potatoes, corn,
> carrots, etc.  Frequently I'd get mashed potatoes with gravy.  There
> was always a sugary dessert.  In the evening they'd ask if I wanted a
> snack and would bring a soda (sugary) or cookies, etc.

They probably serve all these sugar- and starch-laden foods because they're
much cheaper than fresh, unprocessed foods.

Although it wouldn't have cost them more to have offered me sugar-free
jello or diet soda. But to tell the truth, I felt like I somehow *needed*
the energy from the sugar--rather than artificial sweeteners, which have no
nutrional value--to get back on my feet. But it's easy for me to say that
because I only consumed that stuff for one day.

> Although Ive made a 95% recovery from the life-threatening stroke

I'm glad to hear you're doing so well.

Cate
Cubit - 28 Feb 2004 18:07 GMT
Congratulations on surviving surgery.

I'm wondering how much the appendix weighed.  I'm imagining a diseased
bloated appendix at about 5 pounds.  Maybe?

That must be a hell of a way to lose weight.

Cubit
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> Last Monday, still on induction, I skipped lunch, and by dinnertime I had
> what I thought were severe hunger pains. After eating a bit of dinner and
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
>
> Cate
Cate - 02 Mar 2004 14:48 GMT
"Cubit" <no@no.not> wrote in news:2O40c.4037$mc6.63
@newssvr27.news.prodigy.com:

> Congratulations on surviving surgery.

Thanks.

> I'm wondering how much the appendix weighed.  I'm imagining a diseased
> bloated appendix at about 5 pounds.  Maybe?

I too imagined an appendix to be a largish organ, but I'm told a healthy
one is the size of a small woman's pinky finger. Even an inflamed, infected
one would, I think, never weigh 5 pounds. One pound, tops, I'd think.

Cate
Aramanth Dawe - 03 Mar 2004 03:25 GMT
>"Cubit" <no@no.not> wrote in news:2O40c.4037$mc6.63
>@newssvr27.news.prodigy.com:
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
>Cate

The surgeon who removed mine was a little stunned.  It was over 7
inches long and twisted around my intestines which caused all manner
of problems.  It was actually not very inflamed, but when it is that
twisted it causes problems with only a little swelling.

My GP was annoyed.  He'd been invited to scrub in on the surgery but
decided not to.  It was the biggest one any of his patients had ever
had.

I guess it goes along with the 1 1/2 times normal skull thickness and
the 1 1/3 times normal pituitary gland.

Aramanth
revek - 03 Mar 2004 03:41 GMT
Aramanth Dawe  burbled across the ether:
> The surgeon who removed mine was a little stunned.  It was over 7
> inches long and twisted around my intestines which caused all manner
> of problems.  It was actually not very inflamed, but when it is that
> twisted it causes problems with only a little swelling.

Wow.

> My GP was annoyed.  He'd been invited to scrub in on the surgery but
> decided not to.  It was the biggest one any of his patients had ever
> had.

LOL.

> I guess it goes along with the 1 1/2 times normal skull thickness and
> the 1 1/3 times normal pituitary gland.

Isn't it fun to be special? ;)

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Cate - 03 Mar 2004 13:39 GMT
> It was over 7
> inches long and twisted around my intestines which caused all manner
> of problems.

Holy crap! With each one of these posts I feel even luckier that mine was
so mild.

Cate
Saffire - 28 Feb 2004 20:40 GMT
> It's now 4 days after surgery, and my weight loss is at 16 pounds. I lost 6
> pounds between surgery and today--although most of that is probably from
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> I feel good, and I'm happy to report that one day of consuming almost
> nothing but sugar didn't bring on cravings for more.

I'm sorry to hear about your appendix, but glad it went well with no
complications and that you are doing so well with it AND your weight loss --
quite an accomplishment!

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Witchy Way - 29 Feb 2004 06:19 GMT
glad to hear you came through ok & caught it in time!

**When I was young we used to go 'skinny dipping'. Now I just 'chunky
dunk'.

witchy
Cate - 02 Mar 2004 14:55 GMT
witchyway@webtv.net (Witchy Way) wrote in news:18336-40418487-179
@storefull-3133.bay.webtv.net:

> glad to hear you came through ok & caught it in time!

Thanks! Me too.

Cate
Cate - 02 Mar 2004 14:54 GMT
> I'm sorry to hear about your appendix, but glad it went well with no
> complications and that you are doing so well with it AND your weight
> loss -- quite an accomplishment!

Thanks! Recovering is more important to me right now than continuing to
lose, but that's nice too!

Cate
Marsha - 28 Feb 2004 21:59 GMT
> In the ER I was given dye to drink for a CT scan--and can you believe I
> checked the lable for carbs? (Saccharin only.) I'd lost 10 pounds before
> going to the ER on my 15th day of induction, and I was only slightly
> concerned about stalling. Of course I was more concerned about my health,
> but it was in the back of my mind.

Now there's a true low-carber.  Glad to hear you're doing well.

Marsha/Ohio
Cate - 02 Mar 2004 14:56 GMT
Marsha <mas@sev.org> wrote in news:sr6dnQ-4ScDnktzdRVn-tw@buckeye-
express.com:

> Now there's a true low-carber.  Glad to hear you're doing well.

Thanks.

Cate
revek - 29 Feb 2004 07:45 GMT
Cate  burbled across the ether:
> Last Monday, still on induction, I skipped lunch, and by dinnertime I
> had what I thought were severe hunger pains. After eating a bit of
> dinner and feeling worse, I thought it was gas. By the next morning I
> suspected appendicitis.

You're quicker on the uptake than I was.  Should we form a club?

> In the ER I was given dye to drink for a CT scan--and can you believe
> I checked the lable for carbs? (Saccharin only.) I'd lost 10 pounds
> before going to the ER on my 15th day of induction, and I was only
> slightly concerned about stalling. Of course I was more concerned
> about my health, but it was in the back of my mind.

LOL me too.  I had to have both the clear dishwater tasting solution and
then the thick orange flavored barium stuff (two separate scans).

> The surgeon was funny--after learning I'd been doing Atkins, he
> checked my urinalysis and congratulated me on being in moderate
> ketosis. I don't measure ketones and hadn't much cared, but I thought
> it was funny that he checked. He warned me that my IVs would be full
> of glucose and that my post-surgery diet would be sugary liquids, but
> I didn't care. I just wanted to do what I needed to get well.

How nice.  My health team couldn't wrap their minds around the idea,
even when I graduated to solids.  The anetheseolgist tried explaining
(the one lowcarb savvy person on staff) but I still ended up with the
same diet Peter had.

> For one day I consumed ginger ale, sugared jello, apple juice, and a
> popsicle. The next day, at home and nauseous from medication, I drank
> a coke but otherwise switched to sugar-free jello and chicken broth.

Congratulations on your swift recovery.

> It's now 4 days after surgery, and my weight loss is at 16 pounds. I
> lost 6 pounds between surgery and today--although most of that is
> probably from the very few calories I've consumed the past few days
> (no solid food until last night).

I have decided that even excercise is preferable to losing weight this
way.

> I feel good, and I'm happy to report that one day of consuming almost
> nothing but sugar didn't bring on cravings for more.

Me neither.  The first time anyway.  When I went back though, I started
having trouble with hunger and cravings around about the fourth day.  I
think it was the raisin bran that was the trigger for me.

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Saffire - 29 Feb 2004 08:42 GMT
> > For one day I consumed ginger ale, sugared jello, apple juice, and a
> > popsicle. The next day, at home and nauseous from medication, I drank
> > a coke but otherwise switched to sugar-free jello and chicken broth.

My mother is a type 2 diabetic, and when she was in the hospital, they would
always tsk, tsk that her blood sugar was up, but it was only up WHEN SHE WAS IN
THE HOSPITAL.  She manages fine with medication, but in the hospital they always
have to give her insulin.  Gee, I can't imagine why :-[

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Nancy Howells - 29 Feb 2004 12:46 GMT
Stuff snipped...

REVEK!  You're back!!!!  I'm so glad - I hadn't noticed your return
since the last hospitalization!  WELCOME BACK!

and to all who've had appendectomies - it's very good that they went
well, and that you're well...

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revek - 29 Feb 2004 13:14 GMT
Nancy Howells  burbled across the ether:
> Stuff snipped...
>
> REVEK!  You're back!!!!  I'm so glad - I hadn't noticed your return
> since the last hospitalization!  WELCOME BACK!

Thank you!  I was released very late (near midnight) Friday.  I am very
glad to finally be home (to stay this time I hope).

> and to all who've had appendectomies - it's very good that they went
> well, and that you're well...

Nasty things, appendectomies.  I don't wish them on anybody.

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mcp6453 - 29 Feb 2004 13:21 GMT
> Nancy Howells  burbled across the ether:
> > Stuff snipped...
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>
> Nasty things, appendectomies.  I don't wish them on anybody.

Did your appendix rupture before you had it removed? How quickly was
your appendicitis diagnose? Mine was not diagnosed for four days, during
which time it turned into peritonitis. They kept me in the hosptial on
antibiotics for TEN DAYS. (At least I lost 12 pounds while in the
hospital.) The doctor admitted that if they had waited another day to do
the exploratory surgery, I probably would have gone into multiple organ
shutdown. Makes you think.
revek - 29 Feb 2004 13:44 GMT
mcp6453  burbled across the ether:

>> Nancy Howells  burbled across the ether:
>>> Stuff snipped...
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> Did your appendix rupture before you had it removed?

No but it was close.  It was gangrenous.

How quickly was
> your appendicitis diagnose?

About 6 hours after I went to the ER.

Mine was not diagnosed for four days,
> during which time it turned into peritonitis.

Geh.  I wasn't able to get to the ER for two days because of an ice
storm.  I think I would have tried to cut it out with a kitchen knife if
I'd had to wait four days.

They kept me in the
> hosptial on antibiotics for TEN DAYS.

Eight days for me, then home on oral antibiotics for a week, then back
in the hospital for a week on IV again.

(At least I lost 12 pounds
> while in the hospital.) The doctor admitted that if they had waited
> another day to do the exploratory surgery, I probably would have gone
> into multiple organ shutdown. Makes you think.

I'm just glad that they figured it out in time.  I was none too
confident of the abilities of any doctor in this part of the country.

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Cate - 02 Mar 2004 15:05 GMT
"revek" <pphillps1962@hotmail.com> wrote in news:c1sqb8$1lkjme$1@ID-
190183.news.uni-berlin.de:

> No but it was close.  It was gangrenous.

Oh my god. That's terrible.

> About 6 hours after I went to the ER.

I'll chime in even though I'm not revek: After 10 hours of being in the ER,
although all the nurses and my two doctors (there so long the shifts
changed), and the surgeon all informally diagnosed it as appendicitis
before it was confirmed with CT. CT confirmed it was still early on in the
process.

> Eight days for me, then home on oral antibiotics for a week, then back
> in the hospital for a week on IV again.

Good god. I had it really good: I went in to the ER at 10:30am Tuesday, and
I was discharged by 1pm on Wednesday. Only 5 days of antibiotics, but many
more days of pain killers. <g>

Cate
revek - 03 Mar 2004 03:37 GMT
Cate  burbled across the ether:
> Good god. I had it really good: I went in to the ER at 10:30am
> Tuesday, and I was discharged by 1pm on Wednesday. Only 5 days of
> antibiotics, but many more days of pain killers. <g>

Did they tell you how long to expect discomfort?  Because it's been
almost a month for me and I'm still feeling what I call surgical pain--
I can't really stand up straight for any length of time because gravity
pulls hard enough to cause a fairly strong dull ache.

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Cate - 03 Mar 2004 13:45 GMT
"revek" <pphillps1962@hotmail.com> wrote in news:c23ju8$1p4hnr$1@ID-
190183.news.uni-berlin.de:

> Did they tell you how long to expect discomfort?  

Only vaguely, and I'm finding it annoying that I still have it. I had the
laproscopy, which everyone said would be 'better' but not exactly how. The
surgeon told me I'd be 'back to normal' by this past Monday. (The nurses
all disagreed and said it would be longer.) Well, ok, yes, I'm walking, and
I can finally walk the dog, sort of, and I'm no longer waking up at 2am
from pain, but I have pain while sitting in a chair. And last night I got
curious and ripped the bandage off my biggest incision (there are 3) and
it's not closed yet. That surprised me. I see the surgeon tomorrow and will
have more questions than I did when I was doped up on morphine.

Because it's been
> almost a month for me and I'm still feeling what I call surgical pain--
> I can't really stand up straight for any length of time because gravity
> pulls hard enough to cause a fairly strong dull ache.

Ugh. Yuck. I have that too. I say I walk around, but it's with some
difficulty. I have cramps in my left foot and my right hip joint is out of
whack--I presume because I walk in a funny way to accommodate the pain and
to guard my abdomen. I'm not much on chiropractors, but when all this is
done I may have to schedule an appointment.

Hope you'll be seeing someone soon about your pain.

Cate
marengo - 29 Feb 2004 15:43 GMT
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revek - 03 Mar 2004 03:38 GMT
marengo  burbled across the ether:
> Welcome back revek!

<smootch!>

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revek  www.geocities.com/tanirevek/LowCarb.html  lowcarbing since June
2002 5'2" 41 F  165+/too much/size seven petite please
"... the garment is named after (Bikini Atoll) on the basis that a
woman wearing a bikini would have the same effect on a man as an
H-bomb: He would fall to the ground screaming and clutching his melted
eyes before bursting into flames and being smashed by overpressure. Not
entirely clear why this was supposed to be a good thing." - James
Nicoll

Cate - 02 Mar 2004 15:01 GMT
> You're quicker on the uptake than I was.  Should we form a club?

Did you go through this recently as well? If so, I'm sorry I seem to
have missed it. It's not a club I want to start!

> LOL me too.  I had to have both the clear dishwater tasting solution
> and then the thick orange flavored barium stuff (two separate scans).

Huh. Mine was milky white. Tasted like slightly minty bubble gum, had
the consistency of snot.

> How nice.  My health team couldn't wrap their minds around the idea,
> even when I graduated to solids.  The anetheseolgist tried explaining
> (the one lowcarb savvy person on staff) but I still ended up with the
> same diet Peter had.

Ugh. How long were you in? I was lucky enough to be there only for two
meals.

> Congratulations on your swift recovery.

Thanks! I did a little too much this weekend, and that has slowed me
down, but I'm getting back on track today.

> I have decided that even excercise is preferable to losing weight this
> way.

Heh. I'd have to agree with you.

> Me neither.  The first time anyway.  When I went back though, I
> started having trouble with hunger and cravings around about the
> fourth day.  I think it was the raisin bran that was the trigger for
> me.

Aw, man. Four days? No wonder.

Cate
revek - 03 Mar 2004 03:39 GMT
Cate  burbled across the ether:

>> You're quicker on the uptake than I was.  Should we form a club?
>
> Did you go through this recently as well? If so, I'm sorry I seem to
> have missed it. It's not a club I want to start!

LOL, yeppers.

>> LOL me too.  I had to have both the clear dishwater tasting solution
>> and then the thick orange flavored barium stuff (two separate scans).
>
> Huh. Mine was milky white. Tasted like slightly minty bubble gum, had
> the consistency of snot.

Yep that was the orange stuff for me.  The consistancy kept triggering
my gag reflex.

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2002 5'2" 41 F  165+/too much/size seven petite please
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