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AmyB - 29 Feb 2004 15:59 GMT
Because of my &*&#@@! medical insurance, I have had to get a new primary
care physician.  So I have made an appointment to meet him and discuss my
WOE.

I'm a bit nervous as to his opinion on the WOE and hopefully I have enough
knowledge about this to ask intellegent questions and to question his
opinions.  I'm hoping he will not be negative.  I'm concerned that he will
think that I am a lemming and that is not true.  I researched this WOE for
about a year with my husband as my human guinnea pig and great success
story.

I would like to get some blood tests done to see where I am now even though
I don't have any numbers pre-this WOE.  The questions I have for you:  What
blood tests should he order for me?  Lipid panel, cholesterol, iron . . .
I also would like to have my thyroid checked.  Is this reasonable to ask the
doctor?

What negatives should I be prepared for?  Kidney function?  Ok, so test them
for me.  What else???

--
AmyB
LC since 12/01/03
238/212/165
PlacidBull - 29 Feb 2004 18:06 GMT
As a group, I am very disappointed by the health profession. They are very
slow at coming around to this new way of eating. Just last week a nutrition
specialist trying to help diabetic people said that although research
indicates that low carbohydrate eating works in the short term they have
still not determined the long term effects.

Still clinging on to the past she, like ALL the health care professionals I
have mentioned low carbohydrate eating to, chose to emphasis the unknown
long term effects rather then acknowledge that it does work.

I no longer even mention my style of eating to health care professionals
because it automatically biases them to draw really weird conclusions.

Placid

> Because of my &*&#@@! medical insurance, I have had to get a new primary
> care physician.  So I have made an appointment to meet him and discuss my
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> LC since 12/01/03
> 238/212/165
Jean M. - 29 Feb 2004 18:43 GMT
>I no longer even mention my style of eating to health care professionals
>because it automatically biases them to draw really weird conclusions.
>
>Placid

I do. One of them turns his nose up, but he'll get over it. Imagine
their learning curve when diabetics doing lc have better labs. I'd say
there is going to be a major shift called for in diabetic education. I
know I'm not the only loud mouth out there. ;-)
Cubit - 29 Feb 2004 18:10 GMT
Perversely, the more your doctor dislikes the diet, the more tests he might
order.  If he loves Atkins, everything will probably just be routine.

My Kaiser doctor had no objections to my telling him I was doing a low carb
diet.   His only question was who had told me about it, since I had been
through Kaiser's carby food pyramid class.  When he got my blood test
results he mailed me paperwork for a re-test on the bloodwork with a few
more tests added.

If 17% of society is now eating low carb, your doctor has had a bunch of
other patients doing it.

I had worried about Potassium from comments in this newsgroup and my FitDay
percentage of RDA for Potassium, but the bloodwork showed my Potassium was
normal.

Cubit
308/269.5/165

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> Because of my &*&#@@! medical insurance, I have had to get a new primary
> care physician.  So I have made an appointment to meet him and discuss my
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> LC since 12/01/03
> 238/212/165
LCer09 - 29 Feb 2004 20:01 GMT
>What negatives should I be prepared for?  Kidney function?  Ok, so test them
>for me.  What else???

That saturated fats will kill you. (or take you there faster anyway)

LCing since 12/01/03-
Me- 265/226/140
& hubby- 310/248/180
Jenny - 29 Feb 2004 21:13 GMT
> That saturated fats will kill you. (or take you there faster anyway)
>
> LCing since 12/01/03-

I ain't  dead yet, and I'm in year 6 of my low carb regimen. All my numbers
have gone in the right direction, too, and I eat plenty of natural saturated
fat as in cheese and meat.

To support your very powerful and frightening statement, please point me to
studies of people on long term LOW CARB diets who developed serious health
problems due to sat fat intake.

I have seen nothing to convince me that saturated fat is problem when
combined with a low carb diet.  The only reasons that the diet authors have
jumped on this anti-sat fat bandwagon recently is because the public is so
brainwashed by the cholesterol drug manufacturers anti fat propaganda that
they gave up trying to assure them that saturated fat was not a problem so
that they could sell even more diet books. It's about money, not science.

Every study that I have ever seen that shows that saturated fat is
associated with heart disease studied people who were eating a diet with 200
grams of carbohydrate a day.  I eat about 60 gm.

I believe that if you keep your blood sugar within normal ranges and your
carbs under the ketogenic threshold, you can eat all the sat fat you want as
long as you stay away from hydrogenated trans fats which are, indeed.
damaging.

-- Jenny  - Low Carbing for 4 years. At goal for weight. Type 2 diabetes,
hba1c 5.2.
Cut the carbs to respond to my  email address!

Low carb facts and figures, my weight-loss photos, tips, recipes,
strategies for dealing with diabetes and more at
http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/

Looking for help controlling your blood sugar?
Visit  http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/Newly%20Diagnosed.htm
carla - 29 Feb 2004 21:42 GMT
> > That saturated fats will kill you. (or take you there faster anyway)
> >
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> studies of people on long term LOW CARB diets who developed serious health
> problems due to sat fat intake.

err... wasn't the context of LCer's comment a response to a question from
the OP (AmyB, I believe) about the sorts of negative commentary she can
expect from an anti-low-carb doctor?  I read LCer to be saying "this is what
the doctor might tell you" rather making a declarative statement about the
detriments of saturated fats.  I could have misunderstood the context,
though.

carla
LCer09 - 01 Mar 2004 03:59 GMT
>"this is what
>the doctor might tell you" rather making a declarative statement about the
>detriments of saturated fats.  I could have misunderstood the context,
>though.

You didn't misunderstand. LOL!

LCing since 12/01/03-
Me- 265/226/140
& hubby- 310/248/180
LCer09 - 01 Mar 2004 03:59 GMT
>To support your very powerful and frightening statement, please point me to
>studies of people on long term LOW CARB diets who developed serious health
>problems due to sat fat intake.

They wanted to know what their DOCTOR might say. Sheesh. Calm down.

LCing since 12/01/03-
Me- 265/226/140
& hubby- 310/248/180
 
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