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DG511 - 29 Feb 2004 19:15 GMT
Hi, newbie here--
I have spent most of my life thin, but middle age caught up with me so I
finally decided to diet.  (It was either that or shop at the fat lady store.)
I knew I wanted to do low-carb, and while I was reading Atkins and South Beach,
I went off sugar.  It was a hellish week (I am a sweet-tooth with a person
attached), but at the end I felt great, lost 8 pounds in 6 days, and I think my
blood pressure might have dropped.  I went on a mostly SB/slightly Atkins diet
the following week, lost 4 more pounds, lost 2 pounds last week, and now have
only 12 more to go.  So far, so good (better than I imagined, actually).

Here's my dilemma:  My significant other and I like to go for long hikes.
We've taken vacations where every day we hiked at least 7 miles, sometimes as
many as 23 miles.  And I'm completely befuddled about what food to carry along,
because on a hike that long, you have to eat something.  Before, we've always
carried along Clif Bars and other energy bars, which have tons and tons of
sugar in them.  Or raisins and trail mix, which are also very sugary.  I really
don't want to resume feeding my sweet tooth, though.  So I don't know what my
options are beyond pistachios and beef jerky.  My SO is no help.  He lost 65
pounds on WW and has kept it off 3 years, so he's not getting the low-carb
thing.

Does anyone have any ideas or suggestions?

Thanks,
Daria
PlacidBull - 29 Feb 2004 19:42 GMT
Since carbohydrates have a 100% conversion factor, Protein has a 58%
conversion factor and fat has a 0% conversion factor ... I would guess that
if you ate 1.75 times as many grams of protein then you usually eat in grams
of carbohydrate ... you will get sufficient, no spiking ... energy ... just
guessing though ... not an expert by any means .... maybe Carla or some of
the other exercisers will know ...

Placid

> Hi, newbie here--
> I have spent most of my life thin, but middle age caught up with me so I
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> Thanks,
> Daria
Roger Zoul - 29 Feb 2004 20:17 GMT
:: Hi, newbie here--
:: I have spent most of my life thin, but middle age caught up with me
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
:: no help.  He lost 65 pounds on WW and has kept it off 3 years, so
:: he's not getting the low-carb thing.

Take other nuts, take pork rinds (if you like them)...a protein bar...you
could make LC cookies and stuff like that too, made out of almond flour and
other high fiber flours....LC chips, LC cereal might be a good idea
too....atkins morning start is good.  You'll need lots and lots of water, as
you know -- but maybe more so with this fare...

And, if your hiking is very strenuous, you'd better have some fast acting
carbs along just in case you bonk out....you don't want that on a long hike,
so plan accordingly.

:: Does anyone have any ideas or suggestions?
::
:: Thanks,
:: Daria
Saffire - 01 Mar 2004 07:57 GMT
> Take other nuts, take pork rinds (if you like them)...a protein bar...you
> could make LC cookies and stuff like that too, made out of almond flour and
> other high fiber flours....LC chips, LC cereal might be a good idea
> too....atkins morning start is good.  You'll need lots and lots of water, as
> you know -- but maybe more so with this fare...

She'll need lots and LOTS of water if she takes pork rinds.  They're good, but
they suck your mouth dry within seconds!

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DG511 - 02 Mar 2004 00:01 GMT
>"Roger Zoul" rogerzoul2@hotmail.com

writes:

>:: <snippage>
>:: Here's my dilemma:  My significant other and I like to go for long
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>carbs along just in case you bonk out....you don't want that on a long hike,
>so plan accordingly.

Thanks, Roger and the others who replied.  This whole l-c experience has been a
bit perplexing, because I'm viewing it as a permanent change in my eating and
cooking habits, and sometimes I walk into the kitchen and get overwhelmed
thinking "now what?"

I'm starting to think that half of an English muffin with breakfast on the day
of a hike might not be such a bad idea.  And I will probably carry a Clif bar
along in case I bonk.  (I've never truly bonked, but I've gotten unexpectedly
ravenous mid-hike, which isn't fun, either.)  I looked at some of the low-carb
bars at the store today, and I'm a bit skeptical, so I'll scan the newsgroup to
see if they're discussed elsewhere.  I'm thinking that a variety of nuts, some
meat, pork rinds, and some fruit might be the way to go.  And lots of water, of
course.

I want to work this out within the next few months, because we've got
reservations for Phantom Ranch (at the bottom of the Grand Canyon), which is a
big hike both ways, and we're talking about hiking the entire Appalachian Trail
(in segments, not all at once).  I feel so much better without refined sugar in
my diet, and I really don't want to go back to it.

By the way, I keep seeing sugar-free peanut butter being mentioned on this
newsgroup.  Consumed how and with what?  Does natural peanut butter qualify?

Thanks again,
Daria
Saffire - 02 Mar 2004 01:29 GMT
> By the way, I keep seeing sugar-free peanut butter being mentioned on this
> newsgroup.  Consumed how and with what?  Does natural peanut butter qualify?

As long as the ingredients contain only peanuts and maybe some salt then, yes, it
qualifies.  Most commercial peanut butters have hydrogenated oil (trans fat)
added to it to keep it creamy, along with preservatives.  Consequently, the
"natural" peanut butters a) tend to have the natural oils pool at the top,
requiring stirring or skimming, and b) have to be refrigerated after opening.  I
don't have a problem with that, but then, I don't eat a lot of peanut butter,
either.

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BREWERPAUL - 02 Mar 2004 12:31 GMT
> and we're talking about hiking the entire Appalachian Trail
>(in segments, not all at once).

Hey, give a buzz when you get to the upstate NY, western Mass segments. I'm not
far from there. Wanna  side trip to the Adirondacks?

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Tom - 29 Feb 2004 22:46 GMT
> Here's my dilemma:  My significant other and I like to go for long hikes.
> We've taken vacations where every day we hiked at least 7 miles, sometimes as
> many as 23 miles.  And I'm completely befuddled about what food to carry
> along.........

Macademia nuts
peanut butter (no sugar)
cream cheese meat roll-ups
tuna fish/mayo/celery
almonds

Just a few off the top of my head.  They should keep your energy going
without a rush of blood to tthe head!
BREWERPAUL - 01 Mar 2004 12:07 GMT
Try cheese. You can also cook up some chicken breast and bring that cold.  Any
cold cuts, for that matter.  If you subscribe to the LC belief that whole fruit
is not so bad (eg South Beach) you can bring along some of that.
 With the amount of exertion on a long hike, I doubt that a minor sugar spike
is going to be a real big deal.
  I'm a hiker too ( NY Adirondacks) and for some reason I have always found
that I do not get really hungry when hiking. Even on a long day hike, I usually
only bring small amounts of food. Then, a nice big dinner at night...

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