As Splenda is not yet available in Belgium, I asked my daughter in SF to
send me some packets which arrived on Monday.
Ever since starting to use it in modest amounts (half a sachet in a cup of
tea), I have noticed a lingering after taste that lasts for more than an
hour. It's bad enough that I want to suck a strong sweet to get rid of the
taste.
Didn't I see somewhere that this should not happen? A check on the Splenda
web site confirmed that one of the 'features' they list is, 'Free of the
unpleasant aftertaste associated with some other artificial sweeteners'.
No doubt the lawyers would argue that this is a truthful statement because
it is not the 'same' unpleasant aftertaste associated with some other
artificial sweeteners.
Am I kidding myself or are they kidding us all?
Brian
iplom? - 03 Mar 2004 10:21 GMT
I have noticed a lingering after taste that lasts for
> more than an hour.
That seems strange. I myself have just started using Splenda and notice NO
aftertaste whatsoever. I tried other sweeteners before using splenda and
found they DID have an aftertaste.
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Priscilla H Ballou - 03 Mar 2004 22:16 GMT
"iplom." <iplom@hotmail.com> quoth:
>I have noticed a lingering after taste that lasts for
>> more than an hour.
>That seems strange. I myself have just started using Splenda and notice NO
>aftertaste whatsoever. I tried other sweeteners before using splenda and
>found they DID have an aftertaste.
Some people taste it, some don't. I do unless it's in a dish with a lot
of dairy in it.
Priscilla
Jeri - 03 Mar 2004 11:05 GMT
> As Splenda is not yet available in Belgium, I asked my daughter in SF
> to send me some packets which arrived on Monday.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> to get rid of the taste.
> Didn't I see somewhere that this should not happen?
<snip>
> Am I kidding myself or are they kidding us all?
Everyone's taste is different. Some here have said they do experience an
aftertaste from Splenda. I don't.
brian lanning - 03 Mar 2004 16:06 GMT
> Everyone's taste is different. Some here have said they do experience an
> aftertaste from Splenda. I don't.
For me, it depends on what it is. The atkins strawberry yogurt leaves
an after taste for me, but the peach flavor doesn't. Nor does the
bryers carbsmart ice cream.
brian
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Dick Yuknavech - 03 Mar 2004 17:57 GMT
>Everyone's taste is different. Some here have said they do experience an
>aftertaste from Splenda. I don't.
I can second that. I personally get no aftertaste from Splenda and a
negligibly small one from aspertame. Saccharin gives me a terrible
aftertaste even if I don't eat it. OK, so that's a small exaggeration.
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Stargazer - 03 Mar 2004 11:20 GMT
> As Splenda is not yet available in Belgium, I asked my daughter in SF to
> send me some packets which arrived on Monday.
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> artificial sweeteners.
> Am I kidding myself or are they kidding us all?
I find that it depends a lot on what you're using it in. I can't stand it
in coffee, myself - but find that it's good in a strawberry smoothie, for
example. I also find that it's somewhat of an acquired taste - the first
time I used it I got a strong aftertaste as well, but as I used it more I
found that I didn't get one. If I stop using it for a while and then start
again, the strong aftertaste returns until I've used it awhile again. I
couldn't even venture a good guess for why that is, <g>.
Kaye - 03 Mar 2004 11:49 GMT
Brian
I remember a long time ago on this group there was someone wasn't a big fan
of splenda for a not completly dissimilar reason. They used a tiny amount
of either aspartime or saccherine (I may be wrong here) with splenda.
Together they masked the others failing, ie aftertaste and initial taste.
You may find that you would be better of trying to get your daughter to get
you some liquid splenda, seeing as the powdered version is bulked out with
maltodextrin. There is a small chance that this could be the case, but if
you find that life without something to sweeten your tea is a difficult one
it may be worth your while. It's often the small things that make life
easy.
For me, my tastes changed drastically when I first got into ketosis. I used
to detest tea, now I will drink a few cups here and there of flavoured tea,
Earl Grey, Lapsang Shochong (sp) or Lady Grey. Oh and an increased appetite
for coffee (yes I do know better, but it's a hobby). You may just be in a
situation where your palette has changed and you might be better off
drinking something else.
At the end of the day, Dr A warns us to use Splenda in moderation and I am
completly impressed that you mention using only half a packet in a cup.
Hope this helps.
Kaye
> As Splenda is not yet available in Belgium, I asked my daughter in SF
> to send me some packets which arrived on Monday.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> to get rid of the taste.
> Didn't I see somewhere that this should not happen?
<snip>
> Am I kidding myself or are they kidding us all?
Carmen - 03 Mar 2004 11:50 GMT
Hello,
> As Splenda is not yet available in Belgium, I asked my daughter in
> SF to send me some packets which arrived on Monday.
> Ever since starting to use it in modest amounts (half a sachet in a
> cup of tea), I have noticed a lingering after taste that lasts for
> more
> than an hour.
SNIP
> Am I kidding myself or are they kidding us all?
Neither. You're getting an aftertaste that most don't get. The
cyclamate sweeteners I got from Canada get good reviews from most
people too, but to me I get a lesser version of the saccharin taste.
It all has to do with your particular physiology. You're special.
;-)
Take care,
Carmen
Marcusj - 03 Mar 2004 11:54 GMT
I get an aftertaste with Splenda in coffee, but not in most other things.
I do notice that when I use products that use pure sucralose (Davinci
syrups, etc) there is no aftertaste, so it could be that the aftertaste with
Splenda powder is the filler and not the sucralose itself.
I don't get an aftertaste with aspartame, but a lot of people do.
Saccharin to me has a terrible aftertaste.
I don't know that I've ever tried stevia.
It seems each individual is different in this respect.
Mark.
> As Splenda is not yet available in Belgium, I asked my daughter in SF to
> send me some packets which arrived on Monday.
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>
> Brian
Bob in CT - 03 Mar 2004 11:57 GMT
> I get an aftertaste with Splenda in coffee, but not in most other things.
> I do notice that when I use products that use pure sucralose (Davinci
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>
> Mark.
I definitely think it's the filler, as I have no aftertaste with any
product that uses pure splenda (aka sucralose).

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jmk - 03 Mar 2004 13:25 GMT
> I definitely think it's the filler, as I have no aftertaste with any
> product that uses pure splenda (aka sucralose).
Interesting. I really really get the aftertaste bad in baked goods --
which probably have the most filler.

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Harold Groot - 03 Mar 2004 12:01 GMT
>As Splenda is not yet available in Belgium, I asked my daughter in SF to
>send me some packets which arrived on Monday.
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>Am I kidding myself or are they kidding us all?
>Brian
It's just one of those things - MOST people do not notice any
aftertaste with Splenda, you just happen to be one of the few that do.
I have a friend who claims she can smell it on my breath when =I= have
a drink containing Splenda - but she has an extraordinary sense of
smell. Most people can't do that.
Chet Hayes - 03 Mar 2004 14:54 GMT
No aftertaste at all here, either.
martymkm@webtv.net - 04 Mar 2004 00:14 GMT
Something in Diet Rite cola leaves an aftertaste in my mouth.and it's
sweetened with Splenda. It did before LC too so...
Marty.
jamie - 04 Mar 2004 10:42 GMT
> Something in Diet Rite cola leaves an aftertaste in my mouth.and it's
> sweetened with Splenda. It did before LC too so...=A0
> Marty.
I think that's the Diet Rite cola base. Plenty of other Splenda
drinks don't have that aftertaste.

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martymkm@webtv.net - 04 Mar 2004 17:05 GMT
I think that's the Diet Rite cola base. Plenty of other Splenda drinks
don't have that aftertaste.
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I will have to check out different varieties of drinks then. Diet Rite
cola is the only "sweetened" liquid I drink, so I just figured that the
additive Splenda was the culprit.
Thanks for the nudge in the right direction!
Marty
jmk - 03 Mar 2004 13:24 GMT
> As Splenda is not yet available in Belgium, I asked my daughter in SF to
> send me some packets which arrived on Monday.
> Ever since starting to use it in modest amounts (half a sachet in a cup of
> tea), I have noticed a lingering after taste that lasts for more than an
> hour. It's bad enough that I want to suck a strong sweet to get rid of the
> taste.
The same thing happens to me.

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Crafting Mom - 03 Mar 2004 14:08 GMT
It's largely because splenda is new to you I guess. To compare,
I've gone weeks without any refined sugar and any sweet fruit, and
then I ate something with refined sugar in it, and I found that even
sugar itself has an aftertaste that is weird, simply because I wasn't
giving myself drip-feedings of sweet things daily, and my body, and
tastebuds were no longer "used to" it.
> it is not the 'same' unpleasant aftertaste associated with some other
> artificial sweeteners.
> Am I kidding myself or are they kidding us all?
>
> Brian
wilson - 04 Mar 2004 08:48 GMT
To compare,
> I've gone weeks without any refined sugar and any sweet fruit, and
> then I ate something with refined sugar in it, and I found that even
> sugar itself has an aftertaste that is weird, simply because I wasn't
> giving myself drip-feedings of sweet things daily, and my body, and
> tastebuds were no longer "used to" it.
This is an interesting observation.
I find that when I am off of fast carbs ("white foods") and sugar for
a little while, a section of ordinary grapefruit will taste *sweet*,
and do the job for me. Small bits of fruit taste SOOOOO good when I'm
off sugar.
I also find that my coffee will be fine just with milk and no
sweetener, or with a touch of Splenda.
When I was in a heavy sugar-using mode, I had to keep increasing the
doses to be satisfied.
[I didn't quit sugar - sugar quit ME. Nasty side effects.]
- A. Wilson
Jean M. - 03 Mar 2004 15:22 GMT
>I have noticed a lingering after taste that lasts for more than an
>hour.
I don't notice it with Splenda. Then again, I don't use it often. I
did notice a distinct aftertaste with Stevia, though. Everyone is
different. You might be able to use it in foods instead of drinks. Or
you may not want to use it at all.
Nancy Howells - 03 Mar 2004 16:20 GMT
> As Splenda is not yet available in Belgium, I asked my daughter in SF to
> send me some packets which arrived on Monday.
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>
> Brian
Some people have that reaction - others don't. It's like any artificial
sweetener.

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rosie - 03 Mar 2004 16:45 GMT
i experience NO AFTER TASTE with splenda

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> As Splenda is not yet available in Belgium, I asked my daughter in SF to
> send me some packets which arrived on Monday.
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> Brian
TdN - 03 Mar 2004 16:59 GMT
You and I are just two of the unlucky minority who get an unpleasant
aftertaste from Splenda. (I find that it tastes like soap!)
At least I'm not one of the people for whom cilantro (a/k/a coriander
leaf) tastes like soap. It's one of my favorite herbs.
T.
Cailleachschilde - 11 Mar 2004 05:04 GMT
>You and I are just two of the unlucky minority who get an unpleasant
>aftertaste from Splenda. (I find that it tastes like soap!)
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>
>T.
Then I must really be in a minority. Not only do I have an aftertaste with
splenda (even a little in DaVincis syrups), but I'm allergic to cilantro (and
it tastes bad).
Yvonne
Candace - 11 Mar 2004 15:28 GMT
I have the same problem with Cilantro. I can also tell that Splenda is
used - but it doesn't give me migraines like aspartame does. The Splenda
after taste isn't any worse for me than most diet foods so I just deal with
it on the occasions I use sugar free items.
Candace
> >You and I are just two of the unlucky minority who get an unpleasant
> >aftertaste from Splenda. (I find that it tastes like soap!)
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>
> Yvonne
Brian - 03 Mar 2004 19:03 GMT
> As Splenda is not yet available in Belgium, I asked my daughter in SF to
> send me some packets which arrived on Monday.
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> artificial sweeteners.
> Am I kidding myself or are they kidding us all?
Wow! A very divided and rapid response.
I guess, as some of you have said, it is a very subjective issue - some
people are sensitive to the aftertaste and some are not. I will see if my
daughter can send me some liquid Splenda but, elsewhere in this NG, there
has been some debate about the liquid form having disappeared from the
market.
It may well be that the filler in the sachets causes the aftertaste and it
could be that I will get used to it.
I did already try Stevia but could only get the ground dried leaves which
were horrible. Since then, I have discovered that Stevia is banned in the EU
since 1998 but probably only because the big sugar companies have lobbied
against it. The ruling says it is banned because there are no valid
scientific tests to prove that it is not harmful. Big business wins again!
Thanks for your comments.
Brian
Cheri - 03 Mar 2004 19:03 GMT
Yes I have that too with the powdered Splenda. It's terrible, lasting
for hours but not seeming to have it at all with the liquid Splenda.
Dunno why.
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>As Splenda is not yet available in Belgium, I asked my daughter in SF to
>send me some packets which arrived on Monday.
>Ever since starting to use it in modest amounts (half a sachet in a cup of
>tea), I have noticed a lingering after taste that lasts for more than an
>hour. It's bad enough that I want to suck a strong sweet to get rid of the
>taste.
jamie - 03 Mar 2004 19:32 GMT
> As Splenda is not yet available in Belgium, I asked my daughter in SF to
> send me some packets which arrived on Monday.
> Ever since starting to use it in modest amounts (half a sachet in a cup of
> tea), I have noticed a lingering after taste that lasts for more than an
> hour. It's bad enough that I want to suck a strong sweet to get rid of the
> taste.
The ability to taste aftertaste in the various artificial sweeteners
apparently varies from person to person (except for saccharin, which
is fairly universally bitter in aftertaste).
Most people don't taste an aftertaste in Splenda, but some do. Many
people taste little or no aftertaste in aspartame, while I find it a
strong taste like the smell of melted plastic.
However, there is some difference in filler between Splenda sachets
and bulk. I can taste a mild aftertaste in the packets that I don't
taste in the bulk. According to the ingredients, the bulk is padded
with just maltodextrin, and the packets have maltodextrin and dextrose.
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A. Brown - 03 Mar 2004 21:54 GMT
> As Splenda is not yet available in Belgium, I asked my daughter in SF
> to send me some packets which arrived on Monday.
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>
> Brian
I didn't notice an aftertaste when I tried it in some commercially-
produced beverages, but I DEFINITELY notice it in other things,
especially things I've made myself with the packaged stuff (packets or
boxed).
I made Karen Barnaby's low-carb tiramisu
(http://www.lowcarb.ca/karen/recipe037.html), which was incredibly
delicious, except for the ungodly aftertaste. A couple of the people who
tried it said they didn't notice any aftertaste at all - they absolutely
loved it.
Perhaps it has something to do with how it's prepared (cooked or not), or
maybe there are certain other ingredients that bring out the aftertaste.
The funny thing is, I didn't really notice the aftertaste in the cake
part, only in the filling. At any rate, some people seem to notice it and
some don't. A friend of mine also made it since her husband is on Atkins.
She noticed the aftertaste, but he didn't.
As for the tiramisu itself, it's fantastic if the Splenda doesn't bother
you. It's time-consuming to make, but well worthwhile - you could serve
that stuff in a restaurant to rave reviews. I'd make it again for a
special occasion, but go whole hog and use sugar, since I'm on
maintenance and I'd rather just have the sugar occasionally than use
artificial sweeteners.
By the way, the almond cake part of the recipe is very good by itself,
I'm sure it could be used in many other ways than just part of a
tiramisu. No funky ingredients (other than the Splenda).

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Marsha - 04 Mar 2004 01:35 GMT
> As Splenda is not yet available in Belgium, I asked my daughter in SF to
> send me some packets which arrived on Monday.
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> artificial sweeteners.
> Am I kidding myself or are they kidding us all?
My SO, who is not low-carbing and doesn't need to, can taste
it and smell it in powder form. He says it's nasty and
upsets his stomach.
Marsha/Ohio
Elinor Dashwood - 04 Mar 2004 03:19 GMT
> Didn't I see somewhere that this should not happen? A check on the Splenda
> web site confirmed that one of the 'features' they list is, 'Free of the
> unpleasant aftertaste associated with some other artificial sweeteners'.
I get no aftertaste and I am generally rather sensitive to that kind of
thing. But I can't imagine why anyone would (except maybe for the
additive in the bulk) since Splenda is not your typical artificial
sweetener, is it? It's sugar with a modified molecule so that the body
simply does not recognize and process it as sugar. But it is indeed
sugar.
I wonder if you might also get an aftertaste from sugar.
jamie - 04 Mar 2004 10:41 GMT
> I get no aftertaste and I am generally rather sensitive to that kind of
> thing. But I can't imagine why anyone would (except maybe for the
> additive in the bulk) since Splenda is not your typical artificial
> sweetener, is it? It's sugar with a modified molecule so that the body
> simply does not recognize and process it as sugar. But it is indeed
> sugar.
No, it's NOT sugar, changing the molecule makes it not sugar.
It's merely made by altering sugar. It's not "processed" as
sugar because it's 600 times as sweet. The few milligrams of
sucralose you get in a packet is not enough to make a difference
even if it *was* sugar.
There's a tremendous difference between water (H2O) and peroxide
(H2O2) and sulfuric acid (H2SO4), even though the molecules are not
that different. Sucralose is no closer to sugar than sulfuric acid
is to water.
And except for the few milligrams of sucralose, the rese of the packet
contents are the maltodextrin and dextrose fillers, not the sucralose,
so that may be involved in the aftertaste.

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Elinor Dashwood - 04 Mar 2004 19:59 GMT
> > I get no aftertaste and I am generally rather sensitive to that kind of
> > thing. But I can't imagine why anyone would (except maybe for the
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> No, it's NOT sugar, changing the molecule makes it not sugar.
> It's merely made by altering sugar.
Thanks for the correction. I should have said it was made from sugar.
You're right; they are not one and the same. But the relationship is
quite close. One is made from the other--- unlike other sweeteners like
aspartame, saccharin and others.
> .....It's not "processed" as
> sugar because it's 600 times as sweet.
It is not processed as sugar because the molecule has been modified by
chloride. I doubt the degree of sweetness has anything to do with how
it is metabolized--- unless you can establish that?
> ...... The few milligrams of sucralose you get in a packet is not
> enough to make a difference even if it *was* sugar.
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> that different. Sucralose is no closer to sugar than sulfuric acid
> is to water.
I suspect your attempted analogy is both overblown and misleading based
on what I've read in the literature and based on the fact that it is
definitely possible that different molecules can still be called "sugar"
(eg-dextrose, sucrose, maltose, etc.). But since I am not a chemist,
I'll leave you to argue it with someone else. :)
.
jpatti - 05 Mar 2004 12:09 GMT
> I suspect your attempted analogy is both overblown and misleading based
> on what I've read in the literature and based on the fact that it is
> definitely possible that different molecules can still be called "sugar"
> (eg-dextrose, sucrose, maltose, etc.). But since I am not a chemist,
> I'll leave you to argue it with someone else. :)
I am a chemist. Well, actually I'm a programmer, but I used to be a
chemist.
There are many chemicals that are sugar (glucose, fructose, maltose,
etc.) or sugar-like (starch, cellulose, etc.). But sucralose is *not*
a sugar at all chemically nor is it a sugar-like polymer like starch.
Being made from something doesn't make it similar chemically *or*
biochemically. The "natural cause it's made from sugar" is just
marketing hype.
Water is made from hydrogen and oxygen, but there's no use drinking 8
glasses of hydrogen and oxygen per day. ;)
*Everything* is made from natural things, there's no "unnatural"
starting ingredients. Nevertheless, sucralose is an artifical
sweetener as sure a aspartame is. They just don't want it to sound
artificial.
Elinor Dashwood - 05 Mar 2004 20:39 GMT
> > I suspect your attempted analogy is both overblown and misleading based
> > on what I've read in the literature and based on the fact that it is
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> etc.) or sugar-like (starch, cellulose, etc.). But sucralose is *not*
> a sugar at all chemically nor is it a sugar-like polymer like starch.
Yes I already agreed it wasn't so, like I already said, there is no need
to beat a dead horse--- unless, of course, you feel the need to impress
everyone.
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queen - 06 Mar 2004 04:57 GMT
> Yes I already agreed it wasn't so, like I already said, there is no need
> to beat a dead horse--- unless, of course, you feel the need to impress
> everyone.
>
> <snip>
Maybe it counts as exercise.
jpatti - 05 Mar 2004 12:11 GMT
> Thanks for the correction. I should have said it was made from sugar.
> You're right; they are not one and the same. But the relationship is
> quite close. One is made from the other--- unlike other sweeteners like
> aspartame, saccharin and others.
Aspartame is made from amino acids, which are the building blocks of protein.
Aspartame is not protein though.
But it is just as "natural" as sucralose... comes from a lab, same as sucralose.
Elinor Dashwood - 05 Mar 2004 20:35 GMT
> > Thanks for the correction. I should have said it was made from sugar.
> > You're right; they are not one and the same. But the relationship is
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>
> Aspartame is not protein though.
I already gave my thanks for the correction. Mayhap you'd like to beat
a dead horse?
> But it is just as "natural" as sucralose... comes from a lab, same as
> sucralose.
Who said anything about "natural"? And what does any of this have to do
with anything I said?
Brian - 04 Mar 2004 21:55 GMT
It's sugar with a modified molecule so that the body
> simply does not recognize and process it as sugar. But it is indeed
> sugar.
I would dispute that argument because the chemical modification causes it to
not be sugar any longer. It may be derived from sugar but that is all.
> I wonder if you might also get an aftertaste from sugar.
Certainly I did notice a sugar aftertaste went I went back to it after a
couple of years on Canderel (aspartame). No doubt I will gradually become
less conscious of the Splenda aftertaste with time.
Brian