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Exercise and muscle aches

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Luna - 04 Mar 2004 00:42 GMT
I have a problem.  I think I'm becoming addicted to muscle aches from
exercising.   I had the aches after the first day of weight training at the
Y last week, then they went away when I was doing just weights and yoga,
then they came back after my cardio class last night, and stayed with me
today after weight training again.  I really LOVE the way it feels when my
legs are a bit wobbly, or when I reach above my head to get something and I
feel that tightness in my triceps and shoulders.  I'm being careful not to
push myself so hard that I get injured, but man, I love that muscle burn.

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Bear - 04 Mar 2004 00:49 GMT
Hey Michelle - I always thought there was something cool about aching from a
workout. It's so much better than feeling achey from sitting on your butt
all day. Enjoy!
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> I have a problem.  I think I'm becoming addicted to muscle aches from
> exercising.   I had the aches after the first day of weight training at the
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> feel that tightness in my triceps and shoulders.  I'm being careful not to
> push myself so hard that I get injured, but man, I love that muscle burn.
Roger Zoul - 04 Mar 2004 03:07 GMT
:: Hey Michelle - I always thought there was something cool about
:: aching from a workout. It's so much better than feeling achey from
:: sitting on your butt all day. Enjoy!

Now that is sooooo true!
JC Der Koenig - 04 Mar 2004 02:06 GMT
Be careful: the more you work out, the harder it is to get sore afterwards.

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Becky P.

> I have a problem.  I think I'm becoming addicted to muscle aches from
> exercising.   I had the aches after the first day of weight training at the
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> feel that tightness in my triceps and shoulders.  I'm being careful not to
> push myself so hard that I get injured, but man, I love that muscle burn.
carla - 04 Mar 2004 03:25 GMT
> Be careful: the more you work out, the harder it is to get sore afterwards.

I've noticed that, and it annoys me, because I like it the same way Luna
described.  I do still get sore from lifting when I do a new exercise that
isn't part of my regular routine.

carla
JC Der Koenig - 04 Mar 2004 03:34 GMT
Some people extrapolate upon that soreness as meaning you should change
exercises periodically. The jury is still out.

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Becky P.

> > Be careful: the more you work out, the harder it is to get sore
> afterwards.
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>
> carla
Marsha - 05 Mar 2004 01:25 GMT
> Some people extrapolate upon that soreness as meaning you should change
> exercises periodically. The jury is still out.

Does a different exercise for the same muscle produce new
soreness?  And when you switch back to the first exercise
after some period of time, will you get sore anew?  I would
think that since weights are supposed to "injure" the
muscle, you should change when it no longer does that?

Marsha/Ohio
JC Der Koenig - 05 Mar 2004 02:40 GMT
There's a whole lot of conjecture out there, but nobody knows for sure when
considering periodization.  Thus, YMMV. If you like getting sore, then try
to get sore. Even something like changing rep schemes within the same
exercise can cause sorness. Your body, your science experiment.

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Becky P.

> > Some people extrapolate upon that soreness as meaning you should change
> > exercises periodically. The jury is still out.
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> Marsha/Ohio
Roger Zoul - 05 Mar 2004 11:12 GMT
:: JC Der Koenig wrote:
::: Some people extrapolate upon that soreness as meaning you should
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:: think that since weights are supposed to "injure" the
:: muscle, you should change when it no longer does that?

Remember this: you don't need to get sore to make progress.  Just make sure
you're using challenging weights for the rep range and exercise you're
doing.  Increase the weight when it starts getting easy.  I don't think
changing the exercises based on soreness is a good idea, especially if that
means moving to an inferior movement.  Stick with compound movements that
involve lots of muscle groups working together.

I rarely get sore any more unless I just start doing set after set after
set. I do tend to get stiff after a hard workoout.

:: Marsha/Ohio
JC Der Koenig - 05 Mar 2004 12:02 GMT
> I do tend to get stiff after a hard workoout.

When she gives me a massage.
Roger Zoul - 05 Mar 2004 14:21 GMT
::: I do tend to get stiff after a hard workoout.
::
:: When she gives me a massage.

Hahaha.....that's not what I meant, but that would be true!
Luna - 05 Mar 2004 16:39 GMT
> :: JC Der Koenig wrote:
> ::: Some people extrapolate upon that soreness as meaning you should
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> I rarely get sore any more unless I just start doing set after set after
> set. I do tend to get stiff after a hard workoout.

For me, I seem to not get sore just from my weight lifting, in this my
second week, even on the machines where I have increased the amount of
weight.  But any cardio activity I do that is new to me does make me sore.  
Even yoga, which does not look very strenuous when you're just watching,
but since I have never done it before and I'm not very good at it, I have
to fight for just about every pose.  Even if yoga doesn't burn many
calories or increase strength very much, I am excited about what it could
do for me in terms of fine muscle control related to balance.  People tend
to lose that control as they age, from lack of the practice that we
typically get as children.

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Bob in CT - 05 Mar 2004 16:46 GMT
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> For me, I seem to not get sore just from my weight lifting, in this my
> second week, even on the machines where I have increased the amount of
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> to lose that control as they age, from lack of the practice that we
> typically get as children.

Yoga should help in balance.  Have you seen those boards (made by Reebok,
among others) that have a ball in the middle of them?  You balance on the
ball.  They're pretty brutal, and I've been thinking of using them to help
with an ankle injury.

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Paper - 06 Mar 2004 10:11 GMT
>Yoga should help in balance.  Have you seen those boards (made by Reebok,
>among others) that have a ball in the middle of them?  You balance on the
>ball.  They're pretty brutal, and I've been thinking of using them to help
>with an ankle injury.

LOL! We have these at my gym. My trainer got me on one last week -
after much protest from me, and while I first thought it would just be
a waste of time, I'm going to make an effort to use it a couple of
times a week. Thom the Tyrant had me doing squats with 5 lb weights
once I found my balance.

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Luna - 04 Mar 2004 03:34 GMT
Then I'll just have to work out even harder. :o) Whenever I reach the top
of my target on a machine, I add more weight for the next time, so that
should help.  Plus I'm going to keep varying what I do for cardio - yoga,
pilates, kickboxing, swimming.  Heck, I may even try some of the cardio
machines, though I fear the boredom factor.  It seems so far that every
time I try something new, I have new aches in new places, which is cool.  
I'd also like to find a tennis partner, I seem to remember it from high
school as a good way to get out aggressions.  

> Be careful: the more you work out, the harder it is to get sore afterwards.
>
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> > feel that tightness in my triceps and shoulders.  I'm being careful not to
> > push myself so hard that I get injured, but man, I love that muscle burn.

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JC Der Koenig - 04 Mar 2004 03:40 GMT
Look into power lifting or olympic weightlifting. They are very goal
oriented. Both are life time endeavors.

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Becky P.

> Then I'll just have to work out even harder. :o) Whenever I reach the top
> of my target on a machine, I add more weight for the next time, so that
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> > > feel that tightness in my triceps and shoulders.  I'm being careful not to
> > > push myself so hard that I get injured, but man, I love that muscle burn.
Chrono-Z - 05 Mar 2004 06:09 GMT
Since i've been going for about 3 weeks the only way i've found to get the
soreness back is to add more weight. Becareful though or you will end up
like me incapacitated for a few days.
> Then I'll just have to work out even harder. :o) Whenever I reach the top
> of my target on a machine, I add more weight for the next time, so that
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> > > feel that tightness in my triceps and shoulders.  I'm being careful not to
> > > push myself so hard that I get injured, but man, I love that muscle burn.
JC Der Koenig - 05 Mar 2004 10:04 GMT
Work out steadily for about 3 years and you'll find it difficult to make
yourself sore.

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Most of us probably aren't in danger of eating too little. :)

Becky P.

> Since i've been going for about 3 weeks the only way i've found to get the
> soreness back is to add more weight. Becareful though or you will end up
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> > > > push myself so hard that I get injured, but man, I love that muscle
> burn.
Roger Zoul - 04 Mar 2004 03:08 GMT
:: I have a problem.  I think I'm becoming addicted to muscle aches from
:: exercising.   I had the aches after the first day of weight training
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
:: my triceps and shoulders.  I'm being careful not to push myself so
:: hard that I get injured, but man, I love that muscle burn.

Good!  Many get turned off at the soreness.  Remember though, it's not
necessary to get sore to make progress in weight training. It does let you
know  you're doing some of the movements right -- or at least hitting the
target muscles.
Paper - 04 Mar 2004 13:47 GMT
>I have a problem.  I think I'm becoming addicted to muscle aches from
>exercising.   I had the aches after the first day of weight training at the
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>feel that tightness in my triceps and shoulders.  I'm being careful not to
>push myself so hard that I get injured, but man, I love that muscle burn.

Me too. After 7 months of gym membership I can really feel the muscle
definition under the fat. Unfortunately, 7 months of complex carb
eating did nothing to get rid of my fat. Down a pound - up two. I've
only been low-carbing again since Sunday and already I feel a
difference, and the scale shows it too.

Paper

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