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Tony Lew - 05 Mar 2004 18:00 GMT
So they're finally realizing this NOW?
Isn't this what Atkins was saying way back when a guy named Kennedy
was occupying the White House?

From:  http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2004/03/05/MNG
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"The researchers found that children who adhered to a moderate fat
intake, between 30 and 35 percent of total daily calories, were leaner
and healthier than those consuming either low-fat or high-fat diets.

More flab may seem a logical result of eating too much fat -- or too
much of anything. The link between low-fat diets and childhood obesity
was more complicated.

Moore said it appeared to have something to do with an increase in
carbohydrate consumption. Carbohydrates are quickly metabolized. As a
result, the kids getting too little fat seemed to be gulping down
carbohydrates and lots of empty calories to compensate, messing up
their fat storage and getting hungry too quickly between meals."

"So, in the end, they may over-consume," Moore said.
Bob in CT - 05 Mar 2004 18:08 GMT
> So they're finally realizing this NOW?
> Isn't this what Atkins was saying way back when a guy named Kennedy
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>
> "So, in the end, they may over-consume," Moore said.

I'm skeptical that a child on a high fat diet is heavier than one on a
medium fat diet.

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Mirek Fidler - 05 Mar 2004 21:40 GMT
> > "So, in the end, they may over-consume," Moore said.
>
> I'm skeptical that a child on a high fat diet is heavier than one on a
> medium fat diet.

On high fat, high carb, low protein diet -> very likely.

You should realize that these kids probably are not doing LC - they
simply eat too much both carbs and fat....

Mirek
queen - 06 Mar 2004 04:55 GMT
> So they're finally realizing this NOW?
> Isn't this what Atkins was saying way back when a guy named Kennedy
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
> "So, in the end, they may over-consume," Moore said.

I think it has more to do with the fact that most children don't have
to get up  in the morning, slop the hogs, milk the cows, fetch pails
of water, get the firewood and stoke the stove any more.  Then walk a
mile to school, walk a mile back, then help weed the garden, plant the
seedlings, pick the eggs, and pickle the produce.  Hell, even city
kids had to walk everywhere just a few decades back.  My childhood
skinniness was almost certainly due to my chore load and walking
everywhere.  I certainly didn't give a rats a.s what I ate until I
started sitting on my butt all day.
Tony Lew - 06 Mar 2004 17:58 GMT
> > So they're finally realizing this NOW?
> > Isn't this what Atkins was saying way back when a guy named Kennedy
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
> everywhere.  I certainly didn't give a rats a.s what I ate until I
> started sitting on my butt all day.

 What does this have to do with the above?  The point is that children
eating low-fat diets are fatter than those on medium-fat diets.
Neither group, as far as I know, slops hogs, milks cows, etc.
Denis Morissette - 07 Mar 2004 23:57 GMT
> > > So they're finally realizing this NOW?
> > > Isn't this what Atkins was saying way back when a guy named Kennedy
[quoted text clipped - 31 lines]
> eating low-fat diets are fatter than those on medium-fat diets.
> Neither group, as far as I know, slops hogs, milks cows, etc.

Queen?? Anything to say for your defence??? :)
so,talkalready - 13 Mar 2004 06:17 GMT
I think it has more to do with the fact that most children don't have
to get up  in the morning, slop the hogs, milk the cows, fetch pails
of water, get the firewood and stoke the stove any more.  Then walk a
mile to school, walk a mile back, then help weed the garden, plant the
seedlings, pick the eggs, and pickle the produce.  Hell, even city
kids had to walk everywhere just a few decades back.  My childhood
skinniness was almost certainly due to my chore load and walking
everywhere.  I certainly didn't give a rats a.s what I ate until I
started sitting on my butt all day.

I agree with your comments above being a city kid whose parents could
not afford bus tickets and had to walk 1 1/2 miles to school and then
back home. We also did not have a computer or computer games, a game
boy or nintendo box, and we had to do sports at lunch time in school.
Have parents overcompensated due to pedophiles and kidnappings? BTW,
it is cheaper to eat at McDonald's in the States than it is in Canada
but we are slowly getting there.
LCer09 - 13 Mar 2004 16:15 GMT
>Have parents overcompensated due to pedophiles and kidnappings?

IMHO? Yes! I know parents who consider me practically abusive because I let my
daughter actually go out and ride her bike. My rules are that she has to be
with at least one friend (and our street is overflowing with kids), has to stay
within our smallish neighborhood, and be back at whatever time I give her. I
swear you would think I was selling her into white slavery from the responses
some parents give me. She's *outside*!? Not safely inside watching TV and
eating chips, where a kid should be?! That combined with parents who let their
kids eat school lunch (the most carb laden and nutritionally void food on
earth) and we've got some FAT kids out there.

LCing since 12/01/03-
Me- 265/222/140
& hubby- 310/243/180
 
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