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STALLED- 5 weeks! HELP!

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LJ - 07 Mar 2004 16:06 GMT
I've ben LC since mid January. I lost 15# within the first week. Thelast 5
weeks, I've lost nothing. I kept my carbs low under 25 the whole time. I
tried upping them, and gained back 3! I gave up anything with sugar alcohols
for 2 weeks to see if that would help. I started walking 2 miles daily and
have ate the recommended food (Veg. salad meat etc). The only thing I['ve
been just a bit lacking at is the water consumption--most days I get in the
rec. amount, but osmetimes fall shorts. I am in moderate ketosis and have
been for the whole time.

I'm about ready to give up. The main thing that has kept me LC is that the
sugar cravings are gone and I dont want to go back to having them. ANy
suggestions?
AmyB - 07 Mar 2004 16:21 GMT
What are your stats?  How tall are you?  What is your current and goal
weight?  And what (exactly) have you been eating. (quanity and quality?)
Male or Female?

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AmyB
LC since 12/01/03
238/211/165
> I've ben LC since mid January. I lost 15# within the first week. Thelast 5
> weeks, I've lost nothing. I kept my carbs low under 25 the whole time. I
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> sugar cravings are gone and I dont want to go back to having them. ANy
> suggestions?
LJ - 07 Mar 2004 16:48 GMT
> What are your stats?  How tall are you?  What is your current and goal
> weight?  And what (exactly) have you been eating. (quanity and quality?)
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> LC since 12/01/03
> 238/211/165

5'6" female 189/175/140

typical day: breakfast: sausage, eggs, water

Usually one of the following choices for Lunch and/or dinner: big salad w/
eggs, bacon bits, ham, carrots, onions (sometimes a small salad with a side
of some type meat), tuna salad, chicken salad, vegetable soup

snacks: usually one serving of the following: nuts (none in the past several
weeks), cheese slices- sharp cheddar (very little of this), Breyers LC ice
cream, Diet Rite, for a treat: carborite peanut M&M
DoughBoy - 08 Mar 2004 16:27 GMT
> 5'6" female 189/175/140
>
> typical day: breakfast: sausage, eggs, water

Looks pretty good.  Check to make sure the sausage doesn't have any fillers
or sugars.  Also make sure that it isn't too high in nitrates.

> Usually one of the following choices for Lunch and/or dinner: big salad w/
> eggs, bacon bits, ham, carrots, onions (sometimes a small salad with a side
> of some type meat), tuna salad, chicken salad, vegetable soup

Cut the carrots, they're loaded with sugar.  Be careful with the amount of
onions you use.  Make sure you're using REAL bacon bits.  The vast majority
of the 'bacon bits' that you get from the store are some sort of soy product
that is loaded with carbs to make it taste good.  If you're eating salad,
don't eat iceberg.  Iceberg is just green colored water.  Get some dark
green veggies that actually have some nutritional value.

Also consider getting more/better veggies.  Spinach, broccoli, asparagus,
bok choy, peppers, eggplant, etc.

You should be drinking at least 90 ounces of water a day.  The only thing
that counts as water, is water.

> snacks: usually one serving of the following: nuts (none in the past several
> weeks), cheese slices- sharp cheddar (very little of this), Breyers LC ice
> cream, Diet Rite, for a treat: carborite peanut M&M

Cheese has been known to stall people, as has nuts.

Ice cream and M&M's are not low carb, no matter what the package says.
Stop eating them.  They are the most likely reason that you're not losing.
PJx - 08 Mar 2004 16:41 GMT
It's so simple!

Fast for 24 hours, one day a week.
PJ

>> 5'6" female 189/175/140
>>
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> Ice cream and M&M's are not low carb, no matter what the package says.
>Stop eating them.  They are the most likely reason that you're not losing.
Ignoramus10668 - 08 Mar 2004 17:07 GMT
>  It's so simple!
>
>  Fast for 24 hours, one day a week.

I do fast one day per week (36 hours fasting, not 24).

i

>>> 5'6" female 189/175/140
>>>
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>> Ice cream and M&M's are not low carb, no matter what the package says.
>>Stop eating them.  They are the most likely reason that you're not losing.
Mike - 08 Mar 2004 17:29 GMT
what does fasting do for the body and losing weight?

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LC since Feb '04
205/194 . .goal 175 by May '04

> >  It's so simple!
> >
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> >> Ice cream and M&M's are not low carb, no matter what the package says.
> >>Stop eating them.  They are the most likely reason that you're not losing.
Ignoramus10668 - 08 Mar 2004 18:09 GMT
> what does fasting do for the body and losing weight?

I only started fasting when I reached normal weight. I tried to lose a
bit more weight, and could not. Obviously, some would say that Icould
just eat less, but it was hard to eat less. So, instead, I decided to
continue eating like Ihad been eating prior, and simply skip one day
completely. It is still more of an experiment than something that I
would definitely recommend, but so far, the results are positive.

1. I am losing 1-2 lb per month, which is all I need (I plan to lose
no more than 13 lbs this year, preferably 10).

2. My appetite is more controllable, in the sense that, say, if I am
forced to skip a meal, I do not panic, as I know that being temporarily
hungry is not the end of the world.

3. I do not compensate fasts with binges.

4. Somehow I feel "cleaner" these days, although this feeling is not
quantifiable and may be due to a placebo effect.

5. I save quite a bit of time on Thursdays by not having to eat.

i
Martha Gallagher - 08 Mar 2004 21:07 GMT

> You should be drinking at least 90 ounces of water a day.  The only thing

Ghod, no. Most normal people need a great deal less than that, most of
which can come from incidental water you get from food, other drinks, etc.
Some people can handle that much but there's really no evidence that you
need it or that it's good for you.

> that counts as water, is water.

Nope, even the water in your veggies counts.

Martha

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Begin where you are - but don't end there.

JC Der Koenig - 07 Mar 2004 16:29 GMT
Try eating less. Exercising wouldn't hurt either.

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Most of us probably aren't in danger of eating too little. :)

Becky P.

> I've ben LC since mid January. I lost 15# within the first week. Thelast 5
> weeks, I've lost nothing. I kept my carbs low under 25 the whole time. I
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> sugar cravings are gone and I dont want to go back to having them. ANy
> suggestions?
DigitalVinyl - 07 Mar 2004 19:11 GMT
>I've ben LC since mid January. I lost 15# within the first week. Thelast 5
>weeks, I've lost nothing. I kept my carbs low under 25 the whole time. I
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>
>I'm about ready to give up.
Why?  
Do you feel you are depriving yourself in some way?  
Are you going hungry?

If your plan was to go on Atkins for a few months then drop off, it is
a bad idea. You have to change how you eat/exercise permanently to
avoid bouncing back to your high weight or worse. That's the goal for
Atkins.

Maybe you didn't up yor carbs properly and expand your diet. I stayed
at induction for 5 weeks before I started upping mine. And YES, in the
first few days of each week as I upped my weight went up or stalled,
followed by reductions at end of week which resulted in net losses. I
am staying at each carb level for two weeks instead of one--easier for
me to see what my weight loss is at each level.

Track everything you eat at fitday.com and see what you are really
eating--calorie wise.

Also, know that "NET CARBS" is a marketing term only. Breyers is not
4g per 1/2 cup, it is 7g. Sugar Alcohols convert into glucose and
calories just like other sugars, just not at a rate of 4cal/gm or
possibly as quickly.

>The main thing that has kept me LC is that the
>sugar cravings are gone and I dont want to go back to having them. ANy
>suggestions?

Stop thinking of maintaining a healthy weight as a race to the finish?
Your body may not be ready to lose more than the 15 lbs you already
lost. Make sure you take appropriate vitamins and supplements, each
veggies/fiber/variety. Track your calories and see what you are really
eating instead of guessing/estimating.

DiGiTAL_ViNYL (no email)
350/323/Mar-315/200
Atkins since 1/12/2004
Mike - 07 Mar 2004 20:17 GMT
Exercise more.

Walk 2 or more miles, 5 or 6 days a week.  It's only walking. If you want to
improve more, run for a minute and walk two, repeat.

Questions is how much do you want to lose these pounds.

Don't blame low carbing and stalling, you have to do more activity. Fat
doesn't burn off sitting on your a.s.

> I've ben LC since mid January. I lost 15# within the first week. Thelast 5
> weeks, I've lost nothing. I kept my carbs low under 25 the whole time. I
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> sugar cravings are gone and I dont want to go back to having them. ANy
> suggestions?
Rapsmom1 - 07 Mar 2004 21:09 GMT
Well, after low-carbing for 7 months, I just started back on induction level
eating 4 days ago.  I've been tracking everying with Fitday.  

I think newbies are kidding themselves about how many carbs they eat.  Even
eating only induction "legal" foods, I'm finding it almost impossible to eat 20
grams of carbs or less per day.  I'm usually closer to 25.  My stall has broken
though - I'm down 3 pounds for a new low!  for the last 4 days this is my
sample menu:

B - 1 egg scrambled, 2-3 slices bacon, 24 oz. coffee, 2 sweet n low packets, 2
T. heavy cream = 6 carbs

L - 2-3 cups lettuce, 1 oz. cheese, 4-5 oz. deli turkey, 3 T. ranch dressing =
8 carbs

D - some type of meat or fish and some type of veggie such as brocolli or
asparagus = approx. 6 carbs

That's 20 grams right there with no snacks, and other than my a.m coffee, I'm
only drinking water.  I also do at least 60 minutes of cardio daily and lift
weights daily.  I've lost 43 pounds since early August.  I still have 77 to go!
After the first couple weeks, weight loss with low carb slows down, but should
remain steady if you stick with it!

So, you may find that you are actually eating many more carbs than you think if
you actually track things in Fitday and weigh and measure everything you eat.

Good luck -
Jennifer
273 (all time high)/260(8/4/03)/217.5/140
LJ - 07 Mar 2004 22:18 GMT
> Exercise more.
>
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> Don't blame low carbing and stalling, you have to do more activity. Fat
> doesn't burn off sitting on your a.s.

If you'll read my post you will see that I am walking 2 miles daily. I'm not
sitting on my a.s!
Mike - 08 Mar 2004 04:11 GMT
Ah, so ya did.

Ok, how about trying to eliminate all that EMPTY calories your eating with
the LC ice cream and other crap snacks.

"Breyers LC ice cream, Diet Rite, for a treat: carborite peanut M&M"

Just cause they are LC doesn't mean they are any better for you.

Calories are calories, so reduce them or at least replace them with GOOD
calories.

And you could take my previous advice, though I am not sure this part sunk
in...  "It's only walking. If you want to IMPROVE more, RUN for a minute and
walk two, repeat."

Good luck with the weight loss.

Whatever you do is don't give it up, if you can't stay on LC your f.cked.
It's one of the easiest WOE lifestyles out there. Hang in there or you'll
feel the fat the rest of your life.

Have a good one.

Mike

> > Exercise more.
> >
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> If you'll read my post you will see that I am walking 2 miles daily. I'm not
> sitting on my a.s!
Chet Hayes - 08 Mar 2004 12:43 GMT
I agree.  Anyone that has stalled for 5 weeks should be eliminating
all the products that might cause problems.  In this case, I'd
discontinue products with sugar alcohols, which in this case are the
ice cream and candy.  Even though you tried that for 2 weeks and it
didn't matter, I sure wouldn't be adding them back at this point.  And
are you sure how much you actually ate of these?  With things like
candy, it's very easy to eat a lot more than the skimpy portion size
that's used for the net carb count.

Are you consuming any products with aspartame?  Atkins said that can
inhibit weight loss in some people too.
Ignoramus10668 - 08 Mar 2004 13:24 GMT
> Ah, so ya did.
>
> Ok, how about trying to eliminate all that EMPTY calories your eating with
> the LC ice cream and other crap snacks.
>
> "Breyers LC ice cream, Diet Rite, for a treat: carborite peanut M&M"

So, here's another junk food abuser who wonders why low carbing does
not work.

Again: junk food is junk food. Low carb labeled junk food is still junk
food (and is not even low carb).

Iadvise you to stop abusing it at once.

i

> Just cause they are LC doesn't mean they are any better for you.
>
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> not
>> sitting on my a.s!
LJ - 08 Mar 2004 16:57 GMT
> > Ah, so ya did.
> >
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> >
> > Mike

Geez, you guys take stuff to the extreme! I am in no way abusing the junk
food! Those are ocassional snacks, not meal replacements! and as snacks, I
totally quit them for 2 weeks---guess I will again---but, I was wondering
why nothing has spurred on the weight loss. OTOH, I've got the maintenance
part down!
Ignoramus5605 - 07 Mar 2004 21:37 GMT
> I've ben LC since mid January. I lost 15# within the first week. Thelast 5
> weeks, I've lost nothing. I kept my carbs low under 25 the whole time. I
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> sugar cravings are gone and I dont want to go back to having them. ANy
> suggestions?

How tall are you and what is your current weight and age. How much
exactly are you eating per day.

Just not gaining weight is a good thing, as well.

If you "give up", you will regain your 15 lost pounds.

i
 
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