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Great weapon against sweet food cravings

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Denis Morissette - 08 Mar 2004 00:08 GMT
When I feel like having cookies, pies, chocolate, etc., I open a
container of Smucker's Fruit Spread (either Orange or Strawberry). It
is made of fruit and concentrated grape juice, and has no sugar added
in it. Each table spoon contains only 20 calories. Seven table spoons
are usually enought, even though I sometimes eat the whole bottle!
Note: No, I don't work for the Smucker's company!
tcmedara - 08 Mar 2004 00:26 GMT
> When I feel like having cookies, pies, chocolate, etc., I open a
> container of Smucker's Fruit Spread (either Orange or Strawberry). It
> is made of fruit and concentrated grape juice, and has no sugar added
> in it. Each table spoon contains only 20 calories. Seven table spoons
> are usually enought, even though I sometimes eat the whole bottle!
> Note: No, I don't work for the Smucker's company!

That comes out to 140 calories per 7 Tbsp.  Most of that probably from the
fructose in the fruit and grape juice -- in other words carbohydrate.  Not
much need to add sugar if there's already enough there, right? You may as
well have a slice of pie or a couple of cookies, as it will be about the
same.  Though there may actually be some fat in the pie crust or the cookie
ingredients.  If it makes you happy do it, but it's not so much a "weapon
against sweet food cravings" as it is giving in to sweet food cravings.

Nuts, cheese, heck even a piece of fruit are some alternate "weapons" that
may fit better into a LC eating plan.

Tom (just doin' the math)
Luna - 08 Mar 2004 00:39 GMT
> > When I feel like having cookies, pies, chocolate, etc., I open a
> > container of Smucker's Fruit Spread (either Orange or Strawberry). It
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>
> Tom (just doin' the math)

Sometimes (ok I know this is weird) when I have sweet cravings I floss,
brush my teeth, and use a strong minty mouthwash.  I get a lingering
pepperminty taste, and my mouth feels so clean and fresh I don't want to
eat _anything_ and mess it up.

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Marsha - 08 Mar 2004 00:51 GMT
>>>When I feel like having cookies, pies, chocolate, etc., I open a
>>>container of Smucker's Fruit Spread (either Orange or Strawberry). It
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> pepperminty taste, and my mouth feels so clean and fresh I don't want to
> eat _anything_ and mess it up.

Not weird at all.  Clean teeth..don't wanna get 'em dirty.

Marsha/Ohio
Jean M. - 08 Mar 2004 03:52 GMT
>Sometimes (ok I know this is weird) when I have sweet cravings I floss,
>brush my teeth, and use a strong minty mouthwash.  I get a lingering
>pepperminty taste, and my mouth feels so clean and fresh I don't want to
>eat _anything_ and mess it up.

I do the same thing if I need to stop eating for the day. Something
about having to floss again keeps me away from the food.
PJx - 08 Mar 2004 12:57 GMT
>>Sometimes (ok I know this is weird) when I have sweet cravings I floss,
>>brush my teeth, and use a strong minty mouthwash.  I get a lingering
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>I do the same thing if I need to stop eating for the day. Something
>about having to floss again keeps me away from the food.

And I thought I was unique.  Several times a week, I stop in my
tracks and say to myself:  "I can't eat anything now because I just
brushed my teeth."
PJ
Jean M. - 08 Mar 2004 14:56 GMT
>>>Sometimes (ok I know this is weird) when I have sweet cravings I floss,
>>>brush my teeth, and use a strong minty mouthwash.  I get a lingering
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>brushed my teeth."
>PJ

Remember when life was simple and we didn't have to think about such
things?
Marcusj - 08 Mar 2004 00:37 GMT
If you're talking about Smucker's Light Sugar Free preserves, they have 5
carbs per tablespoon.
Info is here, click on flavors for nutrition info:
http://www.smuckers.com/fg/pds/default.asp?groupid=1&catid=18

> When I feel like having cookies, pies, chocolate, etc., I open a
> container of Smucker's Fruit Spread (either Orange or Strawberry). It
> is made of fruit and concentrated grape juice, and has no sugar added
> in it. Each table spoon contains only 20 calories. Seven table spoons
> are usually enought, even though I sometimes eat the whole bottle!
> Note: No, I don't work for the Smucker's company!
Saffire - 08 Mar 2004 23:22 GMT
> If you're talking about Smucker's Light Sugar Free preserves, they have 5
> carbs per tablespoon.
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> > are usually enought, even though I sometimes eat the whole bottle!
> > Note: No, I don't work for the Smucker's company!

I really like Steel's strawberry jam (made withe Splenda).  The first time I got
it it was called "jam", but the last time I bought it it was called "fruit
spread".  I got them at Netrition.com.  1 Tbl has 6 calories and 1.5 carbs.  

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The Queen of Cans and Jars - 08 Mar 2004 01:02 GMT
> When I feel like having cookies, pies, chocolate, etc., I open a
> container of Smucker's Fruit Spread (either Orange or Strawberry). It
> is made of fruit and concentrated grape juice, and has no sugar added
> in it. Each table spoon contains only 20 calories. Seven table spoons
> are usually enought, even though I sometimes eat the whole bottle!
> Note: No, I don't work for the Smucker's company!

so basically what you're saying is that when you want something sweet,
you eat something sweet?  that's a corker of a solution.
Chet Hayes - 08 Mar 2004 12:46 GMT
> > When I feel like having cookies, pies, chocolate, etc., I open a
> > container of Smucker's Fruit Spread (either Orange or Strawberry). It
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> so basically what you're saying is that when you want something sweet,
> you eat something sweet?  that's a corker of a solution.

I hope this post was a joke, or else the OP better read an Atkins book ASAP.
The Queen of Cans and Jars - 08 Mar 2004 15:09 GMT
> > > When I feel like having cookies, pies, chocolate, etc., I open a
> > > container of Smucker's Fruit Spread (either Orange or Strawberry). It
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>
> I hope this post was a joke, or else the OP better read an Atkins book ASAP.

it'll be fine.  there's no sugar added, so it's all ok!!!1!
Denis Morissette - 08 Mar 2004 23:00 GMT
> > > > When I feel like having cookies, pies, chocolate, etc., I open a
> > > > container of Smucker's Fruit Spread (either Orange or Strawberry). It
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>
> it'll be fine.  there's no sugar added, so it's all ok!!!1!

The point of my post is that sugar is one of the -if not THE-
ingredients that is the best at making you gain weight. Fructose does
not have that much an effect. Eating this spread is like eating
fruits, but it is so much better than the fruit itself. You will
rarely find good oranges, and strawberries are so expensive.
Luna - 08 Mar 2004 23:57 GMT
> > > > > When I feel like having cookies, pies, chocolate, etc., I open a
> > > > > container of Smucker's Fruit Spread (either Orange or Strawberry). It
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> fruits, but it is so much better than the fruit itself. You will
> rarely find good oranges, and strawberries are so expensive.

I don't think stuff like that is better than the fruit itself, because it
takes a lot of fruit to make a spread so you're getting way more sugar
(even if it's natural sugar) than you would get if you ate a piece of
fruit.

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Denis Morissette - 09 Mar 2004 03:59 GMT
> > > > > > When I feel like having cookies, pies, chocolate, etc., I open a
> > > > > > container of Smucker's Fruit Spread (either Orange or Strawberry). It
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> (even if it's natural sugar) than you would get if you ate a piece of
> fruit.

I agree with you. I don't eat that stuff every day, though. Maybe
twice or three times a week. Since I gave junk food, I need it less
and less. But at times, I can't resist. So instead of grabing junk
food full of sugar or/and white flour, I take "concentrated fruit".

Denis
JC Der Koenig - 09 Mar 2004 04:03 GMT
Concentrated fruit is not low carb.

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> > > > > > > When I feel like having cookies, pies, chocolate, etc., I open a
> > > > > > > container of Smucker's Fruit Spread (either Orange or Strawberry). It
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>
> Denis
tcmedara - 09 Mar 2004 04:20 GMT
> I agree with you. I don't eat that stuff every day, though. Maybe
> twice or three times a week. Since I gave junk food, I need it less
> and less. But at times, I can't resist. So instead of grabing junk
> food full of sugar or/and white flour, I take "concentrated fruit".
>
> Denis

Denis....seriously, your "concentrated fruit" is, in fact, nearly all sugar.
There's no "instead."  Call it fruit, call it junk, call it whatever ...
you're downing concentrated amounts of fructose.  Sugar.  Fructose is sugar.
Pure, unadulterated carbohydrate.  You haven't given up junk food, you
appear to have found another kind of junk food that you can rationalize as
"fruit".  If you've gotta have something, at least have the real fruit.
That at least has fiber to go with the fructose.

Eating preserves to avoid sweets is like eating peanut butter to avoid
peanuts.

Tom.
John S - 09 Mar 2004 07:59 GMT
> > > > > > > When I feel like having cookies, pies, chocolate, etc., I open a
> > > > > > > container of Smucker's Fruit Spread (either Orange or Strawberry). It
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>
> Denis

Fibre? A good reason to have whole fruit. More filling and higher on the
Saiety index

John S
Cailleachschilde - 09 Mar 2004 02:24 GMT
>The point of my post is that sugar is one of the -if not THE-
>ingredients that is the best at making you gain weight. Fructose does
>not have that much an effect.

Fructose IS sugar.  Sugar IS carbs.

>Eating this spread is like eating
>fruits, but it is so much better than the fruit itself. You will
>rarely find good oranges, and strawberries are so expensive.

At least with fruit, you'll also have fiber.  

Yvonne
Crafting Mom - 09 Mar 2004 02:46 GMT
>>The point of my post is that sugar is one of the -if not THE-
>>ingredients that is the best at making you gain weight. Fructose does
>>not have that much an effect.
>
> Fructose IS sugar.  Sugar IS carbs.

And speaking for myself, fructose *that* concentrated is more
craving-inducing than a square of Lindt chocolate with sugar in it!
(Which I enjoy from time to time at a cost of 18 carbohydrate grams)

>>Eating this spread is like eating
>>fruits, but it is so much better than the fruit itself. You will
>>rarely find good oranges, and strawberries are so expensive.
>
> At least with fruit, you'll also have fiber.

And a real few sections of orange, for example, contains FAR LESS
fructose than the 10 tablespoons of "fruit spread" that was raved
about in the original post.

CM
The Queen of Cans and Jars - 09 Mar 2004 02:28 GMT
> > > > > When I feel like having cookies, pies, chocolate, etc., I open a
> > > > > container of Smucker's Fruit Spread (either Orange or Strawberry). It
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> not have that much an effect. Eating this spread is like eating
> fruits, but it is so much better than the fruit itself.

dude, you're EATING SUGAR.  you really need to face up to that fact.
Crafting Mom - 09 Mar 2004 02:52 GMT
> Fructose does
> not have that much an effect.

Wanna bet?  All bodies are different.

> Eating this spread is like eating
> fruits,

So is um, eating fruits.

> but it is so much better than the fruit itself.

A piece of fresh fruit, or an overprocessed, canned serving of
what amounts to *preserves*, I don't think so.  I'll take the less
bastardized and adulterated piece of FRUIT, TYVM :)

> You will  
> rarely find good oranges, and strawberries are so expensive.

I get a 600g tub of frozen, unsweetened, wild blueberries for
under $4 a tub.  I get good navel oranges that I give to my kids
regularly.  One or two sections is like a piece of heaven to me.
The only difference between then and now is the frequency and
the amount of eating sweet things.

Concentrated fructose gives me a carb-rush so bad I have to lie
down, and I am spacy for hours.

CM
RRzVRR - 09 Mar 2004 12:32 GMT
> The point of my post is that sugar is one of the -if not THE-
> ingredients that is the best at making you gain weight. Fructose does
> not have that much an effect. Eating this spread is like eating
> fruits, but it is so much better than the fruit itself. You will
> rarely find good oranges, and strawberries are so expensive.

Actually for LC plans fructose is worse than other sugars since
fructose is more likely to be converted to liver glycogen than muscle
glycogen.  Remember its liver glycogen depletion that puts/keeps you
in ketosis.

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carla - 09 Mar 2004 12:50 GMT
> The point of my post is that sugar is one of the -if not THE-
> ingredients that is the best at making you gain weight. Fructose does
> not have that much an effect. Eating this spread is like eating
> fruits, but it is so much better than the fruit itself. You will
> rarely find good oranges, and strawberries are so expensive.

What do you mean by "better" than eating the fruit itself?  The fruit is
less calorie-dense, less sugar-dense, has some fiber, and probably has more
vitamins than preserves which have been cooked for hours upon hours.  Also
it has the psychological effect of feeling like you are eating something,
unlike a spoonful (or seven spoonfuls) of preserves, which offer no crunch
or resistance or anything but sweet, sugary flavor.

You can go ahead and eat plain jam if you want to, but I don't think you'll
find much support for the idea that it's a favorable choice for someone on a
low-carb plan.

carla
jamie - 08 Mar 2004 21:05 GMT
> When I feel like having cookies, pies, chocolate, etc., I open a
> container of Smucker's Fruit Spread (either Orange or Strawberry). It
> is made of fruit and concentrated grape juice, and has no sugar added
> in it. Each table spoon contains only 20 calories. Seven table spoons
> are usually enought, even though I sometimes eat the whole bottle!
> Note: No, I don't work for the Smucker's company!

That stuff is 5g carb per tablespoon.  It may have no "added" sugar,
but it's still mostly fructose.

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