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Weight Loss Forum / Low Carb / March 2004OT: Cosmetic surgery NG?
I have been a reasonable size & weight for a while now & am thinking about having a mini-tuck to get rid of the last of the stretch-marks and belly flab. I might be able to get rid of more of the belly flab via diet & exercise, but I am happy with my *overall* condition & afraid that if I take my bodyfat down much lower I will lose my boobs & look emaciated by the time the last bits of flab leave my belly. I know I am being perfectionist & probably pretty shallow and vain, but I wondering if anyone knows of a forum/newsgroup where I could talk to people who have had this procedure so I can start to form an INFORMED opinion as to whether the expense/risk are worth it? Thanks:)Robyn People have died from that kind of surgery. HTH  SignatureMost of us probably aren't in danger of eating too little. :) Becky P. > I have been a reasonable size & weight for a while now & am thinking about > having a mini-tuck to get rid of the last of the stretch-marks and belly flab. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Thanks:)Robyn >People have died from that kind of surgery. > >HTH People have died getting out of the bathtub, but that doesn't mean that we should stop taking baths. -- Emil >From: "JC Der Koenig" jcderkoenig@ibm.com >Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2004 03:14:20 GMT > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] >> >> Thanks:)Robyn Gee thanks, how much did my boyfreind pay you for that<G>? And people die driving to work every day, but I still have to earn a living. All kidding aside, I am open to the possibilty that I am being vain & shallow, but I do want to learn a little bit more about the *actual* risks involved. I do realize that at my age (I have kids in their 20s) looking like the Victoria's Secrets models is not a realistic goal, but at the same time, I have been lifting heavy and eating light long enough to have acheived some pretty major body recompisition so I feel as if I have to see if I can take it that final step:)Robyn And I just realized that my spell checker was turned off:( >I do realize that at my age (I have kids in their 20s) looking like the >Victoria's Secrets models is not a realistic goal, but at the same time, I >have >been lifting heavy and eating light long enough to have acheived some pretty >major body recompisition so I feel as if I have to see if I can take it that >final step:)Robyn Ask an actuary. SignatureMost of us probably aren't in danger of eating too little. :) Becky P. > >From: "JC Der Koenig" jcderkoenig@ibm.com > [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > major body recompisition so I feel as if I have to see if I can take it that > final step:)Robyn JC Der Koenig burbled across the ether: >>> From: "JC Der Koenig" jcderkoenig@ibm.com >>> Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2004 03:14:20 GMT >>>> I have been a reasonable size & weight for a while now & am >>>> thinking about having a mini-tuck to get rid of the last of the >>>> stretch-marks and belly flab. <snip> >>> People have died from that kind of surgery. >>> >>> HTH >> Gee thanks, how much did my boyfreind pay you for that<G>? >> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >> have acheived some pretty major body recompisition so I feel as if I >> have to see if I can take it that final step:)Robyn > Ask an actuary. Not really necessary. Anybody with two brain cells can see that there is always a risk of death with *any* surgery. Signaturerevek www.geocities.com/tanirevek/LowCarb.html lowcarbing since June 2002 5'2" 41 F 165+/too much/size seven petite please Edmund: It is said, Percy, that civilized man seeks out good and intelligent company, so that, through learned discourse, he may rise above the savage and closer to God. Percy: Yes, I've heard that. Edmund: Personally, however, I like to start the day with a total dickhead to remind me I'm best. -Black Adder II, "Beer" > JC Der Koenig burbled across the ether: > >>> From: "JC Der Koenig" jcderkoenig@ibm.com [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > Not really necessary. Anybody with two brain cells can see that there > is always a risk of death with *any* surgery. But she stated she's looking for "actual" calculated risks. JC Der Koenig burbled across the ether: > But she stated she's looking for "actual" calculated risks. Cute. She stated "actual". http://www.smarttummytucks.com/risks.html Calculated is your interpretation. Signaturerevek www.geocities.com/tanirevek/LowCarb.html lowcarbing since June 2002 5'2" 41 F 165+/too much/size seven petite please Today's subliminal thought is: > http://www.smarttummytucks.com/risks.html "Belly button death?" Does anyone know what that means? carla >> http://www.smarttummytucks.com/risks.html >> >"Belly button death?" Does anyone know what that means? > >carla I've never heard the term. I wonder if it refers to losing the belly button when they pull everything up and cut it off. They make a new one for ya. Robyn Rosenthal burbled across the ether: > I have been a reasonable size & weight for a while now & am thinking > about having a mini-tuck to get rid of the last of the stretch-marks [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Thanks:)Robyn Don't know of any usenet groups (sci.med.plasticsurgery failed to get enough votes), but here's some general cosmetic surgery web based forums: http://www.cosmeticsurgeryforum.info/ http://www.healthboards.com/boards/forumdisplay.phps=883de462e111e5ef6fe7c26efcd eb042&f=40 http://cosmeticsupport.com/webbbs2/config.pl and some chats: http://www.yestheyrefake.net/plastic_surgery_chat.htm http://cosmeticsupport.com/chat.html http://www.obesityhelp.com/morbidobesity/plasticsurgery/chatsched.html Signaturerevek www.geocities.com/tanirevek/LowCarb.html lowcarbing since June 2002 5'2" 41 F 165+/too much/size seven petite please A day without sun shine is like, you know, night. >From: "revek" pphillps1962@hotmail.com Don't know of any usenet groups (sci.med.plasticsurgery failed to get >enough votes), but here's some general cosmetic surgery web based >forums: [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >http://cosmeticsupport.com/chat.html >http://www.obesityhelp.com/morbidobesity/plasticsurgery/chatsched.html Thanks:)Robyn >I have been a reasonable size & weight for a while now & am thinking about >having a mini-tuck to get rid of the last of the stretch-marks and belly flab. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >Thanks:)Robyn I did post-op care on quite a few tummy tucks. These were the full kind and it was 20 years ago. All of the women were happy with the surgery, but there was quite a bit of post-op pain. If I had the money, I'd be lifting a tucking a few things, too. Even knowing the risks. I hope you find some groups. "Robyn Rosenthal" <cotongrmr@aol.com> wrote in message > wondering if anyone knows of a forum/newsgroup where I could talk to people who > have had this procedure so I can start to form an INFORMED opinion as to > whether the expense/risk are worth it? Robyn: I don't know of any newsgroups.. but this site has some information you might find helpful. http://www.plastic-surgeon.org/abdosurg.html http://www.plasticsurgery.ca/abdominoplasty.htm I know 3 people that have this done. One is from Canada and her insurance paid for it. She was down 200lbs. She looks good and feels great. No complications. She does not have a belly button now, as national health coverage will not cover that. So she decided not to have one,<G>, said it was not worth the money at her age. One of the other people I know is a cousin. She had triplets and then reduced her below her pre-pregnancy weight. She ran into all kinds of complications, including 2 more surgeries and still have what they call an open wound. It has been almost a year and she is unable to return to work. (she is a R.N.) One of her surgeries was an emergency and she came close to not making it as she was so full of infection. The last person I know, is in the process of getting insurance to pay for it. Abdominoplasty appears to be one of those surgeries, that if everything goes as planned, wonderful.. but ... and the but is a big one if it does not go as planned. Cheryl >From: "Nicholson's" noshohcin1_REMOVE_@hotmail.com >"Robyn Rosenthal" <cotongrmr@aol.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > >Cheryl Thanks. It sounds as if the risks might be more than it is worth to have a bikini-worthy belly:( I think I will just procrastinate deciding for another year or so & maybe the last of the flab and stretchmarks will have left on their own by then:)Robyn Robyn Rosenthal burbled across the ether: > Thanks. It sounds as if the risks might be more than it is worth to > have a bikini-worthy belly:( > > I think I will just procrastinate deciding for another year or so & > maybe the last of the flab and stretchmarks will have left on their > own by then:)Robyn Have you googled on Icrazyhorsei and copper peptides? She swears it worked for her. Signaturerevek www.geocities.com/tanirevek/LowCarb.html lowcarbing since June 2002 5'2" 41 F 165+/too much/size seven petite please Never do anything that you wouldn't want to explain to the paramedics. >From: "revek" pphillps1962@hotmail.com >Robyn Rosenthal burbled across the ether: >> Thanks. It sounds as if the risks might be more than it is worth to [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >Have you googled on Icrazyhorsei and copper peptides? She swears it >worked for her. Yep, her suggestions are what got me as far as I am now. I had stretchmarks and loose skin that I got when I went from 80ish pounds to 160+ when I was pregnant with my son. My son is 25 now & those stretchmarks were a dark, purplish red until I started LCing. About 3 months into eating low carb, the stretchmarks started fading a little and the worst of the wrinkles started tightening up a little. The skinbiology products that c recommended took the stretchmarks down to a barely visible white and the several inches of saggy, wrinkly skin down to where I can just barely "pinch an inch." I really shouldm't complain so about my belly skin -- LC has made it so much better that cosmetic surgery really is vanity, not corrective at this point:)Robyn > Thanks. It sounds as if the risks might be more than it is worth to have a > bikini-worthy belly:( > > I think I will just procrastinate deciding for another year or so & maybe the > last of the flab and stretchmarks will have left on their own by then:)Robyn Ah Robyn.... maybe in another year, you will not even need to be thinking about it. Sounds like you have done an exceptional job at gettting to where you are now. Personally, I have more than an inch to pinch... more like 5-6 and would LOVE to have my tummy tucked (or at least rolled and pinned) but after seeing what our cousin had endured,,, guess I'll just keep wearing these tight jeans to hold things together. :) Now,, my under chin... that might actually happen someday! <G> cheryl >From: "Nicholson's" noshohcin1_REMOVE_@hotmail.com . Personally, I have more than an inch to pinch... more like 5-6 >and would LOVE to have my tummy tucked (or at least rolled and pinned) but >after seeing what our cousin had endured,,, guess I'll just keep wearing [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >cheryl Cheryl, I don;t know how long you have been LCing, but I really think that what made the difference for me was real food, good fats and lots of water. I was anorexic as a teenager and was very thin (but with no muscle at all) until I developed an endocrine imbalance that caused me to gain 40 pounds in 11 months. And then I gained another 25+ pounds over then next several years while doing tons of "fat-burning cardio" and eating lowfat. I really think that most of my health/skin problems were if not caused, at least made much worse by an AWFUL diet. I lived on whole grain breads and pastas and fruit because "fat is bad" and "Americans eat too much protein." If you had asked me two years ago, I would have said that I never ate "sweets," but I was drinking carrot/apple juice (fresh squeezed organic) every morning, snacking on baby carrots and fruits and "healthy" air-popped popcorn and pasta. My typical quick & easy after work dinner would be to boil up some whole grain pasta & toss in frozen mixed veggies (corn, carrots, peas, lima beans & green beans). As best I can tell, my diet was about 80% carbs, 10% fat, 10% proteins. No wonder my skin looked so awful. Anyway, I nver thought my skin would improve, but LC did it so you never know:)Robyn |
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