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Kaye - 08 Mar 2004 10:02 GMT
Howdy

So tomorrow, I'm starting a new job and I know that it will be a lot less
physical than the role that I am currently in.

Yup, it's way overdue time that I start propper exercise.  I was wondering,
how do you motivate yourself.  I'm about as lazy as the next person, perhaps
more so.  I just want some help on how to get myself out of the chair and
running about using up some energy.

Having someoene come round with a stick would be ideal, but I'm not sure
that I can afford to pay someone to do that.

Help!

Kaye
KKG - 08 Mar 2004 12:20 GMT
Going out and exercising is hard to do, I have a hard time doing that also, When the weather is nice i walk for 2 miles
before i go to work, my job is not that physical either, so walking before work is good if you have a good schedule.
That is my suggestion for exercising.
Karen
lc since aug 03 lost 26 lbs. and working on loosing more.
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Anthony - 08 Mar 2004 12:34 GMT
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Diet and exercise are similar in that needs are individual, and it's
important to find what you will do.  I've had all manner of home exercise
equipment but really didn't have the self-discipline to use any of it
enough.  I need a class or trainer that I've paid for.  Before I retired I
had a job for which I left at about 6 each morning and got back from around
7; but I found an evening aerobic class that I went to 3 times a week:
worked for me.  You have to find out what works for you; you are obviously
motivated so I'm sure you can do it.  Good luck!!
PJx - 08 Mar 2004 12:39 GMT
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Sounds like you are looking for a trick that helps motivate.  Here is
mine.
 I have a dailiy meeting in the raw with that person in my full
length mirror.   I ask that person if a little exercise is necessary
that day.  The answer, after sucking in my gut and doing a quick
profile shot,  is nearly always yes.  I then do as many large muscle
exercises as possible right there with that person watching me.
Partial knee bends like getting out of a chair requires.  Nothing
fancy.  Then just lifting each leg as high as possible and holding .
You may do more but it doesn't take long to really get painful.

Yesterday, I was huffing and puffing, but it felt so good that I
migrated to the fireplace and did 12 inch stair steps on the fireplace
brick  until my legs were like jelly.  A little sore today, but that
naked person will probably have me trying to work the soreness when we
meet later today.  I nearly always go thru most of the phys ed
exercises I learned in grade school.  

Notice that no gym is necessary.  Outdoor weather is not relevent or
available for an excuse.  Also those stair step exercises on the
fireplace brick are really my journey  down and up the trail  to
copper mine canyon at the grand canyon park.  And that rowing machine
is really me crossing the most beautiful alaskan lake in a canoe.
Joan J. - 08 Mar 2004 13:04 GMT
Kaye,

I started Atkins 01/24/04, and "exercise" was a dirty word to me. I swore I
hated all exercise, BUT I understood if the diet was to work, "exercise is
not an option"...

At the beginning, I convinced myself that I can do ANYTHING for 5 minutes.
So I got an exercise video from the public library and set a timer for 5
minutes, and did what I could. It quickly rose to 10 mins, then 15, then,
within two weeks, to 30 minutes, 6 days a week. Right now, 6 weeks later,
I'm up to 45 minutes on the treadmill (now working on increasing speed
rather than time) 3 days a week, and 30 minutes of free weights 3 days a
week, with Sunday off. If I have a really busy day, I may break the exercise
down into 15 minute segments, 2 or 3 times a day.

Start slow. Get yourself a timer. Try just FIVE minutes of an exercise you
know you can do -- it can be walking up and down stairs, walking outside
during your lunch hour, exercising to a video, or whatever you're most
comfortable with. Pretty soon your body will be telling you it would like to
do 10 minutes! And off you go...

Right now, if I miss a day of exercising, my body tells me! It's pretty cool
actually!

Hope this helps!
Joan J

Atkins since 01/24/04
250/224/???

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Cubit - 08 Mar 2004 17:06 GMT
> Kaye,
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> I started Atkins 01/24/04, and "exercise" was a dirty word to me. I swore I
> hated all exercise, BUT I understood if the diet was to work, "exercise is
> not an option"...

Exercise is not needed to lose weight.   It is, indeed, only "an option" for
those who want it.

Running on a treadmill or bouncing with jumping jacks is insane.  Exercise
should only be part of a legitimate activity.  If you want, go golfing or
bowling.  Join a Volleyball team.  Help a friend move.

Exercise often injures people.  This is especially true for very large
people.  Don't waste yourself.

Watching TV burns calories too, just not as many.

Cubit
Ignoramus10668 - 08 Mar 2004 13:21 GMT
You do not have to be motivated to exercise, any more than you have to
be motivated to brush your teeth. You just have to exercise, motivated
or not.

I am not motivated to exercise and I am not motivated to brush my
teeth. And yet I do it. I like some exercise, but not much.

i
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Roger Zoul - 08 Mar 2004 13:56 GMT
:: You do not have to be motivated to exercise, any more than you have
:: to be motivated to brush your teeth. You just have to exercise,
:: motivated or not.
::
:: I am not motivated to exercise and I am not motivated to brush my
:: teeth. And yet I do it. I like some exercise, but not much.

You don't seem to understand the meaning of the word "motivated".
Ignoramus10668 - 08 Mar 2004 14:20 GMT
>:: You do not have to be motivated to exercise, any more than you have
>:: to be motivated to brush your teeth. You just have to exercise,
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> You don't seem to understand the meaning of the word "motivated".

I understand that people feel like exercising and sometimes they feel
like not exercising.

Try checking out the dictionary Roger... It helps sometimes...

Motivation is a  psychological feature that arouses an organism to
action; the reason for the action; "we did not understand his
motivation"; "he acted with the best of motives" . The OP seems to
already have a reason, that is, he knows that he should exercise.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=motivation

What he is lacking, therefore, is "psychological arousal".What I am
telling him is that he does not need to be in that state of
psychological arousal, all he need is getting his a.s out of the
chair.

i
Roger Zoul - 08 Mar 2004 15:12 GMT
:: In article <c2htud$1dbcrl$1@ID-166706.news.uni-berlin.de>, Roger
:: Zoul wrote:
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:: psychological arousal, all he need is getting his a.s out of the
:: chair.

What nonsense. Why would he need to you too tell him he doesn't need
"psychological arousal?" Do you think that makes jacks worth of difference?

My point is simply this: if you exercise, you are motivated to do it.  It
doesn't matter jack if sometimes you don't feel like it or not. If it gets
done, then you have all the "psychological arousal" needed.  Nothing alive
on this planet does anything without motivation.  Nothing.

Where I do agree with you is that the OP need not look for a magic trick to
want to exercise. It doesn't exist.  In the end, the OP will certainly just
have to do it.  And at that point, the OP will be motivated.  Until that
time, the OP is not motivated.  You say the OP already has a reason, I say
the OP has not accepted that reason -- hence, to the OP, it is not a reason.
Hence, the OP does not exercise.

BTW, I did check the dictionary.
Ignoramus10668 - 08 Mar 2004 15:26 GMT
>:: In article <c2htud$1dbcrl$1@ID-166706.news.uni-berlin.de>, Roger
>:: Zoul wrote:
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> What nonsense. Why would he need to you too tell him he doesn't need
> "psychological arousal?"

Um, he asked a question, I can only assume he wanted some answers.

If you are suggesting that he needs to wait or do something until he
goes into a state of psychological arousal, instead of getting his a.s
out of the chair and exercising, then Ianswer that he may wait
forever, or for too long, at least.

> Do you think that makes jacks worth of difference?
>
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> needed.  Nothing alive on this planet does anything without
> motivation.  Nothing.

Let's consider my example of brushing teeth (I assume you still have
them). how much arousal do you have to motivate you to brush your
teeth? Do you approach the sink with excitement, do you feel
trepidation when you pick up your toothbrush, are you proud of a
toothbrushing job well done? Or do you perhaps just do it because you
know you have to?

Exercise is not very different. It is nice though, to pick exercise
that one enjoys or execise that is palatable. Just as it is nice to
have pleasant toothpaste and a convenient brush.  success depends on
whether you can keep doing it even when you do not feel like it.

> Where I do agree with you is that the OP need not look for a magic trick to
> want to exercise. It doesn't exist.  In the end, the OP will certainly just
> have to do it.  And at that point, the OP will be motivated.  Until that
> time, the OP is not motivated.  You say the OP already has a reason, I say
> the OP has not accepted that reason -- hence, to the OP, it is not a reason.
> Hence, the OP does not exercise.

If he has a reason to exercise, and does not exercise, then it is
simply irrational behavior.

i

> BTW, I did check the dictionary.
Roger Zoul - 08 Mar 2004 16:32 GMT
:: In article <c2i2cj$1spu06$1@ID-166706.news.uni-berlin.de>, Roger
:: Zoul wrote:
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:: Um, he asked a question, I can only assume he wanted some answers.

You answer was the doesn't need motivation, just do it.  My comment was that
if she does it, she is motivated. Period.

:: If you are suggesting that he needs to wait or do something until he
:: goes into a state of psychological arousal, instead of getting his
:: a.s
:: out of the chair and exercising, then Ianswer that he may wait
:: forever, or for too long, at least.

Not at all....why in the hell would one bring the term "psychological
arousal" into the discussion. Useless, imo.  That's simply a means of
describing what motivation is, not why people do things.

::: Do you think that makes jacks worth of difference?
:::
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:: them). how much arousal do you have to motivate you to brush your
:: teeth?

Plenty.

:: Do you approach the sink with excitement,

Don't need excitement. Arousal need to imply excitement...walking to the
sink first thing in the morning is a "to stir up" activity.  I wish to not
be gross and to protect my teeth.  Hence, I brush.

:: do you feel
:: trepidation when you pick up your toothbrush,

It's a pain in the butt, but I'd rather do it than not.

:: are you proud of a
:: toothbrushing job well done?

Hmm...

:: Or do you perhaps just do it because you
:: know you have to?

I don't have to.  I choose to.  I brush only because I'm motivated to do so.
If it had absolutely no benefit to me in any way, I would not bother with
it.  Just because I don't like it doesn't mean I have no motivation to do
it. Hence, I am "psychologically aroused" each morning (and more than that,
too) to brush.

:: Exercise is not very different. It is nice though, to pick exercise
:: that one enjoys or execise that is palatable. Just as it is nice to
:: have pleasant toothpaste and a convenient brush.  success depends on
:: whether you can keep doing it even when you do not feel like it.

Now we're talking about success?  The OP simply has to realize the benefits
of exercise and want to improve.  If neither of those happen, the OP won't
do it. Saying just do it to someone who doesn't truly want to won't help.

::: Where I do agree with you is that the OP need not look for a magic
::: trick to want to exercise. It doesn't exist.  In the end, the OP
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:: If he has a reason to exercise, and does not exercise, then it is
:: simply irrational behavior.

sh.t -- Ig....you're a friggin genius, dude. You just figured out that
people can be irrational.  I'm im-f.cking-pressed.

:: i
::
::: BTW, I did check the dictionary.
Cate - 10 Mar 2004 16:48 GMT
> Yup, it's way overdue time that I start propper exercise.  I was
> wondering, how do you motivate yourself.  I'm about as lazy as the
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> Having someoene come round with a stick would be ideal, but I'm not
> sure that I can afford to pay someone to do that.

Everybody's motivation and tolerance for exercise is different, so what
motivates me might not motivate you. I can tell you that doing exercise and
seeing results is usually in itself a motivation.

The thing I've found helpful lately is that I required a pedometer. I wear
it during all my waking hours. My daily goal is 10,000 steps, but I have to
build up to it, because I just started. Yesterday I managed 7700 by walking
the dog twice, walking him again for 2.5 miles, and just walking around my
house. I work from home and don't walk around much inside, but perhaps you
can find more ways just to walk around at your new job. Park far away from
the building. Don't take the elevator. Instead of using interoffice mail,
walk your deliveries to other offices yourself. If you have a daily goal of
x number of steps to take, it becomes almost a game to see what you can do
to add to your step total.

Good luck!

Cate
 
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