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Piedlourde - 09 Mar 2004 08:19 GMT

With great regret, I am now admitting that I can't handle peanuts. I went on
OWL recently and tonight my mom came home from a trip to South Carolina,
bringing with her a gift for me-- a burlap sack of salted-in-the-shell peanuts
(pretty hard to find around here) and a can of boiled peanuts. I was always a
big peanut lover, and she knows these are special treats for me. It was sort of
a "Congratulations, you've made it to OWL" thing, I guess.

So I experimented tonight, and had to force myself to stop after 10 or so
salted-in-the-shells. I could've gone on all night. Looks like peanuts are
something I just can't control.

So the sack goes to my dad. As for the can, I don't know anyone else who likes
boiled peanuts (they are too exotic up here in NYC), so I guess they're tossed.

But at least I realized it before I ate the whole sack!

On the up side, I've been doing wonderful things with ginger. I really can't
believe how much I like cooking for myself now. I used to HATE it. I think
because I couldn't control my appetite while I was cooking, so I had no
patience. Now I can prepare the ingredients without salivating, and get
creative. It's a revelation. this cooking thing. I bought a ginger root at the
supermarket the other day on a whim, and it is SO good stir-fried with chicken,
celery, onion and broccoli. Golly.

Piedlourde

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carla - 09 Mar 2004 12:19 GMT

> So I experimented tonight, and had to force myself to stop after 10 or so
> salted-in-the-shells. I could've gone on all night. Looks like peanuts are
> something I just can't control.
>
> So the sack goes to my dad. As for the can, I don't know anyone else who likes
> boiled peanuts (they are too exotic up here in NYC), so I guess they're tossed.

I don't understand - you stopped, didn't you? Ten peanuts doesn't seem like
all that many. Did you really feel that you couldn't have put the rest away
and had 10 more tomorrow? I guess if you did, then you did the right thing.
I hope you didn't just deprive yourself of a low-carb, real food that you
enjoy just because you were enjoying it though. You should give yourself
more of a chance than that!

carla

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Roger Zoul - 09 Mar 2004 14:16 GMT

::: So I experimented tonight, and had to force myself to stop after 10
::: or so salted-in-the-shells. I could've gone on all night. Looks
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:: were enjoying it though. You should give yourself more of a chance
:: than that!

While trying to lose weight, a little deprivation is not such a bad thing.
the OP can eat peanuts later. IMO, they are dangerous. The more you have
to use willpower to control eating them, the more reason to avoid them, IMO.

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Luna - 09 Mar 2004 16:06 GMT

> > So I experimented tonight, and had to force myself to stop after 10 or so
> > salted-in-the-shells. I could've gone on all night. Looks like peanuts are
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>
> carla

I am the same way with nuts. If I eat a serving, I want more. Doesn't
matter if I'm actually hungry or not. Of course I can make myself stop
eating them. But I don't like _wanting_ them either. If they're not
around me, or even if they are in the house but I don't start eating them,
then I don't have to fight that battle. Why torture myself?

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Piedlourde - 10 Mar 2004 06:34 GMT

Carla said:

<< I don't understand - you stopped, didn't you? Ten peanuts doesn't seem like
all that many. Did you really feel that you couldn't have put the rest away
and had 10 more tomorrow? I guess if you did, then you did the right thing.
I hope you didn't just deprive yourself of a low-carb, real food that you
enjoy just because you were enjoying it though. You should give yourself
more of a chance than that! >>

I think it triggered this "snacking" reflex that made me not want to stop. I
think I'm gonna put them down for awhile and try again later. Maybe I can do
that trick where you premeasure portions-- that might work for me.

They're just too good. I'm afraid I won't stop.

Piedlourde

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carla - 10 Mar 2004 12:18 GMT

> Carla said:
>
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>
> They're just too good. I'm afraid I won't stop.

Yeah, I understand that - I think my post came out bitchier than I intended;
sorry about that. I am sure you understand the feeling you have and it's
fine to respond to it by removing the peanuts from your environment even
though you were able to stop at ten peanuts. At any rate, you should be
congratulated for being able to stop at ten, considering the way they made
you feel!

carla

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Bear - 09 Mar 2004 14:20 GMT

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> I really can't
> believe how much I like cooking for myself now. I used to HATE it. I think
> because I couldn't control my appetite while I was cooking, so I had no
> patience.
>
> Piedlourde

This part of your post made me realize something about myself. I've always
enjoyed cooking for myself. One of the reasons I gained so much weight in
the 90's (I went from 185 to 353 over the span of about 6 years) was because
of cooking for myself. My partner died in 1991. I spent the next year in a
daze. I would go to work and bake or cook, come home and cook and then go to
bed. The problem was I was cooking at home for about 4 people and then
eating it all. Seriously. I would make huge quantities of mashed potatoes
and fried chicken, or pasta, whatever. It was pretty sad.
I continued this for years but in a bit more reasonable amounts. I now have
no problem cooking in reasonable quantities. When I have to cook just for
myself, its a steak and a salad. This WOE seems to have a built in quantity
check, for me at least.

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Piedlourde - 10 Mar 2004 06:36 GMT

Bear said:

<< I now have
no problem cooking in reasonable quantities. When I have to cook just for
myself, its a steak and a salad. This WOE seems to have a built in quantity
check, for me at least. >>

That's so great. It's really interesting to notice the little ways that this
WOE changes how we do things-- they really add up to big, life-changing stuff.

Piedlourde

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Marcusj - 09 Mar 2004 15:14 GMT

> With great regret, I am now admitting that I can't handle peanuts.

I have a hard time controlling amounts with nuts, and so does my wife.
The key for us was to not eat them out of the bag, jar, or whatever
container.
We always weigh out portions, and never eat even 1 nut without it being part
of a weighed portion.
A food that was previously a problem is now a great part of our WOE.

Mark.

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Laureen - 10 Mar 2004 03:29 GMT

> With great regret, I am now admitting that I can't handle peanuts. I went on
> OWL recently and tonight my mom came home from a trip to South Carolina,
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>
> Piedlourde

OMG! Did you get a rip roaring belly ache?? I cant do peanuts. My BIL
is from Georgia and they brought back boiled peanuts and a big collard
greens, If I remember correctly the green had been cooked til limp in
bacon grease! BLECK ICK the peanut gets slimy too. I didnt like
either!!!!
Laureen

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Piedlourde - 10 Mar 2004 06:38 GMT

Laureen said:

<<
OMG! Did you get a rip roaring belly ache?? I cant do peanuts. My BIL
is from Georgia and they brought back boiled peanuts and a big collard
greens, If I remember correctly the green had been cooked til limp in
bacon grease! BLECK ICK the peanut gets slimy too. I didnt like
either!!!! >>

Luckily I didn't eat enough for a bellyache-- 10 peanuts is way too little for
that. (Trouble is, it felt like "way too little", period!)

I agree that boiled peanuts are DEFINITELY an acquired taste. I don't know HOW
I acquired it-- I think I read a description in a book once.

(There are some books that just trigger insane cravings for me. I guess I'll
never read _The Joy Luck Club_ again. Which is fine, how many times do you have
to read that anyway?)

Piedlourde

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Cailleachschilde - 10 Mar 2004 10:26 GMT

>they brought back boiled peanuts and a big collard
>greens, If I remember correctly the green had been cooked til limp in
>bacon grease!

Collards are an acquired taste. I like mine cooked in chicken broth.

Yvonne

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Wayne Crannell - 12 Mar 2004 03:03 GMT

> With great regret, I am now admitting that I can't handle peanuts. I went on
> OWL recently and tonight my mom came home from a trip to South Carolina,
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>
> Piedlourde

I feel your pain. In the shell peanuts are really my ONLY problem. I
just don't buy them anymore. Something about the shelling process that
feeds the AR personality that is me.

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