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Weight Loss Forum / Low Carb / March 2004Pepsi's new offering for low-carb
Just saw this on the news. Pepsi Edge 50% less carbs Sweetened with Splenda and high fructose corn syrup. For the low-carb dieter who does not want to switch to diet soda. WTF? Lorraine - different one. It doesn't sound like they quite "get it" -- Tara www.dazzled.com/lowcarb - my homepage > Just saw this on the news. > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Lorraine > - different one. > It doesn't sound like they quite "get it" Soda pop is garbage no matter what they put in it, IMO. High fructose corn syrup is probably the #1 explanation for the so-called Obesity Epidemic. It goes right to the liver where it turns into triglycerides (i.e. body fat) without having the chance to be burned by the body like regular table sugar. Most people don't realize that before the 1980s soda and other snack foods were sweetened with sugar. The switch occurred partly for political reasons (Cuba being a big sugar producer). Europeans still use sugar and their rates of obesity are much lower than ours. -- Jenny - Low Carbing for 4 years. At goal for weight. Type 2 diabetes, hba1c 5.2. Cut the carbs to respond to my email address! Low carb facts and figures, my weight-loss photos, tips, recipes, strategies for dealing with diabetes and more at http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/ Looking for help controlling your blood sugar? Visit http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/Newly%20Diagnosed.htm > > It doesn't sound like they quite "get it" > > Soda pop is garbage no matter what they put in it, IMO. > High fructose corn syrup is probably the #1 explanation for the so-called > Obesity Epidemic. > > Europeans still use sugar and their rates of obesity are much lower than > ours. High fructose corn syrup is a little about 55% fructose, and the rest is mostly glucose. Table sugar is 50% fructose, and the rest is glucose. I don't think the switch caused the problem, I think the overuse of ANY sweetener caused the problem. >> High fructose corn syrup is probably the #1 explanation for the >> so-called [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > I don't think the switch caused the problem, I think the overuse of > ANY sweetener caused the problem. Yeah, but sugar at least needs to be split into fructose and glucose, which takes some amount of time. Plus, high fructose corn syrup finds its way into everything -- it's like partially hydrogenated oils in this regard; it's amazing when you find a food made WITHOUT it. I think the problem with it is that it's ubiquitous. Sugar's much more expensive, particularly in the US (Life Savers moved to Canada because the price of sugar in the US is artificially inflated).  SignatureBob in CT Remove ".x" to reply I think that years and years of the government's urging people to sit down to a plate piled with starch is what did it. Cookie > > High fructose corn syrup is probably the #1 explanation for the so-called > > Obesity Epidemic. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > I don't think the switch caused the problem, I think the overuse of > ANY sweetener caused the problem. > High fructose corn syrup is probably the #1 explanation for the so-called > Obesity Epidemic. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Europeans still use sugar and their rates of obesity are much lower than > ours. Very informative! No, I think they do get it. They know how gullible the consumer market is, and like so many others are taking advantage of that gullibility to make money. Mark. > It doesn't sound like they quite "get it" >Pepsi Edge >50% less carbs >Sweetened with Splenda and high fructose corn syrup. >For the low-carb dieter who does not want to switch to diet soda. > >WTF? I'm almost glad. As a former Pepsi addict, I don't need a suposedly "safe" Pepsi to come out. It can stay forbidden, and that's just fine with me. LCing since 12/01/03- Me- 265/223/140 & hubby- 310/244/180 > Just saw this on the news. > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Lorraine > - different one Duh. Just... duh. What I don't understand is why they don't do a diet soda with Splenda - like RC. Duh. SignatureNancy Howells (don't forget to switch it, and replace the ;) to send mail). }What I don't understand is why they don't do a diet soda with Splenda - }like RC. Duh. I thought about that and came to the conclusion Pepsi and Coke are afraid to hurt their main product lines. Think about it. The 2 main player's diet sodas have always tasted different than the 'real' thing (pardon the jingle <G>). With Splenda available, there is no reason why they can't produce a comparable tasting product. So the only conclusion is they don't want to create a product that competes with itself... :) I have yet to find RC with Splenda (here in the St. Louis market). We do have Diet Rite with Splenda which to me is way too sweet... Later, Dave my local wal mart which isn't a super center carries it. it's int he front of the store at the very end kind of hidden. > }What I don't understand is why they don't do a diet soda with Splenda - > }like RC. Duh. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Later, > Dave }my local wal mart which isn't a super center carries it. it's int he front }of the store at the very end kind of hidden. Not all Walmarts carry the same things but I will certainly look. Are you in the St. Louis area? Later, Dave >Sweetened with Splenda and high fructose corn syrup. oh yeah - high fructose corn syrup. yum. :o(. pam you've got to be kidding...that's REALLY bad (looking for the obligatory JC line : Pepsi is not low carb) > Just saw this on the news. > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Lorraine > - different one. >Just saw this on the news. > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >Lorraine >- different one. It is marketing and probably due to business contracts. I'm sure they are locked into using nutrisweet for a while. TO release an all-splenda would simply canabalize their current diet pepsi sales--little net gain. This is a compromise. For people who don't like nutrisweet or don't believe in diet foods--it is half way there using Splenda. Now if it were sweetened with sugar and not high-fructose syrup I would buy it instead of DIet-Rite. Always perferred pepsi. If successful it would start appearing in restaurants that have Pepsi contracts. DiGiTAL_ViNYL (no email) 350/321/Mar-315/200 Atkins since Jan 12, 2004 > >Now if it were sweetened with sugar and not > high-fructose syrup I would buy it instead of DIet-Rite. Huh? >> >Now if it were sweetened with sugar and not >> high-fructose syrup I would buy it instead of DIet-Rite. > >Huh? I don't like the idea of consuming zero-cal, zero-carb chemicals to make something taste good. While in OWL it is helpful, but I look forward to getting nutraweet & splenda out of my diet for the most part. Right now it is limited to milk, diet rite(i drink half a cup when i do drink it), Ice cream, SF jello, or some other desert. I tend to have about one serving a day of one of those. I'd rather occcasionally eat real sugar-sweetened foods than checmically enhanced ones--but until my carb limit rises, these are a stop gap. I've always wished that a cola existed that was less sweet and used sugar and not that high-fructose stuff. DiGiTAL_ViNYL (no email) 350/321/Mar-315/200 Atkins since Jan 12, 2004 > >> >Now if it were sweetened with sugar and not > >> high-fructose syrup I would buy it instead of DIet-Rite. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > occcasionally eat real sugar-sweetened foods than checmically enhanced > ones--but until my carb limit rises, these are a stop gap. why do you need to eat them at all? seriously. you don't need a treat every single day, whether it's low carb or not. once a week, maybe. but every day? >> >> >Now if it were sweetened with sugar and not >> >> high-fructose syrup I would buy it instead of DIet-Rite. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > every single day, whether it's low carb or not. once a week, maybe. > but every day? Yeah, why is this pushed on us so much? I remember in high school where we ALWAYS had dessert. Why is dessert even given there? It's the total BS about believing that one dessert isn't bad, when for those of us with blood sugar problems, it is bad. SignatureBob in CT Remove ".x" to reply >I've always wished that a cola existed that was less sweet and used >sugar and not that high-fructose stuff. Hmm... I haven't seen it for a while, but doesn't kosher Coke have cane sugar instead of fructose? I remember it tasted a LOT better! LCing since 12/01/03- Me- 265/222/140 & hubby- 310/243/180 I am confused what is this about ? is not diet pepsi carb free already ? I love the pepsi vanilla in fact I always double check the bottle it tastes so good I always fear I grabbed the regular. never tried the regular vanilla and never will. don't want to possibly spoil how good the diet version tastes. sadly it has caffeine but so far is has not affected me (fingers crossed) Chris Taylor http://www.nerys.com/ > >I've always wished that a cola existed that was less sweet and used > >sugar and not that high-fructose stuff. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Me- 265/222/140 > & hubby- 310/243/180 >I am confused what is this about ? > >is not diet pepsi carb free already ? Yes, but they use aspartame, which a lot of people try to avoid. LCing since 12/01/03- Me- 265/222/140 & hubby- 310/242/180 LCer09 burbled across the ether: >> I've always wished that a cola existed that was less sweet and used >> sugar and not that high-fructose stuff. > > Hmm... I haven't seen it for a while, but doesn't kosher Coke have > cane sugar instead of fructose? I remember it tasted a LOT better! Yep, kosher Coke uses cane sugar (the original formula). I think you can get some by writing the Coke company, but I think I remember that some groceries carry it temporarily around passover, if you ask them nicely. <begin small print> Information for those who have familial kosher needs. Not a lowcarb indorsement. TYVM Signaturerevek www.geocities.com/tanirevek/LowCarb.html lowcarbing since June 2002 5'2" 41 F 165+/too much/size seven petite please Do not meddle in the affairs of wizards, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup." >LCer09 burbled across the ether: >>> I've always wished that a cola existed that was less sweet and used [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >some groceries carry it temporarily around passover, if you ask them >nicely. I've never even heard of Kosher Coke! If I knew that I would have tried to buy that all the time. Of course, now I don't really drink cola much at all. ><begin small print> Information for those who have familial kosher >needs. Not a lowcarb indorsement. TYVM DiGiTAL_ViNYL (no email) 350/319/Mar-315/200 Atkins since Jan 12, 2004 What's wrong with Diet Rite Cola? > >I've always wished that a cola existed that was less sweet and used > >sugar and not that high-fructose stuff. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Me- 265/222/140 > & hubby- 310/243/180 >What's wrong with Diet Rite Cola? It is a frankenfood, not real, chemically manufactured product. Something that Atkins in pricipal tells you to avoid(the turns around and says use food substitues to make maintenance doable). Personally, I would rather have a sugar-based drink then a chemically sweetened one. However, most of us in OWL can't afford sugary drinks so it is a "necessary" evil for some. I'm drinking about one 2-litre bottle in a month. DiGiTAL_ViNYL (no email) 350/318/Mar-315/200 Atkins since Jan 12, 2004 >What's wrong with Diet Rite Cola? Nothing's wrong with Diet Rite. The question was is regular soda was ever made without high fructose corn syrup. And it is, in kosher Coke. LCing since 12/01/03- Me- 265/222/140 & hubby- 310/242/180 > Just saw this on the news. > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Lorraine > - different one. Clueless Clueless Clueless .... Another attempt by a major carb foodmaker to obscure what Lo-Carb really is.... BJ > Just saw this on the news. > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Lorraine > - different one. they made this stuff in Canada a while back it was called Pepsi Max I think and it tasted ok but way too many carbs still. Everyone is out to make a buck from us LC'ers! Laureen > Just saw this on the news. > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Lorraine > - different one. WTF? My thoughts exactly. I no longer like soft drinks. I used to be addicted to Mt. Dew. Just the thought of a soft drink now, makes me want to throw up. I seen the ad on TV allready. So, wonder whats next? Its like liquid candy, soft drinks are.. A doc said to me once. I no longer want to put the poison in my body. I have control over what I put in my mouth now. :) |
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