I picked up a package of tortillas made locally. The nutrition label sounds
wrong to me, but I thought I would post it to get others opinions....(it's
in Cdn measurements)
Per 34g serving (1 tortilla)
energy - 118 cal
protein - 3.5 g
fat 3.1g
poly un 0.7g
monoun 1.6g
satur 0.7g
choles 0mg
Carbohydrates 19g
sugars 1.0g
starch 16g
dietary fibre 20g
sodium 260mg
potassium 100mg
Ingredients: Whole wheat flour, water, vegetable oil, shortening, salt,
calcium sulphate, dextrose, sodium bicarbonate, sodium alumininum phosphate,
fumaric acid, mono and diglycerides, guar gum, calcium propionate, sodium
metabbisulphite.
Can this be true? Am I reading this incorrectly, or does this tortilla have
a net carb count of -1? (carbs - fibre)
Jenny - 10 Mar 2004 13:13 GMT
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> I picked up a package of tortillas made locally. The nutrition label sounds
> wrong to me, but I thought I would post it to get others opinions....(it's
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> Can this be true? Am I reading this incorrectly, or does this tortilla have
> a net carb count of -1? (carbs - fibre)
tylerjune - 10 Mar 2004 13:14 GMT
I would venture a guess that the fibre count is a misprint and likely should
read 2.0 Most of the tortillas I look at have fibre count near this. I am
also Canadian.
TJ
Jenny - 10 Mar 2004 13:16 GMT
It looks to me like this tortilla has a "net carbs" of at least 19 grams!
Use the hidden carb calculator at
http://www.lowcarb.ca/low-carb-tools/hidden_carbs.html
The fiber has already been subtracted.
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> I picked up a package of tortillas made locally. The nutrition label sounds
> wrong to me, but I thought I would post it to get others opinions....(it's
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> Can this be true? Am I reading this incorrectly, or does this tortilla have
> a net carb count of -1? (carbs - fibre)
Ignoramus21909 - 10 Mar 2004 13:56 GMT
> It looks to me like this tortilla has a "net carbs" of at least 19 grams!
then try adding up all weights and see how the sum is more than 34
grams.
i
> Use the hidden carb calculator at
> http://www.lowcarb.ca/low-carb-tools/hidden_carbs.html
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> have
>> a net carb count of -1? (carbs - fibre)
Peter Schrader - 10 Mar 2004 14:05 GMT
If you read the original post, it doesn't even say that these are labeled
low carb...just think the poster got confused because of a misprint (or they
were reading it wrong). I am quite sure that it is supposed to be 2.0 grams
of fiber (+ 1g of sugar + 16g of starch = 19 g of carbs)...in which case
they have 17 "net carbs"
> > It looks to me like this tortilla has a "net carbs" of at least 19 grams!
>
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> > have
> >> a net carb count of -1? (carbs - fibre)
DigitalVinyl - 10 Mar 2004 15:37 GMT
>If you read the original post, it doesn't even say that these are labeled
>low carb...just think the poster got confused because of a misprint (or they
>were reading it wrong). I am quite sure that it is supposed to be 2.0 grams
>of fiber (+ 1g of sugar + 16g of starch = 19 g of carbs)...in which case
>they have 17 "net carbs"
If you do the calcualtion you'll see that 17 is likely wrong and most
likely this country does not consider fiber a carb.
118 total calories...
3.5g prot = 14.0 cals
3.1g fat = 27.9 cals
That leaves 76.1 calories of carbs
19 g of carbs = 76 calories
17 g of carbs = 68 calories
Canada may not count fiber in the carb total since it doesn't digest.
(Which makes sense--why don't we do that!) It is possible that some
large content has a higher caloric content than 4-4-9 rule.
>> > It looks to me like this tortilla has a "net carbs" of at least 19
>grams!
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>> > have
>> >> a net carb count of -1? (carbs - fibre)
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Bob (this one) - 10 Mar 2004 13:17 GMT
> I picked up a package of tortillas made locally. The nutrition label sounds
> wrong to me, but I thought I would post it to get others opinions....(it's
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>
> Can this be true?
<LOL> Sure.
> Am I reading this incorrectly, or does this tortilla have
> a net carb count of -1? (carbs - fibre)
<LOL> No. It has a net carb count of 19 grams. They've already
subtracted the fiber. Calorie numbers work with 19 grams carb.
Pastorio
jmk - 10 Mar 2004 13:30 GMT
> I picked up a package of tortillas made locally. The nutrition label sounds
> wrong to me, but I thought I would post it to get others opinions....(it's
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> Can this be true? Am I reading this incorrectly, or does this tortilla have
> a net carb count of -1? (carbs - fibre)
What country are you in? In some placed the fiber is already subtracted.

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Peter Schrader - 10 Mar 2004 13:46 GMT
20 grams of fiber in one tortilla?....very unlikely (even for a whole wheat
tortilla)
More likely?... it is a misprint and should be 2.0 grams.
> I picked up a package of tortillas made locally. The nutrition label sounds
> wrong to me, but I thought I would post it to get others opinions....(it's
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> Can this be true? Am I reading this incorrectly, or does this tortilla have
> a net carb count of -1? (carbs - fibre)
Ignoramus21909 - 10 Mar 2004 13:55 GMT
> I picked up a package of tortillas made locally. The nutrition label sounds
> wrong to me, but I thought I would post it to get others opinions....(it's
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> sodium 260mg
> potassium 100mg
19 grams of fiber is what you get after eating a couple of pounds of
vegetables. And they say 19 grams of fiber in a measly 34 gram
tortilla? Give me a f.cking break.
Fiber is obviously not a part of their total carbs, as the fiber
number os more than the stated carb number. And if fiber was already
subtracted, then fiber +other carbs weigh more than the tortilla.
So, this is one more fraudulent low carb product.
That's why I do not even bother checking LC labeled processed food for
myself, if it is labeled LC, I presume it to be fraudulent food.
i
> Ingredients: Whole wheat flour, water, vegetable oil, shortening, salt,
> calcium sulphate, dextrose, sodium bicarbonate, sodium alumininum phosphate,
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> Can this be true? Am I reading this incorrectly, or does this tortilla have
> a net carb count of -1? (carbs - fibre)
Roger Zoul - 10 Mar 2004 16:23 GMT
:: In article <4fE3c.113804$IF6.3652432@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca>,
:: BrightStar wrote:
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::
:: So, this is one more fraudulent low carb product.
It's obviously a misprint...the fiber should be 2.0 gram and not twenty.
And they are counting fiber in the calorie count. It's probably not even a
LC product.
:: That's why I do not even bother checking LC labeled processed food
:: for
:: myself, if it is labeled LC, I presume it to be fraudulent food.
You're just so f.cking full of yourself that you can't think.
:: i
::
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::: Can this be true? Am I reading this incorrectly, or does this
::: tortilla have a net carb count of -1? (carbs - fibre)
Ignoramus21909 - 10 Mar 2004 18:01 GMT
>:: In article <4fE3c.113804$IF6.3652432@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca>,
>:: BrightStar wrote:
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> And they are counting fiber in the calorie count. It's probably not even a
> LC product.
It is funny how these misprints help sell those tortillas...
>:: That's why I do not even bother checking LC labeled processed food
>:: for
>:: myself, if it is labeled LC, I presume it to be fraudulent food.
>
> You're just so f.cking full of yourself that you can't think.
Ah, I am so upset... You are just angry that I finally publicly called
you stupid.
i
jpatti - 12 Mar 2004 05:46 GMT
> :: That's why I do not even bother checking LC labeled processed food
> :: for
> :: myself, if it is labeled LC, I presume it to be fraudulent food.
>
> You're just so f.cking full of yourself that you can't think.
That may be, but... I ran across this today:
http://cbs2.com/specialassign/local_story_036200059.html
Apparently, some of the labels aren't just misleading with the "net
carb" crap, but are outright *lying*.
Ignoramus28275 - 12 Mar 2004 14:27 GMT
>> :: That's why I do not even bother checking LC labeled processed food
>> :: for
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> Apparently, some of the labels aren't just misleading with the "net
> carb" crap, but are outright *lying*.
Thanks for a great post.
i
Roger Zoul - 12 Mar 2004 22:25 GMT
:: In article <f7355fcb.0403112146.62af6e40@posting.google.com>, jpatti
:: wrote:
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::
:: Thanks for a great post.
Many of those items have a lot to do with the person making and serving
those dishes. If you get a subway wrap, how can you be sure the person
making your wrap with make it just as the Subway people did? You can't.
But it serves your ignorant agenda, Ig, to enjoy reading and responding to
bullshit.
jpatti - 13 Mar 2004 05:14 GMT
> Many of those items have a lot to do with the person making and serving
> those dishes. If you get a subway wrap, how can you be sure the person
> making your wrap with make it just as the Subway people did? You can't.
That's true... but if it were simply a matter of human error in
preparation, I'd have expected at least *some* of the results to be
low as well as high. Though granted, it wasn't a statistical study,
but still it seems odd that in every case where there was a
discrepancy, the carbs were higher than claimed.
I found the most disturbing bit being the low-carb bagel with 55 g. I
mean, that one is just flat-out lying - it was 3 times the carbs that
they claimed.
DigitalVinyl - 13 Mar 2004 15:40 GMT
>> Many of those items have a lot to do with the person making and serving
>> those dishes. If you get a subway wrap, how can you be sure the person
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>but still it seems odd that in every case where there was a
>discrepancy, the carbs were higher than claimed.
Again I think that is more part of the human equation. If a server in
a restaurant shorts you you are likely to speak up, complain, ask for
more. If they give you more you say nothing, and its unlikely that the
server will TAKE IT AWAY. And you might even give a waiter a better
tip for the larger portion (conscoiusly o unconsciously). If you were
served too many onions in a Subway sandwich you might pick them out.
However when they evaluate food content they don't do any such
trimming. Can you see why, psychologically and business-wise, servers
would tend to over-serve and rarely under-serve portions?
>I found the most disturbing bit being the low-carb bagel with 55 g. I
>mean, that one is just flat-out lying - it was 3 times the carbs that
>they claimed.
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DigitalVinyl - 12 Mar 2004 18:49 GMT
>> :: That's why I do not even bother checking LC labeled processed food
>> :: for
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>Apparently, some of the labels aren't just misleading with the "net
>carb" crap, but are outright *lying*.
Actually restaurant portion and make up are naturally varied, largely
because of the human being making the food. I *FULLY* expect a meal
from a eating establishment to vary from visit to visit. I belive
someone else commented on Subway employees offering choices on a their
low carb wrap and the person was upset--well the point at subway is
you can have anything you want and within low carb their are choices.
The carb count is based upon specific toppings and a specific amount
of condiments. I can tell you when the guy put sauce on he put more
than the specified amount. He put on lots of olives, exactly two
slices of bacon. Any variance in the random handfuls of stuff they use
will send calories/carbs/etc high or low. Expecting machine-like
accuracy from hand prepared food simply isn't realistic. While
restauraants do have portion controls, variance is going to be
introduced. I've ordered meals from chain restaurants and had
variation from visit to visit.
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Jean M. - 10 Mar 2004 14:20 GMT
>Can this be true? Am I reading this incorrectly, or does this tortilla have
>a net carb count of -1? (carbs - fibre)
We wish! I saw some gum with a listed carb count of -5 online. If
only. We could eat and chew our ways to thinness.
Elinor Dashwood - 10 Mar 2004 22:10 GMT
> Per 34g serving (1 tortilla)
> energy - 118 cal
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> Can this be true? Am I reading this incorrectly, or does this tortilla have
> a net carb count of -1? (carbs - fibre)
Prolly a typo.