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The Day Has Arrived! (Entenmans)
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jk - 11 Mar 2004 23:01 GMT When I first started this five years ago, I remember that low fat was all the rage. I think the thing that killed my LF diet was when Entenmans cakes came out with those wonderful "zero fat", loaded with sugar goodies. Well THE DAY HAS ARRIVED...... I see tons of Entenmans LOW CARB cakes and cookies in my supermarket. Well they're not exactly low carb, but certainly much better than the regular stuff. That is if you're a believer in the net carb BS. What do you all think?
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Jean - 11 Mar 2004 23:11 GMT > When I first started this five years ago, I remember that low fat was all > the rage. I think the thing that killed my LF diet was when Entenmans cakes [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Coney Island Memories > www.sinrodstudios.com/coneymemories I LOVE the pound cake, yum!
Cookie - 12 Mar 2004 04:38 GMT "Jean" wrote in message
> I LOVE the pound cake, yum! Me too! Sometimes just a half slice with a cup of creamed coffee makes my mouth happy:)
DigitalVinyl - 11 Mar 2004 23:22 GMT > When I first started this five years ago, I remember that low fat was all >the rage. I think the thing that killed my LF diet was when Entenmans cakes [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >better than the regular stuff. That is if you're a believer in the net carb >BS. What do you all think? If all they did was remove sugar/flours and substitute it with sugar alcohols, the stuff will be almost as bad as the regular. I think Jenny pointed out that Maltitol is about 75% glucose, so depending upon the sugar/starch substitution they are making it may be all marketing.
The only net I'm counting now is carbs minus fiber. If a low-carb product turns into less than 4cals per gram in the body then I will simply be erring on good side of my carb limit by using them.
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Jean M. - 12 Mar 2004 01:07 GMT > When I first started this five years ago, I remember that low fat was all >the rage. I think the thing that killed my LF diet was when Entenmans cakes [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >better than the regular stuff. That is if you're a believer in the net carb >BS. What do you all think? I think they aren't there yet, but at least the food manufacurers are paying attention. I heard on the news this evening that the famous Crispy Creme is coming out with lower carb doughnuts.
Of course, when all the low carb people don't buy these not-really-low-carb goodies, they will disappear. We'll see if they come up with stuff that really is or if they drop it altogether.
carla - 12 Mar 2004 02:01 GMT > Of course, when all the low carb people don't buy these > not-really-low-carb goodies, they will disappear. We'll see if they > come up with stuff that really is or if they drop it altogether. I think that's overly optimistic - people will buy them. They will be as much of a commercial success as SnackWells and other lowfat treats are.
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Jenny - 12 Mar 2004 13:31 GMT Carla,
Not only will people buy them, but people will believe they are on low carb diets while slugging down 100+ grams of carbs a day.
Their weight loss will stall, their cholesterol will shoot up (carbs over 100 g plus a bunch of fat is the prescription for dietary disaster). And they'll conclude "low carbing doesn't work."
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> > Of course, when all the low carb people don't buy these > > not-really-low-carb goodies, they will disappear. We'll see if they [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > carla Ignoramus28275 - 12 Mar 2004 14:32 GMT > Carla, > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > 100 g plus a bunch of fat is the prescription for dietary disaster). And > they'll conclude "low carbing doesn't work." The correct statement would be that low carbing does not work for suckers. Otherwise, I agree with your predictions.
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Teeb - 12 Mar 2004 01:20 GMT Oh God not the Entenman's conversation again.. scroll back a couple weeks and see how badly this topic degenerated the first time we had it, ROFL..
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> When I first started this five years ago, I remember that low fat was all > the rage. I think the thing that killed my LF diet was when Entenmans cakes [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > better than the regular stuff. That is if you're a believer in the net carb > BS. What do you all think? D0RAJARR - 12 Mar 2004 01:33 GMT >Subject: The Day Has Arrived! (Entenmans) >From: "jk" jksinrod@aol.com [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >better than the regular stuff. That is if you're a believer in the net carb >BS. What do you all think? I think caring so much about food is bad for you. I view what I eat now as gas for the car, nothing more. Makes it very easy not to cave and eat 'replacement' foods. Why bother with that stuff? There's enough good *real* food to eat to be worried about what chemical-laden sweets you can get your hands on. The need to eat crap speaks to a weak will and misguided intent. And I mean no offense by this, I'm just calling it how I see it.
Cakes, candy, soda, etc....all what got most of us into trouble to begin with. Some, like me, are diabetic - there is really no choice when its your life on the line.
I am happy for you that manufacturers are waking up and taking note of the very real presence of low-carbers, but I would warn you that eating replacement foods, IMHO, is just a slippery slope that, if you trip, can slide you right back down where you started.
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Cookie - 12 Mar 2004 04:51 GMT > I think caring so much about food is bad for you. I view what I eat now as gas > for the car, nothing more. Makes it very easy not to cave and eat > 'replacement' foods. Why bother with that stuff? There's enough good *real* > food to eat to be worried about what chemical-laden sweets you can get your > hands on. The need to eat crap speaks to a weak will and misguided intent. > And I mean no offense by this, I'm just calling it how I see it. How sad for you! People that enjoy food that you don't enjoy are not misguided or weak-willed. Who made you "food god" of the world?
> Cakes, candy, soda, etc....all what got most of us into trouble to begin with. > Some, like me, are diabetic - there is really no choice when its your life on > the line. We diabetics have enjoyed sugar free treats for many years. It's so nice that many items now actually taste good and non diabetics have made them popular:)
> I am happy for you that manufacturers are waking up and taking note of the very > real presence of low-carbers, but I would warn you that eating replacement > foods, IMHO, is just a slippery slope that, if you trip, can slide you right > back down where you started. That's exactly the reason that I haven't slid back down to where I started (on maintenance for 5 months). I can have my cake and eat it too. If you can't handle eating certain foods, that's your issue...or is that, in your words, a "weak-will"?
Bob in CT - 12 Mar 2004 12:13 GMT >> I think caring so much about food is bad for you. I view what I eat now > as gas [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > your > words, a "weak-will"? But this is how almost all of us ended up as being fat. In my opinion, this stuff is just useless calories.
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Jenny - 12 Mar 2004 13:36 GMT Cookie,
We diabetics also notice that even the world's most conservative Diabetes organization, the American Diabetes Association explains that you have to count half of carb grams of a sugar alcohol as real carbs.
Counting half of the maltitol in the Entenmann's as real carbs boosts the true carb counts of their products way over 9 grams.
The mistake people make is that because they can eat these products and still lose or maintain, they believe the carb counts on these products. In fact, it just means that their bodies can handle more carbs than they realize.
I can eat an occasional restaurant dinner roll and still lose or maintain. That doesn't make regular dinner rolls (22 grams a piece) low carb.
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> > I think caring so much about food is bad for you. I view what I eat now > as gas [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > can't handle eating certain foods, that's your issue...or is that, in your > words, a "weak-will"? Ignoramus28275 - 12 Mar 2004 14:34 GMT >> I think caring so much about food is bad for you. I view what I eat now > as gas [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > How sad for you! People that enjoy food that you don't enjoy are not > misguided or weak-willed. Who made you "food god" of the world? Well, if they are fat because they enjoy wrong food, then they are misguided and weak willed.
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Cate - 12 Mar 2004 15:55 GMT Ignoramus28275 <ignoramus28275@NOSPAM.28275.invalid> wrote in news:c2shos $vh4$9@pita.alt.net:
> Well, if they are fat because they enjoy wrong food, then they are > misguided and weak willed. I prefer Julia Child's way of looking at food: [paraphrasing] There is no such thing as a bad food. It's all about portion size and self-control. Some people know how to master it (or never had to worry about it to begin with); the ones who don't get sick and/or fat.
Cate
Ignoramus28275 - 12 Mar 2004 16:06 GMT > Ignoramus28275 <ignoramus28275@NOSPAM.28275.invalid> wrote in news:c2shos > $vh4$9@pita.alt.net: [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Some people know how to master it (or never had to worry about it to begin > with); the ones who don't get sick and/or fat. Surely, you are right. If you can manage to, first, limit your calories while eating junk food, and two, get all necessary nutrients, then all the power to you.
A frequent case for fat people, though, is that junk food, ice creams etc, make controlling calories much more difficult. For dieters who have to stay low cal, getting enough vitamins/fiber/whatever becomes also difficult if you eat high calorie low nutrient food.
I am one of those people.
What I am objecting to is the notion that low carb labeled junk food is somehow much superior to regular junk food, which it is not.
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Bob in CT - 12 Mar 2004 16:30 GMT >> Ignoramus28275 <ignoramus28275@NOSPAM.28275.invalid> wrote in >> news:c2shos [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > i I agree -- you might as well eat the regular junk food (although finding any junk food without transfat is hard).
Have you seen Julia Child lately? (Although she ate high fat and high carb is getting up there in age).
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Ignoramus28275 - 12 Mar 2004 16:40 GMT >>> Ignoramus28275 <ignoramus28275@NOSPAM.28275.invalid> wrote in >>> news:c2shos [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > I agree -- you might as well eat the regular junk food (although finding > any junk food without transfat is hard). That's because transfats do not go rancid after the product spends a couple of months on store shelves. Regular fats do.
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Cate - 12 Mar 2004 20:08 GMT Ignoramus28275 <ignoramus28275@NOSPAM.28275.invalid> wrote in news:c2sn61 $du6$0@pita.alt.net:
> What I am objecting to is the notion that low carb labeled junk food > is somehow much superior to regular junk food, which it is not. I agree. To parrot what at least one other poster said, I'd rather taste a 60g slice of homemade cake than a 40g slice of low-carb processed 'cake' made by Atkins.
But that's a personal preference and not everyone needs to agree with me. Some people prefer the taste of processed stuff and wouldn't know a good ganache if they stepped in it.
Cate
JC Der Koenig - 12 Mar 2004 01:43 GMT Entenmans is not low carb.
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> When I first started this five years ago, I remember that low fat was all > the rage. I think the thing that killed my LF diet was when Entenmans cakes [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > better than the regular stuff. That is if you're a believer in the net carb > BS. What do you all think? Chris Taylor Jr - 12 Mar 2004 02:16 GMT GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
I hate this stuff.
I am JUST getting my dad convinced that this diet will work for him (he needs to lose badly) since he has seen my 74 pounds loss (341 now baby !! from 415)
he bought the damned entimans. I said do you know how many carbs this thing is ? he said yeah 9.
I was like first thats almost half your allowance and second NO your wrong.
it has over 60 something cards. that is PER serving and a serving is VERY VERY SMALL.
Grrrr he promises he won't buy it anymore (that is how downfall the cakes etc..)
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> When I first started this five years ago, I remember that low fat was all > the rage. I think the thing that killed my LF diet was when Entenmans cakes [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Coney Island Memories > www.sinrodstudios.com/coneymemories Bear - 12 Mar 2004 04:38 GMT You tell him Chris.
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> GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR > [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > > Coney Island Memories > > www.sinrodstudios.com/coneymemories Cookie - 12 Mar 2004 04:59 GMT "Chris Taylor Jr" wrote in message
> GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Chris Taylor First of all, this stuff is hardly for induction or ongoing weight loss. It is 9 effective carb grams per serving. One serving is 1/8 of the cake, about 3/4" thick. I've learned to measure it out, wrap each piece individually and refrigerate half, freeze the other half. I like it but I don't love it and I'm able to eat a half slice happily. Like everything else, this isn't for everybody. Generally, if it makes you stumble and binge, don't even have it in the house
Richrossnj - 12 Mar 2004 04:03 GMT The Day has also arrived for Low Carb YOGURT!!!
TasTyMorsL - 12 Mar 2004 04:36 GMT you have to pick you passions with all the LC products and not use them to replace everything you once ate that was bad for you - sure this stuff is nice to have around, but the people who have success with this program use these LC products OCCASIONALLY, not every day or every week - its nice to know that when I have company for dinner once in a while I can have a slice of LC poundcake & berrieswhile they eat the regular stuff- but your kidding yourself if you substitute lots of LC products for "real food" on this WOE -
Cookie - 12 Mar 2004 05:12 GMT > you have to pick you passions with all the LC products and > not use them to replace everything you once ate that was [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > your kidding yourself if you substitute lots of LC products for "real food" > on this WOE - Absolutely! I used the poundcake for strawberry shortcake for my family and company last week. Nobody noticed the difference and I got to enjoy it along with them. It is an occasional thing and should be used as such. Frankly I am usually too full from real food to even want dessert most of the time but I do like it sometimes.
Chet Hayes - 12 Mar 2004 15:06 GMT > Absolutely! I used the poundcake for strawberry shortcake for my family and > company last week. Nobody noticed the difference and I got to enjoy it along > with them. It is an occasional thing and should be used as such. Frankly I > am usually too full from real food to even want dessert most of the time but > I do like it sometimes. I agree, I'm sick of the "my way or the hiway food nazis." These LC products have a place when they are used correctly as part of an overall diet. For some reason, some people think that most of us are going to make them the center piece of our diets, instead of using them occasionally in moderation.
Luna - 12 Mar 2004 16:12 GMT > > Absolutely! I used the poundcake for strawberry shortcake for my family and > > company last week. Nobody noticed the difference and I got to enjoy it along [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > going to make them the center piece of our diets, instead of using > them occasionally in moderation. Well, some of us don't have the nicest way of putting it, but I'll try to explain my opinion on these low-carb products.
Here's an analogy:
Imagine you are a freshman in college, and getting good grades is so much harder than it was in highschool. So you work your a.s off and study as much as you can. Your dorm mate, however, has decided to listen to subliminal-message tapes while he sleeps that will impart knowledge into his brain without his needing to study at all during the day. Now, if you imagine yourself in that situation, and if you think you would be a bit skeptical of your dorm mate's chance for success, then you may understand how we feel. "We" being people who don't eat low-carb versions of high-carb foods. It's not just that we're skeptical of these products, it's also that we value the change in mindset that comes from learning to live without certain foods, instead of looking for substitutes. That mindset change is a big part of the WOE for a lot of people. If you look for substitutes for cakes, cookies, candies, etc, then from a "purist's" perspective it looks like you're missing the whole point of changing the way you eat.
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Bob in CT - 12 Mar 2004 16:29 GMT >> > Absolutely! I used the poundcake for strawberry shortcake for my >> family and [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > perspective it looks like you're missing the whole point of changing the > way you eat. For me, I'd rather eat the real stuff. (Although I personally don't consider store-bought, high sugar and trans-fat containing Entenmans the real stuff.) Why eat something that has an ingredient list longer than post pages in a dictionary? Go buy a piece of cake and eat it or make it yourself and freeze portions of it.
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DigitalVinyl - 12 Mar 2004 19:03 GMT >> you have to pick you passions with all the LC products and >> not use them to replace everything you once ate that was [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >am usually too full from real food to even want dessert most of the time but >I do like it sometimes. That's fine as long as you realize that people can digest sugar alcohols into glucose, affecting blood sugar level, whether you maintain ketosis and are not necessarily free or netted out.
Question is, are people proving out to themselves that these products aren't hurting their weight loss or just accepting them barring some horrible and obvious consequence.
A good test is to have a siginificant serving of this for a few days in a row and see if you stop losing or gain weight(deterring from previous pattern). I found that a 18g maltitol muffin cut my weight loss in half. A 60g slice of low carb cake might hurt you as much as a 50g slice of real cake. I'd rather have the real stuff if the LC isn't going to help stay the course.
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Xray658 - 12 Mar 2004 05:10 GMT << The Day has also arrived for Low Carb YOGURT!!! >><BR><BR>
Dannon's low cart yogurt lists the first ingredient as water!
Cookie - 12 Mar 2004 05:59 GMT > << The Day has also arrived for Low Carb YOGURT!!! >><BR><BR> > > Dannon's low cart yogurt lists the first ingredient as water! The second ingredient is skim milk and the third ingredient is cream. I often mix water and cream in place of milk in recipes.
Ignoramus28275 - 12 Mar 2004 14:35 GMT > The Day has also arrived for Low Carb YOGURT!!! plain yogurt has always been low carb.
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The Queen of Cans and Jars - 12 Mar 2004 10:38 GMT > When I first started this five years ago, I remember that low fat was all > the rage. I think the thing that killed my LF diet was when Entenmans cakes [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > better than the regular stuff. That is if you're a believer in the net carb > BS. What do you all think? i think it's been a good ten years since i touched an entenmann's product and i don't care if i never touch one again.
Luna - 12 Mar 2004 15:59 GMT > > When I first started this five years ago, I remember that low fat was all > > the rage. I think the thing that killed my LF diet was when Entenmans cakes [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > i think it's been a good ten years since i touched an entenmann's > product and i don't care if i never touch one again. Yeah, I think even their full-carb, full-fat stuff ain't so hot.
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The Queen of Cans and Jars - 12 Mar 2004 21:06 GMT > > > When I first started this five years ago, I remember that low fat > > > was all the rage. I think the thing that killed my LF diet was when [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Yeah, I think even their full-carb, full-fat stuff ain't so hot. exactly. i'd much rather have a single slice of good, homemade full-sugar cake than any quanitity of that insipid, tasteless crap they try to pass off as pastry.
Ignoramus28275 - 12 Mar 2004 14:31 GMT > When I first started this five years ago, I remember that low fat was all > the rage. I think the thing that killed my LF diet was when Entenmans cakes [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > better than the regular stuff. That is if you're a believer in the net carb > BS. What do you all think? I have a bridge to sell you...
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jk - 12 Mar 2004 14:46 GMT Since I started this thread let me attempt to wrap it up. The point I was making, is how mainstream LC has become when a product like Entenmans makes a splash! Sure it's not exactly a piece of steak, but it's sure a long way from the sugar laden low fat cakes of 5 years ago. I've not had one single piece of bread, cake, pasta, fruit, rice, in 5 years this April. Now I can enjoy a "net carb" 9 gram slice of pound cake, or store bought icecream once in a while. It's great. As to the smug will power comments.... duh.... isn't that the problem we all have? If we could ever look at food as gas for our car, we wouldn't have this problem at all. Unfortunately we love food.... love to eat well, and look forward to our next meal. If you've truly gotten past that, god bless you!
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Ignoramus28275 - 12 Mar 2004 15:04 GMT > Since I started this thread let me attempt to wrap it up. The point > I was making, is how mainstream LC has become when a product like > Entenmans makes a splash! true.
>Sure it's not exactly a piece of steak, not even close
> but it's sure a long way from the sugar laden low fat cakes of 5 > years ago.
>I've not had one single piece of bread, cake, pasta, > fruit, rice, in 5 years this April. Now I can enjoy a "net carb" 9 > gram slice of pound cake, or store bought icecream once in a > while. It's great. you could as well enjoy tiny slices of sugar laden crap once every great while. So I am not sure how these LC labeled products are superior to the old ones, if you are still forced to eat only a tiny bit of them once every while. Also, many of them are fraudulent.
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>As to the smug will power > comments.... duh.... isn't that the problem we all have? If we could > ever look at food as gas for our car, we wouldn't have this problem > at all. Unfortunately we love food.... love to eat well, and look > forward to our next meal. If you've truly gotten past that, god > bless you! There is nothing wrong with loving food and yet not wanting to poison one's body with bad [for the person] food.
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Doug Freyburger - 12 Mar 2004 21:54 GMT > When I first started this five years ago, I remember that low fat was all > the rage. I think the thing that killed my LF diet was when Entenmans cakes [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > better than the regular stuff. That is if you're a believer in the net carb > BS. What do you all think? Folks have bad habits that got them fat in the first place. Rather than being willing to change their bad habits, most want a magic bullet. It doesn't matter that no magic bullet exists, if you lie on the label and claim you're selling a magic bullet, you can make enough money to retire before the USDA goes after you for truth in labelling law violations.
Magic bullet nonsense zero fat cakes trashed the low fat movement in the popular view. Magic bullet nonsense low carb cakes will trash the low carb movement in the popular view. But the folks on ASDLC who DO adopt healthy habits WILL still be here.
Jean B. - 13 Mar 2004 17:59 GMT > When I first started this five years ago, I remember that low fat was all > the rage. I think the thing that killed my LF diet was when Entenmans cakes [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > better than the regular stuff. That is if you're a believer in the net carb > BS. What do you all think? Well, I keep looking at them and then putting them back down. I don't think I want to (or should) try to replicate my old WOE completely. If I were to partake freely of all the new items I am seeing, I would be eating unnecessary food and putting weight back on. Thank goodness, I am more in control of what I do and don't eat now.
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D0RAJARR - 14 Mar 2004 04:33 GMT >Subject: Re: The Day Has Arrived! (Entenmans) >From: "Jean B." jbxyz@rcn.com [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >on. Thank goodness, I am more in control of what I do and don't >eat now. This is exactly what I said, but nicer.
-- DJ oh well...some people rail against the truth...
Sunshyne - 14 Mar 2004 17:29 GMT > >Subject: Re: The Day Has Arrived! (Entenmans) > >From: "Jean B." jbxyz@rcn.com [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > > This is exactly what I said, but nicer. A family member, like a aunt bought a low carb entemans dessert for my sons to try. They tried it, got the super cramping diareaha (sp) several hours later. Then they fought over the bathroom in the middle of the night. Overslept for school the next day. They learned a hard lesson on that one. So did I, whatever the ingredients are, it did not agree with them. It was the chcocolate chip cookies.
Sleepyman - 15 Mar 2004 00:23 GMT >> >Subject: Re: The Day Has Arrived! (Entenmans) >> >From: "Jean B." jbxyz@rcn.com [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] >lesson on that one. So did I, whatever the ingredients are, it did not >agree with them. It was the chcocolate chip cookies. Enjoyed those sugar alcohols did they?
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Sunshyne - 15 Mar 2004 05:28 GMT > >> >Subject: Re: The Day Has Arrived! (Entenmans) > >> >From: "Jean B." jbxyz@rcn.com [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > Sleepy I am not too great yet on reading ingredients. Learning some here and there. So, sugar alcohols? Think its best to stick with just real food.
Trying to figure a way to get back at the aunt, do a practical joke. Wait till the next family cookout this summer. Add some laxatives to something. Yeah. Or buy her a box of them things, she would probably love it. Watch her hang out in the bathroom moaning and groaning.
It was something, one bathroom, three teenage boys all needing to go. Whew Wee!!
:) Sleepyman - 15 Mar 2004 22:48 GMT >> >> >Subject: Re: The Day Has Arrived! (Entenmans) >> >> >From: "Jean B." jbxyz@rcn.com [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > >:) You are an evil one. I like it!
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Jean B. - 15 Mar 2004 02:36 GMT > > >Subject: Re: The Day Has Arrived! (Entenmans) > > >From: "Jean B." jbxyz@rcn.com [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > lesson on that one. So did I, whatever the ingredients are, it did not > agree with them. It was the chcocolate chip cookies. Ah yes. That one had maltitol as the number one ingredient, IIRC. Do you have any idea how many your sons ate? Maltitol scares me--and I'm sort-of glad it does. I tried a couple of little peanut butter cookies at one point and thought there was something seriously wrong with my stomach. I had a maltitol-sweetened brownie in the freezer for quite a while, then I thought I might eat it, but I ended up tossing it in the trash.
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jk - 16 Mar 2004 05:46 GMT > A family member, like a aunt bought a low carb entemans dessert for my > sons to try. They tried it, got the super cramping diareaha (sp) > several hours later. Then they fought over the bathroom in the middle > of the night. Overslept for school the next day. They learned a hard > lesson on that one. So did I, whatever the ingredients are, it did not > agree with them. It was the chcocolate chip cookies. Ah the best diet aid in the entire world... diarhea! Seriously though... some are very intolerant to Malitol, like my wife. I fortunately can eat a portion without too much trouble. 2 portions, and gas attacks!
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Jean B. - 16 Mar 2004 16:54 GMT > > A family member, like a aunt bought a low carb entemans dessert for my > > sons to try. They tried it, got the super cramping diareaha (sp) [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > some are very intolerant to Malitol, like my wife. I fortunately can eat a > portion without too much trouble. 2 portions, and gas attacks! Is that fortunate or unfortunate? I'm not so sure. I'm sort-of glad I had horrible stomach pains when I tried to eat two tiny cookies that were sweetened with maltitol. That that taught me a good lesson and keeps me away from such things.
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Sunshyne - 17 Mar 2004 06:59 GMT > > > A family member, like a aunt bought a low carb entemans dessert for my > > > sons to try. They tried it, got the super cramping diareaha (sp) [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > cookies that were sweetened with maltitol. That that taught me a > good lesson and keeps me away from such things. I think it is fortunate Jean, you got that right. Now we know not to eat them things. Or when its offered to us, say no. They had 3 cookies each. Thats what it said a serving is. Then they must have snuck.. Well they did. And then they ate almost the whole box.
Jean B. - 17 Mar 2004 14:57 GMT > > > > A family member, like a aunt bought a low carb entemans dessert for my > > > > sons to try. They tried it, got the super cramping diareaha (sp) [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > cookies each. Thats what it said a serving is. Then they must have > snuck.. Well they did. And then they ate almost the whole box. Yikes! I guess they also learned not to sneak cookies!!!!!
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Ross Himes - 14 Mar 2004 14:43 GMT Just read the label carefully. May low-carb items are not actually low-carb, they are just lower-carb than the full blown items.
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> > When I first started this five years ago, I remember that low fat was all > > the rage. I think the thing that killed my LF diet was when Entenmans cakes [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > on. Thank goodness, I am more in control of what I do and don't > eat now.
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