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Eileen Dougal - 12 Mar 2004 08:21 GMT Hi everyone, I came across this newsgroup tonight while I was getting depressed tonight and considering going OFF the Atkins diet. I think this just may be what I need for support and to keep me focused.
I started Atkins exactly one month ago today. I originally weighed 198. (I am 5'9") I lost 7 lbs the first week and 3 lbs the second week. I lost zero during week 3 and 4. . (very discouraged). There is no way I expected to lose 5 lbs weekly of course but it would be nice to drop an occassional OUNCE every few days...No? I was just thinking tonight that maybe Atkins is not the diet for me. Everyone I know who is on it, continues to lose weight, even if it is just a pound a week. Why would I have lost so much in the first 14 days and lost nothing in the next 2 wks? In fact, this past week, the scale has been teetering between 1-2 lb weight gain but then goes back down. I finished induction and added only 5 additional carbs per week after that and it seems as soon as I went over 20 carbs, that that was the end of my weight loss. Does this mean I have to stay at 20 carbs daily now in order to see any loss? I hope not. The variety is just not enough for me at 20 carbs. Was really looking forward to being upped to 30 carbs daily but now I am beginning to think it is too much?
Maybe some other Atkins dieters out there can give me a few pointers. Thanks for listening. And thanks for this group.
Eileen 198/188 Since Feb.12
Jeri - 12 Mar 2004 09:20 GMT > Hi everyone, > I came across this newsgroup tonight while I was getting [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > Maybe some other Atkins dieters out there can give me a few pointers. > Thanks for listening. And thanks for this group. Welcome to ASDLC and low carb Eileen. You've gotten a great start! Don't get discouraged! It's very common to have a pause in weight loss for a few weeks after induction. Just keep doing what you're doing. I would suggest you stay at 25 until you start losing again then try 30 and so on. Make sure to add some exercise if you haven't already.
The weight fluctuation you're seeing is water so don't be alarmed. In order to gain a pound of fat you'd need to eat ~3500 calories more than you burn. Eating something salty can be enough to add a couple pounds of water for a few days. Also, at that time of the month, you may have the extra added 'bonus' of hormone fluctuations that can result in a 5+ pound weight gain caused by water retention.
Keep on keeping on and the weight will start coming off again. :o)
 Signature Jeri 265/189/120 Atkins since 11/5/01 "Whether you think you can or think you can't, you're right." --Henry Ford
Eileen Dougal - 13 Mar 2004 06:26 GMT Thanks, Jeri for the welcome and the encouragement. I was going to answer everyone in this one message but have to go back and read the others. This may be a dumb message but what does your 265/189/120 mean? Sound like maybe what you started at and what you are now? Or what you want to be? Sorry I sound this dumb but I have never belonged to a dieters support group.
I figured most of my weight loss the first week would be water. Thanks for confirming that. I don't eat any salt at all now though because I do not want to retain water.
Eileen
> > Hi everyone, > > I came across this newsgroup tonight while I was getting [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > "Whether you think you can or think you can't, you're right." > --Henry Ford Saffire - 12 Mar 2004 10:33 GMT > Hi everyone, > I came across this newsgroup tonight while I was getting depressed [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > carbs. Was really looking forward to being upped to 30 carbs daily but now I > am beginning to think it is too much? Hi Eileen, welcome to the group!
What you are experiencing is perfectly NORMAL. During the first two weeks, you lose a LOT of water. Each molecule of emergency glycogen in the liver is bound to about 4-5 molecules of water. As you use up that glycogen during induction, the water is shed. You probably ALSO lost some fat, but MOST of that was water. It seems to be VERY common for weight loss to slow dramatically or stop completely around the 3rd week as the body adjusts to burning fat for energy instead of glycogen.
I lost 7 lbs during induction and then didn't lose any for another 10 days. Even then I lost very slowly compared to many other people. I DID lose, however. Also, the heavier a person is, the faster they tend to lose at first. The less weight you have to lose, the slower the loss generally is. 1-2 lbs per week seems to be average. My pattern seems to be 2-4 lbs per month, and I often go two weeks without losing, or even GAINING a couple. Well, except over the last month or so where I've been losing more rapidly because I cut my calories to 1300-1500 per day -- I've lost 12 lbs in the last 2 months since I started doing that. Just stay the course and you WILL lose.
There are a lot of things that could slow down weight loss. For one thing, PMS can have an effect. Many people find that aspartame stalls them. There is an ongoing debate here about "net carbs" in things like low carb bars & shakes. MANY people find that these will stall them and aren't worth it. One theory is that if you have gastric problems from eating them, then you aren't absorbing much of the sugar alcohols in them -- instead you are stuck on the toilet or suffering from EXPLOSIVE gas; if you DON'T have any gastric distress from eating them, then you are probably ABSORBING the sugar alcohols and therefore are getting WAY more carbs than the "net carbs" touted on the label.
If you aren't doing so yet, now is the time to think about starting an exercise program. It's not REQUIRED, but the benefits can be ENORMOUS! For one thing, the added muscle burns more fat simply by maintaining them. I think I look about 15 lbs lighter now than I did at the SAME weight about 7 years ago because I've been working out, mostly via an exercise bike and resistance training with a Body by Jake Total Body Trainer. I have a LOT of physical problems, but somehow I've managed to keep working out and am SOOOO glad I've been able to do it -- I REALLY surprised myself because I didn't think I COULD do it.
And last, but not least, calories DO count. The beauty of low-carb is that most people tend to feel satisfied with less, mostly due to the extra fat and protein, so they tend not to overeat. The rule of thumb is to eat 10-12 times your CURRENT body weight in calories, so if you are 198, try not to go over 1980 calories per day. If you find that you STILL don't lose weight at that level, then try 8-9 times you body weight.
I've been low-carbing since last June. I FEEL so much better that I have NO plans to go back to the way I was eating before, even when I DO reach my target weight! I've lost 39.5 lbs and LOOK a HELL of a lot better too (see URL in sig for progress photos). Keep reading here and posting -- the information and inspiration here is INVALUABLE! IGNORE JC Der Koenig, one of the resident trolls -- he WILL insult you (he may have already done so before I could even send this). He LOVES angry responses, so don't give him the satisfaction.
Trust me, if *I* can do this, just about ANYONE can, so hang in there :-)
 Signature Saffire 205/166/125 - 5'2.5" Atkins since 6/14/03 Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333
Eileen Dougal - 13 Mar 2004 06:32 GMT Saffire, Yes, I do have gastric distress from sugar alcohols...(By the way, what EXACTLY are sugar alcohols?) But you know what is really surprising me? I've read quite a few posts on here and did not realize that the calorie intake was as important as the carb counting. I just 'assumed' if I am staying at 25 carbs, then I have to lose weight. So, I should be counting calories as well as carbs? Boy, just when I thought I had my carb counting down to an art, now I have to start looking up calories, etc. LOL. Are we supposed to look for just calories in general or calories from fat, etc? Seems like I have alot to learn from this group so hope you don't mind if I ask a thousand questions.
Thanks, Eileen
> > Hi everyone, > > I came across this newsgroup tonight while I was getting depressed [quoted text clipped - 78 lines] > Atkins since 6/14/03 > Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333 Saffire - 13 Mar 2004 10:01 GMT > Saffire, > Yes, I do have gastric distress from sugar alcohols...(By the way, what > EXACTLY are sugar alcohols?) But you know what is really surprising me? I'll let someone else field that in a more scientific manner than I would :-)
> I've read quite a few posts on here and did not realize that the calorie > intake was as important as the carb counting. I just 'assumed' if I am > staying at 25 carbs, then I have to lose weight. So, I should be counting > calories as well as carbs? Boy, just when I thought I had my carb counting > down to an art, now I have to start looking up calories, etc. LOL. Are we Well, for some people it's not as important, especially in the beginning, but for ME it certainly seems to be an issue.
> supposed to look for just calories in general or calories from fat, etc? I've seen different recommendations from different people, but the average seems to be about 60-70% fat, 10% carbs and 30-40% protein. Your needs can vary depending on your activity level. Me, I try to make sure I eat MORE fat than my brain is inclined to think is healthy, a decent amount of protein, and up to about 35-45 grams of carbs per day. I've resisted adding carbs all along because of my slow loss, but I've lost at a more rapid pace not only since cutting calories, but also since UPPING the carbs. Maybe it's a combination of the two that seems to be accelerating it. I started my period today, but I've STILL lost 2 lbs DURING PMS instead of GAINING -- normally I gain 2-3 lbs during PMS and I don't even get back to where I WAS until several days AFTER my period ENDS. I haven't changed my exercise methods or schedule, so I'm leaning toward the combination of the two. WhatEVER -- I'm losing at a faster clip now (FINALLY) and I LIKE it :-)
> Seems like I have alot to learn from this group so hope you don't mind if I > ask a thousand questions. That's what we're here for (some more than others :-)
 Signature Saffire 205/166/125 - 5'2.5" Atkins since 6/14/03 Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333
revek - 14 Mar 2004 00:50 GMT Saffire burbled across the ether:
>> Saffire, >> Yes, I do have gastric distress from sugar alcohols...(By the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I'll let someone else field that in a more scientific manner than I > would :-) Sugar alcohols are chemically defined as saccharide derivatives in which a ketone or aldehyde group is replaced by a hydroxyl group (1).They are classified according to the number of saccharide units present in the molecule. Sorbitol, mannitol and xylitol are monosaccharides derived from glucose, mannose and xylose, respectively. They are naturally present in small amounts in some fruits and vegetables and are commercially produced by hydrogenation of glucose, mannose and xylose. Maltitol and lactitol are disaccharides derived from hydrogenation of maltose and lactose, respectively. Isomalt (also known as palatinit) is a 1:1 mixture of alpha-D-glucopyranosyl-[1-6]-D-sorbitol (GPS) and alpha-D-glucopyranosyl-[1-6]-D-mannitol (GPM). Oligoand polysaccharide sugar alcohols are derived from hydrogenated starch hydrolysates (HSHs) (2), although these compounds are often not included in discussions about sugar alcohols.
Howzat? In any case, sugar alcohols got their name because they are like sugar molecules in some ways and also like alcohol molecules in other ways, but aren't either one. They are sweet tasting chemical compounds that are different than either, but the chemical name can be off putting so the marketers came up with something that doesn't sound so frightening to the layperson who doesn't usually remember that *all* molecules are chemicals and even water can sound horrid if you use it's chemical name-- dihydromonoxide.
http://www.gumbopages.com/fridge/dmho.html
http://www.dhmo.org/
 Signature revek www.geocities.com/tanirevek/LowCarb.html lowcarbing since June 2002 5'2" 41 F 165+/too much/size seven petite please In the beginning was the word. And the word was "Aardvark".
JC Der Koenig - 12 Mar 2004 11:29 GMT Quit eating so much and start doing more exercise.
 Signature Most of us probably aren't in danger of eating too little. :)
Becky P.
> Hi everyone, > I came across this newsgroup tonight while I was getting depressed [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > 198/188 > Since Feb.12 Eileen Dougal - 13 Mar 2004 06:34 GMT I don't insult that easily....
> Quit eating so much and start doing more exercise. > [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > > 198/188 > > Since Feb.12 Saffire - 13 Mar 2004 09:41 GMT > > Quit eating so much and start doing more exercise.
> I don't insult that easily.... What'd I tell you? Is he predictable or what?
 Signature Saffire 205/166/125 - 5'2.5" Atkins since 6/14/03 Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333
JC Der Koenig - 13 Mar 2004 12:01 GMT That wasn't an insult. If I were to write that you should stop shoving so much crap into your fat piehole, you obese WFFID, then that might be considered an insult, even thought it's probably true.
 Signature Most of us probably aren't in danger of eating too little. :)
Becky P.
> I don't insult that easily.... > [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > > > 198/188 > > > Since Feb.12 Luna - 13 Mar 2004 14:39 GMT Hey Eileen! Killfile him if he bothers you, or anyone else on this group, but I just want to know why you find that insulting? I mean, yeah, it's a generic, pre-programmed bit of advice, but it usually works, and he didn't call you any names or anything . . . I don't get it.
> I don't insult that easily.... > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > > > Becky P.
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Eileen Dougal - 13 Mar 2004 19:45 GMT Luna, Insulting? I was just trying to be as 'funny' to him as his message was to me... Most people would also take it as an insult to be told to quit eating so much when they don't eat that much at all... But since you all warned me about him, no.... I'm not insulted at all. Just wondering what he (or she) is even doing on this newsgroup if their main intention is just to irritate people instead of helping them.
Eileen
> Hey Eileen! Killfile him if he bothers you, or anyone else on this group, > but I just want to know why you find that insulting? I mean, yeah, it's a [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws. Kalish - 13 Mar 2004 20:25 GMT >about him, no.... I'm not insulted at all. Just wondering what he (or she) It?
>is even doing on this newsgroup if their main intention is just to irritate >people instead of helping them. It has no life...s/he/it is good for a laugh once in awhile - if you killfile it, the number of posts in the newsgroup would be reduced by 50% and then what would do for a yuck? - it spends a great deal of its time here, apparently.
revek - 14 Mar 2004 00:55 GMT Eileen Dougal burbled across the ether:
> Just wondering what he (or she) is even doing on this newsgroup if > their main intention is just to irritate people instead of helping > them. To get ripped. He's a bodybuilder in his spare time who wants to get that last few percent of bodyfat that he can off and uses lowcarb to do it. He has never had a real weight problem, so far as I know. He amuses himself by correcting us sad WFFID (whiny fat f*ks in denial). The rest of his time is taken teaching algebra to 15 year olds who are too self absorbed. Enough said, don't you think?
 Signature revek www.geocities.com/tanirevek/LowCarb.html lowcarbing since June 2002 5'2" 41 F 165+/too much/size seven petite please Forecast for tonight: Dark
Stargazer - 12 Mar 2004 12:12 GMT > Hi everyone, > I came across this newsgroup tonight while I was getting depressed [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > Maybe some other Atkins dieters out there can give me a few pointers. > Thanks for listening. And thanks for this group. It's normal, really - especially for women. I've been on Atkins since last April (5'7", started at 192, am now at 147 as of this morning), and my weight loss was never steady, it was always stair-step (lose 2-4lbs, then stay the same for about 3 weeks, then lose some more, etc). But usually even during the 'no-loss' weeks, I could still feel some difference in my clothes. I also hit a three-month plateau at 151, though I kind of expected that because the 150-160 range was always a plateau for me in the past too (and this was the first time I actually made it _past_ that, <g>). Now I'm losing again, though a little more slowly than before - but being near goal I expected that. I'm eating between 35-45g per day, and around 1500-1800 calories.
Also, I noticed that usually right before I'd see a good loss, I'd first see a gain of about a pound or two for a couple of days prior. So give it some more time - you should be able to eat 30g and still lose. You might also consider putting a week's worth of meals into a calculator/journal like FitDay (www.fitday.com, it's free online) and take a look at how what you're eating breaks out. Sometimes you can be taking in more calories and/or carbs than you realize (and sometimes a lot less, too - I was surprised at the end of one day to see that I'd only eaten 800 cals when I certainly hadn't felt like I'd eaten that little).
I actually found the lack of weight change in either direction during the no-loss times somewhat encouraging, myself. Mainly because prior to LC, it wasn't uncommon for me to see swings of 5 pounds either way over the course of any given week (fluid gain/loss I'm sure, but my weight seemed to always be fluctuating even when I wasn't near my period). After LC, my weight stayed pretty steady during the times I wasn't losing by the scale, which was in its own way encouraging to me. Just remember that every pound not regained is a pound you'll never have to lose again!!
Give it another month at 30g and see if you don't lose again during that time. Once you find out what your weight-loss pattern is, then you'll know when to expect to see a loss - and it may well be on a monthly basis rather than a weekly one. But any loss is still a loss - and to see a loss of 4 pounds over a month is just as good as to see 1 pound a week, <g>.
Stargazer Atkins since Apr '03 192/147/140
AmyB - 12 Mar 2004 13:54 GMT > > Hi everyone, > > I came across this newsgroup tonight while I was getting depressed [quoted text clipped - 68 lines] > Atkins since Apr '03 > 192/147/140 Yes, what everyone has said. ^^^^
And welcome to the group. There is a wealth of knowledge and motivation here. ASDLC has helped me a whole lot and it can be alot of fun too. The trolls here are especially entertaining, but with all the salt you need to take with them one is bound to gain water ;)
Hang in there and good luck.
-- AmyB LC since 12/01/03 238/211/165
Eileen Dougal - 13 Mar 2004 06:48 GMT Stargazer: I really needed your encouragement. Thanks. If you're eating 35-45 grams per day, how do you do the calculation for the 1500-1800 calories? I'll take your advice and try 30 grams for another month to see how it goes but for some reason, I just think I am 'overeating'!
Amy: Thanks for the welcome. Do you do LC or Atkins or is it all the same or does it not matter?
Ignoramus: I do not eat any 'fake' LC foods. I don't buy anything packaged, if that's what you mean, other than Atkins Endulge ice cream at 3 net carbs per serving. (and that I only have 2-3 times a week). For drinks, I only drink water, Diet Rite cola (because of no aspertame) and decaf coffee. I don't have periods anymore since I've had a hysterectomy and as far as exercise.... Well, I have an office/sit down job so don't get ANY exercise during the day at all. After work, I try to walk, even if only a half mile, but try to get in a mile. I know I should probably get some aerobic in there? but I am always so tired after work.
Thanks, everyone , for being here in this group. This is going to save me from throwing in the towel.
Eileen
> > Hi everyone, > > I came across this newsgroup tonight while I was getting depressed [quoted text clipped - 68 lines] > Atkins since Apr '03 > 192/147/140 JC Der Koenig - 13 Mar 2004 11:59 GMT Atkins ice cream is fake food.
 Signature Most of us probably aren't in danger of eating too little. :)
Becky P.
> Stargazer: I really needed your encouragement. Thanks. If you're eating > 35-45 grams per day, how do you do the calculation for the 1500-1800 [quoted text clipped - 108 lines] > > Atkins since Apr '03 > > 192/147/140 Pamsta - 13 Mar 2004 12:48 GMT Hello Eileen!
I have been lc since Feb 030 and lost approx 50 lbs, and feel great. Do you have a curves near you? I started working out there in August and it works well with my busy schedule. It is an all over resistance training/aerobic workout that takes only about 30 minutes and I usually do it after work on my way home (or to a boosters meeting
:-)). I go Saturdays when I can (on my way this morning) and between losing the weight I have so far, and working out, I feel 20 years younger and 200% better than I did prior to Feb 03. Check it out and let me know what you think!
The power of exercise is magical!
I plan on dusting off the old mountain bike this spring and hitting the trails. FYI I am 44 and still need to lose considerable weight.
Pam
Eileen Dougal - 13 Mar 2004 19:48 GMT Hi Pam, No, I do not have a Curves where I live. (And I am not one to join a gym, like Gold's) Went in there once and looked like a 'pick up place' for younger people. I have some DVD workouts that are pretty good and do those on the weekends. Then just do the walking during the week.
Eileen
> Hello Eileen! > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Pam Stargazer - 13 Mar 2004 13:25 GMT > Stargazer: I really needed your encouragement. Thanks. If you're eating > 35-45 grams per day, how do you do the calculation for the 1500-1800 > calories? I'll take your advice and try 30 grams for another month to see > how it goes but for some reason, I just think I am 'overeating'! Actually I let Fitday do all the calculations, <g>. I didn't count calories for most of the time I've been on Atkins, either - because I was losing by just counting carbs and didn't feel like I needed to also track calories. I started tracking them last month mainly from curiosity, to see how many calories I was getting on average and to see where they were coming from (what the breakdown percentage was). I also felt like I was overeating when I first started Atkins, mostly because I was eating more regularly than before - forcing myself to eat breakfast, lunch and dinner where often I skipped one (or sometimes even two) meals before LC. If you're coming from most lowfat plans where portion control was a big issue, then it is very easy to convince yourself that you're overeating because you may be eating more (by volume) than before. Fitday will give you a good idea whether you're really overeating or not, though - because calories are still the best yardstick to measure that with. It is possible to get too many calories while eating LC, it's just generally more difficult to do than it is with low-fat.
Here's an entry for me pulled out of Fitday, for cals/percentages: 1540 total cal; 87g fat (50%, 780 cal), 55g carbs (22g fiber, 9%, 145 cals), 155g protein (40%, 621 cals - that's actually more protein than is recommended as optimal, but some days I do get more than others. Usually from having a whey or soy protein shake sometime during the day). Their calculator isn't perfect because the percentages only add up to 99 and the cals when added up in reverse come to 1546, but it's close enough, <g>. I also have some days where my calories have gone beyond 1800 (though none higher than 2300), and some days where they were below 1500. 1500 to 1800 is just the overall average for me, and what I aim for generally.
LC has been a true godsend for me - this is the first time since my early 20's that I've weighed this little. At age 25 I weighed 170, and from then to now (age 36) I pretty much stayed there or higher (with the occasional loss down to 155-160 via severe calorie restriction, which I could never maintain for more than a few months). So before starting Atkins I didn't think it'd ever be possible for me to weigh what I weigh now AND _stay_ there. I started last year as a size 18W (and about to grow out of that, they were getting too tight), and am now a very comfortable size 10 and about to be into an 8 (I can fit into the size 8 slacks I've bought, zip them up, but they are still a bit tight. I figure another month or two will see me into them comfortably).
I enjoy the foods I eat and don't ever feel the least bit 'deprived'. You can put pasta in front of me now and it doesn't tempt me at all (where it was a staple food for me before). There's a few breads (yeast rolls and English muffins especially) that I still find somewhat tempting, but not enough so that I've *ever* given in to eating them, even when I had them right in front of me - and that's going on a year now. DaVinci sugar-free syrups added to things (coffee, water, etc) takes care of my desire for something sweet when that hits, without adding either carbs or calories (they're made with Splenda, no sugar alcohols, and are available online at www.netrition.com). Or sometimes just hot herbal tea (I like Bigelow peach and Lipton cinnamon-apple, with a little Splenda) hits the spot too.
Wishing you the best - just remember that you didn't gain all this weight in a short amount of time, so you're not going to lose it all in a short amount of time either. The real success IMO isn't in the losing anyway - it's in keeping off what you've lost. I've succeeded in losing the same 20-30 pounds probably at least ten times - but my success in losing it has been rendered completely meaningless every time it hasn't stayed off.
Stargazer Atkins since Apr '03 192/147/140
Eileen Dougal - 13 Mar 2004 19:58 GMT Stargazer, Thanks for the input. I really hope I get to the day when I am not tempted by pasta anymore, like you have. It really was a staple food for me before. I only gained my weight after I quit smoking a couple years ago. Prior to that, I was only about 10 lbs overweight. Since quitting smoking, I have gained about 40 lbs. At 5'9", 150 lbs is my ideal weight. Anything less and I look too thin.
You cannot buy those Da Vinci syrups in stores anywhere?
Eileen
> > Stargazer: I really needed your encouragement. Thanks. If you're > eating [quoted text clipped - 64 lines] > Atkins since Apr '03 > 192/147/140 Stargazer - 13 Mar 2004 20:45 GMT > Stargazer, > Thanks for the input. I really hope I get to the day when I am not [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > You cannot buy those Da Vinci syrups in stores anywhere? Congrats on quitting smoking!! I think that's probably harder than staying on LC, myself.
As to the Da Vinci - no, I personally can't buy them in stores anywhere. But that doesn't mean no stores anywhere carry them, just that none where I am carry them, <g>. Seems like others here have mentioned seeing them in stores (you could Google the group and probably get more info), but that the available flavor selection wasn't nearly as good as online - i.e. the store might have 3-5 flavors, where online you can get the full range (seems like there's about 40 flavors total). I would also suspect that even with shipping (Netrition's shipping is very reasonable), you can probably get them online more cheaply than in person as well.
Stargazer Atkins since Apr '03 192/147/140
Ignoramus28275 - 12 Mar 2004 14:23 GMT > Hi everyone, > I came across this newsgroup tonight while I was getting depressed [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > am 5'9") I lost 7 lbs the first week and 3 lbs the second week. I lost zero > during week 3 and 4. . (very discouraged). that is not abnormal at all.
>There is no way I expected to > lose 5 lbs weekly of course but it would be nice to drop an occassional > OUNCE every few days...No? Surely it would be nice to magically become thin, healthy, and beautiful, yes. But life does not work this way, as you have to put forth an effort and see fluctuations.
> I was just thinking tonight that maybe Atkins is not the diet for > me. Everyone I know who is on it, continues to lose weight, even if > it is just a pound a week. Why would I have lost so much in the > first 14 days and lost nothing in the next 2 wks? This is not at all unusual to stall after induction.
Just in case, an you post a complete list of all foods and non-water drinks that you consumed in the previous two days. Do you eat any fake low carb labeled foods.
Also, when is your period due, as females are known to bloat before their periods.
> In fact, this past > week, the scale has been teetering between 1-2 lb weight gain but > then goes back down. I finished induction and added only 5 > additional carbs per week after that and it seems as soon as I went > over 20 carbs, that that was the end of my weight loss. Does this > mean I have to stay at 20 carbs daily now in order to see any loss? no
> I hope not. The variety is just not enough for me at 20 carbs. Was > really looking forward to being upped to 30 carbs daily but now I am > beginning to think it is too much? > > Maybe some other Atkins dieters out there can give me a few pointers. > Thanks for listening. And thanks for this group. You have not mentioned at all just how you are exercising.
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Tom - 12 Mar 2004 14:37 GMT Hi Eileen. Welcome to the group. You'll have to give us a little more info on how you are following Atkins'. What are you eating? How much water do you drink? Are you excersizing at all?
Tom 210/185/180
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> Hi everyone, > I came across this newsgroup tonight while I was getting depressed [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > 198/188 > Since Feb.12 Eileen Dougal - 13 Mar 2004 06:58 GMT Tom, I explained in that last message that I don't get much exercise at all. Try to walk at least every other day about a mile. Sometimes I get none whatsoever. I know exercise would help me immensely but finding the time is tough and end of day I am exhausted.
I drink at least a half gallon water daily. I know I am getting enough water. Or should I be drinking more?
For what I eat, here is a sample day for me:
Breakfast: couple eggs scrambled in butter with either 2 slices bacon or 2-3 sausages 2 cups decaf with half packet Splenda in each and 1 T. half and half
Lunch: Salad (lettuce, tomato, cucumber) with small piece chicken breast diet rite cola
Snack: string cheese pork rinds
Dinner: cup au gratin broccoli pork chop or small steak salad sometimes half cup Atkins ice cream for dessert
I do not think I am overeating. I am not stuffing myself but I am not hungry either. When I do get hungry, I try to curb it with a hard boiled egg or two or munch alot on pork rinds. I have tried the Endulge Candy bars and occasionally have one but don't make a habit wanting them daily.
For veggies, I alternate between broccoli, cauliflower, asparagus or green beans. Luncheons are either chicken or tuna fish or left over dinner from night before.
If I am doing something wrong, please let me know, OK?
Thanks, Eileen
> Hi Eileen. Welcome to the group. You'll have to give us a little more info > on how you are following Atkins'. [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > > 198/188 > > Since Feb.12
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