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Eileen Dougal - 12 Mar 2004 08:21 GMT
Hi everyone,
    I came across this newsgroup tonight while I was getting depressed
tonight and considering going OFF the Atkins diet. I think this just may be
what I need for support and to keep me focused.

I started Atkins exactly one month ago today. I originally weighed 198. (I
am 5'9")  I lost 7 lbs the first week and 3 lbs the second week. I lost zero
during week 3 and 4. . (very discouraged). There is no way I expected to
lose 5 lbs weekly of course but it would be nice to drop an occassional
OUNCE every few days...No?  I was just thinking tonight that maybe Atkins is
not the diet for me. Everyone I know who is on it, continues to lose weight,
even if it is just a pound a week. Why would I have lost so much in the
first 14 days and lost nothing in the next 2 wks? In fact, this past week,
the scale has been teetering between 1-2 lb weight gain but then goes back
down. I finished induction and added only 5 additional carbs per week after
that and it seems as soon as I went over 20 carbs, that that was the end of
my weight loss. Does this mean I have to stay at 20 carbs daily now in order
to see any loss? I hope not. The variety is just not enough for me at 20
carbs. Was really looking forward to being upped to 30 carbs daily but now I
am beginning to think it is too much?

Maybe some other Atkins dieters out there can give me a few pointers.
Thanks for listening. And thanks for this group.

Eileen
198/188
Since Feb.12
Jeri - 12 Mar 2004 09:20 GMT
> Hi everyone,
>      I came across this newsgroup tonight while I was getting
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> Maybe some other Atkins dieters out there can give me a few pointers.
> Thanks for listening. And thanks for this group.

Welcome to ASDLC and low carb Eileen. You've gotten a great start!
Don't get discouraged! It's very common to have a pause in weight loss for a
few weeks after induction. Just keep doing what you're doing. I would
suggest you stay at 25 until you start losing again then try 30 and so on.
Make sure to add some exercise if you haven't already.

The weight fluctuation you're seeing is water so don't be alarmed. In order
to gain a pound of fat you'd need to eat ~3500 calories more than you burn.
Eating something salty can be enough to add a couple pounds of water for a
few days. Also, at that time of the month, you may have the extra added
'bonus' of hormone fluctuations that can result in a 5+ pound weight gain
caused by water retention.

Keep on keeping on and the weight will start coming off again.  :o)
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Jeri
265/189/120
Atkins since 11/5/01
"Whether you think you can or think you can't, you're right."
--Henry Ford

Eileen Dougal - 13 Mar 2004 06:26 GMT
Thanks, Jeri for the welcome and the encouragement.  I was going to answer
everyone in this one message but have to go back and read the others. This
may be a dumb message  but what does your 265/189/120 mean?  Sound like
maybe what you started at and what you are now? Or what you want to be?
Sorry I sound this dumb but I have never belonged to a dieters support
group.

I figured most of my weight loss the first week would be water. Thanks for
confirming that. I don't eat any salt at all now though because I do not
want to retain water.

Eileen

> > Hi everyone,
> >      I came across this newsgroup tonight while I was getting
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> "Whether you think you can or think you can't, you're right."
> --Henry Ford
Saffire - 12 Mar 2004 10:33 GMT
> Hi everyone,
>      I came across this newsgroup tonight while I was getting depressed
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> carbs. Was really looking forward to being upped to 30 carbs daily but now I
> am beginning to think it is too much?

Hi Eileen, welcome to the group!

What you are experiencing is perfectly NORMAL.  During the first two weeks, you
lose a LOT of water.  Each molecule of emergency glycogen in the liver is bound
to about 4-5 molecules of water.  As you use up that glycogen during induction,
the water is shed.  You probably ALSO lost some fat, but MOST of that was water.  
It seems to be VERY common for weight loss to slow dramatically or stop
completely around the 3rd week as the body adjusts to burning fat for energy
instead of glycogen.  

I lost 7 lbs during induction and then didn't lose any for another 10 days.  Even
then I lost very slowly compared to many other people.  I DID lose, however.  
Also, the heavier a person is, the faster they tend to lose at first.  The less
weight you have to lose, the slower the loss generally is.  1-2 lbs per week
seems to be average.  My pattern seems to be 2-4 lbs per month, and I often go
two weeks without losing, or even GAINING a couple.  Well, except over the last
month or so where I've been losing more rapidly because I cut my calories to
1300-1500 per day -- I've lost 12 lbs in the last 2 months since I started doing
that.  Just stay the course and you WILL lose.  

There are a lot of things that could slow down weight loss.  For one thing, PMS
can have an effect.  Many people find that aspartame stalls them.  There is an
ongoing debate here about "net carbs" in things like low carb bars & shakes.  
MANY people find that these will stall them and aren't worth it.  One theory is
that if you have gastric problems from eating them, then you aren't absorbing
much of the sugar alcohols in them -- instead you are stuck on the toilet or
suffering from EXPLOSIVE gas; if you DON'T have any gastric distress from eating
them, then you are probably ABSORBING the sugar alcohols and therefore are
getting WAY more carbs than the "net carbs" touted on the label.  

If you aren't doing so yet, now is the time to think about starting an exercise
program.  It's not REQUIRED, but the benefits can be ENORMOUS!  For one thing,
the added muscle burns more fat simply by maintaining them.  I think I look about
15 lbs lighter now than I did at the SAME weight about 7 years ago because I've
been working out, mostly via an exercise bike and resistance training with a Body
by Jake Total Body Trainer.  I have a LOT of physical problems, but somehow I've
managed to keep working out and am SOOOO glad I've been able to do it -- I REALLY
surprised myself because I didn't think I COULD do it.

And last, but not least, calories DO count.  The beauty of low-carb is that most
people tend to feel satisfied with less, mostly due to the extra fat and protein,
so they tend not to overeat.  The rule of thumb is to eat 10-12 times your
CURRENT body weight in calories, so if you are 198, try not to go over 1980
calories per day.  If you find that you STILL don't lose weight at that level,
then try 8-9 times you body weight.  

I've been low-carbing since last June.  I FEEL so much better that I have NO
plans to go back to the way I was eating before, even when I DO reach my target
weight!  I've lost 39.5 lbs and LOOK a HELL of a lot better too (see URL in sig
for progress photos).  Keep reading here and posting -- the information and
inspiration here is INVALUABLE!  IGNORE JC Der Koenig, one of the resident trolls
-- he WILL insult you (he may have already done so before I could even send
this).  He LOVES angry responses, so don't give him the satisfaction.  

Trust me, if *I* can do this, just about ANYONE can, so hang in there :-)

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Saffire
205/166/125  -  5'2.5"
Atkins since 6/14/03
Progress photo:  http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333

Eileen Dougal - 13 Mar 2004 06:32 GMT
Saffire,
  Yes, I do have gastric distress from sugar alcohols...(By the way, what
EXACTLY are sugar alcohols?)  But you know what is really surprising me?
I've read quite a few posts on here and did not realize that the calorie
intake was as important as the carb counting. I just 'assumed' if I am
staying at 25 carbs, then I have to lose weight. So, I should be counting
calories as well as carbs? Boy, just when I thought I had my carb counting
down to an art, now I have to start looking up calories, etc. LOL.  Are we
supposed to look for just calories in general or calories from fat, etc?
Seems like I have alot to learn from this group so hope you don't mind if I
ask a thousand questions.

Thanks,
Eileen
> > Hi everyone,
> >      I came across this newsgroup tonight while I was getting depressed
[quoted text clipped - 78 lines]
> Atkins since 6/14/03
> Progress photo:  http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333
Saffire - 13 Mar 2004 10:01 GMT
> Saffire,
>    Yes, I do have gastric distress from sugar alcohols...(By the way, what
> EXACTLY are sugar alcohols?)  But you know what is really surprising me?

I'll let someone else field that in a more scientific manner than I would :-)

> I've read quite a few posts on here and did not realize that the calorie
> intake was as important as the carb counting. I just 'assumed' if I am
> staying at 25 carbs, then I have to lose weight. So, I should be counting
> calories as well as carbs? Boy, just when I thought I had my carb counting
> down to an art, now I have to start looking up calories, etc. LOL.  Are we

Well, for some people it's not as important, especially in the beginning, but for
ME it certainly seems to be an issue.  

> supposed to look for just calories in general or calories from fat, etc?

I've seen different recommendations from different people, but the average seems
to be about 60-70% fat, 10% carbs and 30-40% protein.  Your needs can vary
depending on your activity level.  Me, I try to make sure I eat MORE fat than my
brain is inclined to think is healthy, a decent amount of protein, and up to
about 35-45 grams of carbs per day.  I've resisted adding carbs all along because
of my slow loss, but I've lost at a more rapid pace not only since cutting
calories, but also since UPPING the carbs.  Maybe it's a combination of the two
that seems to be accelerating it.  I started my period today, but I've STILL lost
2 lbs DURING PMS instead of GAINING -- normally I gain 2-3 lbs during PMS and I
don't even get back to where I WAS until several days AFTER my period ENDS.  I
haven't changed my exercise methods or schedule, so I'm leaning toward the
combination of the two.  WhatEVER -- I'm losing at a faster clip now (FINALLY)
and I LIKE it :-)  

> Seems like I have alot to learn from this group so hope you don't mind if I
> ask a thousand questions.

That's what we're here for (some more than others :-)

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Saffire
205/166/125  -  5'2.5"
Atkins since 6/14/03
Progress photo:  http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333

revek - 14 Mar 2004 00:50 GMT
Saffire  burbled across the ether:
>> Saffire,
>>    Yes, I do have gastric distress from sugar alcohols...(By the
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> I'll let someone else field that in a more scientific manner than I
> would :-)

Sugar alcohols are chemically defined as saccharide derivatives in which
a ketone or aldehyde group is replaced by a hydroxyl group (1).They are
classified according to the number of saccharide units present in the
molecule.  Sorbitol, mannitol and xylitol are monosaccharides derived
from glucose, mannose and xylose, respectively. They are naturally
present in small amounts in some fruits and vegetables and are
commercially produced by hydrogenation of glucose, mannose and xylose.
Maltitol and lactitol are disaccharides derived from hydrogenation of
maltose and lactose, respectively. Isomalt (also known as palatinit) is
a 1:1 mixture of alpha-D-glucopyranosyl-[1-6]-D-sorbitol (GPS) and
alpha-D-glucopyranosyl-[1-6]-D-mannitol (GPM). Oligoand polysaccharide
sugar alcohols are derived from hydrogenated starch hydrolysates (HSHs)
(2), although these compounds are often not included in discussions
about sugar alcohols.

Howzat?
In any case, sugar alcohols got their name because they are like sugar
molecules in some ways and also like alcohol molecules in other ways,
but aren't either one.  They are sweet tasting chemical compounds that
are different than either, but the chemical name can be off putting so
the marketers came up with something that doesn't sound so frightening
to the layperson who doesn't usually remember that *all* molecules are
chemicals and even water can sound horrid if you use it's chemical
name-- dihydromonoxide.

http://www.gumbopages.com/fridge/dmho.html

http://www.dhmo.org/

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revek   www.geocities.com/tanirevek/LowCarb.html  lowcarbing since June
           2002 5'2" 41 F  165+/too much/size seven petite please
In the beginning was the word. And the word was "Aardvark".

JC Der Koenig - 12 Mar 2004 11:29 GMT
Quit eating so much and start doing more exercise.

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Most of us probably aren't in danger of eating too little. :)

Becky P.

> Hi everyone,
>      I came across this newsgroup tonight while I was getting depressed
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> 198/188
> Since Feb.12
Eileen Dougal - 13 Mar 2004 06:34 GMT
I don't insult that easily....

> Quit eating so much and start doing more exercise.
>
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> > 198/188
> > Since Feb.12
Saffire - 13 Mar 2004 09:41 GMT
> > Quit eating so much and start doing more exercise.

> I don't insult that easily....

What'd I tell you?  Is he predictable or what?

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Saffire
205/166/125  -  5'2.5"
Atkins since 6/14/03
Progress photo:  http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333

JC Der Koenig - 13 Mar 2004 12:01 GMT
That wasn't an insult. If I were to write that you should stop shoving so
much crap into your fat piehole, you obese WFFID, then that might be
considered an insult, even thought it's probably true.

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Most of us probably aren't in danger of eating too little. :)

Becky P.

> I don't insult that easily....
>
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> > > 198/188
> > > Since Feb.12
Luna - 13 Mar 2004 14:39 GMT
Hey Eileen!  Killfile him if he bothers you, or anyone else on this group,
but I just want to know why you find that insulting?  I mean, yeah, it's a
generic, pre-programmed bit of advice, but it usually works, and he didn't
call you any names or anything . . . I don't get it.  

> I don't insult that easily....
>
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> >
> > Becky P.

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I have only 3 flaws.  My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

Eileen Dougal - 13 Mar 2004 19:45 GMT
Luna,
Insulting?  I was just trying to be as 'funny' to him as his message was to
me... Most people would also take it as an insult to be told to quit eating
so much when they don't eat that much at all... But since you all warned me
about him, no.... I'm not insulted at all. Just wondering what he (or she)
is even doing on this newsgroup if their main intention is just to irritate
people instead of helping them.

Eileen

> Hey Eileen!  Killfile him if he bothers you, or anyone else on this group,
> but I just want to know why you find that insulting?  I mean, yeah, it's a
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> I have only 3 flaws.  My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.
Kalish - 13 Mar 2004 20:25 GMT
>about him, no.... I'm not insulted at all. Just wondering what he (or she)

  It?

>is even doing on this newsgroup if their main intention is just to irritate
>people instead of helping them.

 It has no life...s/he/it is good for a laugh once in awhile - if you
killfile it, the number of posts in the newsgroup would be reduced by
50% and then what would do for a yuck?   - it spends a great deal of
its time here, apparently.
revek - 14 Mar 2004 00:55 GMT
Eileen Dougal  burbled across the ether:
> Just wondering what he (or she) is even doing on this newsgroup if
> their main intention is just to irritate people instead of helping
> them.

To get ripped.  He's a bodybuilder in his spare time who wants to get
that last few percent of bodyfat that he can off and uses lowcarb to do
it.  He has never had a real weight problem, so far as I know.  He
amuses himself by correcting us sad WFFID (whiny fat f*ks in denial).
The rest of his time is taken teaching algebra to 15 year olds who are
too self absorbed.  Enough said, don't you think?

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revek   www.geocities.com/tanirevek/LowCarb.html  lowcarbing since June
           2002 5'2" 41 F  165+/too much/size seven petite please
Forecast for tonight: Dark

Stargazer - 12 Mar 2004 12:12 GMT
> Hi everyone,
>      I came across this newsgroup tonight while I was getting depressed
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> Maybe some other Atkins dieters out there can give me a few pointers.
> Thanks for listening. And thanks for this group.

It's normal, really - especially for women.  I've been on Atkins since last
April (5'7", started at 192, am now at 147 as of this morning), and my
weight loss was never steady, it was always stair-step (lose 2-4lbs, then
stay the same for about 3 weeks, then lose some more, etc).  But usually
even during the 'no-loss' weeks, I could still feel some difference in my
clothes.  I also hit a three-month plateau at 151, though I kind of expected
that because the 150-160 range was always a plateau for me in the past too
(and this was the first time I actually made it _past_ that, <g>).  Now I'm
losing again, though a little more slowly than before - but being near goal
I expected that.  I'm eating between 35-45g per day, and around 1500-1800
calories.

Also, I noticed that usually right before I'd see a good loss, I'd first see
a gain of about a pound or two for a couple of days prior.  So give it some
more time - you should be able to eat 30g and still lose.  You might also
consider putting a week's worth of meals into a calculator/journal like
FitDay (www.fitday.com, it's free online) and take a look at how what you're
eating breaks out.  Sometimes you can be taking in more calories and/or
carbs than you realize (and sometimes a lot less, too - I was surprised at
the end of one day to see that I'd only eaten 800 cals when I certainly
hadn't felt like I'd eaten that little).

I actually found the lack of weight change in either direction during the
no-loss times somewhat encouraging, myself.  Mainly because prior to LC, it
wasn't uncommon for me to see swings of 5 pounds either way over the course
of any given week (fluid gain/loss I'm sure, but my weight seemed to always
be fluctuating even when I wasn't near my period).  After LC, my weight
stayed pretty steady during the times I wasn't losing by the scale, which
was in its own way encouraging to me.  Just remember that every pound not
regained is a pound you'll never have to lose again!!

Give it another month at 30g and see if you don't lose again during that
time.  Once you find out what your weight-loss pattern is, then you'll know
when to expect to see a loss - and it may well be on a monthly basis rather
than a weekly one.  But any loss is still a loss - and to see a loss of 4
pounds over a month is just as good as to see 1 pound a week, <g>.

Stargazer
Atkins since Apr '03
192/147/140
AmyB - 12 Mar 2004 13:54 GMT
> > Hi everyone,
> >      I came across this newsgroup tonight while I was getting depressed
[quoted text clipped - 68 lines]
> Atkins since Apr '03
> 192/147/140

Yes, what everyone has said. ^^^^

And welcome to the group.  There is a wealth of knowledge and motivation
here.  ASDLC has helped me a whole lot and it can be alot of fun too.  The
trolls here are especially entertaining, but with all the salt you need to
take with them one is bound to gain water ;)

Hang in there and good luck.

--
AmyB
LC since 12/01/03
238/211/165
Eileen Dougal - 13 Mar 2004 06:48 GMT
Stargazer:     I really needed your encouragement. Thanks. If you're eating
35-45 grams per day, how do you do the calculation for the 1500-1800
calories? I'll take your advice and try 30 grams for another month to see
how it goes but for some reason, I just think I am 'overeating'!

Amy:    Thanks for the welcome.  Do you do LC or Atkins or is it all the
same or does it not matter?

Ignoramus:   I do not eat any 'fake' LC foods.  I don't buy anything
packaged, if that's what you mean, other than Atkins Endulge ice cream at 3
net carbs per serving. (and that I only have 2-3 times a week). For drinks,
I only drink water, Diet Rite cola (because of no aspertame) and decaf
coffee. I don't have periods anymore since I've had a hysterectomy and as
far as exercise.... Well, I have an office/sit down job so don't get ANY
exercise during the day at all. After work, I try to walk, even if only a
half mile, but try to get in a mile. I know I should probably get some
aerobic in there? but I am always so tired after work.

Thanks, everyone , for being here in this group. This is going to save me
from throwing in the towel.

Eileen

> > Hi everyone,
> >      I came across this newsgroup tonight while I was getting depressed
[quoted text clipped - 68 lines]
> Atkins since Apr '03
> 192/147/140
JC Der Koenig - 13 Mar 2004 11:59 GMT
Atkins ice cream is fake food.

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Most of us probably aren't in danger of eating too little. :)

Becky P.

> Stargazer:     I really needed your encouragement. Thanks. If you're eating
> 35-45 grams per day, how do you do the calculation for the 1500-1800
[quoted text clipped - 108 lines]
> > Atkins since Apr '03
> > 192/147/140
Pamsta - 13 Mar 2004 12:48 GMT
Hello Eileen!

I have been lc since Feb 030 and lost approx 50 lbs, and feel great.
Do you have a curves near you? I started working out there in August
and it works well with my busy schedule. It is an all over resistance
training/aerobic workout that takes only about 30 minutes and I
usually do it after work on my way home (or to a boosters meeting
:-)).

I go Saturdays when I can (on my way this morning) and between losing
the weight I have so far, and working out, I feel 20 years younger and
200% better than I did prior to Feb 03. Check it out and let me know
what you think!

The power of exercise is magical!

I plan on dusting off the old mountain bike this spring and hitting
the trails. FYI I am 44 and still need to lose considerable weight.

Pam
Eileen Dougal - 13 Mar 2004 19:48 GMT
Hi Pam,
 No, I do not have a Curves where I live. (And I am not one to join a gym,
like Gold's)  Went in there once and looked like a 'pick up place' for
younger people.  I have some DVD workouts that are pretty good and do those
on the weekends. Then just do the walking during the week.

Eileen

> Hello Eileen!
>
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>
> Pam
Stargazer - 13 Mar 2004 13:25 GMT
> Stargazer:     I really needed your encouragement. Thanks. If you're eating
> 35-45 grams per day, how do you do the calculation for the 1500-1800
> calories? I'll take your advice and try 30 grams for another month to see
> how it goes but for some reason, I just think I am 'overeating'!

Actually I let Fitday do all the calculations, <g>.  I didn't count calories
for most of the time I've been on Atkins, either - because I was losing by
just counting carbs and didn't feel like I needed to also track calories.  I
started tracking them last month mainly from curiosity, to see how many
calories I was getting on average and to see where they were coming from
(what the breakdown percentage was).  I also felt like I was overeating when
I first started Atkins, mostly because I was eating more regularly than
before - forcing myself to eat breakfast, lunch and dinner where often I
skipped one (or sometimes even two) meals before LC.  If you're coming from
most lowfat plans where portion control was a big issue, then it is very
easy to convince yourself that you're overeating because you may be eating
more (by volume) than before.  Fitday will give you a good idea whether
you're really overeating or not, though - because calories are still the
best yardstick to measure that with.  It is possible to get too many
calories while eating LC, it's just generally more difficult to do than it
is with low-fat.

Here's an entry for me pulled out of Fitday, for cals/percentages:  1540
total cal; 87g fat (50%, 780 cal), 55g carbs (22g fiber, 9%, 145 cals), 155g
protein (40%, 621 cals - that's actually more protein than is recommended as
optimal, but some days I do get more than others.  Usually from having a
whey or soy protein shake sometime during the day).  Their calculator isn't
perfect because the percentages only add up to 99 and the cals when added up
in reverse come to 1546, but it's close enough, <g>.  I also have some days
where my calories have gone beyond 1800 (though none higher than 2300), and
some days where they were below 1500.  1500 to 1800 is just the overall
average for me, and what I aim for generally.

LC has been a true godsend for me - this is the first time since my early
20's that I've weighed this little.  At age 25 I weighed 170, and from then
to now (age 36) I pretty much stayed there or higher (with the occasional
loss down to 155-160 via severe calorie restriction, which I could never
maintain for more than a few months).  So before starting Atkins I didn't
think it'd ever be possible for me to weigh what I weigh now AND _stay_
there.  I started last year as a size 18W (and about to grow out of that,
they were getting too tight), and am now a very comfortable size 10 and
about to be into an 8 (I can fit into the size 8 slacks I've bought, zip
them up, but they are still a bit tight.  I figure another month or two will
see me into them comfortably).

I enjoy the foods I eat and don't ever feel the least bit 'deprived'.  You
can put pasta in front of me now and it doesn't tempt me at all (where it
was a staple food for me before).   There's a few breads (yeast rolls and
English muffins especially) that I still find somewhat tempting, but not
enough so that I've *ever* given in to eating them, even when I had them
right in front of me - and that's going on a year now.  DaVinci sugar-free
syrups added to things (coffee, water, etc) takes care of my desire for
something sweet when that hits, without adding either carbs or calories
(they're made with Splenda, no sugar alcohols, and are available online at
www.netrition.com).  Or sometimes just hot herbal tea (I like Bigelow peach
and Lipton cinnamon-apple, with a little Splenda) hits the spot too.

Wishing you the best - just remember that you didn't gain all this weight in
a short amount of time, so you're not going to lose it all in a short amount
of time either.  The real success IMO isn't in the losing anyway - it's in
keeping off what you've lost.  I've succeeded in losing the same 20-30
pounds probably at least ten times - but my success in losing it has been
rendered completely meaningless every time it hasn't stayed off.

Stargazer
Atkins since Apr '03
192/147/140
Eileen Dougal - 13 Mar 2004 19:58 GMT
Stargazer,
 Thanks for the input.  I really hope I get to the day when I am not
tempted by pasta anymore, like you have. It really was a staple food for me
before.  I only gained my weight after I quit smoking a couple years ago.
Prior to that, I was only about 10 lbs overweight. Since quitting smoking, I
have gained about 40 lbs. At 5'9",  150 lbs is my ideal weight. Anything
less and I look too thin.

You cannot buy those Da Vinci syrups in stores anywhere?

Eileen

> > Stargazer:     I really needed your encouragement. Thanks. If you're
> eating
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> Atkins since Apr '03
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Stargazer - 13 Mar 2004 20:45 GMT
> Stargazer,
>   Thanks for the input.  I really hope I get to the day when I am not
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>
> You cannot buy those Da Vinci syrups in stores anywhere?

Congrats on quitting smoking!!  I think that's probably harder than staying
on LC, myself.

As to the Da Vinci - no, I personally can't buy them in stores anywhere.
But that doesn't mean no stores anywhere carry them, just that none where I
am carry them, <g>.  Seems like others here have mentioned seeing them in
stores (you could Google the group and probably get more info), but that the
available flavor selection wasn't nearly as good as online - i.e. the store
might have 3-5 flavors, where online you can get the full range (seems like
there's about 40 flavors total).  I would also suspect that even with
shipping (Netrition's shipping is very reasonable), you can probably get
them online more cheaply than in person as well.

Stargazer
Atkins since Apr '03
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Ignoramus28275 - 12 Mar 2004 14:23 GMT
> Hi everyone,
>      I came across this newsgroup tonight while I was getting depressed
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> am 5'9")  I lost 7 lbs the first week and 3 lbs the second week. I lost zero
> during week 3 and 4. . (very discouraged).

that is not abnormal at all.

>There is no way I expected to
> lose 5 lbs weekly of course but it would be nice to drop an occassional
> OUNCE every few days...No?

Surely it would be nice to magically become thin, healthy, and
beautiful, yes. But life does not work this way, as you have to put
forth an effort and see fluctuations.

> I was just thinking tonight that maybe Atkins is not the diet for
> me. Everyone I know who is on it, continues to lose weight, even if
> it is just a pound a week. Why would I have lost so much in the
> first 14 days and lost nothing in the next 2 wks?

This is not at all unusual to stall after induction.

Just in case, an you post a complete list of all foods and non-water
drinks that you consumed in the previous two days. Do you eat any fake
low carb labeled foods.

Also, when is your period due, as females are known to bloat before
their periods.

> In fact, this past
> week, the scale has been teetering between 1-2 lb weight gain but
> then goes back down. I finished induction and added only 5
> additional carbs per week after that and it seems as soon as I went
> over 20 carbs, that that was the end of my weight loss. Does this
> mean I have to stay at 20 carbs daily now in order to see any loss?

no

> I hope not. The variety is just not enough for me at 20 carbs. Was
> really looking forward to being upped to 30 carbs daily but now I am
> beginning to think it is too much?
>
> Maybe some other Atkins dieters out there can give me a few pointers.
> Thanks for listening. And thanks for this group.

You have not mentioned at all just how you are exercising.

i
Tom - 12 Mar 2004 14:37 GMT
Hi Eileen. Welcome to the group. You'll have to give us a little more info
on how you are following Atkins'.
   What are you eating?
   How much water do you drink?
   Are you excersizing at all?

     Tom
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> Hi everyone,
>      I came across this newsgroup tonight while I was getting depressed
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Eileen Dougal - 13 Mar 2004 06:58 GMT
Tom,
  I explained in that last message that I don't get much exercise at all.
Try to walk at least every other day about a mile. Sometimes I get none
whatsoever. I know exercise would help me immensely but finding the time is
tough and end of day I am exhausted.

I drink at least a half gallon water daily. I know I am getting enough
water. Or should I be drinking more?

For what I eat, here is a sample day for me:

Breakfast:   couple eggs scrambled in butter with either 2 slices bacon or
2-3 sausages
                  2 cups decaf with half packet Splenda in each and 1 T.
half and half

Lunch:    Salad (lettuce, tomato, cucumber) with small piece chicken breast
              diet rite cola

Snack:     string cheese
               pork rinds

Dinner:     cup au gratin broccoli
               pork chop or small steak
               salad
               sometimes half cup Atkins ice cream for dessert

I do not think I am overeating. I am not stuffing myself but I am not hungry
either. When I do get hungry, I try to curb it with a hard boiled egg or two
or munch alot on pork rinds.  I have tried the Endulge Candy bars and
occasionally have one but don't make a habit wanting them daily.

For veggies, I alternate between broccoli, cauliflower, asparagus or green
beans. Luncheons are either chicken or tuna fish or left over dinner from
night before.

If I am doing something wrong, please let me know, OK?

Thanks,
Eileen

> Hi Eileen. Welcome to the group. You'll have to give us a little more info
> on how you are following Atkins'.
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> > Since Feb.12
 
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