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what on earth are collard greens?

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Supergoof - 13 Mar 2004 05:16 GMT
I often hear these mentioned, but I have no idea what they are!

Rachel
(New Zealand)
revek - 13 Mar 2004 05:25 GMT
Supergoof  burbled across the ether:
> I often hear these mentioned, but I have no idea what they are!
>
> Rachel
> (New Zealand)

http://whatscookingamerica.net/Vegetables/CollardGreens.htm

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tcmedara - 13 Mar 2004 05:25 GMT
> I often hear these mentioned, but I have no idea what they are!
>
> Rachel
> (New Zealand)

I'm not a big fan, but they're okay.  Big in the SE of USA.
Check it out here:  http://tinyurl.com/ypl4v

Tom
revek - 13 Mar 2004 05:27 GMT
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> Tom

Heh.  Same place I went.  Collards is a "green" like kale, but tolerates
warm weather, hence it's popularity in the southern US.

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tcmedara - 13 Mar 2004 05:30 GMT
> Heh.  Same place I went.  Collards is a "green" like kale, but
> tolerates warm weather, hence it's popularity in the southern US.

It's all about Google these days!

I find them a bit bitter to my taste

Tom
revek - 13 Mar 2004 05:32 GMT
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>> Heh.  Same place I went.  Collards is a "green" like kale, but
>> tolerates warm weather, hence it's popularity in the southern US.
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>
> Tom

A mess o' greens doesn't have any character without a bit o' bitterness.
Ever had any poke weed?
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BJPruett - 13 Mar 2004 13:49 GMT
They are a lot like dandelion greens.  The dandelion is a great plant
and the total plant can be used.  The greens are good when picked fresh
and cooked plain or with bacon, and the yellow buds can be used to make
dandelion wine (one of the best drinks around!).

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>Tom
Cailleachschilde - 16 Mar 2004 12:33 GMT
>I find them a bit bitter to my taste
>
>Tom

They're sweeter after the first frost.  You can cook them with chicken broth,
bacon, or fat back to counteract the bitter taste.

I like collards, but then I live in the South.

Yvonne
jamie - 13 Mar 2004 18:18 GMT
>  Collards is a "green" like kale, but tolerates
> warm weather, hence it's popularity in the southern US.

I prefer to blend collard greens, with mustard greens and turnip greens.
HEB started carrying bags of "triple washed" greens, already torn
in pieces and destemmed, so that's a big timesaver in preparation.
They even have bags of all three greens mixed.

I put about an inch of water and a few cubes of salt pork in a large soup
pot, fill it with greens and steam until tender.  Usually I can only fit
about half the greens in at first, and the add other half after about
10 minutes steaming, when the first ones have wilted.

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JJ - 13 Mar 2004 10:21 GMT
I love greens, always have, and am always looking for ways
to enjoy them.
My wife made this over the Christmas holidays, and
repeatedly since then.

It is delicious and very gratifying, especially on the cold
wet days.

Collard Greens Soup

Prep time: 15 minutes
Cooking time: 35 minutes

1 14-oz package smoked sausage cut into 1/4" slices (we used
a low
filler/low carb turkey sausage-kielbasa type, use whatever
suits your fancy)
1 small onion, finely chopped
1 green pepper, seeded and chopped
2-3 slices of bacon
2 32-oz containers light chicken broth (don't skimp on
quality here or make your own good and fresh)
1 bunch of fresh collard greens
1/4 tsp freshly ground black pepper (or to taste)
Dash of hot sauce

Clean the collard greens by removing the thick stems,
chopping into bite
sized pieces then rinsing several times.

Chop up bacon and render the bacon in a Dutch oven or
similar large pot.

Remove the bacon and all but 1tbsp of the bacon fat.

Saut? sausage, onions and green pepper in the Dutch oven
with the fat over
medium-high heat 5 minutes or so, or until lightly browned.

Return the bacon to the pot, add chicken broth, collard
greens, pepper and
hot sauce; bring to a boil.

Cover, reduce heat, and simmer 30 minutes, stirring
occasionally.

As specified this recipe makes 6 servings.

Notes:

Collard greens tend to be very dirty/gritty.  I guess they
can now be
purchased pre-washed and pre-chopped in nice little 16-oz
bags but it is not
too difficult to clean them and they are generally very
inexpensive when you
do the work yourself.

Hot sauce may be omitted or amount increased depending upon
your taste.

Bacon can be omitted and the oil replaced with olive or
other vegetable oil
of your choice.  I like the extra flavor added by the bacon.

I haven't worked out the exact carbs, kind of hard to
because it depends on
sausage selection and actual amount of greens used, size of
onion, etc.

Collard greens, when boiled, without salt, are 9.3g carbs,
with 5.3g fiber
per 1 cup.  I've never measure but it looks to me like one
of those big
bunches of collards cooks down to about 4-5 cups at most.  I
generally serve
myself about 1/2 cup of greens.

The sausage we use says 0 g carb per 2-oz.  I tend to not
believe this (just
by looking at the actual ingredients) so I count it as 1g
per 2-oz, or 7
grams for the amount of sausage specified.

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JJ - 13 Mar 2004 10:25 GMT
Ignore my tag line in this recipe post, I didn't suddenly
put back on 17 pounds overnight ;-)  I just grabbed this
recipe to repost from something long ago and inadvertently
picked up an old tagline.

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Marcusj - 13 Mar 2004 14:52 GMT
Heck, JJ, either that or you lost 17 pounds in 4 minutes between posts!
heh-heh...

I'll have to try your collard greens recipe, it sounds good.
My wife and I have collard greens, mustard greens, turnip greens, and others
with supper sometimes.
We haven't been very imaginative with it, though, and have eaten them right
out of the can, microwaved.
Each time we think, "There must be some way to make these taste better!"
Spinach is great right out of the can, collard greens are another story.  I
love fresh spinach in my salad, but haven't tried fresh collard greens.  In
Colorado it might be hard to find fresh collard greens.

Thanks,
Mark.

> Ignore my tag line in this recipe post, I didn't suddenly
> put back on 17 pounds overnight ;-)  I just grabbed this
> recipe to repost from something long ago and inadvertently
> picked up an old tagline.
JJ - 13 Mar 2004 15:04 GMT
> Heck, JJ, either that or you lost 17 pounds in 4 minutes between
> posts! heh-heh...

Either way, it would be remarkably unhealthy wouldn't it?

I don't know about fresh collard greens availability in
Colorado but, though I live in Georgia now and have them
readily at hand, I lived in Arizona for 25 years and found
them readily available there as well.  Unlike spinach, which
I love and prefer raw, I'm not sure I could even chew raw
collards.  That recipe would also work just as well with
kale or most any other green, though the cooking time might
vary a bit by the selection of greens.  It is also a great
recipe to start adding a few other carbs back when you are
ready, in the form of legumes.

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Cailleachschilde - 17 Mar 2004 02:37 GMT
>We haven't been very imaginative with it, though, and have eaten them right
>out of the can, microwaved.
>Each time we think, "There must be some way to make these taste better!"

Yes.  Fresh tastes way better.

Yvonne
DigitalVinyl - 13 Mar 2004 15:33 GMT
>I often hear these mentioned, but I have no idea what they are!
>
>Rachel
>(New Zealand)

A loose green leaf thing--like a lettuce or cabbage-technically don't
know..

I had them once in a southern Restaurant (Jezebel's NYCity). They were
really good. Of course - who knows how they seasoned them.
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Supergoof - 13 Mar 2004 23:45 GMT
> I often hear these mentioned, but I have no idea what they are!

Thanks everyone for your answers!

I had thought it was perhaps the US term for what we call 'silverbeet' here,
but though I think silverbeet would be considered a collard green, it's a
term for the whole family of greens.

(and because I know what the next question is ... silverbeet is in the
spinach family, big dark green leaves with white stalks and veins. One of my
favourite vegetables.)

cheers
Rachel
(New Zealand)
revek - 14 Mar 2004 01:06 GMT
Supergoof  burbled across the ether:
> (and because I know what the next question is ... silverbeet is in the
> spinach family, big dark green leaves with white stalks and veins.
> One of my favourite vegetables.)

Sounds yummy.  Can you tell I haven't had dinner yet?

<rotisserie chicken and spinach salad and tea, mmm--m!>

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Priscilla Ballou - 14 Mar 2004 20:48 GMT
> Supergoof  burbled across the ether:
> > (and because I know what the next question is ... silverbeet is in the
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>
> <rotisserie chicken and spinach salad and tea, mmm--m!>

I bought a rotisserie!  I bought a rotisserie!  Hee hee!  :-)

Sorry, but you just reminded me.  I've wanted one for ages, and I found
a George Foreman baby one on sale.  I am one happy camper.  Can you tell?

Do you do the rotissering yourself?  If so, do you use fryers or
roasters?  I'm thinking roasters would be juicier.

Priscilla
revek - 14 Mar 2004 22:17 GMT
Priscilla Ballou  burbled across the ether:
> I bought a rotisserie!  I bought a rotisserie!  Hee hee!  :-)

LOL.

> Sorry, but you just reminded me.  I've wanted one for ages, and I
> found a George Foreman baby one on sale.  I am one happy camper.  Can
> you tell?

Same one as I got.  I like it.  Easy to clean too.

> Do you do the rotissering yourself?  If so, do you use fryers or
> roasters?  I'm thinking roasters would be juicier.

Usually.  However, if you get a roaster, I suggest only 4.5 pounds.  At
5 pounds it's a smidge tight in there and sometimes the legs bump the
coil.

We use twine to wrap around the wings and cross over the legs to hold
the bird in as tightly as possible (with those plastic ties that are
used for everything from cooking to holding boxes together-- the kind
that have a square loop on the end-- to tie the ankles toghether).

Takes about an hour and 15 minutes for a 5 pounder.  But with no spices
or rubs at all it is damn good.

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Priscilla Ballou - 15 Mar 2004 01:17 GMT
> Priscilla Ballou  burbled across the ether:
> > I bought a rotisserie!  I bought a rotisserie!  Hee hee!  :-)
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> Takes about an hour and 15 minutes for a 5 pounder.  But with no spices
> or rubs at all it is damn good.

Hoo boy!  I can't wait for it to get here.  :-)  Thanks for the info.

Priscilla, mouth watering already
lesliemm - 14 Mar 2004 02:19 GMT
> I had thought it was perhaps the US term for what we call 'silverbeet' here,
> but though I think silverbeet would be considered a collard green, it's a
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> Rachel
> (New Zealand)
Sounds more like what we call Swiss chard here in the US.
Leslie in Atlanta
Cookie Cutter - 14 Mar 2004 06:44 GMT
Collards are a type of cabbage.  They originated
from the Middle East Mediterranean area.  The
Romans brought them back to Italy.  The Romans
then took them to Britain.  The English then
brought them to the colonies.

They grow in winter gardens in the southeast US.
The previous poster is right.  They are similar to
kale which is also a type of cabbage.

Cookie

> > I often hear these mentioned, but I have no idea what they are!
>
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> Rachel
> (New Zealand)
Priscilla Ballou - 14 Mar 2004 20:46 GMT
> > I often hear these mentioned, but I have no idea what they are!
>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> spinach family, big dark green leaves with white stalks and veins. One of my
> favourite vegetables.)

Sounds a bit like chard.  I do love leafy greens!  :-)

Priscilla
jpatti - 15 Mar 2004 05:08 GMT
> I had thought it was perhaps the US term for what we call 'silverbeet' here,
> but though I think silverbeet would be considered a collard green, it's a
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> spinach family, big dark green leaves with white stalks and veins. One of my
> favourite vegetables.)

That sounds like what we call chard.  It's related to beets as far as
I know.

There's also varieties that have colored stalks too - I grow those
instead of the white-stalked ones.  I eat the leaves as greens and dry
the stalks as a celery-like addition to soups - much easier to grow
than celery is.

Chard grows nearly year-round, you can even dig it up from under snow.
It's good stuff.
PEPPER1960 - 17 Mar 2004 03:09 GMT
Spinach that has been arrested?
revek - 17 Mar 2004 21:52 GMT
> Spinach that has been arrested?

LOL.  Took me a second, but I got there.  :)

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PEPPER1960 - 17 Mar 2004 22:10 GMT
I just couldn't help it, I had to do it! :-)
Supergoof - 23 Mar 2004 04:48 GMT
> Spinach that has been arrested?

LOL

You're nicked, mate!

Rachel
(New Zealand)
 
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