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Kaye - 13 Mar 2004 22:44 GMT
OK, so I'm not doing so bad.  I've not shouted, screamed or drawn blood
since I last smoked ( I don't like to think of myself as a non-smoker, just
that I don't smoke at the moment).  I did get really really hungry, which I
guess is normal.

The odd thing is what I ate.  I "found" (I just can't accept responsibility
for this) myself eating crunchy nut cornflakes, with milk and chocolate
toffee yoghurt.  Both of wich I do NOT like.

I'm not on a guilt trip, and I know it's normal not  to keep everything in
check when not smoking.  I just find it odd that I choose to feed myself
food that I don't like.

I mean if I had meant it I would have fed myself wholegrain toast with
lashings of butter and marmalade with jasmine petals, or even some home made
chips, or perhaps even both!

Oh well.  How and ever and such is life.

Kaye
(who's jeans fit fine, we don't talk about the bikini though!)
Jean M. - 14 Mar 2004 00:09 GMT
>OK, so I'm not doing so bad.  I've not shouted, screamed or drawn blood
>since I last smoked ( I don't like to think of myself as a non-smoker, just
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>Kaye
>(who's jeans fit fine, we don't talk about the bikini though!)

Good going, Kaye. Do whatever it takes.

I've been chomping on radishes and Klein sf lemon candies, which are
difficult to find right now. I did allow myself some salsa and
toritilla chips the other evening. It was the crave from hell and I
caved. It's gone now and I'm back on track. I'm still not in ketosis,
but I'll worry about that later.

I still think that having my diet under control helps with the
quitting. It's when I fall off my eating plan that I am most tempted
to smoke, like "to hell with it all." That's been my pattern in the
past and I'm more aware of it now.

So kick the guilt out and keep going. You are doing fine. No blood is
good! :-)

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Jean M.
New food of the week: black olives.

Do away with flipfloping to e-mail.
jules - 14 Mar 2004 00:33 GMT
Didn't realise you had quit smoking.  Good luck with it Kaye, it's doable
believe me :o)

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Jules

I want to be the best me possible
> OK, so I'm not doing so bad.  I've not shouted, screamed or drawn blood
> since I last smoked ( I don't like to think of myself as a non-smoker, just
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> Kaye
> (who's jeans fit fine, we don't talk about the bikini though!)
Luna - 14 Mar 2004 06:34 GMT
> OK, so I'm not doing so bad.  I've not shouted, screamed or drawn blood
> since I last smoked ( I don't like to think of myself as a non-smoker, just
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> Kaye
> (who's jeans fit fine, we don't talk about the bikini though!)

I just quit too!  So far, both today and yesterday, I was at work most of
the day so I did what I normally do in order to avoid the popcorn.  I
chewed sugarless gum and crushed ice.  I did, however, have a mug of coffee
with half a package of full-sugar hot chocolate mix in it, 11 grams for
that half package.  It was mighty tasty, but I won't be making a habit of
it.  

Anyway, so far the best thing I've found to do when I want a cigarette is
to take some really deep breaths, in through the nose, out through the
mouth.  The in breath is a 5 count, and the out breath is a 10 count, and I
feel so much better.

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sue kelso - 14 Mar 2004 06:43 GMT
> > OK, so I'm not doing so bad.  I've not shouted, screamed or drawn blood
> > since I last smoked ( I don't like to think of myself as a non-smoker, just
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> mouth.  The in breath is a 5 count, and the out breath is a 10 count, and I
> feel so much better.

Luna,
I have always enjoyed your posts.  I am quitting next saturday soI'll be
interested in how you are doing.  I've done it before and it wasn't that
hard until I drank.  argh.

keep it up.  my non-smoking slogan will be "i'd rather be a non-smoker with
an occasional desire to smoke, than a smoker with a constant desire to
quit".

sue k
Eileen Dougal - 14 Mar 2004 10:37 GMT
Good Luck with the quitting smoking.  Just keep telling yourself, "I CAN do
it", because you really can!  The deep breathing helped me tremendously when
I first quit. Also drink LOTS of water. Which also helps with dieting.
Whenever I'd want a cigarette, I would just down a full glass of water, then
do my deep breathing and by then, the craving had passed.

Eileen

> > OK, so I'm not doing so bad.  I've not shouted, screamed or drawn blood
> > since I last smoked ( I don't like to think of myself as a non-smoker, just
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>
> I have only 3 flaws.  My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.
Jim Marnott - 14 Mar 2004 13:17 GMT
> OK, so I'm not doing so bad.  I've not shouted, screamed or drawn blood
> since I last smoked ( I don't like to think of myself as a non-smoker, just
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> for this) myself eating crunchy nut cornflakes, with milk and chocolate
> toffee yoghurt.  Both of wich I do NOT like.

Congrats.  Don't worry about what you eat.  Quitting smoking is MUCH more
important than losing weight.  If you can stick to LC, then that's great,
but it's better to quit smoking now ... and staying quit forever.  I quit a
year and half ago.  I started up LC again after about six months of
non-smoking.  Try to be good with your food, but if it's a question of
smoking a cigarette or eating a piece of cake... go with the cake. You may
want to keep some LC treats around the house for the times when it gets to
be just too much.

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JC Der Koenig - 14 Mar 2004 15:04 GMT
> Congrats.  Don't worry about what you eat.  Quitting smoking is MUCH more
> important than losing weight.

Wrong.

Obesity will kill you quicker than smoking, and cause more problems for you
while you live.

The optimum would be to worry about both.
Luna - 14 Mar 2004 16:46 GMT
> > Congrats.  Don't worry about what you eat.  Quitting smoking is MUCH more
> > important than losing weight.
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>
> The optimum would be to worry about both.

What's better?  If you HAVE to chose one or the other.  Taking a week or
two off from actively trying to lose weight while you work through the
nicotine cravings, or waiting a year or two to try to quit smoking while
you lose the weight?  I say if you have the impetus to quit smoking, do it
now, don't wait, and if the only thing that helps you to cope is eating,
don't worry about it because it's just for a few days to a couple of weeks.

However, there are better ways than eating to combat cravings.  Eating
actually just makes me want to smoke _more_ because I used to smoke after
every meal.  Coffee is helping me a lot with the physical symptoms, so I'm
getting more calories from coffee than I normally would, so I suppose I
could gain weight from that.  However, exercise is helping too.  Smoking
temporarily raises your heart rate.    So does a quick jog, or some
pushups, or some jumping jacks.  It helps, imo.

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Bob M - 14 Mar 2004 19:07 GMT
>> > Congrats.  Don't worry about what you eat.  Quitting smoking is MUCH
>> more
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>>
>> The optimum would be to worry about both.

Obesity kills quicker than smoking?  What have you been smoking?  My dad,
who's obese, is dying of cancer from smoking, not obesity.

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JC Der Koenig - 14 Mar 2004 20:25 GMT
> >> > Congrats.  Don't worry about what you eat.  Quitting smoking is MUCH
> >> more
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> Obesity kills quicker than smoking?  What have you been smoking?  My dad,
> who's obese, is dying of cancer from smoking, not obesity.

N = 1
Ignoramus10317 - 14 Mar 2004 21:01 GMT
>> Congrats.  Don't worry about what you eat.  Quitting smoking is MUCH more
>> important than losing weight.
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>
> The optimum would be to worry about both.

what is better, a broken leg or a broken arm?

i
LCer09 - 14 Mar 2004 19:22 GMT
>OK, so I'm not doing so bad.  I've not shouted, screamed or drawn blood
>since I last smoked ( I don't like to think of myself as a non-smoker, just
>that I don't smoke at the moment).

Wouldn't thinking of yourself as a non-smoker be a bit more "positive thinking"
than just considering yourself as taking a break? Breaks are temporary.
Non-smokers don't smoke, period.

LCing since 12/01/03-
Me- 265/222/140
& hubby- 310/242/180
Kaye - 18 Mar 2004 23:25 GMT
No, thinking of myself as a non-smoker wouldn't help.  Thing is I like
smoking,  If I putmyself in the mindset that I won't ever smoke again, I
know that I will feel the need to rebel and go have a cigarette.

Kaye

>OK, so I'm not doing so bad.  I've not shouted, screamed or drawn blood
>since I last smoked ( I don't like to think of myself as a non-smoker, just
>that I don't smoke at the moment).

Wouldn't thinking of yourself as a non-smoker be a bit more "positive
thinking"
than just considering yourself as taking a break? Breaks are temporary.
Non-smokers don't smoke, period.

LCing since 12/01/03-
Me- 265/222/140
& hubby- 310/242/180
revek - 19 Mar 2004 03:06 GMT
Kaye  burbled across the ether:
> No, thinking of myself as a non-smoker wouldn't help.  Thing is I like
> smoking,  If I putmyself in the mindset that I won't ever smoke
> again, I know that I will feel the need to rebel and go have a
> cigarette.

I used to think so.  I was deluding myself.  I found that I couldn't
quit and make it stick if I still enjoyed smoking, because it was still
a pleasure that I was depriving myself of.  When it got to the point
that the first drag made me feel like I'd been sucking on tarry ends all
day and was (feeling like I was) having nicotine poisoning symptoms was
when I could finally let go.

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because scientists are human and change is sometimes painful. But it
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Address  (revek adds: or the field of dietary nutrition and weight
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