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Weight Loss Forum / Low Carb / March 2004Sugar Alcohols (various names)
When food shopping today I was surprised that there are actually some decent LC options that aren't filled with sugar alchohols and splenda/nutrasweet. Found several makes of breads in the local Super Stop-n-Shop. Arnold's had 3-4 varieties: 9 carbs, 3 fiber. no sweeteners and no sugar alcohols that I could recognize. Only $2.99 for a 21 slice, 1 lb 4 oz loaf. That's less than half the cost of 16-slice Janet's which I bought five weeks ago. The last 3 slices of that are headed for the birds outside. It didn't mold--just don't like the texture and smell. There was also Country Kitchen breads--$4 loaf that was 8 carbs 4 fiber. They had a rye variety which i might try down the road--anybody try this?? Always enjoyed dry rye toast with eggs sunny side up. Anyway, I was wondering about names for sugar alcohols...I think I know most. I read through labels looking for them anytime something says low carb. I like to know what I'm eating. Names I've found for Sugar Alcohols(polyols): Hydrolyzed starch hydrolysate (HSH) [3 calories per gram] ...HSH is also called maltitol syrup Sorbitol [2.6 calories per gram] Xylitol [2.4 calories per gram] Maltitol [2.1-2.4 calories depending upon digestion per gram] Lactitol [2.0 calories per gram] Isomalt [2.0 calories per gram] Mannitol [1.6 calories per gram] Erythritol [0.2 calories per gram] (Source: http://www.caloriecontrol.org/redcal.html ) Interesting that with Maltitol the low caloric quality rests upon it getting to the large intestine undigested. If you digest it quicker, or it moves slower it's caloric content will increase. One page spoke of Inulin as a Sugar Alcohol. Inulin - a natural dietary fiber extracted from the chicory root. SUpposedly prebiotic and "supercharges" digestive bacteria. One notable case of anaphylaxis/severe allergic reaction. DiGiTAL_ViNYL (no email) 350/318/Mar-315/200 Atkins since Jan 12, 2004 Bread is not low carb.  SignatureMost of us probably aren't in danger of eating too little. :) Becky P. > When food shopping today I was surprised that there are actually some > decent LC options that aren't filled with sugar alchohols and [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > 350/318/Mar-315/200 > Atkins since Jan 12, 2004 DigitalVinyl burbled across the ether: > One page spoke of Inulin as a Sugar Alcohol. > Inulin - a natural dietary fiber extracted from the chicory root. > SUpposedly prebiotic and "supercharges" digestive bacteria. One > notable case of anaphylaxis/severe allergic reaction. I don't see how Inulin can be considered a sugar alcohol when it is fiber. Now if it is extracted *from* fiber (as sorbitol and others can be extracted from fruits and plants) that is different. But why would it be consisitently misspoken as a dietary fiber then if so? Splenda is sweet tasting too, that doesn't make it an SA. Same with glycerine. Not an SA. Simply because it is sweet tasting is not reason enough. Fiber has a particular molecular structure that has nothing to do with sugar alcohols. Signaturerevek www.geocities.com/tanirevek/LowCarb.html lowcarbing since June 2002 5'2" 41 F 165+/too much/size seven petite please After all is said and done, more is said than done. >DigitalVinyl burbled across the ether: >> One page spoke of Inulin as a Sugar Alcohol. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >Fiber has a particular molecular structure that has nothing to do with >sugar alcohols. I agree, I think that page was just in error. I couldn't find any other mention of inulin as a sugar alcohol or of it being digested like non-fiber carbs. I had never heard of inulin before. DiGiTAL_ViNYL (no email) 350/318/Mar-315/200 Atkins since Jan 12, 2004 DigitalVinyl burbled across the ether: > I agree, I think that page was just in error. I couldn't find any > other mention of inulin as a sugar alcohol or of it being digested > like non-fiber carbs. I had never heard of inulin before. If you ever want to test it, get one of the z-carb bars (which also contains erythritol) sold at the 7-11. It is one item I know has the ingredient. Signaturerevek www.geocities.com/tanirevek/LowCarb.html lowcarbing since June 2002 5'2" 41 F 165+/too much/size seven petite please USA Today has come out with a new survey: Apparently three out of four people make up 75 percent of the population. /snip/ >Names I've found for Sugar Alcohols(polyols): > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >(Source: http://www.caloriecontrol.org/redcal.html ) They differ a lot in Glycemic Index values: Maltitol syrup (intermediate) 53 Maltitol syrup (regular) 52 Maltitol syrup (high) 48 Polyglycitol (hydrogenated starch hydrolysate) 39 Maltitol syrup (high-polymer) 36 Maltitol 36 Xylitol 13 Isomalt 9 Sorbitol 9 Lactitol 6 Erythritol 0 Mannitol 0 http://www.mendosa.com/netcarbs.htm Glycerine/glycerol is chemically different but also low GI for many people: "Oral glycerine has a negligible effect on plasma glucose and insulin in normal subjects" http://www.mendosa.com/netcarbs.htm I'm finding glycerine very helpful and I'd like to know others' experiences with it. Skinny -- pre-diab hypo Skinny pre-diabetic hypoglycemic burbled across the ether: > Glycerine/glycerol is chemically different but also low GI for many > people: > "Oral glycerine has a negligible effect on plasma glucose and insulin > in normal subjects"" > http://www.mendosa.com/netcarbs.htm NB: Mendosa is not the best source. He tends to go a little too 'out there' for most people --he does have his adherents and if you are one, then more power to you but your posts would hold more sway with others who don't if you can find the same information somewhere else as a confirmation, then most would feel more comfortable in holding the information valid. > I'm finding glycerine very helpful and I'd like to know others' > experiences with it. Hoo-boy have you opened a can of worms. I suggest you google on sugar alcohol and glycerin in asdlc. Suffice to say that most normal/healthy people don't have blood sugar/insulin issues with glycerine (or SAs either), but it appears to cause stalls in some people, meaning that they still absorb the carbs (even if very slowly). Some people though, are special. ;) They not only absorb the carbs, but they do so fairly quickly. You just have to test them on yourself to see where you fall. Your body, your science experiment. Signaturerevek www.geocities.com/tanirevek/LowCarb.html lowcarbing since June 2002 5'2" 41 F 165+/too much/size seven petite please Humans are always slightly lost. It's a basic characteristic. It explains a lot about them. {Lords and Ladies, 1992} >Skinny pre-diabetic hypoglycemic burbled across the ether: >> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >confirmation, then most would feel more comfortable in holding the >information valid. Note Well: Rick Mendosa has one of the most up to date sites out there for diabetics. If there is any invalid info on it, I would like it pointed out to me. Your Pal, Sleepy --------------------------------- The True Axis of Evil Bush - Cheney - Ashcroft - Rumsfeld --------------------------------- > Note Well: > Rick Mendosa has one of the most up to date sites out there for > diabetics. If there is any invalid info on it, I would like it pointed > out to me. My apologies. I missread Mendosa as Mercola. -- revek "Alex, I'll take 'Things Only I Know' for $200" >> Note Well: >> Rick Mendosa has one of the most up to date sites out there for [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >My apologies. I missread Mendosa as Mercola. NP. Sleepy --------------------------------- The True Axis of Evil Bush - Cheney - Ashcroft - Rumsfeld --------------------------------- >When food shopping today I was surprised that there are actually some >decent LC options that aren't filled with sugar alchohols and [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] >350/318/Mar-315/200 >Atkins since Jan 12, 2004 You forgot all the -ose sugar alcohols. Sleepy --------------------------------- The True Axis of Evil Bush - Cheney - Ashcroft - Rumsfeld --------------------------------- >You forgot all the -ose sugar alcohols. Like sucralose? Splenda-- is that technically a sugar alcohol, too? >Sleepy > >--------------------------------- > The True Axis of Evil >Bush - Cheney - Ashcroft - Rumsfeld >--------------------------------- DiGiTAL_ViNYL (no email) 350/318/Mar-315/200 Atkins since Jan 12, 2004 >>You forgot all the -ose sugar alcohols. > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >350/318/Mar-315/200 >Atkins since Jan 12, 2004 No, it's not. I was thinking of things like Maltrose, Dextrose, etc. Sleepy --------------------------------- The True Axis of Evil Bush - Cheney - Ashcroft - Rumsfeld --------------------------------- >> You forgot all the -ose sugar alcohols. > > Like sucralose? Splenda-- is that technically a sugar alcohol, too? No. -- revek The whole of life is just like watching a film. Only it's as though you always get in ten minutes after the big picture has started, and no-one will tell you the plot, so you have to work it out all yourself from the clues. - Terry Pratchett, Moving Pictures. >>> You forgot all the -ose sugar alcohols. >> >> Like sucralose? Splenda-- is that technically a sugar alcohol, too? > >No. I found a cheaper version of flavored water at the pharmacy today. It contains sucralose as the last ingredient. It's half the price of Fruit 20. -- Jean M. New food of the week: Ice water. Lots of it. (The jalapeño peppers are very hot!) Do away with flipfloping to e-mail. /snip/ >>Anyway, I was wondering about names for sugar alcohols...I think I >>know most. I read through labels looking for them anytime something [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] >>SUpposedly prebiotic and "supercharges" digestive bacteria. One >>notable case of anaphylaxis/severe allergic reaction. >You forgot all the -ose sugar alcohols. > >Sleepy Aren't the -ose rather a different category, not called sugar alcohols, and working a bit differently? Maybe some slower than sugar but still a serious load. Some of the -ol 'sugar alcohols' have very low GI, either absorbed much more slowly or not raising BG noticeably at all. (Depending on the person; may knock people out of ketosis.) Skinny -- pre-diab hypo still getting a lot of good out of glycerol, and wondering if I'm the only one.... |
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