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Weight Loss Forum / Low Carb / March 2004Good sugars? Bad sugars?
What is the low-down on sugars that cause digestive distress? I tried some non-sugar hard candies the other day that were sweetened with something called sucralose. After just eating a few I knew it was affecting me badly. The next day I didn't eat any. No problem. The next day I tried a few again - bad news. It couldn't be a coincidence. I heard that some sugar substitutes are known to case bad digestive reactions. Is sucralose one of them? doug http://diet.lifemind.com > What is the low-down on sugars that cause digestive distress? > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > I heard that some sugar substitutes are known to case bad digestive > reactions. Is sucralose one of them? Most people tend to tolerate sucralose pretty well, but some people DO have a problem with it. It is the generic name for Splenda. It is NOT a sugar alcohol -- the SA's are the ones that are notorious for causing digestive upsets.  SignatureSaffire 205/165/125 - 5'2.5" Atkins since 6/14/03 Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333 On 3/17/04 5:33 PM, in article MPG.1ac1ad43e38d7e22989c3d@news.newsguy.com, >> What is the low-down on sugars that cause digestive distress? >> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > alcohol > -- the SA's are the ones that are notorious for causing digestive upsets. That's what I was afraid of. There seems to be a trend here (in Japan) to giving up aspartame in favor of sucralose in sugar-free things. But my body seems not to tolerate it well. <sigh> doug > On 3/17/04 5:33 PM, in article MPG.1ac1ad43e38d7e22989c3d@news.newsguy.com, > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > giving up aspartame in favor of sucralose in sugar-free things. But my body > seems not to tolerate it well. Doug - it's probably not the sucralose. Look for sugar alcohols in your candy. There are several kinds, mostly ending in -tol. Maltitol, lactitol, xylitol, etc. As Saffire said, those are what is most notorious for causing gas/diarrhea, and they're also widely used in sugar-free candies now. If you want to isolate whether it's those (sugar alcohols) or the sucralose (Splenda) that is causing you problems, then find something that you can use packet Splenda in (tea, coffee) and see if that also causes you problems. The main reported problem with Splenda for some is a chemical aftertaste - can't say I've ever heard of it causing someone diarrhea. SA's on the other hand cause it for enough people that some foods containing them now also carry a warning about digestive upset. Stargazer Atkins since Apr '03 192/147/140 On 3/17/04 7:33 PM, in article INV5c.103621$rB4.98225@bignews6.bellsouth.net, "Stargazer" <me@privacy.net> wrote: > Doug - it's probably not the sucralose. Look for sugar alcohols in your > candy. There are several kinds, mostly ending in -tol. Maltitol, lactitol, [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > hand cause it for enough people that some foods containing them now also > carry a warning about digestive upset. There seems to be something in there that translates as "sorbitol". Is that one of those sugar alcohols? doug > There seems to be something in there that translates as "sorbitol". > Is that one of those sugar alcohols? Yes. Sorbitol is a sugar alcohol and is most likely the cause of your problems. I'm not saying that sucralose isn't causing a problem but it's much more likely the SA is. On 3/17/04 8:45 PM, in article 3TW5c.13773$Oo5.3188@twister.nyroc.rr.com, >> There seems to be something in there that translates as "sorbitol". >> Is that one of those sugar alcohols? > > Yes. Sorbitol is a sugar alcohol and is most likely the cause of your > problems. I'm not saying that sucralose isn't causing a problem but it's > much more likely the SA is. I see. Thanks. Well, if sucralose by itself is a sweetener why do you suppose they also add sorbitol to it? Especially if it makes a lot of people sick... doug > Well, if sucralose by itself is a sweetener why do you suppose > they also add sorbitol to it? Especially if it makes a lot of > people sick... Well, one day I found some chewing gum (Wrigley's, I think) that had aspartame added as a "flavour enhancer" in addition to plain sugar. Go figure... SignatureKlaus Alexander Seistrup · Copenhagen · Denmark http://www.magnetic-ink.dk/ · http://www.pnx.dk/ > I see. Thanks. Well, if sucralose by itself is a sweetener why do you > suppose they also add sorbitol to it? Especially if it makes a lot of > people sick... I think it's because sugar alcohols act more like sugar in candy making. Sucralose is sweet like sugar but doesn't harden. > On 3/17/04 8:45 PM, in article 3TW5c.13773$Oo5.3188@twister.nyroc.rr.com, > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > doug It's to get the texture right. I have never seen a sugarless hard candy without sugar alcohols in it. In fact, every bag I have seen here in the US has a warning that "excessive consumption may have a laxative effect." The ones with "isomalt" (which I guess is a sugar alcohol even though it doesn't end in -ol?) work on me with just two pieces, which I don't consider "excessive" but oh well. SignatureMichelle Levin http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws. Luna burbled across the ether: The ones with "isomalt" (which I guess is a sugar > alcohol even though it doesn't end in -ol?) Yes. It's a blend of half mannitol and half sorbitol. Signaturerevek www.geocities.com/tanirevek/LowCarb.html lowcarbing since June 2002 5'2" 41 F 165+/too much/size seven petite please "Of course, just because we've heard a spine-chilling, blood-curdling scream of the sort to make your very marrow freeze in your bones doesn't automatically mean there's anything wrong." {Soul Music, 1994} > Luna burbled across the ether: > The ones with "isomalt" (which I guess is a sugar > > alcohol even though it doesn't end in -ol?) > > Yes. It's a blend of half mannitol and half sorbitol. I think that was the same stuff in some sugar-free cough drops I looked at the last time I was sick. I didn't buy them. The last thing I need when I have a violent cough is the runs. SignatureMichelle Levin http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws. >> Yes. Sorbitol is a sugar alcohol and is most likely the cause of your >> problems. I'm not saying that sucralose isn't causing a problem but it's [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > suppose they also add sorbitol to it? Especially if it makes a lot of people > sick... None of the artificial sweeteners will "candy" like sugar does when cooked. The sugar alcohols or isomalt are required for candy textures. Signaturejamie (jamiemck@newsguy.com) "There's a seeker born every minute." What about soft drinks? I found an "amino acid healthy drink" by Asahi this nmorning - zero carbs, zero calories, lots of amino acids and apparently the only sweetener listed is sucralose. Does that sound right? Are there sucralose-only sweetened drinks in the U.S.? doug On 3/19/04 3:46 AM, in article slrnc5jrk5.r6j.jamie@bozo2.local.net, "jamie" >>> Yes. Sorbitol is a sugar alcohol and is most likely the cause of your >>> problems. I'm not saying that sucralose isn't causing a problem but it's [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > None of the artificial sweeteners will "candy" like sugar does when > cooked. The sugar alcohols or isomalt are required for candy textures. Doug Lerner burbled across the ether: > What about soft drinks? I found an "amino acid healthy drink" by > Asahi this nmorning - zero carbs, zero calories, lots of amino acids > and apparently the only sweetener listed is sucralose. > Does that sound right? Are there sucralose-only sweetened drinks in > the U.S.? Yes. Sounds like an acceptable low-carb fizzy if you are concerned about aspartame. The US markets Diet Rite, Fruit2O, bottled Crystal Light, a few regionals. Still not as common as aspartame drinks though. I have no opinion about amino acids in sodas. Signaturerevek www.geocities.com/tanirevek/LowCarb.html lowcarbing since June 2002 5'2" 41 F 165+/too much/size seven petite please An effective way to deal with predators is to taste terrible. Doug, Your "no sugar" candy was almost certainly full of sugar alcohols on top of the Splenda. I have not seen any candy that is only Splenda-sweetened. http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/products.htm discusses the sugar alcohols and has pointers to some web sites with technical details. -- Jenny - Low Carbing for 4 years. At goal for weight. Type 2 diabetes, hba1c 5.2. Cut the carbs to respond to my email address! Low carb facts and figures, my weight-loss photos, tips, recipes, strategies for dealing with diabetes and more at http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/ Looking for help controlling your blood sugar? Visit http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/Newly%20Diagnosed.htm > What is the low-down on sugars that cause digestive distress? > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > http://diet.lifemind.com A fascinatingly informative page, Jenny. Do you mind if I link to it from my http://diet.lifemind.com site? By the by, with regards to your paragraph: "But even here, a little caution is required. That's because labeling laws outside United States often treat fiber differently. In many European countries, fiber is already deducted from label's total carb count. For example, imported Scandinavian bran crackers that list 3 grams of carbohydrate and 3 grams of fiber do not contain zero grams of carbohydrate. If they followed U.S. labeling conventions, their labels would show 6 grams of carbohydrate and 3 grams of fiber, since European labels have already deducted fiber from total. This is also true of many imported chocolates." That caution also applies to here in Japan, where digestible carbs and fiber are listed separately, so you don't subtract, which I learned to my great disappointment. :) doug On 3/17/04 9:36 PM, in article 40584740$0$2794$61fed72c@news.rcn.com, > Doug, > [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] >> >> http://diet.lifemind.com Doug, Link away. I love links. <g> Thanks for the info about the Japanese Labels. -- Jenny - Low Carbing for 4 years. At goal for weight. Type 2 diabetes, hba1c 5.2. Cut the carbs to respond to my email address! Low carb facts and figures, my weight-loss photos, tips, recipes, strategies for dealing with diabetes and more at http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/ Looking for help controlling your blood sugar? Visit http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/Newly%20Diagnosed.htm > A fascinatingly informative page, Jenny. Do you mind if I link to it from my > http://diet.lifemind.com site? [quoted text clipped - 54 lines] > >> > >> http://diet.lifemind.com if you had a farting attack, that's not because of sucralose, but because of maltitol. The fake candy that you ate was advertised as "with splenda", but Ibet it contained maltitol much more than splenda. i > What is the low-down on sugars that cause digestive distress? > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > http://diet.lifemind.com > What is the low-down on sugars that cause digestive distress? > > I tried some non-sugar hard candies the other day that were sweetened with > something called sucralose. After just eating a few I knew it was affecting > me badly. It probably was not the sucralose, but the additional isomalt, maltitol, lactitol, sorbitol, mannitol, etc. Rarely is candy sweetened with *only* sucralose/aspartame/ace-k. Signaturejamie (jamiemck@newsguy.com) "There's a seeker born every minute." |
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