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OTC Medication to Help with Sugar Alcohol Reaction?

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Ryan - 17 Mar 2004 16:23 GMT
With so many new reduced carb products coming out these days that
include Sugar Alcohol, I was wondering if anyone has found an over the
counter medication that can be used to help counter the negative
reaction so many of us have.

I find in order to stick to a low-carb diet, I must at times have a
treat. However, if I eat the smallest amount of Sugar Alcohol I am
left with gas and bloating for hours. The "anti-gas" meds in the drug
store seem to have no effect on the problem at all.

A simular reaction happens when I am eating very low-carb and eat a
regular sweet, so having a small piece of candy or baked good with
regular sugar doesn't solve the problem, it just causes a similar one.

I know others have reactions to Sugar Alcohol and am wondering what
you take when you have a reaction? Certainly, people just don't sit
and suffer there has to be something you keep in your medicine cabinet
that helps calm things down.

Until they find a Sugar Alcohol that doesn't cause any issues when
being digested, I'd like to have something on hand just in case I need
it.

Thanks!
Cate - 17 Mar 2004 16:40 GMT
welziak@snet.net (Ryan) wrote in news:189b1c22.0403170723.1bb3f299
@posting.google.com:

> I find in order to stick to a low-carb diet, I must at times have a
> treat. However, if I eat the smallest amount of Sugar Alcohol I am
> left with gas and bloating for hours. The "anti-gas" meds in the drug
> store seem to have no effect on the problem at all.

Have you tried Beano?

Having said that, I'm all for occasional treats if one has good self
control. However, how much of a treat is a substance that gives you gas and
bloating? How much are you really *treating* yourself if you're making
yourself sick?

I have irritable bowel syndrome, which means I get diarrhea from many
different foods, especially ones that I love (did love, anyway, before
going low-carb). After a while it became apparent I could no longer eat
McDonald's french fries, for example, because doing so would land me in the
bathroom for 30 minutes afterward. I could've taken a dose of an anti-
diarrheal every time I ate the fries, but I instead chose to give them up.

If I have to take *medicine* in order to be able to eat a processed food,
that food is not meant for my body.

Cate
JC Der Koenig - 17 Mar 2004 16:49 GMT
The best medication is prevention. Just say no.

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Most of us probably aren't in danger of eating too little. :)

Becky P.

> With so many new reduced carb products coming out these days that
> include Sugar Alcohol, I was wondering if anyone has found an over the
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>
> Thanks!
FOB - 17 Mar 2004 22:00 GMT
Try the ZCarb bars, they don't have that effect.  You can order them at
http://www.zcarbbar.com/

In news:189b1c22.0403170723.1bb3f299@posting.google.com,
Ryan <welziak@snet.net> stated
| With so many new reduced carb products coming out these days that
| include Sugar Alcohol, I was wondering if anyone has found an over the
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|
| Thanks!
LCer09 - 18 Mar 2004 13:17 GMT
>Try the ZCarb bars, they don't have that effect.  You can order them at
>http://www.zcarbbar.com/

18 bars for $26?? They're $0.98 at Walmart! And I think it should be "they
don't have that effect on MOST people". Nothing is true for everyone.

LCing since 12/01/03-
Me- 265/220/140
& hubby- 310/239/180
Sleepyman - 18 Mar 2004 21:36 GMT
>Try the ZCarb bars, they don't have that effect.  You can order them at
>http://www.zcarbbar.com/

To bad they don't have an ingredients list on the page. As soon as I
see a phrase like Zero "Impact" Carbs (quote mine) I know damn well
there are sugar alcohols involved.

Sleepy

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LCer09 - 18 Mar 2004 22:27 GMT
>To bad they don't have an ingredients list on the page. As soon as I
>see a phrase like Zero "Impact" Carbs (quote mine) I know damn well
>there are sugar alcohols involved.

This is from the dark chocolate with soy crisps;

real chocolate (chocolate liquor, erythritol, inulin, cocoa butter, calcium
carbonate, milk fat, sodium caseinate, soya lechthin) soy protien crisps,
natural flavors, sucralose

LCing since 12/01/03-
Me- 265/220/140
& hubby- 310/239/180
Jenny - 18 Mar 2004 23:00 GMT
I like the Z-carb bars, but their labels cannot be right because, for
starters, there are a couple grams of carbs in the cocoa of the dark
chocolate.

Even 1 square of plain baking chocolate has a couple grams of carb.

Plus, as much as I enjoy them, I do see a very slight rise in blood sugar
not compatible with "zero" carbs. More like 2-5.  That works for me, and I
don't get gas from them, but I'd take the label with a grain of salt.

-- Jenny  - Low Carbing for 4 years. At goal for weight. Type 2 diabetes,
hba1c 5.2.
Cut the carbs to respond to my  email address!

Low carb facts and figures, my weight-loss photos, tips, recipes,
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> >To bad they don't have an ingredients list on the page. As soon as I
> >see a phrase like Zero "Impact" Carbs (quote mine) I know damn well
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> Me- 265/220/140
> & hubby- 310/239/180
LCer09 - 19 Mar 2004 00:19 GMT
>Plus, as much as I enjoy them, I do see a very slight rise in blood sugar
>not compatible with "zero" carbs. More like 2-5.  That works for me, and I
>don't get gas from them, but I'd take the label with a grain of salt.

I'll have one when my PMS gets bad. It kills the cravings without creating
more. So for me, they have their place once a month.

LCing since 12/01/03-
Me- 5'7" 265/220/140
& hubby- 6' 310/239/180
FOB - 18 Mar 2004 22:48 GMT
They have erythritol, inulin and sucralose.

In news:pu1k50dkh5di656h7fsm9i2l8toqvsg273@4ax.com,
Sleepyman <eat@moms.com> stated

|| Try the ZCarb bars, they don't have that effect.  You can order them
|| at http://www.zcarbbar.com/
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| Bush - Cheney - Ashcroft - Rumsfeld
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revek - 17 Mar 2004 22:56 GMT
> With so many new reduced carb products coming out these days that
> include Sugar Alcohol, I was wondering if anyone has found an over the
> counter medication that can be used to help counter the negative
> reaction so many of us have.

The only one I know of  is beano, but that just adds an enzyme that
helps you digest those carbs you're <insert nasty bodily function>
away, so what would be the point of eating a lowcarb version if you're
going to sabotague yourself?

> A simular reaction happens when I am eating very low-carb and eat a
> regular sweet, so having a small piece of candy or baked good with
> regular sugar doesn't solve the problem, it just causes a similar one.

Hmm.  Ya know, we give our grandson apple juice when he gets a little
constipated.  Maybe your gut has reverted to the sensitivity of a very
young child.

> I know others have reactions to Sugar Alcohol and am wondering what
> you take when you have a reaction?

I take a long meditative look at why I ate that stuff in the first
place, and ask myself was it really worth it while I make music in the
bathroom.  :)

Certainly, people just don't sit
> and suffer there has to be something you keep in your medicine cabinet
> that helps calm things down.

Nope.  Not really.

> Until they find a Sugar Alcohol that doesn't cause any issues when
> being digested, I'd like to have something on hand just in case I need
> it.

There is a new SA that seems to avoid distress for most people.  It's
called erythritol.  Not many manufacturers use it yet-- it's probably
still too expensive even in bulk.  There are lowcarb candy bars called
z-bars made with it available at 7-11s, and you can order it online
(9-10 bux for 2 cups) and make your own stuff with it.  You might want
to try the candy bar first, to see if it is worth investing so much in
a sweetener.

(I like it, but at the price it's going for now, I only make holiday
goodies with it, and not many of those.)

--
revek
A cheap shot is a terrible thing to waste.
Jean B. - 18 Mar 2004 13:18 GMT
> There is a new SA that seems to avoid distress for most people.  It's
> called erythritol.  Not many manufacturers use it yet-- it's probably
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> (I like it, but at the price it's going for now, I only make holiday
> goodies with it, and not many of those.)

Note that it is REALLY nasty sprinkled on fruit....

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jpatti - 17 Mar 2004 23:09 GMT
I hate to agree with JC, but... well... no offense, but it's a stupid
question.  Rather like asking for the best headache relief after
wacking yourself in the head with a hammer; the only appropriate reply
is... don't wack yourself!

There's lots of treats available without the need for sugar alcohols -
plenty of sucralose or aspartame-sweetened things.  Mix up some cream
cheese, yogurt or ricotta with some cocoa and sweetener, or one of the
sugar-free DaVinci syrups.  Or make Lynne's chocolate with your
favorite sugar substitute (I find it works just as well with aspartame
as with sucralose, which is cheaper).
Jenny - 17 Mar 2004 23:13 GMT
Ryan,

There's nothing that helps with that kind of gas, because the gas from both
wheat and sugar alcohols it is caused by undigested carbs getting into your
small intestine where helpful bacteria digest them for you via fermentation.

If you'll remember, a by-product of fermentation is gas.

The reason you get this happening with wheat after low carbing is that after
you stop eating wheat for a while, your body stops making the enzyme needed
to digest it. So the wheat passes into your gut and ferments there. This
problem goes away in a few days if you keep eating the wheat. But the sugar
alcohol problem does not because your body may not ever make enzymes to
digest them.  (Some people do, which is why maltitol doesn't cause gas for
some people.)

Beano can help with the gas from wheat but not with the sugar alcohols. It
is an enzyme that breaks down starches.

BTW, combining Beano with prescription starch-blocking meds like Acarbose
will undo their helpful effect on carbs.
-- Jenny  - Low Carbing for 4 years. At goal for weight. Type 2 diabetes,
hba1c 5.2.
Cut the carbs to respond to my  email address!

Low carb facts and figures, my weight-loss photos, tips, recipes,
strategies for dealing with diabetes and more at
http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/

Looking for help controlling your blood sugar?
Visit  http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/Newly%20Diagnosed.htm

> With so many new reduced carb products coming out these days that
> include Sugar Alcohol, I was wondering if anyone has found an over the
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>
> Thanks!
Tracey - 18 Mar 2004 04:34 GMT
> With so many new reduced carb products coming out these days that
> include Sugar Alcohol, I was wondering if anyone has found an over the
> counter medication that can be used to help counter the negative
> reaction so many of us have.

Don't eat them.

> I find in order to stick to a low-carb diet, I must at times have a
> treat. However, if I eat the smallest amount of Sugar Alcohol I am
> left with gas and bloating for hours. The "anti-gas" meds in the drug
> store seem to have no effect on the problem at all.

Work a REAL treat (without sugar alcohol) into your lowcarb diet.  You need
chocolate? Make yourself something with Cocoa in it.    If you are not in
induction, you can maybe fir that in.  Personally, I'd find a way to make my
diet work without sugar alcohols if they bothered me a lot...
 
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