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testing  error margin? or very fast spike/fall?

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Skinny pre-diabetic-hypoglycemic - 23 Mar 2004 17:10 GMT
I know I have fast spikes and falls, but this is ridiculous. A fall of
24 points in 3 minutes? What's the margin for error on these strips?

During morning spike before breakfast: 106

After breakfast:

BG 103 mt 8.35 starting to drift? pleasantly eyes relaxing
BG 129 mt 8.45 drifting way down, getting more 'sleepy'!!!
BG 105 mt 8.48 leveling off????, getting clearer?

Using TheraSense Freestyle, all three samples drawn close together on
wrist. The 129 didn't make sense, so I repeated the test and got the
105.

Skinny --
pre-diab hypo
Jenny - 23 Mar 2004 18:39 GMT
The margin of error on my recent strips was 5%.

Did you perhaps stick yourself on a finger that had something sugary on it?

Did you not get a full drop of blood?

Did you get water from washing your hands mixed with the blood?

All these can make a difference.

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> I know I have fast spikes and falls, but this is ridiculous. A fall of
> 24 points in 3 minutes? What's the margin for error on these strips?
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> Skinny --
> pre-diab hypo
marengo - 23 Mar 2004 19:11 GMT
| I know I have fast spikes and falls, but this is ridiculous. A fall of
| 24 points in 3 minutes? What's the margin for error on these strips?
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| Skinny --
| pre-diab hypo

Did you use a fresh lancet for each reading?  I found out right away when I
started checking my BG that even if I tested only minutes apart, I got
different readings if I didn't change the lancet.  Guess sugars or other
impurities on the skin from the first use can affect the readings.
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Damsel in dis Dress - 23 Mar 2004 20:24 GMT
>Did you use a fresh lancet for each reading?  I found out right away when I
>started checking my BG that even if I tested only minutes apart, I got
>different readings if I didn't change the lancet.  Guess sugars or other
>impurities on the skin from the first use can affect the readings.

Ahhhhhhhh!  I use the same lancet for a very long time.  I'll change mine
right now.

Thanks,
Carol
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Jenny - 23 Mar 2004 22:29 GMT
Carol,

No need to switch lancets!

I have used the same lancet many times when comparing my two meters and have
gotten results that were almost identical within the range of accuracy of
the meter (which is not any 20% no matter how often you read that here.) I
have also done two tests close to each other and seen reasonable results.

I find new lancets are much more painful than old, for some reason. The dull
ones don't hurt, the sharp ones do.

Many people on asd report using the same lancets for a month or more without
trouble.

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> >Did you use a fresh lancet for each reading?  I found out right away when I
> >started checking my BG that even if I tested only minutes apart, I got
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> This is what backsliding does:
> http://photos.yahoo.com/carol_arie
Damsel in dis Dress - 24 Mar 2004 00:35 GMT
>I find new lancets are much more painful than old, for some reason. The dull
>ones don't hurt, the sharp ones do.

That's been my observation, too.

>Many people on asd report using the same lancets for a month or more without
>trouble.

Only a month?????  LOL!

Thanks for the info, Jenny!
Carol
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Jenny - 24 Mar 2004 02:08 GMT
Well, I change my lancet when we change the clocks--unless my Sweetie
decides he wants to test and then I have to give him a new lancet (and
change it after he uses it, of course.)

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hba1c 5.2.
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> >I find new lancets are much more painful than old, for some reason. The dull
> >ones don't hurt, the sharp ones do.
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> This is what backsliding does:
> http://photos.yahoo.com/carol_arie
Skinny pre-diabetic-hypoglycemic - 24 Mar 2004 18:20 GMT
Thanks, guys!   Putting in a new lancet adds a long delay and fumble
finger factor fffubbffffbbbubbffflllllle.... :-) However wiping the
installed lancet on the alcohol swab is easy, so I'll start doing that.

/snip/
>I have used the same lancet many times when comparing my two meters and have
>gotten results that were almost identical within the range of accuracy of
>the meter (which is not any 20% no matter how often you read that here.)

Hm?? What I meant to say was, can a bad strip or something account for a
reading 20 points above the group of readings? Or does BG really spike
and come down that fast?

> I
>have also done two tests close to each other and seen reasonable results.
>
>I find new lancets are much more painful than old, for some reason. The dull
>ones don't hurt, the sharp ones do.

Even the old ones sometimes hurt. I think it's whether they hit a nerve
or something. I notice places on my arm always seem to sting, sort of in
a line from elbow to wrist, as tho a nerve pathway ran along there.

Skinny --
pre-diab hypo
Skinny pre-diabetic-hypoglycemic - 23 Mar 2004 22:45 GMT
Ok, maybe I hadn't changed the lancet or swabbed properly.  But the
previous and following samples were all pretty close together on the
wrist.

Is a drop of 8 points a minute even possible? Without extreme
sensations?

Skinny --
pre-diab hypo
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>| I know I have fast spikes and falls, but this is ridiculous. A fall of
>| 24 points in 3 minutes? What's the margin for error on these strips?
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>different readings if I didn't change the lancet.  Guess sugars or other
>impurities on the skin from the first use can affect the readings.
JoKnows - 24 Mar 2004 21:45 GMT
hey there all long time no see ... whatttttttsssssssss uppppppppppp
Jo

> | I know I have fast spikes and falls, but this is ridiculous. A fall of
> | 24 points in 3 minutes? What's the margin for error on these strips?
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> different readings if I didn't change the lancet.  Guess sugars or other
> impurities on the skin from the first use can affect the readings.
Kevin Martin (Homebrewer) - 26 Mar 2004 03:11 GMT
> hey there all long time no see ... whatttttttsssssssss uppppppppppp
> Jo

Been awhile Jo,
Good to read you again.
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