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PKripper@mikebuffshouse.com - 23 Mar 2004 17:16 GMT

Will you still lose weight like induction if you add strawberries?
And will a product that has 1-2 or 3 grams of sugar stop your body from
burning fat?
thanks in advance

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DJ Delorie - 23 Mar 2004 18:04 GMT

> Will you still lose weight like induction if you add strawberries?

You will stop "losing weight like induction" after induction, no
matter what you do. You lose a lot of water in induction, and that
only lasts a few weeks no matter what.

> And will a product that has 1-2 or 3 grams of sugar stop your body
> from burning fat?

No, it's total carbs and caloric deficit that determine when you burn
fat. The individual carb count of each food you eat is pretty much
irrelevent as long as the totals work out low enough (meaning, 100g
carbs and 10-12x cals or less for most people, etc etc).

Your body tends to "average out" your diet over the course of the
day/week so the minutae of the diet isn't as important as the average.

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Saffire - 24 Mar 2004 00:12 GMT

> Will you still lose weight like induction if you add strawberries?

You will continue to lose weight if you add strawberries, as long as they are
budgeted into your carb count for the day. You will NOT continue to lose at the
rate of induction, but that's not because of strawberries. You lose a lot of
water during induction. Once the glycogen stores in the liver are used up, the
water bound to the glycogen is shed. Once that's gone, the REAL work of burning
fat begins. Most people average 1-2 lbs per week post-induction.

> And will a product that has 1-2 or 3 grams of sugar stop your body from
> burning fat?

Trace amounts are usually okay as long as you limit them as much as possible. I
wouldn't deliberately add sugar to anything, but tiny amounts present in some
processed foods usually have a neglible effect.

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Hueyduck - 24 Mar 2004 14:54 GMT

>>And will a product that has 1-2 or 3 grams of sugar stop your body from
>>burning fat?
>
> Trace amounts are usually okay as long as you limit them as much as possible. I
> wouldn't deliberately add sugar to anything, but tiny amounts present in some
> processed foods usually have a neglible effect.

It is true.
I think that what induction does, mainly, is teaching the body to burn
fat easily again when meal carbs are burned. You don't have the "If I
don't have glucose, I will take glycogen" step anymore, since glycogen
is gone.
So if you eat carbs in such an amount that your body has just what it
needs, you don't give your lever the chance to store glycogen. Every
grammme of carb is burnt right away, and whand there is no sugar, your
body naturally goes back to burning fat.
For instance, let's say you eat 50g of carbs during a meal.
If it is 50g of honey, your body won't have enough time to use it
bacause it will be burnt right away.
If your 50g of carb come from a vegetable, it will take like several
hours to brun it. In 2 hours, you burn more than the 200 cal delivered
by 50g of carbs. No energy is stocked in glycogen, and this has no
effect on ketosys.

Huey

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Doug Freyburger - 25 Mar 2004 00:00 GMT

> Will you still lose weight like induction if you add strawberries?

It doesn't matter *at all* if you stay at 20 or move on into OWL,
it is *physically impossible* to continue Induction-like loses.

During Induction the body loses the carbs stored in the liver.
Those carbs are stored in water. Once the liver is empty of
carbs, there's *no more* of that to lose and the body switches to
ketosis and burning mostly fat. No more stored carbs, no more
stored water, no more water loss. Physically impossible to
sustain. DO NOT to into your mind any expectation that fat can
be lost like water.

> And will a product that has 1-2 or 3 grams of sugar stop your body from
> burning fat?

Not unless your CCLL is 22-23. CCLLs range from 15 to 150.

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DG511 - 25 Mar 2004 01:38 GMT

>dfreybur@yahoo.com (Doug Freyburger)

writes:

>> Will you still lose weight like induction if you add strawberries?
>
>It doesn't matter *at all* if you stay at 20 or move on into OWL,
>it is *physically impossible* to continue Induction-like loses.

Doug is right. Like a lot of people, I was pretty skeptical about upping my
carbs, but I did, and it broke a slight stall. I'm now a believer.

When I upped my carbs, the first thing I added back in was berries. Each day,
I make a smoothie with about 1/3 cup of frozen raspberries or strawberries,
plus yogurt, milk, cocoa powder, and a packet of Splenda. It's a treat, it has
fiber and other good nutrients, and it's not adding that many carbs to my diet.
So if you want to test it out, give it a shot. If adding strawberries puts
you into a stall, you'll learn that you have to pull them off the menu for a
while longer. If not, well. . . enjoy!

Daria
166/147/140
sugar-free since 2/1/04
low-carb since 2/17/04

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