Hi, I have just completed the 1st two-week induction phase of Atkins
and lost absolutely nothing!!! I even took the L-Carnitine, CQ10,
Vitamins, and chromium picolinate that was suggested in the sluggish
metabolism section of the book just to be on the safe side. I work
out 5 days a week with 30-45 minutes of cardio. Because I did not
lose the first 2 weeks, I called the Atkins hotline, and they informed
me that I should cut out the 1 to 2 Atkins Advantage bars because with
some people it may slow the weight loss cycle down. But, come on, if
that is the only thing that may have been wrong in my diet and I
exercise 5 days a week (and some people do not exercise at all, and
they still lose a lot of weight the first two weeks), then something
is definitely not right. I have not been doing weight lifting during
the induction phase because I know muscle weighs more than fat, and I
did not want that to interfere with the actual numbers on the scale
going down. I need to lose 65 pounds. I have been getting cortisone
and steroid injections in my back which lasts for 2 weeks, but I made
sure I did not get my next injection when I started the Atkins as I
did not want that to interfere with my weight loss either. It causes
weight gain.
Has anyone else not lost weight during the initial 2-week induction
phase? If so, what happened in your case, and are you still on the
diet and losing now? How much? And when did it finally start falling
off?
Ignoramus20562 - 25 Mar 2004 18:14 GMT
> Hi, I have just completed the 1st two-week induction phase of Atkins
> and lost absolutely nothing!!! I even took the L-Carnitine, CQ10,
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> me that I should cut out the 1 to 2 Atkins Advantage bars because with
> some people it may slow the weight loss cycle down.
you never were on induction. Atkins advantage bars are not allowed on
induction, according to atkins book.
> But, come on, if that is the only thing that may have been wrong in
> my diet and I exercise 5 days a week (and some people do not
> exercise at all, and they still lose a lot of weight the first two
> weeks), then something is definitely not right.
you never were on induction, eating fake foods etc.
> I have not been doing weight lifting during the induction phase
> because I know muscle weighs more than fat
one pound of muscle weighs the same as one pound of fat.
>, and I did not want that
> to interfere with the actual numbers on the scale going down. I
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> diet and losing now? How much? And when did it finally start falling
> off?
try eating real food and eating a little less.
i
Rapsmom1 - 25 Mar 2004 18:20 GMT
Look at the real carb counts on those bars - you were probably eating an extra
40-45 grams per day with them!
Try induction again eating only real food as specified in the book and then
come back and let us know your results.
Jennifer
260/212/135
Atkins since 8/4/03
shuffle - 25 Mar 2004 19:24 GMT
Bang on. Theres no way you will *not* loose on induction. I know
people loose different amounts - from 15 to 3 lbs. over 2 weeks, but
everybody looses. Follow the book and it will happen!
> Look at the real carb counts on those bars - you were probably eating an extra
> 40-45 grams per day with them!
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> 260/212/135
> Atkins since 8/4/03
Cindy - 25 Mar 2004 21:01 GMT
re examine everything you ate that was pre packaged. Try eating nothing pre
packaged. Are you a big caffeine drinker? I think the advantage bars have
sugar alcohols if so that could be the problem. some people metaobilse it
just like reg sugar. Give an example of an everyday meal for you the last 2
weeks. It could be several things if its not what you are eating. Other meds
that you may not know hinder weight loss. Your metabolic resistance could be
very high. But i wouldnt worry abotu allt hat till you get off the prepacked
foods for 2 weeks.
> Bang on. Theres no way you will *not* loose on induction. I know
> people loose different amounts - from 15 to 3 lbs. over 2 weeks, but
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> > 260/212/135
> > Atkins since 8/4/03
whats going on? - 25 Mar 2004 22:29 GMT
like the others said follow the book to a "T" and you won't get it wrong.
All of these other niceties like bread, bagels, bars you CANNOT have during
induction!
> re examine everything you ate that was pre packaged. Try eating nothing pre
> packaged. Are you a big caffeine drinker? I think the advantage bars have
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> > > 260/212/135
> > > Atkins since 8/4/03
spatz - 26 Mar 2004 20:14 GMT
> like the others said follow the book to a "T" and you won't get it wrong.
> All of these other niceties like bread, bagels, bars you CANNOT have during
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> > > > 260/212/135
> > > > Atkins since 8/4/03
Thanks everyone for your responses. I have cut out the bars for the
last 4 days, and I have not been eating any other prepackaged food on
the induction. This morning I stepped on the scale and lost 4 pounds.
Yay!!! I have replaced the bars with celery and cream cheese and/or
2 garlic-stuffed olives which have less than 1 carb for 2 olives. I
will let you know how it goes. Congrats to all who have met their
goals and are keeping it off, and congrats to all who are still on the
Atkins weight loss phase and are still going strong.
-Spatz
wossoyi - 27 Mar 2004 01:19 GMT
> Thanks everyone for your responses. I have cut out the bars for the
> last 4 days, and I have not been eating any other prepackaged food on
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>
> -Spatz
It might be important to mention that even things that are low-carb
(0.5 to 4g) may not necessarily be good for yor metabolism. An
example would be high g.i. fruit or cotton candy. A little piece
might only have 1 or 2 g of carbohydrates, but since it's so
concentrated, your body might digest it in one bang and throw off
everything. I know sugar is just horrid for me, throws off my glucose
and bp readings to hell.
btw, have you considered a body fat scale? Because really, gaining
muscle will only help you lose more fat, not something you want to
stay away from.
-i
queen - 27 Mar 2004 02:26 GMT
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> Thanks everyone for your responses. I have cut out the bars for the
> last 4 days, and I have not been eating any other prepackaged food on
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>
> -Spatz
Hey, congratulations!
Saffire - 25 Mar 2004 22:47 GMT
> Hi, I have just completed the 1st two-week induction phase of Atkins
Hi Spatz, welcome to the group!
> out 5 days a week with 30-45 minutes of cardio. Because I did not
> lose the first 2 weeks, I called the Atkins hotline, and they informed
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> they still lose a lot of weight the first two weeks), then something
> is definitely not right. I have not been doing weight lifting during
The net carbs touted on low-carb bars can be deceptive because different people
process them differently due to the sugar alcohols in them. The general
concensus here is that if you get gastric distress (BAD gas, possibly diarrhea),
you're body doesn't tolerate the sugar alcohols very well and it dumps them out
as soon as possible -- good news! As long as you don't mind excessive farting,
painful cramps and sudden, intense urges to evacuate your bowels, you can enjoy
the dubiously tasty bars without a significant carb hit. HOWEVER, if you eat
them and experience little or no gastric distress, your body probably IS
absorbing the sugar alcohols and you are getting way more carbs than you THINK
you are. Pick your poison. OTOH, some people report no problems with digestion
OR weight gain/stall with them or only CERTAIN sugar alcohols affect them that
way. It wouldn't hurt to cut the bars out for a couple of weeks to see if it has
any effect.

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205/163/125 - 5'2.5"
Atkins since 6/14/03
Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333
Lexin - 25 Mar 2004 23:19 GMT
>The general
>concensus here is that if you get gastric distress (BAD gas, possibly diarrhea),
>you're body doesn't tolerate the sugar alcohols very well and it dumps them out
>as soon as possible -- good news! As long as you don't mind excessive farting,
>painful cramps and sudden, intense urges to evacuate your bowels, you can enjoy
>the dubiously tasty bars without a significant carb hit.
To add to the debate (which has raged on this group as long as I've
been here and for very much longer before that) I discovered that
these things stall me if I have too many in too short a time *and*
cause me really very severe gastric distress. Nearly turned myself
inside out earlier this week when I ate two maltitol-sweetened white
chocolate bars on one day. (Yes, I know how dumb that was. Trust me,
I do.)
I suspect this is because the gastric problem causes me to retain
water, but am not sure because I don't understand the mechanisms well
enough. Anyone got any ideas? (Yes, I have learned my lesson,
thanks! I won't be doing that again, ever.)
--
Lexin
(300/223/182) (5'7)
LC since 9 June 2003
LCer09 - 25 Mar 2004 23:14 GMT
> I called the Atkins hotline, and they informed
>me that I should cut out the 1 to 2 Atkins Advantage bars because with
>some people it may slow the weight loss cycle down. But, come on, if
>that is the only thing that may have been wrong in my diet
1-2 per DAY? That could be a huge "one thing". Those bars are full of sugar
alcohols.
LCing since 12/01/03-
Me- 5'7" 265/219/140
& hubby- 6' 310/237/180
Saffire - 26 Mar 2004 00:36 GMT
> > I called the Atkins hotline, and they informed
> >me that I should cut out the 1 to 2 Atkins Advantage bars because with
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> 1-2 per DAY? That could be a huge "one thing". Those bars are full of sugar
> alcohols.
And the Atkins hotline is set up by Atkins NUTRITIONALS -- they have a product to
sell you, and they are no longer affiliated with the Atkins Foundation.

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205/163/125 - 5'2.5"
Atkins since 6/14/03
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carla - 26 Mar 2004 05:35 GMT
> > I called the Atkins hotline, and they informed
> >me that I should cut out the 1 to 2 Atkins Advantage bars because with
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> 1-2 per DAY? That could be a huge "one thing". Those bars are full of sugar
> alcohols.
Not to mention calories.
carla
JC Der Koenig - 26 Mar 2004 02:32 GMT
Hey spazz, try eating a little less.

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Most of us probably aren't in danger of eating too little. :)
Becky P.
> Hi, I have just completed the 1st two-week induction phase of Atkins
> and lost absolutely nothing!!! I even took the L-Carnitine, CQ10,
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> diet and losing now? How much? And when did it finally start falling
> off?
the-truth@you-idiot.com - 26 Mar 2004 13:23 GMT
>Hi, I have just completed the 1st two-week induction phase of Atkins
>and lost absolutely nothing!!! I even took the L-Carnitine, CQ10,
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>diet and losing now? How much? And when did it finally start falling
>off?
Read this to answer the rest of your questions....
Low Carb my a.s. Thats all I hear lately, everywhere I go, is f.cking
LOW CARB this and low carb that..... It all started with some idiot
named Atkins, who claimed to be a doctor. Of course anyone can use the
word "doctor" as is often proven in colleges by art and english
teachers who claim to be a doctor of the arts or the language. The
title means nothing. The guy that cut the balls off my dog is a
doctor too. Big honking deal...
Atkins was NO Doctor, he was a QUACK.
Atkins is DEAD. Yet, fools like you people on this newsgroup still
worship him and follow his stupid bullshit diet. The same diet that
KILLED HIM.
What part of the word DEAD do you not understand?
But, I wont worry about you, because the American Funeral Association
can always use your business,,,,, Just keep those damn "LOW CARB" ads
out of my sight.
The only ones who benefit from a low carb diet are the advertisers of
the low carb foods, and the heirs of Quack Atkins, who are getting
rich off your stupidity.
What part of the word DEAD do you not understand?
Doug Freyburger - 26 Mar 2004 21:47 GMT
> Hi, I have just completed the 1st two-week induction phase of Atkins
> and lost absolutely nothing!!!
So you did something wrong.
> they informed
> me that I should cut out the 1 to 2 Atkins Advantage bars
Bingo. The bars with the lying carb count on the label may well be
the single most common cause of all stalls. One or 2 during a two
week period has been enough to stall thousands. One or 2 per day
may as well come with a written guarantee of a stall.
> But, come on, if
> that is the only thing that may have been wrong in my diet
Arguably *the* single most common cause of stalls. Exactly. Next.
> then something is definitely not right.
Sure. There is far more wrong with the bars than merely lying
about carb count on the label with the "effective" nonsense.
They have all sorts of chemicals that somehow block loss even
in small quantities.
> And when did it finally start falling off?
Drop the number one cause of stalls and you'll do fine.
Atkins Nutritionals is not the good doctor. It's their job to
push the bars.
When he was alive Dr A must have made over a million dollars from
the bars. That made him far too biased about them. Read what it
says about bars and eliminate his bias. It says all brands but
Atkins are forbidden during Indcution. Eliminate his bias and that
becomes all brands are forbidden during Induction.
BrianH - 27 Mar 2004 17:59 GMT
The "low-carb" bars have about 22 Carbs, like eating candy bars.
> Hi, I have just completed the 1st two-week induction phase of Atkins
> and lost absolutely nothing!!! I even took the L-Carnitine, CQ10,
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> diet and losing now? How much? And when did it finally start falling
> off?