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Weight Loss Forum / Low Carb / March 2004Frustrating
I just need to vent. Why do so many people think that the Atkins diet and low-carb eating in general means no vegetables? I just read something last night by a nutritionist who said that low-carb dieters don't eat vegetables. Has she read the book? I don't think so. And therefore she has no basis for commenting on the diet. And every time I tell someone about this, I have to explain about the damned vegetables. Yes, there are vegetables. Yes, they have carbs, but they're "good carbs" and you subtract the fiber grams so you come up with few "net carbs" in vegetables. No, the diet isn't anti-vegetable, it's anti-refined sugar and anti-refined grains. Why do I need to eat white flour, anyway? What's the health benefit to it? Yes, I can go to the potluck lunch at work and find something to eat. Yes, I can go out to dinner with you to a normal restaurant. It's not no-carb, it's low-carb. Etc., etc., etc. This is so frustrating! Am I the only one here who's eating more vegetables than ever before? I don't believe that low-carbers had healthier diets prior to adopting the WOE. How many low-carbers have cut out pastries, potato chips, and other junk food on this diet? And yet portions of the medical press consider this diet dangerous. Huh? How did this WOE get such a bad reputation, anyway? It's driving me a little bit nuts (and considering the TOM, it's a short journey right now) and I just had to get this off my chest. Daria 166/147/140 sugar-free since 2/1/04 low-carb since 2/17/04 It is a common perception. However, I must interject that Atkins is more that just no "refined" carbs and sugars...it is clear that many natural foods have high sugars in them and those are also to be avoided. There's no magic dichotomy between processed (refined) and natural sugars : that is, if the sugar count is too high, pass on it. I agree with the spirit of your post though, the perception of the WOE is skewed. May have something to do with every magazine interpreting what low-carb is ... and people not even reading any literature Dr. Atkins has written before forming an opinion. > I just need to vent. > [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > sugar-free since 2/1/04 > low-carb since 2/17/04 Yes, it is funny that even nutritionists have serious misconceptions about the diet. You would figure that they would at least be knowledgeable about this WOE. It's not like this diet hasn't been around that long. I've never eaten so many veggies in a 3 month stretch in all my life. A co-worker the other day was watching me eat, and said; "Oh, so I see you've decided to start eating healthy instead of that Atkins' crap". My plate was 1/3 steak and 2/3 salad veggies! He then said; "You must not be doing it right, because I just read an article that said Atkins' dieters don't eat vegetables". It's because the people that should be in the know, are babbling about a way of eating that they haven't properly researched. Of course nothing I say can change their minds, since they're getting info from an "expert". Tom (Not the bad kind. :-) Haha) --------------------------------------------------------- > I just need to vent. > [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > sugar-free since 2/1/04 > low-carb since 2/17/04 Ignore the masses and just focus on what seems to be working for you. They're the ones who will have the excess fat to carry around. But remember to watch overall caloric intake as well as the amount of carb calories. One can gain weight on a fat diet albeit not as easily as an all carb diet. > I just need to vent. > [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > sugar-free since 2/1/04 > low-carb since 2/17/04 > I just need to vent. We can be a chorus! > Why do so many people think that the Atkins diet and > low-carb eating in general means no vegetables? Because actually reading those nasty "book" things is so much hard work. Like Thomas Edison said "Most people fail to notice opportunities because opportunities come dressed in coveralls and look like work." Folks want a sound bite and they want to think the sound bite actually means something. > I just read something last night by a nutritionist who > said that low-carb dieters don't eat vegetables. Has > she read the book? I don't think so. And therefore she > has no basis for commenting on the diet. Exactly. Just another clueless person without expertese. > Am I the only one here who's eating more vegetables > than ever before? No. Join the chorus. Wanna do a round of kumbaya? ;^) > How did this WOE get such a bad reputation, anyway? I can actually answer that one. In 1972 in his original Doctor Atkin's Diet Revolution, he used and expression like "low enough that the body treats it as if it were zero carbs" to describe going into ketosis. The press latched onto that one mistake and low carbing has been zero carb ever since to idiot sound bite folks. > This is so frustrating! Am I the only one here who's eating more vegetables > than ever before? I don't believe that low-carbers had healthier diets prior I eat more veggies now that I ever have in my entire adult LIFE!  SignatureSaffire 205/163/125 - 5'2.5" Atkins since 6/14/03 Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333 Agree with you on that.. and as a matter of fact before stumbling into this NG, I too was of the impression that "Atkins" etc were basically WOE that was nothing more than meat, eggs, cheese...... (high fat, no fibre, no veggies etc) After lurking here for a while (and catching up on 10K of threads), seems it's really more like a WOE from earlier times. Meats/veggies, not much starch or sweets (sugar was so expensive back a 100 yrs ago or more & grow own veg and slaughter own stock). Interesting. <SNIP> > I just need to vent. > > Why do so many people think that the Atkins diet and low-carb eating in general > means no vegetables? I just read something last night by a nutritionist who > said that low-carb dieters don't eat vegetables. Has she read the book? I > don't think so. And therefore she has no basis for commenting on the diet. Daria said: >This is so frustrating! Am I the only one here who's eating more vegetables >than ever before? I am, and I was ALWAYS a veggie-lover. It's a veritable bok-choi fest around here lately. I can't get enough. Piedlourde As Atkins (Low Carb) gains momentum, look around it is inescapable, the masses jump on board. We all know the mentality of the 'masses'. How many of you know people in the office that 'want' to do Atkins because Jane lost so much weight, but don't read the book, and don't understand anything Jane did to loose weight. So, they eat meat for 3 days, still sneak cookies and in two weeks, are back to the bad habits. Atkins popularity has gained FAD status, more misconceptions and failures will occur due to not understanding the whole complete program. Soon the failure rate will overcome the success rate and we will stop seeing all the hype and attention, THEN you will really have to explain why you are doing it. That is why I don't tell people what I'm doing. My answer to "Brian, you lost weight. What did you do? ... is and will be - eat right, exercised, burn more then you consume and stay away from overly processed foods. I don't feel I need to be a disciple and 'spread the word and truth'. > I just need to vent. > [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > sugar-free since 2/1/04 > low-carb since 2/17/04 |
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