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Flax seed vs. flax meal

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Lisette - 26 Mar 2004 16:46 GMT
Does flax seed have to be ground into meal in order to be efficacious?
I've been putting whole flax seed in my morning protein drink (Hood
carb-controlled dairy bev, protein powder {Isopure Vanilla}, 1/2 cup
of frozen fruit sans sugar like blueberries or strawberries).  Maybe
it's, er, passing on through without doing me any good <g>  I'm
thinking I perhaps need to purchase another coffee grinder for my flax
seed!  I could use the coffee grinder or spice grinder, but I don't
think I'd much care for the taste of curry spices or coffee in my
drink ;-)  Is there any point to using whole flax seed?

Lisette, Sacramento, CA
180/168/140  Atkins since February 23, 2004
Roger Zoul - 26 Mar 2004 17:02 GMT
:: Does flax seed have to be ground into meal in order to be
:: efficacious?

Generally, yes.  If you don't grind it, the seeds may pass through you
intact, and hence be of little to no benefit.

I've been putting whole flax seed in my morning protein
:: drink (Hood carb-controlled dairy bev, protein powder {Isopure
:: Vanilla}, 1/2 cup of frozen fruit sans sugar like blueberries or
:: strawberries).  Maybe it's, er, passing on through without doing me
:: any good <g>

:) very likely.

I'm thinking I perhaps need to purchase another coffee
:: grinder for my flax seed!  I could use the coffee grinder or spice
:: grinder, but I don't think I'd much care for the taste of curry
:: spices or coffee in my drink ;-)

Yes.

:: Is there any point to using whole
:: flax seed?

Well, people like seeds on crackers and stuff like that, but if you want
full benefit, then grind those puppies.

:: Lisette, Sacramento, CA
:: 180/168/140  Atkins since February 23, 2004
Susan - 26 Mar 2004 17:05 GMT
>Does flax seed have to be ground into >meal in order to be efficacious?

well, yeah, seeing as how the whole seed will exit your body whole, unchanged
and unused by your digestive process.

Susan
rosie - 26 Mar 2004 17:39 GMT
the whole seed will count as fiber.

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Susan - 26 Mar 2004 17:49 GMT
>the whole seed will count as fiber.

How, if it's unbroken and the fiber is unreleased and unabsorbed or absorbent?

Susan
Bob in CT - 26 Mar 2004 17:57 GMT
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How do you know it's unbroken? ;-)  I used to eat whole seeds but never
looked to see whether they were digested or not.

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Susan - 26 Mar 2004 18:17 GMT
>How do you know it's unbroken? ;-)  

You'll have to take my word on this, before we get into TMI.

Susan
rosie - 26 Mar 2004 18:20 GMT
Flax seed contains both soluble and insoluble fiber.
High fiber content of foods such as fruits, vegetables and whole
grains are necessary for the digestive system to work efficiently.
What makes flaxseed stand out above other whole grains is its mix of
fiber. Flax seed contains both soluble and insoluble fiber. Soluble
fiber has been known to have positive cholesterol lowering effects.
Health authorities recommend approximately 30 grams per day of
fiber. It is estimated that most Americans consume less than 15
grams per day of fiber. We need a little boost on this endeavor, don
't we? Just 1/8 cup (heaping) of flaxseed contains 6 grams of fiber,
the same you would get eating one and one-half cups of cooked
oatmeal. Add that to your oatmeal and you'll be well on your way to
the necessary requirement for your daily fiber intake.

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Priscilla Ballou - 26 Mar 2004 18:40 GMT
> Flax seed contains both soluble and insoluble fiber.
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> oatmeal. Add that to your oatmeal and you'll be well on your way to
> the necessary requirement for your daily fiber intake.

Yes, but it has to be cracked out of its shell to do any good.

Priscilla
Roger Zoul - 26 Mar 2004 18:26 GMT
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:: absorbent?

The seed itself could serve a fiber.....a rather large amount....but nothing
would be released and absorbed, so the nutritional value would be
zero....but enough seeds would certainly create bulk...probaby wouldn't
carry water well, either.  Not useful, imo.
Priscilla Ballou - 26 Mar 2004 18:39 GMT
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> zero....but enough seeds would certainly create bulk...probaby wouldn't
> carry water well, either.  Not useful, imo.

And if you have any diverticuli, they could cause a problem, like any
other seed.

Priscilla
John - 26 Mar 2004 20:08 GMT
I just read that seeds are not considered the problem they once were for
diverticuli. Who's on first??

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Roger Zoul - 26 Mar 2004 21:21 GMT
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:: And if you have any diverticuli, they could cause a problem, like any
:: other seed.

The medical community did an aboutface on that (amazingly).  I have many
diverticuli, and I love nuts.  When I have a nut binge, I never, and have
never, experience any problems.  In fact, the more nuts the better because
of the fiber.  Now I wish I had not mentioned nuts.... :)

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Priscilla Ballou - 26 Mar 2004 22:43 GMT
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> never, experience any problems.  In fact, the more nuts the better because
> of the fiber.  Now I wish I had not mentioned nuts.... :)

Really?  Cool!  I have multiple diverticuli (I saw 'em myself with my
own little eyes two years ago when I had a colonoscopy), and I've never
had trouble with seeds and so on, but I thought I was really lucky, or
just wierd.  Well, wierd in this *additional* regard.

Priscilla
Reb - 26 Mar 2004 19:36 GMT
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> zero....but enough seeds would certainly create bulk...probaby wouldn't
> carry water well, either.  Not useful, imo.

Agreed.  I read somewhere that flaxseed is one of the toughest seeds in
existence.  When I first bought some, I tried grinding them in a little
mini-chopper (like a tiny food processor), and it didn't cut through them at
all.  Just made 'em mad.  (Although a coffee grinder does an excellent job.)
It would take a whole lot of chewing to open a significant number of the
seeds.  The rest will pass through the body with no more benefit than eating
little plastic pellets.

Reb
jmk - 26 Mar 2004 21:13 GMT
> the whole seed will count as fiber.

and you'd get none of the omega-3s from the flaxseed

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Werdna - 26 Mar 2004 20:29 GMT
Dont grind too much in advance, it goes bad very quickly.  And those
little seeds can go right through your digestive tract if they are
whole.
revek - 26 Mar 2004 20:39 GMT
> Dont grind too much in advance, it goes bad very quickly.  And those
> little seeds can go right through your digestive tract if they are
> whole.

Freeze it if you grind too much.  I have some in a zipplock baggie
that is still malleable (no moisture collection/freezing hard or
clumpy) and still tastes and smells fresh 6 months later.  (Science
experiment).

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Roger Zoul - 26 Mar 2004 21:22 GMT
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:: clumpy) and still tastes and smells fresh 6 months later.  (Science
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good idea!
Lisette - 27 Mar 2004 00:26 GMT
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>good idea!

Thanks for all the info, everyone.  I went to Kohl's and bought
another grinder.  May take it back, it would do me good to get out the
Thai mortar/pestle and grind those "puppies" <ew, Roger, REALLY!>
myself :-)

Lisette
180/168/140
Atkins as of 2/23/2004
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sprudil - 27 Mar 2004 04:13 GMT
> Dont grind too much in advance, it goes bad very quickly.  And those
> little seeds can go right through your digestive tract if they are
> whole.

Grind in batches then freeze.  Keep current batch in fridge.

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