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Weight Loss Forum / Low Carb / March 2004No Mayo???
The other day I was driving by Burger King and saw that they had a "See our Low Carb Menu" sign in their window. I love Burger King burgers and just had to see what they were offering, so I went through the drive-thru and read over the menu and saw nothing Low Carb. I asked what was on their LC menu and the girl sounded a bit unsure of herself as she started to tell me about their low carb "menu". Sounded to me like it was only ONE item, similiar to the lettuce-wrapped hamburger like they have at Carl's and Hardee's. She said it had no mayonaise on it, as if that were a good thing. I thought it was funny that they would offer a LC item and not put mayo on it. What's up with that? Brigitte >I thought it was funny that they would offer a LC item and not put mayo on >it. What's up with that? Most commercial mayonnaises are full of sugar. CM That's incorrect. Here are the nutrition facts on Hellman's mayonnaise Serving size 1 tbsp Calories 100 Total fat 11 g Saturated fat 1.5 g Cholesterol 5 mg Sodium 80 mg Total carb. 0 g Protein 0 g Roger >>I thought it was funny that they would offer a LC item and not put mayo on >>it. What's up with that? > >Most commercial mayonnaises are full of sugar. >CM "Roger V. LaPlante" <rlaplant-delete@bellatlantic.net> wrote in message >>Most commercial mayonnaises are full of sugar. > That's incorrect. > Here are the nutrition facts on Hellman's mayonnaise She said *most*, not *all*. Of the six brands of mayonnaise on the shelf in my supermarket (and this is in Turkey, where adding things like this to food is not yet a common practice), five contain appreciable (reportable) amounts of sugar. I don't know what the situation would be in the case of mayonnaise made for the fast-food trade but I wouldn't care to speculate.  SignatureBob Kanyak's Doghouse http://kanyak.com >That's incorrect. > >Here are the nutrition facts on Hellman's mayonnaise There is sugar in it. The "Nutritional Facts" is not the ingredients list. Take only 1 tbsp of mayo and of course you are going to have little enough sugar to "round it down" to zero gram. Here is the, ahem, real truth as to what is IN it: Soybean Oil, whole eggs and egg yolks, vinegar, salt, sugar, lemon juice, natural flavors, calcium disodium EDTA used to protect quality. CM >Serving size 1 tbsp >Calories 100 [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >>Most commercial mayonnaises are full of sugar. >>CM You make my point. The amount of sugar is so insignificant that it is not listed on the nutrition label. Roger >>That's incorrect. >> [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] >>>Most commercial mayonnaises are full of sugar. >>>CM >You make my point. The amount of sugar is so insignificant that it is >not listed on the nutrition label. To me, it tastes incredibly sweet. It does contain sugar, and there are some people who don't eat sugar however "insignificant" (hence, all the people who pour splenda all over everything). The nutrition label is allowed to deceive people into thinking they are not eating sugar. If it's even *slightly* below 0.5g it's allowed to "round it down" to zero. That's why they select a tablespoon as the "serving size". I wonder what it would say if the "serving size" was perhaps, two tablespoons? (which is closer to what people actually take) CM If you will go out to the USDA site, mayonnaise has zero grams of sugar in 100 grams of product. Roger >>You make my point. The amount of sugar is so insignificant that it is >>not listed on the nutrition label. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >CM Here in Japan, carbs need to be listed to 0.1 units, so you don't get that "under 0.5 is zero" round-off like you do in the States. People in the U.S. really ought to push for more accurate labeling! Anyway, the different mayonnaises here all have slightly different counts. One brand I use has the following: Regular mayo (1T): 103 calories, 0.1 carbs. Reduced calorie mayo (1T): 50 calories, 0.4 carbs. doug On 3/30/04 11:31 PM, in article v71j60lpn4t9adkg5maff9hcmhk7prh1dp@4ax.com, > That's incorrect. > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >> Most commercial mayonnaises are full of sugar. >> CM > >I thought it was funny that they would offer a LC item and not put mayo on > >it. What's up with that? > > Most commercial mayonnaises are full of sugar. > CM Hmmm.....almost none of the mayonnaise on the supermarket shelves here have any sugar. Store brands or name brands. GT >> >I thought it was funny that they would offer a LC item and not put mayo >on [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >GT Is this the ingredients list? Or the "Nutritional Info"?. If so, where do you live? What are the brand names? EVERY brand on our store shelves contains sugar, from Hellman's to Kraft, to the "Health Food Store" brands (which contain Honey because doncha know it's supposta be better for ya), to generic store brands. CM who always reads the ingredient list. > >> >I thought it was funny that they would offer a LC item and not put mayo > >on [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Store" brands (which contain Honey because doncha know it's supposta be > better for ya), to generic store brands. There's a difference between being "full of sugar" and having sugar down near the bottom of the ingredients list. While it's true that most commercial mayonnaise has small amounts of sugar, it's not an appreciable amount. Whether somebody chooses to avoid them on this basis is up to them. But unless you're eating a huge amount of mayo at one sitting, the amount of sugar in the mayo is unlikely to have a major impact. That said, some people use the term mayonnaise for boiled dressings like Miracle Whip that *do* have substantially more sugar. SignatureAF >There's a difference between being "full of sugar" and having sugar down >near the bottom of the ingredients list. Near the bottom of the ingredients list does not always mean a small amount, it just means a smaller amount than the ingredient previous to it. Hellman's mayonnaise and other popular brands are incredibly salty and incredibly sweet. The two ingredients sit right next to each other. One tablespoon has an appreciably sugary and salty taste. That doesn't come from "next to no sugar", IMHO. The people who put together the "Nutritional Facts" label can easily select an amount that contains less than 0.5g of sugar (even if it's 0.49999 for example) as the serving size, so they can round it down to say "zero grams". People report all the time putting mayonnaise in their tuna, and I doubt they stop at one tablespoon. It takes more mayonnaise than that to make a serving of tuna salad. If sugar is ok on a low carb diet then why are people seeking substitutes? CM > >There's a difference between being "full of sugar" and having sugar down > >near the bottom of the ingredients list. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > tablespoon. It takes more mayonnaise than that to make a serving of > tuna salad. Well, we disagree on the taste. I don't think of Hellmans as sweet or salty in particular. It's not that I'm particularly tolerant of either taste, especially salt. I just don't taste it in mayo, and I've been known to lick "straight" mayo off the serving spoon! And, while I do use more than 1 tbs of mayo per can of tuna, the way I make tuna salad, one can is 3 or 4 servings. SignatureAF >>> >I thought it was funny that they would offer a LC item and not put mayo >>on [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >who always reads the ingredient list. > But it is still low in carbs and shouldn't be taken off foods because they are touted as being "low carb." I think that was the original topic. Jean M Loser and Quitter Signature348/315/180 - 5'10" Atkins Since 01/28/04 Quit Smoking On 03/07/04 Curves Since 03/26/04 Obviously BK doesn't get it. Mayo: I buy mayo at a store called Smart & Final. They carry restaurant supplies, which they sell retail to anyone. Over a year ago I bought a box of Best Foods Mayonnaise Packets. These are just like you would get at a fast food restaurant. It makes measurement very easy for FitDay, since each metallic packet is .5 ounces. It does not need refrigeration, and never spoils, since you use it as soon as it is opened. No sugar in the mayo. Cubit 308/261.5/165 http://techmart.com/~cubit/Chart17.gif > > >I thought it was funny that they would offer a LC item and not put mayo > on [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > GT Oops. There is some sugar in the mayo. FitDay database says carbs are 1% by calories. It must be a very small amount. > Obviously BK doesn't get it. > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > > > GT >Obviously BK doesn't get it. > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >No sugar in the mayo. Can you please provide me with the ingredients list? I've been seeking an easily available brand of mayonnaise that doesn't contain any sugar. I've heard of Dukes brand, but from where I live I'd have to specially order it, and it's not worth it to me. I prefer the stuff I make myself, but once in a while would love to not have to. CM I screwed up. It does have sugar. However, according to FitDay's generic mayonnaise listing, the carbs are 1% by calories. YMMV Cubit 308/261.5/165 http://techmart.com/~cubit/Chart17.gif > >Obviously BK doesn't get it. > > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > CM > Hmmm.....almost none of the mayonnaise on the supermarket shelves here have > any sugar. Store brands or name brands. Trader Joe's brand does not contain sugar. SignatureSaffire 205/162/125 - 5'2.5" Atkins since 6/14/03 Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333 Eat your mayo. :) Lemme see, I'm sitting on a 152 pound loss right now and I go through about two quarts of Best Foods Mayo every month. Some folks choose to avoid every atom of sugar on an ingredients list. That is their choice. But if one likes the taste of mayo it sure makes tuna and salmon taste really good with a touch of cracked pepper. I don't sweat the small stuff. TO ME artificial sugar and sugarfree mayo suck. Lee Rodgers Lowcarb Retreat http://www.lowcarb.org CHATroom http://www.lowcarb.org/parachat.html Low-Carb Connoisseur puts the dash in low-carb http://www.low-carb.com >The other day I was driving by Burger King and saw that they had a "See our >Low Carb Menu" sign in their window. I love Burger King burgers and just [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >Brigitte According to their nutritional page, their mayo has 0 carbs. The drive-thru gal didn't know what she was talking about. Jean M Loser and Quitter Signature348/315/180 - 5'10" Atkins Since 01/28/04 Quit Smoking On 03/07/04 Curves Since 03/26/04 > The other day I was driving by Burger King and saw that they had a "See our > Low Carb Menu" sign in their window. I love Burger King burgers and just [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Brigitte Mayo sucks anyway. Learn to live without it. ::: The other day I was driving by Burger King and saw that they had a ::: "See our Low Carb Menu" sign in their window. I love Burger King [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] :: :: Mayo sucks anyway. Learn to live without it. That's what I do...too many calories.... >:: Mayo sucks anyway. Learn to live without it. > >That's what I do...too many calories.... The nasty taste does it for me. Mustard is the way to go! :-) LCing since 12/01/03- Me- 5'7" 265/218/140 & hubby- 6' 310/234/180 On 3/31/04 12:32 PM, in article 20040330223206.06283.00000486@mb-m25.aol.com, "LCer09" <lcer09@aol.com> wrote: >> :: Mayo sucks anyway. Learn to live without it. >> >> That's what I do...too many calories.... > > The nasty taste does it for me. Mustard is the way to go! :-) Carb-wise, mustard actually had more carbs. doug >> The nasty taste does it for me. Mustard is the way to go! :-) > >Carb-wise, mustard actually had more carbs. > >doug True, but it doesn't taste like rancid grease either. I'll take the 1/2 gram of mustard carbs over that anyday. LCing since 12/01/03- Me- 5'7" 265/218/140 & hubby- 6' 310/234/180 > On 3/31/04 12:32 PM, in article > 20040330223206.06283.00000486@mb-m25.aol.com, "LCer09" <lcer09@aol.com> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > doug But, consider that if you use a good spicy mustard, you don't need a lot. Just a little dab'll do ya. SignatureMichelle Levin http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws. > >:: Mayo sucks anyway. Learn to live without it. > > > >That's what I do...too many calories.... > > The nasty taste does it for me. Mustard is the way to go! :-) I LOVE the taste of mayo! When I started Atkins and added asparagus to my diet more often, I was tentative at first, but then realized I could eat lots of mayo with them, which is the way I grew up eating them. I had FORGOTTEN how good mayo is! SignatureSaffire 205/162/125 - 5'2.5" Atkins since 6/14/03 Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333 > The other day I was driving by Burger King and saw that they had a "See our > Low Carb Menu" sign in their window. I love Burger King burgers and just [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > I thought it was funny that they would offer a LC item and not put mayo on > it. What's up with that? The folks at BK watched how people turned regular burgers into low carb and didn't bother to see why when it came to the details. To convert a regular burger to low carb, I order it without mayo and I ditch the bun. Why no mayo? Not because it has carbs and not because of the fat. I choose no mayo because without the bun the mayo slimes all over the place. I do it to reduce the *mess*. I seriously think this is why it has no mayo, becuase they don't realize it's the mess that causes a fair number of low carbers to ask for no mayo before they ditch the bun. > > The other day I was driving by Burger King and saw that they had a "See our > > Low Carb Menu" sign in their window. I love Burger King burgers and just [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > that causes a fair number of low carbers to ask for no mayo before they > ditch the bun. I'd rather have ranch dressing than the mayo, mess or not... Anyone know what the price difference is between the LC and the regular burger? Brigitte I got one the other day and the low carb was the exact same price as the full carb burger. Dave > > > The other day I was driving by Burger King and saw that they had a "See > our [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > Brigitte > She said it had no mayonaise on it, as if that were a good thing. > I thought it was funny that they would offer a LC item and not put mayo on > it. What's up with that? I think it's because mayonnaise is difficult to spread on lettuce. Also, by not including mayo, the "revised" burger is not only very low-carb, but considerably reduced in calories, which would make it appealing to more groups. One of the criticisms of the new low-carb menus most places have is that the items might be low-carb, but are extremely high in calories. This way Burger King can avoid that controversy altogether. If you specifically order it with mayonnaise, I'm sure they can stick it on there somehow. Before they specifically made "low-carb burgers" they did put mayo in with the lettuce when you requested a "Whopper with no bun." It was kind of glopped on, but it was there. Reb |
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