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Do eggs go bad?
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Roger Zoul - 11 May 2004 20:17 GMT I've got a carton of eggs in the fridge that have a sellby date of Feb 15, 2004. Should I toss them? They don't seem weird from the outside....
Susan - 11 May 2004 20:19 GMT >I've got a carton of eggs in the fridge that have a sellby date of Feb 15, >2004. Should I toss them? They don't seem weird from the outside.... Do they float if you put them in a bowl of water, or sink? (sinking is good, I believe).
Susan
Dawn Taylor - 11 May 2004 20:52 GMT >x-no-archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >Do they float if you put them in a bowl of water, or sink? (sinking is good, I >believe). Even if they do float, that doesn't mean they've gone bad -- it just means they're not fresh.
Dawn
Roger Zoul - 12 May 2004 00:34 GMT :: On 11 May 2004 19:19:53 GMT, sufein@aol.comnospam (Susan ) announced :: in front of God and everybody: [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] :: Even if they do float, that doesn't mean they've gone bad -- it just :: means they're not fresh. Ewww....a not fresh egg....
Dawn Taylor - 12 May 2004 04:37 GMT >:: Even if they do float, that doesn't mean they've gone bad -- it just >:: means they're not fresh. > >Ewww....a not fresh egg.... Personally I prefer them a tad less than fresh for hard-boiled -- much easier to peel that way.
Fresh eggs do fluff up a lot better for egg whites and omelets, though.
Dawn
mimsy - 13 May 2004 06:12 GMT >:: On 11 May 2004 19:19:53 GMT, sufein@aol.comnospam (Susan ) announced >:: in front of God and everybody: [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Ewww....a not fresh egg.... It's not even that....they began to evaporate. Not a huge deal. They float because of the air. Doesn't mean they are bad. Bad eggs stink to high heaven..there is no doubt that they shouldn't be eaten.
GT - 11 May 2004 20:32 GMT > I've got a carton of eggs in the fridge that have a sellby date of Feb 15, > 2004. Should I toss them? They don't seem weird from the outside.... Is it really worth getting food poisoning to find out? For $2, why risk it?
Jackie Patti - 11 May 2004 20:43 GMT >>I've got a carton of eggs in the fridge that have a sellby date of Feb 15, >>2004. Should I toss them? They don't seem weird from the outside.... > > Is it really worth getting food poisoning to find out? For $2, why risk it? You're not risking much with eggs. If they've gone bad, they'll stink to high heaven - there'll be no doubt.
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Ignoramus27199 - 11 May 2004 20:51 GMT >> I've got a carton of eggs in the fridge that have a sellby date of Feb 15, >> 2004. Should I toss them? They don't seem weird from the outside.... > > Is it really worth getting food poisoning to find out? For $2, why risk it? Eggs go bad in a comparatively nice way. They would be obviously unappetising looking and smelling way before they become actually dangerous. I ate quite rotten eggs during my 2 month stint in the soviet army, and felt great.
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Ada Ma - 11 May 2004 21:27 GMT > Eggs go bad in a comparatively nice way. They would be obviously > unappetising looking and smelling way before they become actually dangerous. I ate > quite rotten eggs during my 2 month stint in the soviet army, and felt > great. Is the rotten eggs part of the army training? Build you up so that you wouldn't succumb to biological weapons?
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Ignoramus27199 - 11 May 2004 21:28 GMT >> Eggs go bad in a comparatively nice way. They would be obviously >> unappetising looking and smelling way before they become actually dangerous. I ate [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > ;-) one might think so looking at them...
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Priscilla H Ballou - 11 May 2004 21:40 GMT Ada Ma <ada_ma2001@donotspammeyoueejithotmail.com> quoth:
>> Eggs go bad in a comparatively nice way. They would be obviously >> unappetising looking and smelling way before they become actually dangerous. I ate >> quite rotten eggs during my 2 month stint in the soviet army, and felt >> great. >Is the rotten eggs part of the army training? Build you up so that you wouldn't >succumb to biological weapons? Or to give you a point of reference so nothing after that seemed as bad?
Priscilla
Bob (this one) - 13 May 2004 06:56 GMT >>I've got a carton of eggs in the fridge that have a sellby date of Feb 15, >>2004. Should I toss them? They don't seem weird from the outside.... > > Is it really worth getting food poisoning to find out? For $2, why risk it? How would anyone get anything from a spoiled egg that's *cooked* except, worst case, a bad smell? Spoilage bacteria and pathogenic bacteria are different critters.
Crack one open. If the white is very runny, it's beyond its prime. If it doesn't smell bad, it's ok to use as long as i you cook it fully. I'd whisk it with some milk and make scrambled eggs if it smells ok, or use it in something like a quiche where it gets cooked fully.
Pastorio
stinkee - 13 May 2004 12:45 GMT >>> I've got a carton of eggs in the fridge that have a sellby date of >>> Feb 15, >>> 2004. Should I toss them? They don't seem weird from the outside.... Do they float?
If an egg floats then the shell has allowed air to get inside. Eggs that float should be tossed.
stinkee
Dawn Taylor - 13 May 2004 17:04 GMT >>>> I've got a carton of eggs in the fridge that have a sellby date of >>>> Feb 15, [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >If an egg floats then the shell has allowed air to get inside. Eggs >that float should be tossed. Not true.
It simply means that the egg's not *fresh*. There's a big difference between that and it going bad.
Fresh eggs fill up the entire shell. No air, so they don't float. They're also a bitch to peel when they're hard-boiled.
Give them a little time -- say, five days to a week -- and the egg will start to shrink a bit inside the shell. The space it leaves behind fills with air. With enough air in the shell, they float. But the egg hasn't gone bad. They've just lost the tiniest bit of moisture.
Refrigerated, still-in-the-shell eggs are edible for a very, very long time, actually.
Dawn
Bob in CT - 13 May 2004 17:59 GMT >>>>> I've got a carton of eggs in the fridge that have a sellby date of >>>>> Feb 15, [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > Dawn Hey, here's another neat thing to do with eggs. Don't know which egg is raw and which is hard boiled? Spin them, then stop then for a very short period and let 'em go. The one that keeps spinning is raw. (Thanks to Alton Brown for this.)
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Ignoramus27199 - 11 May 2004 20:35 GMT > I've got a carton of eggs in the fridge that have a sellby date of Feb 15, > 2004. Should I toss them? They don't seem weird from the outside.... boil them, open them up cut in half and sniff them, they are more likely than not quite edible. If they did go bad, you would see that or smell it.
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Roger Zoul - 12 May 2004 00:38 GMT :: In article <10a29mti8t91c6e@corp.supernews.com>, Roger Zoul wrote: ::: I've got a carton of eggs in the fridge that have a sellby date of [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] :: likely than not quite edible. If they did go bad, you would see that :: or smell it. I'll probaby crack a couple open to see what they look like inside -- then I'll toss the lot. I'll try to eat the new carton I bought today before letting an entire 3 months go by!
Ignoramus27199 - 12 May 2004 04:43 GMT >:: In article <10a29mti8t91c6e@corp.supernews.com>, Roger Zoul wrote: >::: I've got a carton of eggs in the fridge that have a sellby date of [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > I'll toss the lot. I'll try to eat the new carton I bought today before > letting an entire 3 months go by! boil a couple before opening, this way you will be able to see more. Let's experiment a little!
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freeborn - 11 May 2004 21:41 GMT > I've got a carton of eggs in the fridge that have a sellby date of Feb 15, > 2004. Should I toss them? They don't seem weird from the outside.... Yuck.
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Damsel in dis Dress - 11 May 2004 21:46 GMT >I've got a carton of eggs in the fridge that have a sellby date of Feb 15, >2004. Should I toss them? They don't seem weird from the outside.... I eat eggs that are pretty far past the date on the carton, but I'd call that one pretty iffy. You can put them all into a container of water to test for gas developing inside. If they float, get rid of them. That still doesn't insure that the ones that didn't float are okay.
I'd pitch 'em if it was me.
Carol
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DG511 - 11 May 2004 22:22 GMT >Damsel in dis Dress damsel-removethis@mailblocks.com writes:
>>I've got a carton of eggs in the fridge that have a sellby date of Feb 15, >>2004. Should I toss them? They don't seem weird from the outside.... [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >I'd pitch 'em if it was me. Same here. I'm self-employed, so I know what my time is worth, literally. Would I spend any time (at $X per hour) at all on this when I could buy fresh eggs cheaply at the grocery store? Absolutely not. I'd just pitch them. YMMV.
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Roger Zoul - 12 May 2004 00:36 GMT ::: Damsel in dis Dress damsel-removethis@mailblocks.com :: [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] :: when I could buy fresh eggs cheaply at the grocery store? :: Absolutely not. I'd just pitch them. YMMV. Still good info to know...what if it was only a week past the sellby date? Then would you pitch them? I've never seen a spoiled egg in my fridge....
DG511 - 12 May 2004 00:55 GMT >"Roger Zoul" rogerzoul2@hotmail.com quote:
>::: Damsel in dis Dress damsel-removethis@mailblocks.com >:: [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] >Still good info to know...what if it was only a week past the sellby date? >Then would you pitch them? I've never seen a spoiled egg in my fridge.... No, I'll keep eggs up to 3 weeks past the sell-by date. Then they go away. I don't even look in the carton. Not that this happens very often in the first place. But a home economist I used to go drinking with in my younger days told me that that was what she did, so I figured it was a good rule of thumb. I have no idea how good or bad the eggs are at that point, though.
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Damsel in dis Dress - 12 May 2004 01:00 GMT >Still good info to know...what if it was only a week past the sellby date? >Then would you pitch them? I've never seen a spoiled egg in my fridge.... I think the longest that I, personally, would use them past the date on the carton is about a month and a half.
I've never found a spoiled egg during my entire lifetime.
Carol
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curious - 12 May 2004 07:27 GMT Carol said, I've never found a spoiled egg during my entire lifetime.
Becky.. I hadn't either until within the last year here in Poland. I cracked it open and it was obviously bad. No doubt about it.
But, they don't refrigerate things here like they do in the states.
Becky P.
Roger Zoul - 12 May 2004 00:37 GMT :: On Tue, 11 May 2004 15:17:42 -0400, "Roger Zoul" :: <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] :: :: I'd pitch 'em if it was me. Yeah, an entire 3 months does seem extreme, given that I'm not in financial tights and would obviously rather not get sick.
Ignoramus27199 - 12 May 2004 03:34 GMT >:: On Tue, 11 May 2004 15:17:42 -0400, "Roger Zoul" >:: <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Yeah, an entire 3 months does seem extreme, given that I'm not in financial > tights and would obviously rather not get sick. Can you do a little educational experiment? Take an egg, boil it for 15 minutes, cool it and peel it and slice it in half. Report what you see.
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Roger Zoul - 12 May 2004 04:16 GMT :: In article <10a2otft996i331@corp.supernews.com>, Roger Zoul wrote: ::: Damsel in dis Dress wrote: [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] :: 15 minutes, cool it and peel it and slice it in half. Report what :: you see. Okay...I'll try to do it tomorrow...
Archon - 12 May 2004 07:50 GMT > :: Can you do a little educational experiment? Take an egg, boil it for > :: 15 minutes, cool it and peel it and slice it in half. Report what > :: you see. > > Okay...I'll try to do it tomorrow... MAybe they'll turn bad meanwhile! :)
Ada Ma - 12 May 2004 11:50 GMT > :: In article <10a2otft996i331@corp.supernews.com>, Roger Zoul wrote: > ::: Damsel in dis Dress wrote: [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > Okay...I'll try to do it tomorrow... My thinking is that you'd already spent more time here talking about the eggs than cooking them!
Roger Zoul - 12 May 2004 15:44 GMT ::::: Can you do a little educational experiment? Take an egg, boil it ::::: for 15 minutes, cool it and peel it and slice it in half. Report [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] :: My thinking is that you'd already spent more time here talking about :: the eggs than cooking them! That would definitely be true! Of course, eating them was/is the issue :)
Ignoramus20355 - 12 May 2004 16:16 GMT >::::: Can you do a little educational experiment? Take an egg, boil it >::::: for 15 minutes, cool it and peel it and slice it in half. Report [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > That would definitely be true! Of course, eating them was/is the issue :) have you tried boiling them yet?
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Roger Zoul - 13 May 2004 01:00 GMT :: In article <10a4e2knlm66u7a@corp.supernews.com>, Roger Zoul wrote: ::: Ada Ma wrote: [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] :: :: have you tried boiling them yet? Nope...I'm going to have to do that tomorrow...ran out of time today...but I'll get it done tomorrow...
jamie - 11 May 2004 23:34 GMT > I've got a carton of eggs in the fridge that have a sellby date of Feb 15, > 2004. Should I toss them? They don't seem weird from the outside.... They probably won't be as tasty as fresh egg, but they might not be spoiled either. If you keep them in an egg rack on the door, they tend to lose more moisture and absorb refrigerator odors. I would probably toss them for taste reasons, rather than safety reasons.
[elswhere on the aeb.org site, it says that expiration date is not mandatory, but they may be sold up to 30 days after packing. Some states or stores set an earlier expiration date. They are required to have a Julian date (1 to 365) on the carton, telling the day of the year that they were packed. They may be kept refrigerated 4 to 5 weeks in their cartons without noticable loss of quality]
Quoting From www.aeb.org (American Egg Board):
How can I tell if my eggs have spoiled?
The faster you use your eggs, the less time any potential bacteria will have to multiply. However, when properly handled and stored, eggs rarely spoil. Instead, as an egg ages, the white becomes thinner, the yolk becomes flatter and the yolk membrane weakens. Although these changes may affect appearance, they don't indicate spoilage and don't have any great effect on the nutritional quality of the egg or its functions in recipes. Rather than spoiling, if you keep eggs long enough, they're more likely to simply dry up -- especially if they're stored in a moisture-robbing, frost-free refrigerator.
But, like all natural organic matter, eggs can eventually spoil through the action of spoilage organisms. Although they're unpleasant, spoilage organisms don't cause foodborne illness. The bacteria Streptococcus, Staphylococcus, Micrococcus and Bacillus may be found on egg shell surfaces because all these species can tolerate dry conditions. As the egg ages, though, these bacteria decline and are replaced by spoilage bacteria, such as coliform and Flavobacterium, but the most common are several types of Pseudomonas. Pseudomonas can grow at temperatures just above refrigeration and below room temperatures and, if they're present in large numbers, may give eggs a sour or fruity odor and a blue-green coloring.
Although it is more likely for bacteria to cause spoilage during storage, mold growth can occur under very humid storage conditions or if eggs are washed in dirty water. Molds such as Penicillum, Alternaria and Rhizopus may be visible as spots on the shell and can penetrate the shell to reach the egg.
Discard any eggs with shells -- or, for hard-cooked eggs, egg white surfaces -- that don't look or feel clean, normally colored and dry. A slimy feel can indicate bacterial growth and, regardless of color, powdery spots that come off on your hand may indicate mold.
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Roger Zoul - 12 May 2004 00:34 GMT Jamie,
Thanks for the very nice answer. I'll use it in the future. I'll probably toss this batch, as I had already bought some before I realized I had these - hence the question. I don't have room for two cartons of eggs, and as one might guess, I don't eat eggs very much these days (for no reason in particular).
:: Roger Zoul <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com> wrote: ::: I've got a carton of eggs in the fridge that have a sellby date of ::: Feb 15, 2004. Should I toss them? They don't seem weird from the ::: outside.... [snip]
:: Quoting From www.aeb.org (American Egg Board): [snip]
SugarFreeSheila - 12 May 2004 01:22 GMT >I've got a carton of eggs in the fridge that have a sellby date of Feb 15, >2004. Should I toss them? I wouldn't risk it - toss 'em!
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Roger Zoul - 12 May 2004 01:30 GMT ::: I've got a carton of eggs in the fridge that have a sellby date of ::: Feb 15, 2004. Should I toss them? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] :: Sheila :: SugarFreeSheila.com I will, thanks SFS :)
SugarFreeSheila - 12 May 2004 01:54 GMT > SFS :) I like that acronym!!
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Bob (this one) - 13 May 2004 07:02 GMT >>I've got a carton of eggs in the fridge that have a sellby date of Feb 15, >>2004. Should I toss them? > > I wouldn't risk it - toss 'em! There's virtually no risk of anything bad happening. Old timers here in the Shenandoah valley stored eggs in their cold cellars for months, even as long as a year with very little spoilage.
Pastorio
Roger Zoul - 13 May 2004 10:42 GMT :: SugarFreeSheila wrote: :: [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] :: months, :: even as long as a year with very little spoilage. Wow....I'm keeping those eggs! :)
JCD - 12 May 2004 06:10 GMT Just chuck them. But be careful when throwing them in the bin. If they have gone off you won't know until you crack them. And you really don't want to smell a rotten egg........
JD
> I've got a carton of eggs in the fridge that have a sellby date of Feb 15, > 2004. Should I toss them? They don't seem weird from the outside.... Chakolate - 12 May 2004 19:18 GMT > I've got a carton of eggs in the fridge that have a sellby date of Feb > 15, 2004. Should I toss them? They don't seem weird from the > outside.... I've read this whole thread (so far) with some amusement. Those expiration dates on eggs are *extremely* conservative. Refrigerated eggs will often last at least a year with no problem. I've eaten eggs that were two years old. (Tasted terrible but didn't make me sick.)
You can leave eggs unrefrigerated and they'll still be good until the expiration date, although the salmonella count (if any) will probably go up.
Cute trick I learned back when I wasn't eating enough eggs to keep them fresh: oil the eggs before storing. It helps keep air from penetrating the shell, which is what makes them go bad.
Of course, that's not a very useful trick for this group, is it?
Chak
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Jackie Patti - 12 May 2004 20:40 GMT > Cute trick I learned back when I wasn't eating enough eggs to keep them > fresh: oil the eggs before storing. It helps keep air from penetrating the > shell, which is what makes them go bad. Actually, the "bloom" on eggs when they're laid accomplishes the same. We don't wash eggs here until we're ready to use them. They keep much longer that way.
Doesn't work in a consumer situation though since most people find streaks of poop on their eggs distasteful.
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JJ - 13 May 2004 01:50 GMT [snip]
> Doesn't work in a consumer situation though since most > people find > streaks of poop on their eggs distasteful. Wouldn't most folks find such streaks on anything distasteful?
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Bob - 14 May 2004 17:57 GMT Only if their raised wrong.
John V - 14 May 2004 17:59 GMT I was too chicken to say that myself
> Only if their raised wrong. Doug Lerner - 25 May 2004 12:55 GMT On 5/12/04 4:17 AM, in article 10a29mti8t91c6e@corp.supernews.com, "Roger Zoul" <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I've got a carton of eggs in the fridge that have a sellby date of Feb 15, > 2004. Should I toss them? They don't seem weird from the outside.... I just happened across this from the 1833 edition of "The American Frugal Housewife" by Mrs. Child.
"Eggs will keep almost any length of time in lime-water properly prepared. One pint of coarse salt, and one pint of unslacked lime, to a pailful of water. If there be too much lime, it will eat the shells from the eggs; and if there be a single egg cracked, it will spoil the whole. They should be covered with lime-water, and kept in a cold place. The yolk becomes slightly red; but I have seen eggs, thus kept, perfectly sweet and fresh at the end of three years."
doug
Jopie - 25 May 2004 15:53 GMT in europe eggs are not kept in the frigde. Supermarkets have them sitting on the shelves. But once in the frigde, keep them there. And.... in my experience: they stay good for a looong time there.
jopie
> On 5/12/04 4:17 AM, in article 10a29mti8t91c6e@corp.supernews.com, "Roger > Zoul" <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > doug Ada Ma - 25 May 2004 21:41 GMT It reminds me of my flatmates and myself trying to make salted eggs to save some pennies. Salted (duck) eggs costed about GBP 1 each from Chinese supermarkets in UK. So we put a few chicken eggs into heavily salted water for around 2 weeks, the egg yolks stiffen quite a bit and also turned slightly red but they weren't very salty.
> On 5/12/04 4:17 AM, in article 10a29mti8t91c6e@corp.supernews.com, "Roger > Zoul" <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > doug Carmen - 25 May 2004 23:11 GMT Hi,
On 25-May-2004, Ada Ma <ada_ma2001@DONOTSPAMMEYOUEEJIThotmail.com> wrote:
> t reminds me of my flatmates and myself trying to make salted eggs > to save some pennies. Salted (duck) eggs costed about GBP 1 each [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > slightly > red but they weren't very salty. Try it this way:
http://www.recipeland.com:8080/s/salted_eggs.html
Take care, Carmen
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