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Seeing Family and Friends a year later

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Deb in Northern California - 27 Nov 2004 10:04 GMT
I had some disappointing and them some good NSVs this past week.  I have not
seen any of these people since Christmas last year.  So far I have lost a
total of 65 pounds and my daughter has lost 41 pounds, between the two of
us, we have lost my youngest daughter who weighs a whopping 106 pounds.  I
have lost 40 of my 65 in the past year. On to my disappointments and my
happy moments with friends and family.

Went to see mom for her 79th birthday last weekend.  She tells my daughter
that she is impressed with her weight loss as it really shows on her then
proceeds to tell me that she does not see any difference in me.  I was truly
disappointed with that, but figure mom is not happy with me at the moment
any way and it is her way of hurting my feelings.

For Thanksgiving, went to see my best friend and her family for dinner.  I
walked in the door and her and her husband were amazed at how much different
I looked.  They could not get over the weight loss.  Even her mom, asked if
I was losing weight or just working out at the gym, toning up.  I told her
it was both.  They made me feel so good.

Then on to the ex-in-laws for dessert.  They had not seen me in a few months
and all of them made comments about my weight loss.  So the 7 people that
noticed surely offset my mother not noticing my weight loss.

At least I know that my co-workers, friends and non-blood family notice me
even though my own mother can not see any differences in me.

Climbing down off my soapbox now.

Debbie

319.4/253.6/(Xmas goal 250)/150
Miss Violette - 27 Nov 2004 10:19 GMT
sometimes people we care about are the first to push our buttons and if we
have displeased them they go out of their way to do it, you KNOW what the
scale says and you have the others, Lee,
> I had some disappointing and them some good NSVs this past week.  I have not
> seen any of these people since Christmas last year.  So far I have lost a
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Deb in Northern California - 28 Nov 2004 20:40 GMT
I have displeased her big time.  I don't even live that far away from her,
but have not desire to see her because of the negative attitude towards me.

Thank you for your support.

Debbie

> sometimes people we care about are the first to push our buttons and if we
> have displeased them they go out of their way to do it, you KNOW what the
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Nathalie W - 27 Nov 2004 10:35 GMT
I can so relate. I 've lost nearly 100 lbs and everyone has been commenting
on my loss except for mom... instead she bakes desserts and serves full-fat
dishes every time I come to her place for dinner. She is slim but has a lot
of weight issues, I think she has a hard time accepting that it is possible
to lose weight without starving or taking pills. And I 've always been the
fat daughter and now I don't consider myself fat anymore, it will take her
some time to get used to it.
But you are losing the weight for you and not for her so try to put her
comments aside... you have done great!
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> I had some disappointing and them some good NSVs this past week.  I have not
> seen any of these people since Christmas last year.  So far I have lost a
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Lesanne - 27 Nov 2004 11:42 GMT
Debbie, I really must say that in my past, the 50 people who made positive
comments about my weight losses never made up for the things my own Mother
used to say to me. Before Mom got sick, around twenty years ago, I began to
tell her how badly I felt when she made those comments to me. It was really
hard to do, but after I did it, sometimes in groups of people even, if that
was where she made the hurtful comment, she actually began to change. We had
around 10 years of a better relationship before she began to get the
Alzheimers, and I am grateful for it now, because if we had not she would be
in a nursing home, and I would be wracked with guilt.

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>I had some disappointing and them some good NSVs this past week.  I have
>not
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Deb in Northern California - 28 Nov 2004 20:41 GMT
I am not sure if everything will ever be okay with mom and me.  There are
issues that go way back and I just rather avoid her than deal with her
negative thoughts and guilt trips.

Thank you for your support.

Debbie

> Debbie, I really must say that in my past, the 50 people who made positive
> comments about my weight losses never made up for the things my own Mother
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Lesanne - 29 Nov 2004 00:27 GMT
Hope you can give her a miss at Christmas and enjoy :).

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>I am not sure if everything will ever be okay with mom and me.  There are
> issues that go way back and I just rather avoid her than deal with her
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> Debbie
nck - 27 Nov 2004 12:54 GMT
On 11/27/04 4:04 AM, in article 30r1q1F3372pkU1@uni-berlin.de, "Deb in
Northern California" <d.kester@NOSPAMcomcast.net> wrote:

> She tells my daughter
> that she is impressed with her weight loss as it really shows on her then
> proceeds to tell me that she does not see any difference in me.  I was truly
> disappointed with that, but figure mom is not happy with me at the moment
> any way and it is her way of hurting my feelings.
Mothers and their relations with daughters get very weird sometimes.  Mine,
who was certifiably nutty as I have remarked elsewhere, did the following
once:  I had finally learned to love veggies without loading them up with
butter (still prefer them that way now) and she started making an issue at a
family/friends dinner about my not buttering my corn.  I told her I didn't
like it that way and she kept pestering me about it.  When I left the room
for a minute to get something from the kitchen I came back and found she had
buttered the corn...dripping!  She seemed to regard my good habits as my
"showing off" and trying to "act like I was better than everybody else."
So you have a lot more company here, I'm sure.
Kate Dicey - 28 Nov 2004 10:44 GMT
> On 11/27/04 4:04 AM, in article 30r1q1F3372pkU1@uni-berlin.de, "Deb in
> Northern California" <d.kester@NOSPAMcomcast.net> wrote:
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> "showing off" and trying to "act like I was better than everybody else."
> So you have a lot more company here, I'm sure.

I feel very lucky to have avoided this aspect of motherhood...  Mine
just looks at me and says: You lost more weight!  Well done!  Mind you,
she's had to deal with two daughters with IBS and me with the gall
bladder problems as well, so she really doesn't care what we eat so long
as we are happy and pain free!  I was never fat as a child or young
adult.  It piled on in my 20's, so she also sees this as the 'real me'
emerging from the fat, and likes it.

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Miss Violette - 28 Nov 2004 23:33 GMT
> On 11/27/04 4:04 AM, in article 30r1q1F3372pkU1@uni-berlin.de, "Deb in
> Northern California" <d.kester@NOSPAMcomcast.net> wrote:
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> "showing off" and trying to "act like I was better than everybody else."
> So you have a lot more company here, I'm sure.
Lesanne - 29 Nov 2004 00:29 GMT
Uh oh. With my sense of humor, you Know what I want her to have done with
the greasy ole corn......

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> What did you do with the corn?
Miss Violette - 29 Nov 2004 03:19 GMT
me to is why I asked, Lee
> Uh oh. With my sense of humor, you Know what I want her to have done with
> the greasy ole corn......
>
> --
> Lesanne
> > What did you do with the corn?
Fred - 29 Nov 2004 05:48 GMT
Oh, put a stopper in it! (G)


>Uh oh. With my sense of humor, you Know what I want her to have done with
>the greasy ole corn......
The Matriarch - 29 Nov 2004 11:58 GMT
I admire your outlook on keeping on keeping on!! A mother doesn't
realize that the words that come out of her mouth can hurt a daughter. I
was always underweight untill my 30's, then in my 40's I became
overweight, so I've always joked and laughed at comments about my weight
problems. Reading this thread has put a new light on my thinking. I
think I owe my daughter an apology.  My daughter has always been very
thin, and underweight, which has been a concern of mine. Yesterday as I
returned the gr-children I noticed my daughter has a little stomach
developing and looks like she's gaining weight. She's in her late 40's.
I only see her once every month or so, so I notice things. I commented
on her little pooch, with a little pat and laugh, asking "What that?"
She replied it's her "fat tummy she's getting, and leave it alone". Then
I noticed she has been sitting with a small sofa pillow in her lap. And
she seems touchy about her weight  gain. Now I'm afraid I might have
offended her.  Do you think a apology letter would be enough?? Or should
I drive up and take her out for coffee and apologize for my
thoughtlessness?? A fat tummy has always been my problem so I don't
think I'm jealous. Also saying the wrong thing or making jokes about
things as a parent is a problem I'm trying to overcome. Any comments
about the apology?? Thank you. Keep up the good work!!! Your doing
great!!!
Laura - 29 Nov 2004 12:54 GMT
I would go up and talk to her over coffee. There may be other issues that
are going on that you are not aware of that are contributing to her weight
gain. Show her you care and don't critisize her (which is what mom's tend to
do). Good luck.

> I admire your outlook on keeping on keeping on!! A mother doesn't
> realize that the words that come out of her mouth can hurt a daughter. I
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> about the apology?? Thank you. Keep up the good work!!! Your doing
> great!!!
Lesanne - 29 Nov 2004 14:54 GMT
Okay that is the second time I had to laugh out loud this morning reading
this news.....

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> Oh, put a stopper in it! (G)
>
>>Uh oh. With my sense of humor, you Know what I want her to have done with
>>the greasy ole corn......
Fred - 30 Nov 2004 02:07 GMT
That's why we are here - to lighten your day.  Now reciprocate! (G)


>Okay that is the second time I had to laugh out loud this morning reading
>this news.....
cobalt - 27 Nov 2004 13:42 GMT
>At least I know that my co-workers, friends and non-blood family notice me
>even though my own mother can not see any differences in me.

Don't let your mom get you down.  I know thats hard,  my grandmother is about
as nasty as a woman can be towards my weight.  You worked hard and earned your
success!  If everyone else could see it, you know they are the ones to listen
to.  Congrats to you and your daughter, you guys are doing awesome! :D

Sarah
Laura - 27 Nov 2004 16:11 GMT
I think mothers can be very cruel at times. I know my mother can be. I have
been learning to ignore my mothers comments about my weight loss or I might
not like the things that come out of my mouth. She has her own weight issues
and can not deal with my sucess. Perhaps your mom is dealing with some
hidden feelings from her past that are being brought out by your weight
loss. Did she struggle with food or weight issues at some point in her life.
It might be that she can't acknowledge your weight loss because it is too
painful for her to do so. Just remember that you are doing this for yourself
and not for her. Her comments are not important as you getting to a healthy
weight are.

> I had some disappointing and them some good NSVs this past week.  I have not
> seen any of these people since Christmas last year.  So far I have lost a
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> 319.4/253.6/(Xmas goal 250)/150
Deb in Northern California - 28 Nov 2004 20:44 GMT
Mom has always struggled with her weight as have I.  I was over 200 lbs when
I was only 12 years old.  Everyone in the family has struggled.  I figure
one day I will get to a healthy weight, but like Lee (Miss Violet)  I will
only do what I can live with for the rest of my life.  I do not intend to do
the yo-yo route, as that is more detrimental to your health than maintaining
a high weight.

Thanks for your support.
Debbie

> I think mothers can be very cruel at times. I know my mother can be. I have
> been learning to ignore my mothers comments about my weight loss or I might
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Laura - 29 Nov 2004 01:21 GMT
She may be ignoring your sucess because she is jealous. And until she comes
to terms with her weight issues she'll never acknowledge your sucess. I
agree that it will only aggrevate you to see her when she has a negative
attitude towards you. Hopefully one day things will work out between the two
of you.

> Mom has always struggled with her weight as have I.  I was over 200 lbs when
> I was only 12 years old.  Everyone in the family has struggled.  I figure
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Elaine Kirkham - 27 Nov 2004 18:25 GMT
Congratulstions on losing that tremendous amout of weigh!! But is does
sound like your Mom is really mad at you ;-(  From the others, you know
the loss is really noticeable & you look great, so just ignore your Mom.
Hope she get over her snit with you really fast.
Elaine

>I had some disappointing and them some good NSVs this past week.  I have not
>seen any of these people since Christmas last year.  So far I have lost a
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Deb in Northern California - 28 Nov 2004 20:38 GMT
You hit the nail on the head, Mom is just mad at me and until the amends are
made between my brother and I (which will never happen), she will always put
me down.  I have always been the black sheep to her, so I have learned it
does not matter what I do, it will not be good enough for her.

Thank you for your encouragement Elaine.

Debbie

> Congratulstions on losing that tremendous amout of weigh!! But is does
> sound like your Mom is really mad at you ;-(  From the others, you know
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Kate Dicey - 28 Nov 2004 10:38 GMT
> I had some disappointing and them some good NSVs this past week.  I have not
> seen any of these people since Christmas last year.  So far I have lost a
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> 319.4/253.6/(Xmas goal 250)/150

I think your mother has special filters in her specs... ;)  Well done,
and a nice collection of NSVs!

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Deb in Northern California - 28 Nov 2004 20:44 GMT
Yes, she does, and as far as she is concerned I do everything wrong in her
eyes and I guess my weight loss is wrong to her too.

Thanks for your support.
Debbie

> > I had some disappointing and them some good NSVs this past week.  I have not
> > seen any of these people since Christmas last year.  So far I have lost a
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Kristin - 28 Nov 2004 18:33 GMT
Hi Deb,

I'm sorry your mom's reaction to your weight loss efforts wasn't what you
hoped it to be, but kudos to your friends and other family members for their
encouraging comments.

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>I had some disappointing and them some good NSVs this past week.  I have
>not
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Deb in Northern California - 28 Nov 2004 20:39 GMT
Thank you all for your encouragement, it means a lot to me to see that
others suffer the wrath of their mom's too.

Debbie

> I had some disappointing and them some good NSVs this past week.  I have not
> seen any of these people since Christmas last year.  So far I have lost a
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> 319.4/253.6/(Xmas goal 250)/150
 
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