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T & D - 27 Dec 2004 00:44 GMT Hey guys,
Just wondering if you-all would like to give your top tips for what has helped you lose with WW (if you have more than five, go ahead and give 'em!). I seem to remember tips about bagging servings of veggies and things so they would be ready to eat when you got hungry, using applesauce instead of fat (?) in recipes and stuff like that.
I've dusted off the treadmill and am going to put in right in front of the TV upstairs instead of downstairs in the dungeon, since I tend to dread going down there and being bored for 30 minutes. Exercising only works if you do it -- right! I am looking up recipes and writing my list of the good foods and gearing up for the New Year! I know this program is easy and I'm gonna go to new *lows* this year!
Thanks for any and all help!!!
Debbie
Lesanne - 27 Dec 2004 01:01 GMT 1) Make a plan (WW has winning outcome forms) 2) Journal every day 3) Don't quit the first time you don't lose (or even gain) 4) MUSIC to exercise with :) 5) Check in to ASDWW as much as possible and join challenges 6) Eat enough to be satisfied, don't try to be perfect 7) Don't quit until you see goal, no matter what happens 8) When you slip, start again, with the Next Meal not the Next Monday 9) Drink that water! 10) Remove trigger foods from sight, put 0 point veggies all over the place, and soups.
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> Hey guys, > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Debbie T & D - 27 Dec 2004 01:32 GMT Hi Lesanne (waving wildly over here)! I remember you from last year. People like you (or anyone that has lost and kept it off) give me hope and inspiration.
I like them all, but #6 & 7 are my personal demons.
Were you the one that posted the other day that you couldn't do lifetime for free now? Do they charge now even though you've lost all you wanted and all they required?
Thanks, Debbie
> 1) Make a plan (WW has winning outcome forms) > 2) Journal every day [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > > > Debbie Lesanne - 27 Dec 2004 11:34 GMT I can do lifetime for free as long as the scale says what it does this morning :):)... At least no one has told me I cannot. My usual Saturday morning meeting died, and I haven't bonded with another yet, but I stay close with WW anyway.
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> Hi Lesanne (waving wildly over here)! I remember you from last year. > People [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] >> > >> > Debbie Fred - 27 Dec 2004 02:47 GMT Excellent advice. Maybe I should follow it except maybe that music with exercise stuff.....
>1) Make a plan (WW has winning outcome forms) >2) Journal every day [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >10) Remove trigger foods from sight, put 0 point veggies all over the place, >and soups. Lesanne - 27 Dec 2004 11:34 GMT You could getcha an MP3 player, and rock while you ski ;)
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> Excellent advice. Maybe I should follow it except maybe that music > with exercise stuff..... [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >>place, >>and soups. Fred - 27 Dec 2004 14:52 GMT I don't rock while I don't ski. I merely CLASSIC!!! (g)
>You could getcha an MP3 player, and rock while you ski ;) Miss Violette - 28 Dec 2004 04:53 GMT surely you remember how to make music? Lee, running
> Excellent advice. Maybe I should follow it except maybe that music > with exercise stuff..... [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >10) Remove trigger foods from sight, put 0 point veggies all over the place, > >and soups. Lesanne - 28 Dec 2004 12:52 GMT Ho Ha Hee. I could name that tune in One note :):). Or remind Fred if he were handy....
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> surely you remember how to make music? Lee, running >> Excellent advice. Maybe I should follow it except maybe that music >> with exercise stuff..... Miss Violette - 28 Dec 2004 15:05 GMT snort, Lee
> Ho Ha Hee. I could name that tune in One note :):). Or remind Fred if he > were handy.... [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >> Excellent advice. Maybe I should follow it except maybe that music > >> with exercise stuff..... Kate Dicey - 27 Dec 2004 11:24 GMT > Hey guys, > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Debbie My top five:
Plan the main meals for the week, write the shopping list from the plan, and buy what is on the list!
If the recipe makes more portions than you need, serve it out into freezer plates and freeze freeze the extra portions for a busy day...
Feed the whole family the same main meal! Kids under 5 can get the extra fats they need from whole milk yoghurts and cheese.
If you cannot resist things like crisps/chips and chocolate cookies, don't keep them in the house! Buy them in for celebrations... Kids don't *need* chocolate cookies and greasy snacks every day. (I buy WW snack bars fro me, and DS has his own jar of after school snacks, but I restrict him to one or two items and fruit between shool and dinner. He eats school lunches and takes no breaktime snack)
Keep a large bowl of apples and oranges and other fruit in the house and allow the kids free access up to an hour before every meal. Track your own snacking. Also allow free access to tomatoes, carrots, celery, whatever else on the zero point list floats you boat (or theirs!). This teaches them that fruit and veg are great snacks, and they won't learn your former poor habits. Everything you gobble out of the fru9it bowl or vegetable basket counts towards your 5 recommended portions of fruit & veg per day. *Never worry about going over quota on the fruit and veg!
These were the things that made me find switching to WW easy. It was mostly just a return to good old fashioned childhood habits. Chocolate and cookies are fun, but they are expensive and they are treats, not a necessary part of the diet. For me, switching to low fat was necessary, but the health of the whole family had benefitted. Lower sugar options (I *hate* sweetners!) like smaller slices of cake and fresh fruit salad rather than sugar laden bought deserts were a great help to my Type 1 diabetic hubby too. Also, my son is more likely to dig out an apple, ask for a tomato, or have a slice of bread and olive low fat spread than to scoff chocolate and Cheezy Wotzits by the ton!
Some additional things I find useful:
Keep a vat of zero point vegetable soups like carrot and coreander or butternut squash on the fridge: if you realy feel the worm bite late at night, have some! Warm filling comfort food with no penalties and an extra veg portion! Virue in a soup mug!
Drink plenty! Doesn't matter if it's plain cold water or has a flavouring like squash or tea (so long as it's weak tea). Very often we have mis-programmed our bodies to ask for food when really we are dehydrated. Try hot water with a slice of lemon squeezed into it...
Never finish the kids left-overs because it would be a waste! If you do, it will be a waist - yours! - that suffers!
Tasting as you cook means a teaspoonful or two during cooking to check seasoning and progress, NOT a whole mouthful every time you take the lid off the pot! Likewise, get the kids to lick the spoons and bowls when baking! Have a single lick of raw cake mix just for fun and to join in, but remember to point it - count it you chocolate treat for the day! :)
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ray miller - 27 Dec 2004 11:27 GMT >Hey guys, > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >foods and gearing up for the New Year! I know this program is easy and I'm >gonna go to new *lows* this year! 1. Journal every day (www.fitday.com). 2. Find some exercise you enjoy, and can do for "the rest of your life"
3. obsess - OK this works for me, but it may not be very healthy :)
4. Eat more protein (1gm/lb bodyweight)
5. never give up.
6. If you eat too much remember all you have done is eaten too much. Get back OP and carry on - it's not the end of the world.
7. If you eat too much regularly then 6 doesn't apply find out why and change something.
8. your weight is corelated with the number of calories you eat. If you eat fewer calories than you expend you WILL lose weight. It may be slower or faster but you WILL lose weight.
9. be patient. It's taken years to get to where you are now. It's going to take a while to reverse it, but it CAN be done however heavy you are.
Ray
happy new year everyone
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Lesanne - 27 Dec 2004 11:38 GMT Good advice from Ray too. That #9, be patient? I think that is the whole key to getting to goal. Don't ever lose sight of the prize. Don't let anything make you quit, and EXPECT to want to quit regularly. Make a plan for when you lose motivation. That is one reason the meetings helped me, frequent reminders of where I was going.
Frankly, taking the rest of this weight off was not just about WW.
It was in developing what Ray said, a sort of compulsion to do it, but a deliberate one, some of us southern types have a saying about turtles. It one bites down on something it doesn't let go until it thunders. You have to get turtle mentality.
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> >>Hey guys, [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > > happy new year everyone Fred - 27 Dec 2004 14:56 GMT
>Good advice from Ray too. That #9, be patient? I think that is the whole key >to getting to goal. Don't ever lose sight of the prize. Don't let anything [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >one bites down on something it doesn't let go until it thunders. You have to >get turtle mentality. Until what it bites thunders, until the turtle thunders or until the skies thunder? (us northerners need clarity (g))
But I agree, you and Ray have nailed some great ideas for the journey.
Lesanne - 27 Dec 2004 22:48 GMT Well, it rarely rains here. Pretty much never thunders. So if one has to wait for it to thunder before the turtle lets go, it could be a long wait.
The Sky, Yankee.
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> >>Good advice from Ray too. That #9, be patient? I think that is the whole [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > But I agree, you and Ray have nailed some great ideas for the journey. Miss Violette - 28 Dec 2004 06:59 GMT the Yankee interpretation is anal retentive Fred. I know because I come from the Hills of MO but am with a Chicago south sider, Lee
> >Good advice from Ray too. That #9, be patient? I think that is the whole key > >to getting to goal. Don't ever lose sight of the prize. Don't let anything [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > But I agree, you and Ray have nailed some great ideas for the journey. Lesanne - 28 Dec 2004 12:49 GMT Lee who you callin' Anal? Wonder what your reader will do with that word callin?
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> the Yankee interpretation is anal retentive Fred. I know because I come > from the Hills of MO but am with a Chicago south sider, Lee [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] >> >> But I agree, you and Ray have nailed some great ideas for the journey. Miss Violette - 28 Dec 2004 15:04 GMT I was mostly referring to myself, it does accents pretty good actually, you should here it on the news group I read where the cats post in "meow chat" is more hilarious than reading the print, Lee
> Lee who you callin' Anal? Wonder what your reader will do with that word > callin? [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > >> > >> But I agree, you and Ray have nailed some great ideas for the journey. ray miller - 27 Dec 2004 17:18 GMT >It was in developing what Ray said, a sort of compulsion to do it, but a >deliberate one, some of us southern types have a saying about turtles. It >one bites down on something it doesn't let go until it thunders. You have to >get turtle mentality. I like that. Maybe thats the key. I'm very, very persistent when I set my mind to something. I do a good line in software fault diagnosis. One of my trademarks is that I doggedly follow every clue. I think I have some turtle blood in me somewhere:)
Ray
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Lesanne - 27 Dec 2004 22:48 GMT you got it
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> >It was in developing what Ray said, a sort of compulsion to do it, but a >>deliberate one, some of us southern types have a saying about turtles. It [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Ray Lipgloss Junkie - 27 Dec 2004 19:56 GMT Hey Ray,
I know I need to eat more protein but what does #4 mean: (1gm/lb bodyweight)? I certainly don't believe in Atkins (bacon and burgers - whatever!) but I'm looking for better daily/weekly protein guidelines. I love chicken breasts and sashimi.
Melanie have no idea/too afraid to look/140 lbs (I'm getting back on the scales Jan 1 but not going nuts in the meantime)
ray miller - 27 Dec 2004 22:02 GMT >Hey Ray, > >I know I need to eat more protein but what does #4 mean: (1gm/lb >bodyweight)? I certainly don't believe in Atkins (bacon and burgers - >whatever!) but I'm looking for better daily/weekly protein guidelines. >I love chicken breasts and sashimi. Eating 1gm protein for each pound of body weight is 'standard' to maintain muscle mass while losing weight. I weigh 'just over' 180 pounds so I should eat 180+ gms of protein. Thats about 750 calories (depending on source). The rest comes from fat and carbs. I rarely get 180gms but I usually get >= 140. Protein seems to control appetite well. Burgers and bacon don't sound like the best bet. Turkey and tuna are more what I eat, with loads of vegatables, and small portions of rice/pasta etc.
Ray
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Laura - 28 Dec 2004 00:24 GMT > >Hey Ray, > > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > more what I eat, with loads of vegatables, and small portions of > rice/pasta etc. Can you convert that into ounces for us metric challenged?
Lipgloss Junkie - 28 Dec 2004 00:57 GMT Hi Laura...I did a little research:
1 gram = .035 ounce (http://www.botanical.com/botanical/cvcookix.html#ust)
But according to the US Nutrient Database (http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/search/index.html) protein is measure in grams. Keep in mind that the grams aren't the weight of the food, but the protein content within it.
I'm not sure if I can eat 150 grams of protein and stay within 20 points a day but I do work on getting enough. Considering a chicken breast or salmon filet is 40 grams (3 pts), 1 cup of cottage cheese is 40 grams (4 pts) and an egg is 6 grams (2 pts). I don't know if I want to eat 12 of my 20 pts in protein. Melanie have no idea/too afraid to look/140 lbs
Laura - 28 Dec 2004 01:19 GMT Thanks for doing the research. I try and get as much protein in each day too. I guess the trick is to go for the leanest cuts of meat/chicken/fish to get as many grams without too many points. I'll have to look at my typical menu and see how many grams of protein I am getting.
> Hi Laura...I did a little research: > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Melanie > have no idea/too afraid to look/140 lbs Fred - 28 Dec 2004 05:00 GMT Recall, too, that Ray does a protein powder or shake which may be more protein with less calories or points, I'd guess. So a "refined" protein that is not packaged with fat (beef, peanut butter, similar) might be more friendly and also might prove satiating or satisfying.
>Thanks for doing the research. I try and get as much protein in each day >too. I guess the trick is to go for the leanest cuts of [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >> Melanie >> have no idea/too afraid to look/140 lbs Laura - 28 Dec 2004 14:44 GMT Now that I have a blender I'll have to look into getting some protein powder and make my own WW smoothies. Got to be a lot cheaper than buying them at WW.
> Recall, too, that Ray does a protein powder or shake which may be more > protein with less calories or points, I'd guess. So a "refined" [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > >> Melanie > >> have no idea/too afraid to look/140 lbs Miss Violette - 28 Dec 2004 15:08 GMT if you find a high protein low point version let us know, Lee
> Now that I have a blender I'll have to look into getting some protein > powder and make my own WW smoothies. Got to be a lot cheaper than buying [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > >> Melanie > > >> have no idea/too afraid to look/140 lbs Laura - 28 Dec 2004 20:59 GMT Will do. I will check out GNC store in town next week when I get home.
> if you find a high protein low point version let us know, Lee > > Now that I have a blender I'll have to look into getting some protein [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > > > >> Melanie > > > >> have no idea/too afraid to look/140 lbs ray miller - 28 Dec 2004 20:45 GMT >Recall, too, that Ray does a protein powder or shake which may be more >protein with less calories or points, I'd guess. So a "refined" >protein that is not packaged with fat (beef, peanut butter, similar) >might be more friendly and also might prove satiating or satisfying. I have a (2 scoop) protein shake for breakfast every day (shudder), and (1 scoop) after workout. As Fred says it's all protein, but it does keep me off the snacks till lunch. Protein shakes are not supposed to be used to control weight, It's always best to use 'real world' foods when you can. Besides shakes taste 'uuuugh'.
Ray
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Lesanne - 28 Dec 2004 12:51 GMT I get way less protein than that, despite trying to up it wherever. I think genetic makeup has something to do with optimal diet for people as well. ONE SIZE does not fit all, which explains why some people are perfectly happy on Atkins for Life (shudder)....
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> Thanks for doing the research. I try and get as much protein in each day > too. I guess the trick is to go for the leanest cuts of [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >> Melanie >> have no idea/too afraid to look/140 lbs Laura - 28 Dec 2004 14:45 GMT I eat a fair amount of protein already. I learned early on that protein keeps me satisfied not carbs.
> I get way less protein than that, despite trying to up it wherever. I think > genetic makeup has something to do with optimal diet for people as well. ONE [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > >> Melanie > >> have no idea/too afraid to look/140 lbs dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers - 30 Dec 2004 18:36 GMT Newbie here.
My top five tips
1. Weigh it before eating 2. Write it down in journal before eating 3. Vegetable soup - gallons of the stuff made from non-startchy veggies 4. Exercise at least 3 times per week. For me it's cycling - if I've only a light shopping to do I use my bicycle instead of the car + cycle to WW meetings 5. Do not *ever* plan to lose a specific amount of weight in a specific time - that is short-termism and setting self up for failure. Have a long-term outlook.
Cheers, helen s
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Miss Violette - 31 Dec 2004 03:51 GMT welcome Lee
> Newbie here. > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > --Due to financial crisis the light at the end of the tunnel is switched off-- Laura - 27 Dec 2004 14:37 GMT You've gotten some excellent advise from Lesanne and Ray. In addition to their tips I'll suggest that you make small changes, one at a time. Only make changes that you can live with for the rest of your life. Little things like switching from whole milk to 2% to 1% gradually can make the transition easier. Switching from regular soda to sugar free or seltzer can make a difference in the calorie department. If you follow the WW program and journal, drink your water, eat your fruits, veggies and dairy there's not a lot of room left for junk. Look for heathly alternatives for snacking. All of these put together will make a difference in the long run. And remember this is not a race. Don't be in a hurry to lose the weight. Be patient and it will come off.
> Hey guys, > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Debbie Linda J - 28 Dec 2004 01:40 GMT I've really only got one, and if I don't follow it, I'm totally off program--weigh, measure, and count everything.
-- Linda J
> Hey guys, > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Debbie Miss Violette - 28 Dec 2004 07:13 GMT > Hey guys, > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Debbie 1. Do this for you and only you. 2. Only do things while you are losing that you can commit to for the rest of your life. If you do things while you are losing but quit them after you reach goal you will undo the work you have done. I lose slower than if I exercised more but I am sure I will keep off what I have lost. I do try different exercises and expect I will find one eventually that I can commit to, until then I have accepted slower losses in the knowledge I am not setting myself up to fail by quitting a hated exercise when I get to goal. 3. if you tend toward perfectionism, find a way to be perfect that does not involve food choices or being on points at all times. For me it is being totally obsessed by drinking my water and filling out my food journal. 4. Drink your water. I hate water but am able to commit to it for the rest of my life because I drink half my body weight in ounces each day. This means I am doubly rewarded by losing. as I lose I am not only happy to have lost but get to drink less water as I go.
sorry I don't have much more than that to offer.
Lee
Lesanne - 28 Dec 2004 12:53 GMT Hey number three is a pearl.
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> >> Hey guys, [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] > > Lee Miss Violette - 28 Dec 2004 15:07 GMT I think figuring that one out is what has kept me going, if I had relied on eating perfectly as to choices or points I would have quit long ago, Lee
> Hey number three is a pearl. > [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] > > > > Lee T & D - 28 Dec 2004 17:10 GMT >> 1. Do this for you and only you. > 2. Only do things while you are losing that you can commit to for the rest [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Lee Well, that's excellent advice, Lee. Escpecially the one about perfectionism -- gets me every time. I do like to sit around and doodle though, so the tip about being a perfectionist in other ways and keeping my journal is the one that I like most about these tips.
Thanks!
Debbie
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