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krys - 25 Jan 2005 08:27 GMT
Hi folks,

Well, I'm feeling icky in a WW sense, and figured here was the place to
vent..... I tend not to post here much at the mo' - not just cos I'm busy -
but also cos when I'm having a hard time I tend to clam up instead of
sharing.   Which is daft as sometimes just to vent helps anyway, and besides
which, I could probably use the kind of support you get here.

Just before Christmas I got down to just below Goal.  At my first WI after
Christmas I was up 1.6, which was ok as these things go.  So there I was
plodding along, looking forward to getting back down again.....

Over Christmas I ended up smoking again for a couple of weeks.  Come the
beginning of January, I quit again - relatively easily but......  the
weekend before last my Brother and his wife had a joint 30th house party.
He smokes - as did quite a few other guests.  I found it really hard.
Really hard.  But I made it - I didn't smoke.  However, what I did do was
eat large amounts of BAD food, and drink too much - in a attempt to keep
myself busy, distracted, whatever.  Really - I do mean BAD.  I wish people
wouldn't do buffet type food - I have NO off button when it comes to such
things.

I didn't WI last week, and got back on track as ever.  I will WI this week,
and the indication from the gym scales is NOT good - I think I'll be up
again.  I hate it when I get gains in a row, I feel like it's all coming
back.  I keep trying to remember to focus on the positive - that I didn't
smoke and am still not smoking - but it's hard.  When you struggle for each
pound lost, and the gains come so easily, and you know how long it'll take
you to get rid of them again, even when you know you can do it.......well,
it's disheartening to say the least.

Virtually every weekend holds a challenge.  This weekend is hubby's
birthday - one dinner out, one pub lunch.  Next weekend is my delayed
Christmas do and then an overnight at friends.  One weekend clear after
that, then we're away to Boulogne for a weekend - and I'd really been hoping
to let go a little that weekend which I won't feel able to do if I'm not far
enough back down again......

*sigh*

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krys

UK 157/???/126
Started March 1st 2001
GOAL August 16th 2001 and July 22nd 2004
...slippery slope?...

Lesanne - 25 Jan 2005 13:17 GMT
I don't have that much to say, except that after a few months of wandering
around in one six land, even as bad as 170 one morning, I am now barely back
in the one fives. Consistently for this past week, either 159.5 or 160.

This Is Never Ever Ever going to be easy. Still, for me, getting out those
old lists I made early on in 2002 at 247 pounds is so helping me now.

The alternative to "getting over it" (the icky) is to get fat again. I
really believe this. SO just Do it. Get over it. Make a plan for one of
those challenges coming up where you don't eat too much.

I watch for you, you being one of us long time strugglers. It matters to me
deeply that each and every one of us stays near or at goal weight.

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Lesanne
365/161.5/164

> Hi folks,
>
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>
> *sigh*
krys - 01 Feb 2005 23:41 GMT
Thankyou Lesanne.
As you can see - I did go up - I'm now up 3 lbs on where I was before
Christmas.  And I know that doesn't sound like a lot, but it sure is to me.
I'm fairly sure this week is going to be bad too - which is annoying, since
I've been back to the usual routine for the last couple of weeks - I got
those challenges in on points, so I should be doing better than I am.  The
good news is that my body fat hasn't increased, so I guess maybe it's more
water or maybe even more muscle?  LIke you said - this is never ever going
to be easy - and I'm just going to have to hang in there, take care, and try
not to let it get me down too much.

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krys

UK 157/128.8/126
Started March 1st 2001
GOAL August 16th 2001 and July 22nd 2004
...going nowhere fast...

> I don't have that much to say, except that after a few months of wandering
> around in one six land, even as bad as 170 one morning, I am now barely back
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> >
> > *sigh*
Kristin - 05 Feb 2005 21:29 GMT
aww krys, *hugs*... I hope you are feeling better today... smile!!! :)
you've come SO far!!!!

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~Kristin
285.2/277.8/164

-7.4 so far!

> Thankyou Lesanne.
> As you can see - I did go up - I'm now up 3 lbs on where I was before
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>> >
>> > *sigh*
Miss Violette - 30 May 2005 16:00 GMT
I needed to read this thread, my traveling is doing the same to me and my
weight, and I am staying in points but the quality of choices and swelling
from being in the car are NOT helping, I keep telling myself this is life
and if I can live life while losing surely maintaining won't be so horrid,
Lee, hoping this is true anyway
> Thankyou Lesanne.
> As you can see - I did go up - I'm now up 3 lbs on where I was before
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> > > GOAL August 16th 2001 and July 22nd 2004
> > > ...slippery slope?...
Brenda Hammond - 25 Jan 2005 15:37 GMT
Lesanne already said it all.  I'd just like to wish you luck and let you
know
that it's like this for many of us, we just have to do our best and YOU can
do it!  Good luck.

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Brenda
209/195/155

> Hi folks,
>
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>
> *sigh*
krys - 01 Feb 2005 23:42 GMT
Thanks for the positive vibes - it definitely helped take the sting out of
the gain.....  I know it can be done, I just have no patience! :)

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krys

UK 157/128.8/126
Started March 1st 2001
GOAL August 16th 2001 and July 22nd 2004
...going nowhere fast...

> Lesanne already said it all.  I'd just like to wish you luck and let you
> know
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> >
> > *sigh*
Brenda Hammond - 02 Feb 2005 05:14 GMT
I can relate to that.  I am also one with little or no patience.  Good
luck next week Kris.

> Thanks for the positive vibes - it definitely helped take the sting out of
> the gain.....  I know it can be done, I just have no patience! :)
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>> >
>> > *sigh*
Elaine Kirkham - 25 Jan 2005 16:28 GMT
Oh Krys, you are having a bad time, aren't you? Sometimes it's best to
wait till the celebrations are over & then do the damage control. But
try to keep some control on what you eat - particularly the really high
point items. Remember when you do go off program, that you also retain
water as part of the gain. Just get back OP as soon as you can. Wish you
luck.
Elaine

>Hi folks,
>
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>
>  
krys - 01 Feb 2005 23:44 GMT
Hi Elaine,

Yeah - but there's always another challenge/celebration on the horizon...
I'm trying to keep it all within points, but all this guessing is
hard.......  I just need a little more patience to let the good outweigh the
bad......but I have to admit it is getting me down a bit at the moment.
Still, maybe the scales will surprise me this week - though I doubt it, as
they seem to be going up not down.......but you never know :)

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krys

UK 157/128.8/126
Started March 1st 2001
GOAL August 16th 2001 and July 22nd 2004
...going nowhere fast...

> Oh Krys, you are having a bad time, aren't you? Sometimes it's best to
> wait till the celebrations are over & then do the damage control. But
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> >
> >*sigh*
Linda J - 26 Jan 2005 00:46 GMT
I tend to do the same, Krys, and just sit and read and mope when things
aren't going as fast as I want.

Keep reading and posting.

--
Linda J
(252)/211.2/208.4/10%--190
> Hi folks,
>
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> GOAL August 16th 2001 and July 22nd 2004
> ...slippery slope?...
krys - 01 Feb 2005 23:44 GMT
Thanks Linda - I'll try if you will :)

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krys

UK 157/128.8/126
Started March 1st 2001
GOAL August 16th 2001 and July 22nd 2004
...going nowhere fast...

> I tend to do the same, Krys, and just sit and read and mope when things
> aren't going as fast as I want.
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> > GOAL August 16th 2001 and July 22nd 2004
> > ...slippery slope?...
Fred - 26 Jan 2005 01:14 GMT
Hey, buck up.  (easy to say)

But I think a few of us know the feelings.  But you have done it
before and you can do it again.  And you may blow it occasionally but
you know how to do the program.  

You also have to figure out how to celebrate without food or DRINK
being the main draw of the celebrations, particularly all those are
are still upcoming.  So celebrate but in WW-style.  That is sample but
don't eat everything.  And nurse those drinks.  You do not have to be
inebriated to enjoy your husband's birtday, at least, I hope not! (G)

And then, again, you can always come back after it is all over and
work your butt off again.  

I will sympathize as smoking was never an issue, here.  Just food.

Good luck (as I plan to skip wi tomorrow!!!!)


>Hi folks,
>
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>
>*sigh*
krys - 01 Feb 2005 23:47 GMT
> Hey, buck up.  (easy to say)

But said by someone who knows where I am.....metaphorically speaking.

> But I think a few of us know the feelings.  But you have done it
> before and you can do it again.  And you may blow it occasionally but
> you know how to do the program.

I do - but it's still hard.  I always want results faster than I can have
them.  And my motivation/will power seem a little wobbly at the moment, so I
need to address that.

> You also have to figure out how to celebrate without food or DRINK
> being the main draw of the celebrations, particularly all those are
> are still upcoming.  So celebrate but in WW-style.  That is sample but
> don't eat everything.  And nurse those drinks.  You do not have to be
> inebriated to enjoy your husband's birtday, at least, I hope not! (G)

I don't HAVE to be inebriated but.......*grin*

> And then, again, you can always come back after it is all over and
> work your butt off again.

I am, I am......but I think it's going to be a little while for the good to
outweigh all the January bad - even though I managed to keep it all within
points for his birthday.

> I will sympathize as smoking was never an issue, here.  Just food.

I think I just have an addict personality.......

> Good luck (as I plan to skip wi tomorrow!!!!)

I'm so tempted to skips again this week - having had the predicted gain last
week......but I'd best not :)

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krys

UK 157/128.8/126
Started March 1st 2001
GOAL August 16th 2001 and July 22nd 2004
...going nowhere fast...

Fred - 02 Feb 2005 03:48 GMT

>> Hey, buck up.  (easy to say)
>
>But said by someone who knows where I am.....metaphorically speaking.

England, somewhere in the land of Maintenance (or lurking nearby)

>> But I think a few of us know the feelings.  But you have done it
>> before and you can do it again.  And you may blow it occasionally but
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>them.  And my motivation/will power seem a little wobbly at the moment, so I
>need to address that.

The issue I have been harping on lately is that Maintenance is more
than just keeping with the points that hold you steady.  You/WE need
to remember to drop down points from our Maintenace level when we are
above our maintenance weight.  And that is probably the hardest part.
Lessening the amount of food which kept us level so that we can LOSE
again is discomforting.

>> You also have to figure out how to celebrate without food or DRINK
>> being the main draw of the celebrations, particularly all those are
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>
>I don't HAVE to be inebriated but.......*grin*

I will allow this one by.... (g)

>> And then, again, you can always come back after it is all over and
>> work your butt off again.

>I am, I am......but I think it's going to be a little while for the good to
>outweigh all the January bad - even though I managed to keep it all within
>points for his birthday.

>> I will sympathize as smoking was never an issue, here.  Just food.
>
>I think I just have an addict personality.......

Food is pretty much mine and maybe my outdoor activities.

>> Good luck (as I plan to skip wi tomorrow!!!!)
>
>I'm so tempted to skips again this week - having had the predicted gain last
>week......but I'd best not :)

Best from this side of the land on this side of the pond.
krys - 02 Feb 2005 23:39 GMT
> England, somewhere in the land of Maintenance (or lurking nearby)

yep - you found me *grin*

> The issue I have been harping on lately is that Maintenance is more
> than just keeping with the points that hold you steady.  You/WE need
> to remember to drop down points from our Maintenace level when we are
> above our maintenance weight.  And that is probably the hardest part.
> Lessening the amount of food which kept us level so that we can LOSE
> again is discomforting.

Now this is a problem for me.  I live on the LOSING points range + activity
points already.  I guess this is because there has always been some big
event from which to spend a few weeks recovering.......and then the next one
rolls around, and the next.....so I don't have a maintenance level per se.

WI is tomorrow morning......I don't know what it's going to bring.  Not sure
I want to know, but there you go.  But I did some reflecting today - stepped
back and looked at the bigger picture.  Yes - 3lbs up is not where I want to
be (or more if that's the case tomorrow), and I will have to get it sorted.
But overall - things are pretty good.  It's only 3lbs - not 33.  Little
steps......and I'll get there.

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krys

UK 157/128.8/126
Started March 1st 2001
GOAL August 16th 2001 and July 22nd 2004
...going nowhere fast...

Fred - 03 Feb 2005 01:18 GMT


>> England, somewhere in the land of Maintenance (or lurking nearby)
>
>yep - you found me *grin*

I could hear the groaning (G)

>> The issue I have been harping on lately is that Maintenance is more
>> than just keeping with the points that hold you steady.  You/WE need
>> to remember to drop down points from our Maintenace level when we are
>> above our maintenance weight.  And that is probably the hardest part.
>> Lessening the amount of food which kept us level so that we can LOSE
>> again is discomforting.

>Now this is a problem for me.  I live on the LOSING points range + activity
>points already.  I guess this is because there has always been some big
>event from which to spend a few weeks recovering.......and then the next one
>rolls around, and the next.....so I don't have a maintenance level per se.

I think that is what happened here from around Thanksgiving through
Christmas and New Years and getting a bit too loose and sloppy.  

>WI is tomorrow morning......I don't know what it's going to bring.  Not sure
>I want to know, but there you go.  But I did some reflecting today - stepped
>back and looked at the bigger picture.  Yes - 3lbs up is not where I want to
>be (or more if that's the case tomorrow), and I will have to get it sorted.
>But overall - things are pretty good.  It's only 3lbs - not 33.  Little
>steps......and I'll get there.

Good luck tomorrow.  You're right, it also is not 60 pounds.
Miss Violette - 30 May 2005 16:09 GMT
now this is the attitude that will help you get there, Lee

> > England, somewhere in the land of Maintenance (or lurking nearby)
>
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> GOAL August 16th 2001 and July 22nd 2004
> ...going nowhere fast...
Doug Lerner - 26 Jan 2005 04:31 GMT
As a long-term dieter still trying and hoping to get to goal, all I can
say to you is...IT IS GREAT THAT YOU POSTED!

It's still just a few weeks past the holidays. Do you know how many
people will ignore the issues and problems and coast along off the wagon
(food, whatever) for MONTHS and have huge REBOUNDS before they try to
take things in hand?

You should feel great (and I'm not just saying this) for posting and
trying to grapple with the problem after such a relatively short lapse -
no matter how bad.

If you can get yourself motivated now, these last few weeks will
literally be just a "blip" overall.

Good luck!

doug

p.s. I smoke one cigarette ever 10 years. :)

> Hi folks,
>
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>
> *sigh*
Kristin - 30 Jan 2005 07:42 GMT
What a great post, Doug.

Yes, krys, posting here is a great testimonial to yourself. Know that we are
all here for you to vent to, cry to, lean on, whatever. And whatever the
scale says, just remember you stayed away from those evil cancer sticks!!!
WTG!

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~Kristin
285.2/282.2/164

> As a long-term dieter still trying and hoping to get to goal, all I can
> say to you is...IT IS GREAT THAT YOU POSTED!
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>>
>> *sigh*
krys - 01 Feb 2005 23:49 GMT
Thanks Kristin - no doubt I'll be back here and venting soon enough.......

Oh - and I've still not smoked - that's 4 weeks now - must remember that!

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krys

UK 157/128.8/126
Started March 1st 2001
GOAL August 16th 2001 and July 22nd 2004
...going nowhere fast...

> What a great post, Doug.
>
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> >>
> >> *sigh*
krys - 01 Feb 2005 23:49 GMT
Thanks Doug.  You're right.  Yes, I've put on 3lbs, but you're right -
that's not the end of the world - I'm dealing with it now...... I know it'll
take a while to get it sorted, but that it can be done.  Thanks for the
positivity :)

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krys

UK 157/128.8/126
Started March 1st 2001
GOAL August 16th 2001 and July 22nd 2004
...going nowhere fast...

> As a long-term dieter still trying and hoping to get to goal, all I can
> say to you is...IT IS GREAT THAT YOU POSTED!
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>
> p.s. I smoke one cigarette ever 10 years. :)
Hazell - 27 Jan 2005 07:50 GMT
I know its disheartening. I've been nearly at goal for 6 months.  Don't lose
heart though, and try not to miss any meetings. Even when I have had a
really bad week I still go for the weigh in.  You sooner you face the music
the sooner you can put things right.

 Giving up smoking is realy hard and all credit to you for sticking it out.
When I gave up three years I put on three stone - hence joining WW in the
first place.  Keep at it.  You are almost there.  Congratulations
Hazell

> Hi folks,
>
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> GOAL August 16th 2001 and July 22nd 2004
> ...slippery slope?...
krys - 01 Feb 2005 23:50 GMT
I don't go to meetings anymore - I haven't for a couple of years.  I found
that as a maintainer I didn't get the support I was looking for.  I weigh in
here, I follow the programme, and this group is my meeting :)  The gain
was - is - disheartening, especially as I fear there may be more on the
way...... but I'll just have to turn it around......

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krys

UK 157/128.8/126
Started March 1st 2001
GOAL August 16th 2001 and July 22nd 2004
...going nowhere fast...

> I know its disheartening. I've been nearly at goal for 6 months.  Don't lose
> heart though, and try not to miss any meetings. Even when I have had a
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> > GOAL August 16th 2001 and July 22nd 2004
> > ...slippery slope?...
Miss Violette - 30 May 2005 16:15 GMT
I have been close to goal for a while, and I still haven't quit smoking, I
am being real for me, I want to deal with my weight and at least know what I
actually should be weighing before I can commit to quitting, Lee
> I don't go to meetings anymore - I haven't for a couple of years.  I found
> that as a maintainer I didn't get the support I was looking for.  I weigh in
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> > > GOAL August 16th 2001 and July 22nd 2004
> > > ...slippery slope?...
Miss Violette - 31 Jan 2005 15:59 GMT
the good news is that you haven't given up, hang in there, you know what to
do and will get there, Lee,
> Hi folks,
>
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> GOAL August 16th 2001 and July 22nd 2004
> ...slippery slope?...
krys - 01 Feb 2005 23:51 GMT
Thank you Lee - I sure hope so :)

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krys

UK 157/128.8/126
Started March 1st 2001
GOAL August 16th 2001 and July 22nd 2004
...going nowhere fast...

> the good news is that you haven't given up, hang in there, you know what to
> do and will get there, Lee,
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> > GOAL August 16th 2001 and July 22nd 2004
> > ...slippery slope?...
 
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