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Weight Loss Forum / WeightWatchers / January 2005lost 4lb in 3 days
OKay it may seem too much but I think I am just losing mostly water (remember I put on 7lb in one week, probably water). But its better than nowt. My biggest downfall in life is butter. I love it. But I cannot cut down to a thin amount, its all or nothing, so I have not had any butter in 3 days. I have replaced it with dairylea light. I have also stopped having bread, have replaced it with ryvitas. Dry and a bit like cardboard, but nice with a little bit of dairylea light. Am drinking more squash (sugar free) and am now having breakfast - 2 wheetbix with skimmed milk. Tonight I am going to have 100g (uncooked weight) pasta (110 cals), mixed with chopped chicken breast(grilled, no skin about 150 cals for the portion), teaspoon of pesto sauce (about 50 cals) and fromage frais for the sauce (about 50 cals), mushrooms, celery, yellow pepper, onion and any spices I can find. Total dinner calories around about 500. Good enough to eat :-) > OKay it may seem too much but I think I am just losing mostly water > (remember I put on 7lb in one week, probably water). But its better than [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > spices I can find. > Total dinner calories around about 500. Good enough to eat :-) Good job making small but significant changes each week. Just make sure that they are ones that you can live with for the rest of your life. Otherwise this won't be a lasting thing. >> OKay it may seem too much but I think I am just losing mostly water >> (remember I put on 7lb in one week, probably water). But its better than [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > they are ones that you can live with for the rest of your life. Otherwise > this won't be a lasting thing. NO more butter forever? :-) To be honest, I think I can live with it. I love the stuff, but I am not missing it. Its not like I have cravings or its an addiction or anything. Thing is I also love Dairylea light cheese spread, so I can happily have that forever. > >> OKay it may seem too much but I think I am just losing mostly water > >> (remember I put on 7lb in one week, probably water). But its better than [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > Thing is I also love Dairylea light cheese spread, so I can happily have > that forever. Since butter is not good for you anyway replacing it with something that is lower in calories and the RIGHT type of fat is really the right thing to do. Being successful on any weight loss plan means making healthy choices for the rest of your life. If you look at this as a diet, ie short term project, then you will never keep it off. Just because you get to your goal weight does not mean that you go back to your old eating habits. And there is nothing wrong with bread. Just buy the heathiest kind you can find. Whole wheat is better than white for example. Light is better than the full calorie brands. Diet soda vs ful sugar soda. Substitutions like these go a long way to making this a way of life and not a diet. Wonderful, Beck. Congratulations. Elaine >OKay it may seem too much but I think I am just losing mostly water >(remember I put on 7lb in one week, probably water). But its better than [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > > OKay it may seem too much but I think I am just losing mostly water > (remember I put on 7lb in one week, probably water). But its better than [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > spices I can find. > Total dinner calories around about 500. Good enough to eat :-) I'm the same with butter and have had to cut it out completely. I must say that the WW bread is nice, far nicer than ryvita. Dinner sounds lovely hope you enjoy it! >> OKay it may seem too much but I think I am just losing mostly water >> (remember I put on 7lb in one week, probably water). But its better than [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > that the WW bread is nice, far nicer than ryvita. Dinner sounds lovely > hope you enjoy it! Can't have bread. If I have bread I would want butter :-) > >> OKay it may seem too much but I think I am just losing mostly water > >> (remember I put on 7lb in one week, probably water). But its better than [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Can't have bread. If I have bread I would want butter :-) How about bread for a sandwich? You wouldn't need butter then.... >> Can't have bread. If I have bread I would want butter :-) > > How about bread for a sandwich? You wouldn't need butter then.... Have to have butter with bread, so its a no go for me :-) > >> Can't have bread. If I have bread I would want butter :-) > > > > How about bread for a sandwich? You wouldn't need butter then.... > > Have to have butter with bread, so its a no go for me :-) This may be one of those things that gets modified over time. Good luck. >>> Can't have bread. If I have bread I would want butter :-) >> >> How about bread for a sandwich? You wouldn't need butter then.... > >Have to have butter with bread, so its a no go for me :-) I think that's a preconception you're going to have to tackle if you're to keep weight off long-term. You can't avoid bread for the rest of your life simply because you might want to eat butter with it! As you're in UK you can get turkey bacon. Try a turkey bacon and tomato (or ketchup) sandwich sometime, without butter or marg, just as a taste experiment, and I'll bet you'll enjoy it. A lot of times, to lose weight and keep it off we have to challenge our prejudices - prejudices that often start in childhood when we are told that you always eat a certain food with another food, that not having certain foods is tantamount to depriving yourself etc. For example, I was never taught to put butter on vegetables, so it never occurred to me to do so, and putting butter on veggies actually seems a bit weird to me. But other people were taught to do this as a matter of course, and the idea of having vegetables just plain seems alien and weird to them. We were both taught that butter belongs with bread, and that a sandwich without butter is like a car without wheels. What we have to realise is that that is just the way we've been raised, not a truth of nature!  SignatureAnna (in UK) Start Weight: 174 lbs Goal Weight: 146 lbs Current Weight: 165.5 lbs >>>> Can't have bread. If I have bread I would want butter :-) >>> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > keep weight off long-term. You can't avoid bread for the rest of your life > simply because you might want to eat butter with it! Indeed, I've trained myself off butter (& other full-fate spreads) completely. I *adore* it, but I understand & accept I can't have it. Now I find I enjoy the taste & texture of bread much more. My weakness is too much fat in the diet and I have to watch this extremely carefully. The only thing is that the "wetter" sandwich fillings, if you are spread-free on a sandwich, it has to be eaten immediately or the bread goes soggy and that isn't good. > As you're in UK you can get turkey bacon. Try a turkey bacon and tomato > (or ketchup) sandwich sometime, without butter or marg, just as a taste > experiment, and I'll bet you'll enjoy it. Turkey rashers can be delicious. I make a warm salad of mixed leaves, chopped tomato, cucumber & onion, mixed herbs, with turkey rasher slivers and a fat-free dressing of choice. Delicious! Having a freshly baked wholemeal roll with it is lovely. > A lot of times, to lose weight and keep it off we have to challenge our > prejudices - prejudices that often start in childhood when we are told > that you always eat a certain food with another food, that not having > certain foods is tantamount to depriving yourself etc. That is very true. I've stopped putting salt into food during cooking. I had a health reason - other half has high blood pressure - and once I got used to it I taste *food* and not *salt*. Now I find many processed foods too salty. I did the same with sugar in drinks - I've been sugar-free in tea & coffee for years and if I need a little sweetening, such as on my porridge of a morning, I use granulated sweetener - and I find only a tiny amount to be sufficient. Cheers, helen s > For example, I was never taught to put butter on vegetables, so it never > occurred to me to do so, and putting butter on veggies actually seems a [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > without butter is like a car without wheels. What we have to realise is > that that is just the way we've been raised, not a truth of nature! I totally agree with having to change what we were told as kids. I too had to have butter on bread, not any more. Also was ALWAYS told 'clean your plate there is some starving child in Africa that would love to have what you have. ' It was hard to stop cleaning the plate, how I handled it was to put less and less on the plate till I could eat all that was on it and feel full, not stuffed. Also when I was a nurse, we had short lunch periods, or were constantly interrupted about something so it was eat as fast as you can so it is done before you get interrupted. I had to teach myself to eat slower. Frying was never a problem with me, I usually broiled my foods, but DH and his kids fried. They get upset cause I refuse to but they like the grilled foods well and not breading the meats was a change to them also. I had to learn to put fat INTO my diet, since I had cut out most. I just had to learn to use healthy fats, not the unhealthy ones. Another thing is finances, eatting good costs more than not. I recall many meals where me and my 2 boys had mac and cheese with 1/2 pound of hot dogs. It was filling, had protein and carbs and cost less than $1.00 to feed the 3 of us. When you are a single mom struggling to make ends meet it is not easy. I have found that since I started eating healthier wit more veggies and fruits and the healthier cuts of meat, that our food budget has gone up about 100/2 weeks. Now I am feeding 3 teenage boys and me and DH but it DOES cost more to eat healthier. You can't get the 94% fat free popcorn in the dollar store like you can the butter flavored. Low fat is not available in the discount stores like regular is. I still give in once in a while and order a pizza, but it is cheese or mushroom and thin crust, and the dog gets most of the crust, and I eat a large salad before it. So I am learning and still experimenting with what works for me and my family, but it is not as easy as it would be if I was living in the country again, since everywhere you go is some fast food or another. But then I never really liked fast food so I am lucky there. Adele Signature248/242/169 minigoal 238 2/13/04 > > >>>> Can't have bread. If I have bread I would want butter :-) [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > > without butter is like a car without wheels. What we have to realise is > > that that is just the way we've been raised, not a truth of nature! Hi Audrey, >Another thing is >finances, eatting good costs more than not. I recall many meals where me [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >and the healthier cuts of meat, that our food budget has gone up about 100/2 >weeks. OTOH, think of the savings in medical bills you're making - not to mention the research that says a good diet makes kids smarter. Smart kids = better jobs when they're grown up. Just make sure they don't forget their mother! ;) > Now I am feeding 3 teenage boys and me and DH but it DOES cost more >to eat healthier. You can't get the 94% fat free popcorn in the dollar >store like you can the butter flavored. Low fat is not available in the >discount stores like regular is. I know exactly what you mean, but at least in UK I have noticed that low fat is becoming more mainstream. Also, you can get veg and fruit cheap in UK - through markets etc. It just means you have to be organised. However, the most expensive things in the shopping cart are meat, fish, snack foods and confectionary. I wonder if the real problem is that we've grown to expect those things as staples rather than luxuries? When I was growing up, we were very poor and cookies and snack foods were genuine luxuries - forget dollar store popcorn, I didn't have *any* popcorn until I was 12! (Crisps aka chips were the British snack of choice, and I only had them at birthdays and Christmas). I remember when jelly (aka Jello) was a real treat! Meat was a few ounces, stretched to go four ways, and usually the sort of meat we'd get would be liver or other offal, or neck of lamb or ox tail. Fish was a rare treat, and usually as a result of my mum chatting up the fishermen at the harbour ;) (they'd sell us "bait" fish, which mum would then cook for our tea). If most of the calories kids ate were staples (veg, potatoes, bread) they'd be perfectly well fed and a *lot* healthier and we parents would be a lot better off. It's just that we've raised them to believe that they "need" chips, soda, chocolate and cookies: sugar, fat and tons of salt in everything (I'm as guilty in this as anyone). If you *had* to exist on a dollar a day, as millions of people do in the world, you could do it. It's just that a rich diet has become the norm for us. > So I am learning and still >experimenting with what works for me and my family, but it is not as easy as >it would be if I was living in the country again, since everywhere you go is >some fast food or another. But then I never really liked fast food so I am >lucky there. I saw a shocking documentary here in UK. The reporter stood on what was described as a typical residential street, in a typical US town. There were fast food joints as far as the eye could see, literally. He said "Supposing I wanted to buy a pound of apples. Just ordinary apples. Where would I buy them here? Where would I buy *any* healthy food?" The nearest supermarket, a Walmart, was a 35 minute drive away. Here in UK, unless you're in a very rural area, you'd be unlikely to be more than 10 minutes from a supermarket selling a huge range of healthy, basic foods; but fast food restaurants are relative few and far between (in fact, for many of us, the nearest restaurant is *in* the supermarket! ). My nearest fast food restaurant, a McDonald's Drive-Thru is about 20 minutes drive away. My nearest supermarket is a 5 minute walk from my house and my nearest weekly, open market is less than 10 minutes away. So it's a no-brainer if I'm hungry - much quicker to go to the supermarket and I don't need to get the car out. It made a big impression on me, but not as big as some of the people walking by! I was very sympathetic towards them - it's like expecting an alcoholic to live in a brewery! Anyway, despite gross temptation, it sounds like you're doing great, for yourself and your family. SignatureAnna (in UK) Start Weight: 174 lbs Goal Weight: 146 lbs Current Weight: 165.5 lbs I find our food budget is about the same most weeks and less others, DH gets many lower fat items at discount stores, Lee, not envying you cooking for 3 teenagers > I totally agree with having to change what we were told as kids. I too had > to have butter on bread, not any more. Also was ALWAYS told 'clean your [quoted text clipped - 94 lines] > > > Goal Weight: 146 lbs > > > Current Weight: 165.5 lbs This reminds me of a story my WW leader told at a meeting about something that was passed down inher family over the years. Whenever she made ham, she cut off the ends and put it in the pan to bake, this is the way her mom had always done it. She asked her mom one day why it was done that way, she said she did not know and that would have to ask grandma, as that was the way grandma had taught her. So they proceeded to call grandma to find out why you cut the ends off the ham before baking it. Grandma replied "so it would fit in the pan." So you see we are a creature of the ways we are brought up and do things as they have always been done, even though there might be no other reason other than to make it fit in the pan. Debbie >>>> Can't have bread. If I have bread I would want butter :-) >>> [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > without butter is like a car without wheels. What we have to realise is > that that is just the way we've been raised, not a truth of nature! and it may be that this is a trigger issue and must be left alone, Lee, who can eat a stick of butter like a candybar, I don't even need the bread, > >>> Can't have bread. If I have bread I would want butter :-) > >> [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > Goal Weight: 146 lbs > Current Weight: 165.5 lbs I've trained myself off butter on bread and I was raised thinking sandwiches HAD to have butter or they weren't proper sandwiches! And vegetables had to have butter as well. I now eat vegetables without butter, but at special occassions I may put a bit of it them. For a treat now I may have a slice of toast with butter and fresh blackberry jam, but I don't do that often and when I do it, it's in moderation. You have to learn to eat differently and it has to be a life-time change. If you aren't willing to change your eating habits, you will not succeed at losing weight. We've all made changes to the way we eat and it does work! Good luck to you. SignatureBrenda 209/195/155 >>> Can't have bread. If I have bread I would want butter :-) >> >> How about bread for a sandwich? You wouldn't need butter then.... > > Have to have butter with bread, so its a no go for me :-) Hi Beck > OKay it may seem too much but I think I am just losing mostly water > (remember I put on 7lb in one week, probably water). But its better than > nowt. Way better than nowt! > My biggest downfall in life is butter. I love it. But I cannot cut down to > a thin amount, its all or nothing, so I have not had any butter in 3 days. Lakeland Ltd do a product called "Butter Buds" which is like sweetener is to sugar - 3 sachets are 1/2 point - and it gives you that buttery taste on things like potatoes etc., which I'd been missing. > I have replaced it with dairylea light. Laughing Cow Light triangles are bigger...and still only 1/2 point each.....and very creamy :) > I have also stopped having bread, have replaced it with ryvitas. Dry and a > bit like cardboard, but nice with a little bit of dairylea light. I like the Ryvita Breaks one (I think that's what they're called) with sultanas in - they're a bit more pointy, but with a little soft cheese on top, and a bit of honey - they're fab > Am drinking more squash (sugar free) and am now having breakfast - 2 > wheetbix with skimmed milk. I never ate breakfast pre WW - now I can't go without it. > Tonight I am going to have 100g (uncooked weight) pasta (110 cals), mixed > with chopped chicken breast(grilled, no skin about 150 cals for the > portion), teaspoon of pesto sauce (about 50 cals) and fromage frais for the > sauce (about 50 cals), mushrooms, celery, yellow pepper, onion and any > spices I can find. > Total dinner calories around about 500. Good enough to eat :-) Sounds yummy :) Good luck for this week. Signaturekrys UK 157/???/126 Started March 1st 2001 GOAL August 16th 2001 and July 22nd 2004 ...getting more motivated... > Hi Beck > [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > > Good luck for this week. Thanks. With the laughing cow ones, we don't have the triangles, we have the pack, much better value for money. Dinner was lovely, although I had the temperature too high accidentally, so the fromage frais split and curdled. Still nice though. Great job, Beck. And your dinner sounds great, hope you enjoyed it. Nathalie > OKay it may seem too much but I think I am just losing mostly water > (remember I put on 7lb in one week, probably water). But its better than [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > spices I can find. > Total dinner calories around about 500. Good enough to eat :-) Congratulations on your loss, Beck! Continued success... one meal at a time.... cynlyn > OKay it may seem too much but I think I am just losing mostly water > (remember I put on 7lb in one week, probably water). But its better than [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > spices I can find. > Total dinner calories around about 500. Good enough to eat :-) your pasta sounds nice, Lee > OKay it may seem too much but I think I am just losing mostly water > (remember I put on 7lb in one week, probably water). But its better than [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > spices I can find. > Total dinner calories around about 500. Good enough to eat :-) |
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