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Weight Loss Forum / WeightWatchers / January 2005should not have done a mid-week weigh-in....
Hmmm.... Today is Wednesday, so I took a peak. I bounced up to 118.5 kg again, which is the same thing I started at on Friday. This is my 2nd week of Core. I know there are daily fluctuations and my weight could very well be 118.0 again tomorrow like it was yesterday. I also know, intellectually, that losing a little every week will eventually get me to goal and that I really can't draw any conclusions from what... 11 days on the diet. And I did lose 1 kg = 2.2 lb the first week, so it's not like I'm doing *bad*... I just feel like maybe I am not controlling things enough though. I know for sure that if I was putting an absolute cap on calories (counting points instead of doing Core, for example) that I would probably be losing more. But I really wanted to try Core for the exact reason that I feel that psychologically-speaking not having fixed limits might help me stay on the diet. And I have not been tempted to go off the diet at all... I do feel, though, that at my weight that regularly losing at least 1 kg a week should not be so hard! :) doug Hang in there. As you said many things contribute to that <monster> scale each week. Its the long term trend that counts. Not the daily ups and downs. (this from a daily weigher). Keep plugging away and don't give up. You might want to journal your meals including jotting down your portion sizes. Try and limit yourself to one portion of protein and starches. Fill 2/3 of the plate with green veggies. Only eat when hungry and only eat until satisfied. This keeps us from overeating or at least that is the theory behind the "comfort zone". Doing core is a learning process. You learn how much food you can or can not have to keep the scale going. I've been doing it for close to 2 years (April 2003) and I am still learning. Don't expect to get it perfect in 11 days. > Hmmm.... > [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > doug Don't be so hard on yourself - it's a sure recipe for failure. The one thing I've learned in the last year that seems to have finally sunk in is to STAY OFF THE SCALE!!! It's devil-spawn. You don't go to meetings right? Those of us who do have to weigh in once a week, and you really shouldn't do more than that. Aim for the same day of the week and the same time of day, otherwise you'll drive yourself nuts. Small daily fluctuations mean nothing really - but change over a week is almost guaranteed if you're sticking to program. You're doing just fine. Keep up the good work and you'll soon see a payoff. An even better indicator than the scale is how your clothes fit. Lynne Highest Weight - 308 WW Start Weight this time around - 222.4 Weight this week - 217.4 Goal - 150 (Subject to change) "Change doesn't happen while you're sitting around." >Hmmm.... > [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > >doug I am sort of coaching a friend who is very overweight, and she lost 2 the first week, gained them back the second, then took off 6 the third week. She is in for the long haul. Go figure what her body was doing, but the net loss is a nice steady 2 lb a week. And she can eat the way she is eating for the rest of her life, no problem.  SignatureLesanne > Hmmm.... > [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > doug Don't be temptedto weigh yourself more tan once a week. You could wreck your motivation if you have a bad day. But if you only weigh in once a week you can tell yourself 'I've still got x number of days to pull it back'. I don't own scales and have no plans to acquire any. My sister does WW with me and she has several times phoned me mid week to tell me that she has 'already' lost two pounds this week. But by weigh in day its gone! Sometimes you can kid yourself that you've done enough for this week and stop trying. Stick to weighing in once a week and after that concentrate on the plan All te best Hazell > Hmmm.... > [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > doug So why not eat core foods but count the points? Signature~Kristin 285.2/282.2/164 > Hmmm.... > [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > doug > So why not eat core foods but count the points? If I was counting the points, I might as well eat anything, right? Actually, if I was counting the points I might as well count calories! :) doug I fully understand what you're saying - so I'm going to jump in with my useless two cents. When I joined WW two years ago with my daughter we were counting points. I assumed it was OK to eat whatever I wanted as long as I counted the points. I was still eating crap - but that was ok because I was in my points range - right? Right. Up to a point. I *did* lose for a while, but then I started stretching the limits on exercise points. I'd take more than I actually did, count the points and eat them. I stopped losing. I quit going to meetings. I gained. Here I am back at meetings and doing the Core program. Core says you can eat anything from the list 'until you feel satisfied.' Now - many of us have no clue what 'satisfied' means. To us it means stuffed. So - you still need to use common sense where portions are concerned. Chicken breast doesn't mean the breasts from 5 chickens. It means one reasonably sized breast and even then you could leave a bit on your plate for a small snack later. It doesn't mean you should eat a whole bunch of bananas. It means you should eat a reasonably sized banana and wait for a while to see where your hunger level is at. A bag of apples just wouldn't be good - although it probably would clean you out quite well...LOL This is where the points tracking could come in. If you're not sure how much you're eating - count points on your Core foods for just a few days. It won't take long before you see a trend and you'll know where your portions need to be so that you can lose at a reasonable rate. Does that make any sense? Lynne Highest Weight - 308 WW Start Weight this time around Dec 29/04 - 222.4 Weight this week - 218 Goal - 150 (Subject to change) "Change doesn't happen while you're sitting around." Kristin wrote: >> So why not eat core foods but count the points? >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >doug > I fully understand what you're saying - so I'm going to jump in with > my useless two cents. [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > Lynne > Highest Weight - 308 Oh it does. I *can't* do "Core" - "No Count" in the UK. I *have* to weigh what I eat, note it down in my tracker and point it. I also make healthy choices. I require portion control. Basically I *adore* food. I have to point what I eat otherwise I would eat too much - an entire chicken could end up being a snack. I also have to watch out that a 25-mile bike ride doesn't give me a 50-mile bike ride appetitie ;-) For me, the advantage of healthy choices, weighing, tracking & pointing is that it *trains* me to make healthy choices, control appetitie and portion size. I avoid McDonalds like the plague, even though a Big Mac is pointed ;-) Cheers, helen s is much how I do it, Lee > I fully understand what you're saying - so I'm going to jump in with > my useless two cents. [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > > > >doug this is mostly what I do, I do have bread and more potatoes than core allows but for the most part I eat from the core list, Lee > So why not eat core foods but count the points? > [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > > > doug but cut yourself a break, I tried it for 4 weeks, I ended up the same as when I started, for me that was a victory, I also found that I needed the limits of how much rather than what kinds of foods, I naturally eat mostly core foods but the idea of cutting out anything, even things I normally do not eat was just too much, I think you need to give it at least 4 weeks, Lee > Hmmm.... > [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > doug |
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