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Weight Loss Forum / WeightWatchers / May 2005OT: Delurking
I just thought I might introduce myself. I'm not on any WW plan (I am on a limited budget and currently cannot afford the cost of joining, weekly meetings, etc). I am a former Atkins dieter who went off that plan due to a recent heart attack and boredom from the diet itself. I think the heart attack had something to do with all the fat in the Atkins diet so since then I have been looking for ways to cut most of the fat (especially the saturated fat) out of my eating habits. I've also missed eating whole grains, fruit and a few veggies not allowed on the Atkins diet. I've been lurking here for a couple of months collecting the recipes and websites and adjusting my eating habits accordingly. I am also learning a lot about portion control and that is also helping me. I must say with the advise I am learning here (and the websites given here) I am feeling a lot better physically and mentally. I am unsure of my weightloss because my weight is beyond any scale I can find but my clothes do not feel as tight as they once were when I first began. Walking has also become a lot easier as my energy levels are going up and up (albeit slowly) with each passing day. Currently I am reading 2 diet books. I won't mention what books they are so I do not offend anyone but I seem to be hooked on diet books and have quite the collection. LOL!!. I hope it is okay for me to be here because I would love to participate in some of the discussions. I am hoping in the warmer weather when my electric heating bills go down, I will be able to go to a few WW meetings in my city for weighings, support, etc. In the meantime however, I am here. :-) Hi Jaime, sorry to hear about your heart attack but I agree with you - low fat is the way to go! ;) I'm not doing WWs but I am doing an online plan with similar ideas: I eat nothing over 5% fat (any fat, except oily fish about once a week), plenty of fibre, lots of wholegrains, veggies, fruit and only a small amount of sugar (usually in a LF dessert). Last night we had a fat-free beef dinner, with "roast" potatoes, parsnips, boiled carrots and cabbage and even fat-free Yorkshire Puddings (all made by my fair hand). It was a little dry but that wasn't a problem as we also made some luxury gravy to moisten it all. Then I had a "Skinny Cow" icecream bar for dessert, and coffee. It was a fantastic meal and you wouldn't believe the pile of food on my plate, including 6oz of juicy meat - at only 425 calories! So you can eat really, really well and not get fat. I even feed the kids on the same diet, with a few extra things to add the fat they need, such as full-fat yoghurts and a bit of margarine. It's good to start low-fat habits young. Tonight we're having herby fishcakes, and baked fig meringue for dessert. Yum! I haven't got a tremendous amount to lose because I did WWs a couple of years ago and lost about 40lbs, so I'm happy to lose slowly. My main goal now is to develop an eating style I can keep up for life, without having to count calories or points all the time.  SignatureAnna (in UK) Start Weight: 174 lbs Goal Weight: 146 lbs Current Weight: 165 lbs Fig meringue? Recipe? >Hi Jaime, >sorry to hear about your heart attack but I agree with you - low fat is [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] >goal now is to develop an eating style I can keep up for life, without >having to count calories or points all the time. >Hi Jaime, >sorry to hear about your heart attack but I agree with you - low fat is >the way to go! ;) I think so too. >I'm not doing WWs but I am doing an online plan with similar ideas: I >eat nothing over 5% fat (any fat, except oily fish about once a week), >plenty of fibre, lots of wholegrains, veggies, fruit and only a small >amount of sugar (usually in a LF dessert). That sounds pretty much like the way I eat but I do not have any sugar at all. >Last night we had a fat-free beef dinner, with "roast" potatoes, >parsnips, boiled carrots and cabbage and even fat-free Yorkshire [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >including 6oz of juicy meat - at only 425 calories! So you can eat >really, really well and not get fat. Sounds yummy. :-) >I even feed the kids on the same diet, with a few extra things to add >the fat they need, such as full-fat yoghurts and a bit of margarine. >It's good to start low-fat habits young. My boys are 14 and 20. They will eat whatever I cook but they also eat other things I don't miss. >I haven't got a tremendous amount to lose because I did WWs a couple of >years ago and lost about 40lbs, so I'm happy to lose slowly. My main >goal now is to develop an eating style I can keep up for life, without >having to count calories or points all the time. That would be the best eh? :-) I'm actually going to take a week's worth of my daily menus and run them through Fitday one day just to see what I am averaging in calories, fat grams etc. I was never into math but lately I find it fun to crunch numbers. Hi Jaime. Welcome to the group. I'm sorry to hear about your heart attack. Lowering your fat intake is definitely a healthy thing for you to do. Good luck. > I just thought I might introduce myself. I'm not on any WW plan (I am > on a limited budget and currently cannot afford the cost of joining, [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > down, I will be able to go to a few WW meetings in my city for > weighings, support, etc. In the meantime however, I am here. :-) >Hi Jaime. Welcome to the group. I'm sorry to hear about your heart attack. >Lowering your fat intake is definitely a healthy thing for you to do. Good >luck. Thank you Laura. I figured lowering my fat intake significantly would be a benefit for me. Hi Jaime. Just wanted to welcome you aboard. Elaine >I just thought I might introduce myself. I'm not on any WW plan (I am >on a limited budget and currently cannot afford the cost of joining, [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] >weighings, support, etc. In the meantime however, I am here. :-) > >Hi Jaime. Just wanted to welcome you aboard. >Elaine Thank you Elaine. I *love* your name btw. It is very pretty. > I just thought I might introduce myself. I'm not on any WW plan (I am > on a limited budget and currently cannot afford the cost of joining, > weekly meetings, etc). ## I don't care for the meetings myself and they are getting expensive - $10 a meeting. > I am a former Atkins dieter who went off that plan due to a recent > heart attack and boredom from the diet itself. ## I went off it because it stopped working after 5 months - and I was bored with it as well after over 2 1/2 years. I think the heart > attack had something to do with all the fat in the Atkins diet so > since then I have been looking for ways to cut most of the fat > (especially the saturated fat) out of my eating habits. ## WW is pretty low in fats. I've also > missed eating whole grains, fruit and a few veggies not allowed on the > Atkins diet. I've been lurking here for a couple of months collecting > the recipes and websites > and adjusting my eating habits accordingly. I am also learning a lot > about portion control and that is also helping me. ## Yes! There is now weight loss when one eats uncontrollably. I keep measuring cups, spoons and my scale right on the counter by the stove. :o) I also write down every bite I take. > I must say with the advise I am learning here (and the websites given > here) I am feeling a lot better physically and mentally. I am unsure > of my weightloss because my weight is beyond any scale I can find but > my clothes do not feel as tight as they once were when I first began. > Walking has also become a lot easier as my energy levels are going up > and up (albeit slowly) with each passing day. ## How much did you lose on Atkins or LC diets? > Currently I am reading 2 diet books. I won't mention what books they > are so I do not offend anyone but I seem to be hooked on diet books > and have quite the collection. LOL!!. I hope it is okay for me to be > here because I would love to participate in some of the discussions. ## Please do! > I am hoping in the warmer weather when my electric heating bills go > down, I will be able to go to a few WW meetings in my city for > weighings, support, etc. In the meantime however, I am here. :-) SignatureWysong Age 60. Height 5'6" Starting date: 1/8/05 171/ 166 / 140 lb ========================================== >## I don't care for the meetings myself and they are getting expensive - $10 >a meeting. I have not looked into the meeting yet. (I am going to do that this morning) but that does sound very pricey for someone on a limited income. >## Yes! There is now weight loss when one eats uncontrollably. I keep >measuring cups, spoons and my scale right on the counter by the stove. :o) >I also write down every bite I take. I also have mine. A digital scale on the counter next to a shotglass that holds my measuring spoons and in the drawer next to the stove I keep my measuring cups. Up in my bedroom is my food/exercise journal. I put everything that goes into my mouth into that. >## How much did you lose on Atkins or LC diets? 45 pounds in 10 months but I ended up gaining it back when I cheated far too much. Strangely on low fat I am not cheating. If I want fruit I have a medium sized apple. If I want rice I have a portion of brown rice with a little soy sauce and if I want a yam I will bake a small one and eat it with a tablespoon of salsa on top or just eat it plain. >>## How much did you lose on Atkins or LC diets? > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >rice with a little soy sauce and if I want a yam I will bake a small >one and eat it with a tablespoon of salsa on top or just eat it plain. Probably because you're not hungry all the time and your blood sugar's being kept even. LF cooking is definitely a lifestyle and a little different to regular cooking, but once you get the main points it's quite easy to follow. I've now got several recipe books, as well as recipes from the online program I'm doing. However, I don't have "a medium sized apple" - I'll eat how ever much fruit I need to fill me up, except bananas and grapes (because they're fairly high in natural sugar). My main restrictions are on portion sizes of complex carbs and meat, and I hardly ever have egg yolk, margarine or cheese. SignatureAnna (in UK) Start Weight: 174 lbs Goal Weight: 146 lbs Current Weight: 165 lbs >Probably because you're not hungry all the time and your blood sugar's >being kept even. I think so. It is now almost 7 pm and I have had my 3 meals and 2 snacks for the day and I do not even want to *look* at food for the rest of the night. >LF cooking is definitely a lifestyle and a little different to regular >cooking, but once you get the main points it's quite easy to follow. >I've now got several recipe books, as well as recipes from the online >program I'm doing. I have a few LF recipes saved from when I was on Richard Simmons Deal a Meal program. >However, I don't have "a medium sized apple" - I'll eat how ever much >fruit I need to fill me up, except bananas and grapes (because they're >fairly high in natural sugar). My main restrictions are on portion sizes >of complex carbs and meat, and I hardly ever have egg yolk, margarine or >cheese. I do not eat margerine myself and I eat dairy as little as possible (dairy stuffs up my sinuses) but I do eat the yolks when I have 2 scrambled eggs occasionally. > >Probably because you're not hungry all the time and your blood sugar's > >being kept even. [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > (dairy stuffs up my sinuses) but I do eat the yolks when I have 2 > scrambled eggs occasionally. Some of the things that you should try and work on is getting in 2 servings of dairy or the equivalent to 2 cups of low fat or fat free milk, at least 5 servings of fruits and vegtables and 2 teaspoons of healthy oil (sunflower, flaxseed, canola, olive, or safflower). >> >Probably because you're not hungry all the time and your blood sugar's >> >being kept even. [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] >servings of fruits and vegtables and 2 teaspoons of healthy oil (sunflower, >flaxseed, canola, olive, or safflower). How many points do you think that small list adds up to? 4 points for the milk servings, is it 6 points for the oil (oh, teaspoons?? less??) and then the fruits..... Not much to fill a person's empty spot but 1/3 of the daily points. Might explain why I don't always meet those minimums. > >> >Probably because you're not hungry all the time and your blood sugar's > >> >being kept even. [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > 1/3 of the daily points. Might explain why I don't always meet those > minimums. Let's see: 4 for milk + 2 for oil (1pt per teaspoon) + 2 for fruit = 8 points plus it would be 2 more points if you are 50+ old as they say we should have 3 servings of milk per day. It is a lot of points that are tied up in the healthy guidelines, thats for sure. I can't imagine people surviving on 20 points per day on a regular basis. I can easily hit 20 points on a light day but I can also easily swing the other way and hit 24-25 points some days. I do find it easier to hit 20-24 points while on core than I do on flex. I have replaced my mindless junk, bread and pasta with healthier foods and a lot more fruit. I thought about that too. Dairy, is 4 points a day Oils is 2 points a day Fruits are depending on how many you eat, but if you did all fruit and no veggies, that would be 5 points a day. So 11 points a day for the "required" stuff. Debbie >>> >Probably because you're not hungry all the time and your blood sugar's >>> >being kept even. [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > 1/3 of the daily points. Might explain why I don't always meet those > minimums. >I thought about that too. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >veggies, that would be 5 points a day. So 11 points a day for the >"required" stuff. Just out of curiousity...how many points would someone who weighs almost 400 pounds get to have a day? >Just out of curiousity...how many points would someone who weighs >almost 400 pounds get to have a day? 34 Lynne Highest Weight - 308 WW Start Weight this time around Dec 29/04 - 222.4 Weight this week - 218 Goal - 150 (Subject to change) "Change doesn't happen while you're sitting around." but you can easily earn activity points to supplement that, Lee > >Just out of curiousity...how many points would someone who weighs > >almost 400 pounds get to have a day? [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Goal - 150 (Subject to change) > "Change doesn't happen while you're sitting around." I can definitely see why one or two friends who were not far overweight had trouble not feeling famished on occasion. Just musing.... >I thought about that too. > [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] >> 1/3 of the daily points. Might explain why I don't always meet those >> minimums. >Some of the things that you should try and work on is getting in 2 servings >of dairy or the equivalent to 2 cups of low fat or fat free milk, at least 5 >servings of fruits and vegtables and 2 teaspoons of healthy oil (sunflower, >flaxseed, canola, olive, or safflower). I never had the 2 servings of dairy but I guess I could eat lowfat cheese or yogurt for that. Even cottage cheese would do but I dislike milk and cannot even get it down without gagging. I had a tablespoon of olive oil on my salad today. I had a couple of apples today and with the salad (lettuce, cucumber and tomato) that would go towards a few servings of fruits and veggies. I also had a small yam with dinner and some broccoli....about 1 cupfull. >>Some of the things that you should try and work on is getting in 2 servings >>of dairy or the equivalent to 2 cups of low fat or fat free milk, at least 5 [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >would go towards a few servings of fruits and veggies. I also had a >small yam with dinner and some broccoli....about 1 cupfull. Calcium enriched soya or rice "milk" is a good substitute - particularly for women (to prevent osteoporosis, although men can get that too). I also eat very low fat yoghurt daily, and stuff like Quark (low fat cream cheese). I don't have the oils - I'm on a very low fat diet, approved by my doctor. I do take some vitamin supplements to cover the oil-soluble vitamins I need, and I have oily fish at least once a week (about 8 oz). Fruit and veg I eat tons and tons of, although I limit starchy veg. I must be eating about 8 or 9 servings a day! SignatureAnna (in UK) Start Weight: 174 lbs Goal Weight: 146 lbs Current Weight: 165 lbs >Calcium enriched soya or rice "milk" is a good substitute I've tried those. I could not stomach them. >Fruit and veg I eat tons and tons of, although I limit starchy veg. I >must be eating about 8 or 9 servings a day! Wow!! I thought I was doing pretty good just getting in a minimum of 5 or 6 servings a day of fruit and veggies. this is the easiest part of WW to me, I love almost every vegetable out there, Lee > >Calcium enriched soya or rice "milk" is a good substitute > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Wow!! I thought I was doing pretty good just getting in a minimum of > 5 or 6 servings a day of fruit and veggies. > >Some of the things that you should try and work on is getting in 2 servings > >of dairy or the equivalent to 2 cups of low fat or fat free milk, at least 5 [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > would go towards a few servings of fruits and veggies. I also had a > small yam with dinner and some broccoli....about 1 cupfull. I can't stand to drink milk either but I can tolerate it on cereal. So my typical breakfasts these days are a cup of cereal with a cup of berries and a cup of skim milk. If I make oatmeal I use milk instead of water to cook with. My other dairy serving is in the form of nonfat yogurt. I also will put 1/4 c of FF cheese on my salads for another serving. I like cottege cheese but it takes 2 cups to make a dairy serving. I don't like cc THAT much. Other ways of getting your milk: lattes, protein shakes, smoothies (milk+fruit+ice blended). BTW, something is incorrectly set in your Agent settings. Everytime you reply you add another "Re:" to the subject line. I can't seem to find the setting that you changed. Maybe someone else using Agent will come along and point it out to us. I can't even find the place where you might change the "Re:" to something else. >I can't stand to drink milk either but I can tolerate it on cereal. So my >typical breakfasts these days are a cup of cereal with a cup of berries and >a cup of skim milk. I do not mind it with cold cereal but I do not eat cold cereal very often in the winter. > If I make oatmeal I use milk instead of water to cook >with. I do this as well. >My other dairy serving is in the form of nonfat yogurt. I also will >put 1/4 c of FF cheese on my salads for another serving. I like cottege >cheese but it takes 2 cups to make a dairy serving. I don't like cc THAT >much. Two cups? Really? I've been going by the serving sizes on the labels of the containers and that is 3/4 of a cup or 1 cup depending on the brand. > Other ways of getting your milk: lattes, protein shakes, smoothies >(milk+fruit+ice blended). Normally I just make my protein shake with a couple ice cubes, 2 cups water, 2 scoops vanilla protein powder (the 'TO DIET FOR' brand), 1 packet of regular instant oatmeal and some fruit. I *could* add 1 cup of skim milk to it in place of 1 cup of water for tomorrow's shake. The shake is *very* filling. I just had one. :-) >BTW, something is incorrectly set in your Agent settings. Everytime you >reply you add another "Re:" to the subject line. I can't seem to find the >setting that you changed. Maybe someone else using Agent will come along and >point it out to us. I can't even find the place where you might change the >"Re:" to something else. I know all about it. It is annoying the *heck* out of me trying to find out where I can fix it. > >I can't stand to drink milk either but I can tolerate it on cereal. So my > >typical breakfasts these days are a cup of cereal with a cup of berries and [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > of the containers and that is 3/4 of a cup or 1 cup depending on the > brand. Yes I was shocked when I found out that 2 cups were the equivalent to a serving of milk. Way too many points for this lady. I'll eat 1 cup for lunch and call it a half a serving. My half servings add up across the day which counts too. > > Other ways of getting your milk: lattes, protein shakes, smoothies > >(milk+fruit+ice blended). [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > The shake is *very* filling. I just had one. :-) How many calories/points in a scoop of powder? It does sound very filling. For me that sounds like too many points. Once you have lost a significant amount of weight you'll want to start cutting back on the calories in this drink. > >BTW, something is incorrectly set in your Agent settings. Everytime you > >reply you add another "Re:" to the subject line. I can't seem to find the [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > I know all about it. It is annoying the *heck* out of me trying to > find out where I can fix it. I posted in the agent newsgroup about the problem. I've seen it before and it is an easy fix. I just don't use agent very often so I can't remember where the setting is. Some where you specified Re as your prefix. This is the default so you don't need it but I can't figure out where you would add it. I'll keep you posted on this one. Here's what I have under OPTIONS/Post Options/INTRODUCTIONS which is wehre it might be lurking: General | Signatures Introductions Spelling | Followup usenet message: \n\nOn %date%, %from% wrote:\n Email reply to usenet message: On %date%, in %newsgroups% you wrote:\n Forwarded usenet message: On %date%, in %newsgroups% %from% wrote:\n Reply to email: On %date%, you wrote:\n Forwarded email: On %date%, %from% wrote:\n >> >I can't stand to drink milk either but I can tolerate it on cereal. So my >> >typical breakfasts these days are a cup of cereal with a cup of berries [quoted text clipped - 54 lines] >the default so you don't need it but I can't figure out where you would add >it. I'll keep you posted on this one. >Here's what I have under OPTIONS/Post Options/INTRODUCTIONS which is >wehre it might be lurking: [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >Forwarded email: >On %date%, %from% wrote:\n I looked there. Nothing looks like it would cause it. The response I got from the agent news group was: She, or someone, has meddled with her settings in Options | General | Display | Message list pane. The entry at Reply prefixes: should contain simply re - no colon, no quotes, no upper case. I checked my settings and it does say "re" (no quotes). I must have skipped that section when I was looking for it earlier. > Here's what I have under OPTIONS/Post Options/INTRODUCTIONS which is > wehre it might be lurking: [quoted text clipped - 69 lines] > >the default so you don't need it but I can't figure out where you would add > >it. I'll keep you posted on this one. >The response I got from the agent news group was: > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >I checked my settings and it does say "re" (no quotes). I must have skipped >that section when I was looking for it earlier. Thanks Laura!! It worked. :-) > >The response I got from the agent news group was: > > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Thanks Laura!! It worked. :-) Cool. it looks fixed to me. >Yes I was shocked when I found out that 2 cups were the equivalent to a >serving of milk. Way too many points for this lady. I'll eat 1 cup for lunch >and call it a half a serving. My half servings add up across the day which >counts too. I can *easily* eat 2 cups of cottage cheese. I love the stuff but that seems like a lot for one serving. >> > Other ways of getting your milk: lattes, protein shakes, smoothies >> >(milk+fruit+ice blended). [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] >the default so you don't need it but I can't figure out where you would add >it. I'll keep you posted on this one. Opps. I hit the send button too soon. >>How many calories/points in a scoop of powder? It does sound very filling. >>For me that sounds like too many points. Once you have lost a significant >>amount of weight you'll want to start cutting back on the calories in this >>drink. Here is the nutritional info for one serving of the Vanilla flavour........ Serving size: 1 scoop (the scoop is included) Energy: 60 calories Calories from fat: 0 Total fat: 0.5 Saturated fat: 0 Cholesterol: 5 mg Total Carbohydrate: 1 gram Sugars: 0 Dietary Fiber: 0.5 grams Sodium: 100 mg Pottasium: 168 mg Blend 1 scoop in 250 ml of your preferred liquid (I use 2 cups water with 2 scoops powder) Use 1-3 times daily. (I use it once a day but not every day) > Opps. I hit the send button too soon. > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > with 2 scoops powder) > Use 1-3 times daily. (I use it once a day but not every day) That's only 1 point per scoop. Not bad at all. How many grams of protein are in a scoop? I'm looking for a cheaper substitute to the ww smoothies that we can buy at the ww centers. >That's only 1 point per scoop. Not bad at all. How many grams of protein are >in a scoop? 12 grams per scoop. > >That's only 1 point per scoop. Not bad at all. How many grams of protein are > >in a scoop? > > 12 grams per scoop. Thanks. I will look into finding some protein powder at the local GNC store. >Thanks. I will look into finding some protein powder at the local GNC store. That place is really pricey. Walmart (and any good pharmacy) sells protein powders nowadays. I get mine at a local pharmacy. > >Thanks. I will look into finding some protein powder at the local GNC store. > > That place is really pricey. Walmart (and any good pharmacy) sells > protein powders nowadays. I get mine at a local pharmacy. Thanks for the tip. I never would have thought to check walmart. >Thanks for the tip. I never would have thought to check walmart. It is the first place I check for *anything*. :-) I am interested as the WW smoothies have nutracrap in them and I am allergic, any low point suggestions are welcome, Lee > > Opps. I hit the send button too soon. > > [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > in a scoop? I'm looking for a cheaper substitute to the ww smoothies that we > can buy at the ww centers. >>## I don't care for the meetings myself and they are getting expensive - $10 >>a meeting. > >I have not looked into the meeting yet. (I am going to do that this >morning) but that does sound very pricey for someone on a limited >income. Meetings in Canada (in Ontario) are $25 to join, and $15 per week. That can be a significant sum for anyone on a tight budget, but I don't think you can put a price on long term health. I know our health care is paid for in Ontario - but anything any of us do to lessen the burden on the taxpayer is good in my book. Also - that $15 tends to keep ME accountable. If you want something badly enough, you can always find a way to do it. Work with your doctor to arrange monthly weigh-ins. He/she will know where you can do it free. Once a month is better than nothing in the accountability department. Seeing ANY kind of loss is a huge motivator in my book. Lynne Highest Weight - 308 WW Start Weight this time around Dec 29/04 - 222.4 Weight this week - 218 Goal - 150 (Subject to change) "Change doesn't happen while you're sitting around." Are they running Free registration in Canada like they are doing here in the US? That certainly would help save some change. > Meetings in Canada (in Ontario) are $25 to join, and $15 per week. > That can be a significant sum for anyone on a tight budget, but I [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Goal - 150 (Subject to change) > "Change doesn't happen while you're sitting around." >Are they running Free registration in Canada like they are doing here in the >US? That certainly would help save some change. No. Unless they started it in the last couple of weeks. The only break you get on membership here is if you buy a bunch of coupons in advance and then I think you can save a week or better depending on how many you buy. Lynne Highest Weight - 308 WW Start Weight this time around Dec 29/04 - 222.4 Weight this week - 218 Goal - 150 (Subject to change) "Change doesn't happen while you're sitting around." > >Are they running Free registration in Canada like they are doing here in the > >US? That certainly would help save some change. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > advance and then I think you can save a week or better depending on > how many you buy. They started the free registration again at the end of December. I guess they were hoping to sign up folks who made NY resolutions to lose weight. They don't do it all locations or states but they are around here. Free registration is always a good insentive to get people to join. >Are they running Free registration in Canada like they are doing here in the >US? That certainly would help save some change. I have not noticed any. When they do that it is often advertised on tv. and we also have the liberty plan where the meeting price is higher but you do not pay for missed meetings, Lee > Are they running Free registration in Canada like they are doing here in the > US? That certainly would help save some change. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Goal - 150 (Subject to change) > > "Change doesn't happen while you're sitting around." > Seeing ANY kind >of loss is a huge motivator in my book. I have to agree with you there. My weightloss goal is to get under 350 which is what most doctor's scales are. After that my next weightloss goal will be to get under 300 pounds which is what my home scale goes up to. >> Seeing ANY kind >>of loss is a huge motivator in my book. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >weightloss goal will be to get under 300 pounds which is what my home >scale goes up to. Might I suggest an even more immediate goal? Use waist measurement instead, as that often shows even more dramatic losses and a tape measure's relatively cheap. Set yourself a goal of 4" lost as that should take you a couple of weeks. SignatureAnna (in UK) Start Weight: 174 lbs Goal Weight: 146 lbs Current Weight: 165 lbs >Might I suggest an even more immediate goal? Use waist measurement >instead, as that often shows even more dramatic losses and a tape >measure's relatively cheap. > >Set yourself a goal of 4" lost as that should take you a couple of >weeks. I will measure myself tonight after my shower. I bought a notebook yesterday to put everything into (photos, food/exercise journal,measurements, thoughts , etc). The measurements can be my first entry into my new journal. Hi, >>Might I suggest an even more immediate goal? Use waist measurement >>instead, as that often shows even more dramatic losses and a tape [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >journal,measurements, thoughts , etc). The measurements can be my >first entry into my new journal. And of course, the good thing about measurements (as opposed to weights) is that you don't have to worry about wet hair, LOL! ;) SignatureAnna (in UK) Start Weight: 174 lbs Goal Weight: 146 lbs Current Weight: 165 lbs 3.75" inches lost so far! >And of course, the good thing about measurements (as opposed to weights) >is that you don't have to worry about wet hair, LOL! ;) My hair is short and dries fast...even before I make it downstairs to where the scale lives. LOL. this is a very good idea keeping it all together like that, makes it easier for you to keep it real, Lee > >Might I suggest an even more immediate goal? Use waist measurement > >instead, as that often shows even more dramatic losses and a tape [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > journal,measurements, thoughts , etc). The measurements can be my > first entry into my new journal. > >## I don't care for the meetings myself and they are getting expensive - $10 > >a meeting. > > I have not looked into the meeting yet. (I am going to do that this > morning) but that does sound very pricey for someone on a limited > income. $$ And I personally didn't feel they were worth it. The meetings were about an hour long but at least 30 minutes went to weighing people, talking to them etc while those weighed sat there trying to pass time. Then the next 20 to 30 minutes the leader talked and answered questions. It was rather boring and uninspiring, plus so few people were losing weight. That was on the Success 1-2-3 program of 2001. Listening to her and the other leader, I was losing less than 1 lb a month. By the end of 6 months when I quit there were few people left. WW keeps changing the "plan" and many people were complaining it uses *US* for guinea pigs and *we pay them* for the privilege. It's true - they don't pay people to try the plans before they sell them to us, the public - not that we could ascertain. I'm losing now because I'm doing what I should have done long ago - ignoring the advice I got from the WW leaders and dropping points until I lose the weight. :-) I'm also getting most of my points eating fats and proteins whereas they had us eating a lot more carbs. And guess what? It's FREE. I'm using the old points book and point counter. > I also have mine. A digital scale on the counter next to a shotglass > that holds my measuring spoons and in the drawer next to the stove I > keep my measuring cups. Up in my bedroom is my food/exercise journal. > I put everything that goes into my mouth into that. $$ It's truly the ONLY way to keep tract of food consumption. > >## How much did you lose on Atkins or LC diets? > 45 pounds in 10 months but I ended up gaining it back when I cheated > far too much. > Strangely on low fat I am not cheating. If I want fruit I have a > medium sized apple. $$ I missed fruit and variety in general on a strict LC diet. I seldom cheated though as I was losing up to 2 1/2 lbs a week LCing. Sadly, that only lasted 5 months. If I want rice I have a portion of brown rice with > a little soy sauce and if I want a yam I will bake a small one and eat > it with a tablespoon of salsa on top or just eat it plain. SignatureWysong Age 60. Height 5'6" Starting date: 1/8/05 171/ 166 / 140 lb ========================================== >I just thought I might introduce myself. I'm not on any WW plan (I am >on a limited budget and currently cannot afford the cost of joining, [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] >down, I will be able to go to a few WW meetings in my city for >weighings, support, etc. In the meantime however, I am here. :-) Welcome. Sorry to hear about the heart attack. My cousin (1 year older than me) had one too. It was one of the triggers for me to lose weight. You sound to be getting things together, so go for it and "never give up". Ray Signature2002 1.8i eternal red >Welcome. Sorry to hear about the heart attack. My cousin (1 year older >than me) had one too. It was one of the triggers for me to lose >weight. When I was told I had one (after I had an EKG done for a routine physical) I was a little stunned and had to actually think back to when it happened. I never had any pain (except for some pain in my upper left shoulder blade area that I thought was a pinched nerve) but I can think of 2 instances where the attack possibly happened. Both are months apart from the other. >You sound to be getting things together, so go for it and "never give >up". My plan is to go forward and do the best I can do. :-) Thanks for the welcome. > I just thought I might introduce myself. I'm not on any WW plan (I am > on a limited budget and currently cannot afford the cost of joining, > weekly meetings, etc). Not to worry - so long as you are trying to do this the healthy way, we are hear for you! :) > I am a former Atkins dieter who went off that plan due to a recent > heart attack and boredom from the diet itself. I think the heart [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > and adjusting my eating habits accordingly. I am also learning a lot > about portion control and that is also helping me. I have also had to cut my fat levels (though for a less disastrous reason than you - lack of gall bladder in my case!), and it wasn't too easy to start with. These days I can do virtually fat free very easily, so if you want any ideas, just shout! > I must say with the advise I am learning here (and the websites given > here) I am feeling a lot better physically and mentally. I am unsure > of my weightloss because my weight is beyond any scale I can find but > my clothes do not feel as tight as they once were when I first began. > Walking has also become a lot easier as my energy levels are going up > and up (albeit slowly) with each passing day. If you really want to know your weight, ask if your local hospital can help with the scales. Theirs usually have a higher range than domestic ones. Personally, I'd wait and watch the inches for a while instead. if clothes seem to be growing, you are doing the right things! :) > Currently I am reading 2 diet books. I won't mention what books they > are so I do not offend anyone but I seem to be hooked on diet books > and have quite the collection. LOL!!. I hope it is okay for me to be > here because I would love to participate in some of the discussions. Diet books can be amusing, but the most useful information I have had has been from my dietitian at the hospital (they arranged an interview when I got snatched in with acute coliocystitus) and from my WW plan. It's worth asking your health care people if they would stump up for WW as a prevention measure for further more expensive heart attack care. There's quite a bit of WW info available free on line, so as long as you are aiming at the plan, you should do OK for now. > I am hoping in the warmer weather when my electric heating bills go > down, I will be able to go to a few WW meetings in my city for > weighings, support, etc. In the meantime however, I am here. :-) Support here is excellent. Anything you want to know, just ask - somebody will either know what you want or be able to help you find it. Good luck on the downward journey. SignatureKate XXXXXX R.C.T.Q Madame Chef des Trolls Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons http://www.diceyhome.free-online.co.uk Click on Kate's Pages and explore! >Not to worry - so long as you are trying to do this the healthy way, we >are hear for you! :) Thanks. It is appreciated. :-) >I have also had to cut my fat levels (though for a less disastrous >reason than you - lack of gall bladder in my case!), and it wasn't too >easy to start with. These days I can do virtually fat free very easily, >so if you want any ideas, just shout! Well I do have a question. I was thinking about buying a can of PAM but am worried about ingesting the propellent used in the stuff. Since my heart attack I will not take anything stronger then an aspirin and am very cautious (perhaps overly) about what I put into *my* body. Would wiping a teaspoonful of olive oil onto a pan or casserole dish be just as good as using that non-stick spray stuff when a recipe calls for it? >If you really want to know your weight, ask if your local hospital can >help with the scales. Theirs usually have a higher range than domestic >ones. I'm taking a tour of my local YMCA this week. I know they have a scale there..a BIG one but I want to see how high it goes up to. It might be just right. If not I will phone around to the local hospitals. > Personally, I'd wait and watch the inches for a while instead. >if clothes seem to be growing, you are doing the right things! :) I prefer to do this too but right now I simply want a starting number. Mostly out of curiousity. >It's worth asking your health care people if they would stump up for WW >as a prevention measure for further more expensive heart attack care. If that dumbass GP of mine ever gets around to making the appt for the cardiologist for me (It has been 4 months now and still no appt made) then I will ask the cardiologist whenever I get to see one. >There's quite a bit of WW info available free on line Yes I have noticed that. :-) >Support here is excellent. Anything you want to know, just ask - >somebody will either know what you want or be able to help you find it. > >Good luck on the downward journey. Thanks. I appreciate the support and the help. > >Not to worry - so long as you are trying to do this the healthy way, we > >are hear for you! :) [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > be just as good as using that non-stick spray stuff when a recipe > calls for it? That would be okay too. Just remember that you want LOW fat not NO fat diet. Your body does need a certain amount of fat to keep functioning properly. Remember, eliminating a food group is not healthy. > >If you really want to know your weight, ask if your local hospital can > >help with the scales. Theirs usually have a higher range than domestic [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > Thanks. I appreciate the support and the help. Hi, >> Well I do have a question. I was thinking about buying a can of PAM >> but am worried about ingesting the propellent used in the stuff. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >Your body does need a certain amount of fat to keep functioning properly. >Remember, eliminating a food group is not healthy. You can make your own oil sprays by mixing a tablespoon of oil with a pint of water and putting it in a clean (preferably new) plant spray bottle. It is true you need a little fat, but in practice it's almost impossible to cut it out altogether anyway (bread for instance, has quite a bit of fat in it). The sources of "good" fats include nuts, oily fish and advocardo, but during the weight-loss phase you should go easy on these foodstuffs as well. As I said, I can't eat nuts at all and I have oily fish about once a week. It is a good idea to take some multivitamins, however, just in case and to cover all bases. After all, your body's got to do some hard work! SignatureAnna (in UK) Start Weight: 174 lbs Goal Weight: 146 lbs Current Weight: 165 lbs >You can make your own oil sprays by mixing a tablespoon of oil with a >pint of water and putting it in a clean (preferably new) plant spray >bottle. I was considering this. Have you tried it and if so, does it work well without the parts getting gummed up over time? >It is true you need a little fat, but in practice it's almost impossible >to cut it out altogether anyway (bread for instance, has quite a bit of >fat in it). The sources of "good" fats include nuts, oily fish and >advocardo, but during the weight-loss phase you should go easy on these >foodstuffs as well. As I said, I can't eat nuts at all and I have oily >fish about once a week. Nuts give me digestive problems but I eat a lot of fish. I love fish and have it more then once a week. >It is a good idea to take some multivitamins, however, just in case and >to cover all bases. After all, your body's got to do some hard work! I take a multivitamin daily along with a calcium/magnesium supplement. >That would be okay too. Just remember that you want LOW fat not NO fat diet. >Your body does need a certain amount of fat to keep functioning properly. >Remember, eliminating a food group is not healthy. Yes I realize this. :-) >>Not to worry - so long as you are trying to do this the healthy way, we >>are hear for you! :) [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > aspirin and am very cautious (perhaps overly) about what I put into > *my* body. Mu olive oil spray is propelled by air: it contains olive oil, water, and emulsifier (lecithin), a small amount of alcohol to help preserve the oil, and vitamin E as an antioxidant. One spray is one calorie. > Would wiping a teaspoonful of olive oil onto a pan or casserole dish > be just as good as using that non-stick spray stuff when a recipe > calls for it? I think so: I do that all the time when the spray goes walkabout. I'm not the tidiest of cooks... ;) >>If you really want to know your weight, ask if your local hospital can >>help with the scales. Theirs usually have a higher range than domestic [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > It might be just right. If not I will phone around to the local > hospitals. The YMCA sounds like a good bet. >>Personally, I'd wait and watch the inches for a while instead. >>if clothes seem to be growing, you are doing the right things! :) > > I prefer to do this too but right now I simply want a starting number. > Mostly out of curiousity. Yes, I understand that. I started at 213 lbs, and was horrified. It certainly helped to keep me going at the low times. >>It's worth asking your health care people if they would stump up for WW >>as a prevention measure for further more expensive heart attack care. > > If that dumbass GP of mine ever gets around to making the appt for the > cardiologist for me (It has been 4 months now and still no appt made) > then I will ask the cardiologist whenever I get to see one. 4 months is way too long. Start pestering him: ring twice a week until you get a result. Pant breathlessly at him as if you were about to expire dramatically down the phone at him! >>There's quite a bit of WW info available free on line > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Thanks. I appreciate the support and the help. This one place where even if you whisper, you will be heard! :) SignatureKate XXXXXX R.C.T.Q Madame Chef des Trolls Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons http://www.diceyhome.free-online.co.uk Click on Kate's Pages and explore! >The YMCA sounds like a good bet. My son told me they renovated the whole place. I'm going downtown to check it out tomorrow. >4 months is way too long. Start pestering him: ring twice a week until >you get a result. Pant breathlessly at him as if you were about to >expire dramatically down the phone at him! I've been asking. It does not seem to do a darn thing. Fortunately in Ontario I have the choice of firing him and getting a new doctor (which I am seriously considering) >I've been asking. It does not seem to do a darn thing. >Fortunately in Ontario I have the choice of firing him and getting a >new doctor (which I am seriously considering) Good luck finding a doctor that will take new patients. Lynne Highest Weight - 308 WW Start Weight this time around Dec 29/04 - 222.4 Weight this week - 218 Goal - 150 (Subject to change) "Change doesn't happen while you're sitting around." >>I've been asking. It does not seem to do a darn thing. >>Fortunately in Ontario I have the choice of firing him and getting a >>new doctor (which I am seriously considering) > > Good luck finding a doctor that will take new patients. I echo that! In that respect, I'm spoilt rotten: good doc who listens to his patients and isn't afraid to acknowledge he doesn't know something. He's also very good at referring folk for further investigations and treatment. SignatureKate XXXXXX R.C.T.Q Madame Chef des Trolls Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons http://www.diceyhome.free-online.co.uk Click on Kate's Pages and explore! >I echo that! In that respect, I'm spoilt rotten: good doc who listens >to his patients and isn't afraid to acknowledge he doesn't know >something. He's also very good at referring folk for further >investigations and treatment. Hold onto that guy. :-) >>I echo that! In that respect, I'm spoilt rotten: good doc who listens >>to his patients and isn't afraid to acknowledge he doesn't know >>something. He's also very good at referring folk for further >>investigations and treatment. > > Hold onto that guy. :-) Once, after I'd had to call the ambulance service to treat DH for a severe hypo (he's Type 1 diabetic), this doc called in on his way past just to make sure DH and the rest of us were OK. I DO know how lucky we are - and this one comes 'free' on the NHS! :) SignatureKate XXXXXX R.C.T.Q Madame Chef des Trolls Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons http://www.diceyhome.free-online.co.uk Click on Kate's Pages and explore! >Good luck finding a doctor that will take new patients. I know eh. :-/ I only choose this guy because my own doctor retired (she was dying at the time from some rare illness) and I needed to see someone regarding my severe depression. Then after seeing him and going for that EKG I found out I had the heart attack. Anyway my sister is seeing her doctor on Friday and I am going with her. My sister says her doctor only takes new patients if they are related to one of her current patients (ie. "family"). I told my sister....well, we are family. My sis is going to ask her doctor if she will take me as a new patient and briefly tell her doc about my heart attack. I am *that* desperate. If that doesn't work I just might go to the ER and tell them I have chest pain even when I don't just to get Dr. Taylor to move his arse. You can buy a spray mister in your kitchen section of the stores. They are made specifically for this purpose. Then you add your own oil to it and use as needed like you would the aerosol spray oils. Debbie >>Not to worry - so long as you are trying to do this the healthy way, we >>are hear for you! :) [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] > > Thanks. I appreciate the support and the help. >You can buy a spray mister in your kitchen section of the stores. They are >made specifically for this purpose. Then you add your own oil to it and use >as needed like you would the aerosol spray oils. Yes!! Yes!! I remember seeing a segment on those on some morning news show. I am going to head to the mall when it opens this morning and look for one. Thanks. I had forgotten those exist. You mentioned Wal-Mart in another post, why don't you try there. I am sure they would carry it. Debbie >>You can buy a spray mister in your kitchen section of the stores. They >>are [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > I am going to head to the mall when it opens this morning and look for > one. Thanks. I had forgotten those exist. >You mentioned Wal-Mart in another post, why don't you try there. I am sure >they would carry it. I've looked there already. They do not carry them. what is the mix of water to oil? Lee > You can buy a spray mister in your kitchen section of the stores. They are > made specifically for this purpose. Then you add your own oil to it and use [quoted text clipped - 53 lines] > > > > Thanks. I appreciate the support and the help. Here is a link to the oil mister product I was talking about and of course where you can purchase it too. http://www.shopping.com/xGS-oil_mister~NS-1~linkin_id-3062404 >>Not to worry - so long as you are trying to do this the healthy way, we >>are hear for you! :) [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] > > Thanks. I appreciate the support and the help. I'm with someone else - doesn't the "valve" get all sticky and clogged. Cleaning the narrow feed tube??? I've seen them in kitchen shops but the above have always been stopping me. >Here is a link to the oil mister product I was talking about and of course >where you can purchase it too. [quoted text clipped - 52 lines] >> >> Thanks. I appreciate the support and the help. >I prefer to do this too but right now I simply want a starting number. >Mostly out of curiousity. Get pictures too. When you have lost a few pounds and the difference is noticeable the starting pictures are an inspiration. Also keep some 'big' clothes, if nothing else they are good for a party piece:) Ray Signature2002 1.8i eternal red >Get pictures too. I have a couple of photos that my youngest son took of me with a disposable camera we had lying around. I just got them back the other day and cannot believe how *HUGE* I look. >When you have lost a few pounds and the difference >is noticeable the starting pictures are an inspiration. An inspiration to keep going I assume. :-) >Also keep some >'big' clothes, if nothing else they are good for a party piece:) I will be sure to keep my largest pair of pants when they get so big they are falling off of me. I had to have my passport for an employment thing the other day. I had not realized how much it showed that I had lost in my face. You can really see the difference in that photo. Debbie > >I prefer to do this too but right now I simply want a starting number. >>Mostly out of curiousity. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Ray > I am hoping in the warmer weather when my electric heating bills go > down, I will be able to go to a few WW meetings in my city for > weighings, support, etc. In the meantime however, I am here. :-) Welcome to the group, Jaime! You might try to go to a few meetings at first and then attempt it on your own. I will say that I had a hard time keeping up with the program when I stopped going to meetings (just running in to weigh-in). However, there are plenty of people who are able to do it. Sorry to hear about your heart attack. It is very scary. I am just 18 years old but my grandma who appeared to be INCREDIBLY healthy (skinny, active, healthy diet, etc) collapsed and passed away from a heart attack a year ago. The warning signs were easily attributed to other things and there was no other indication. It has been very very tough on our family (which is very young- I have at least 10 cousins under the age of 5 on that side of the family, I am the oldest girl at 18 and my brother is the oldest of everyone at 20) and a wake-up call. While hers wasn't caused by diet or weight, I know now that I have heart disease on both sides of my family and I need to do EVERYTHING in my power to be healthy to try to prevent it from happening to me. Fortunately, when my dad's father had a heart attack, he made it through. I think you are great for knowing that you need to make a change and taking the necessary steps to get there. Best of luck with WW. It is an amazing program and I really think you will find it enjoyable and effective! -Kara. >Welcome to the group, Jaime! Thank you Kara. >You might try to go to a few meetings at first >and then attempt it on your own. I would like to do that once my finances let me. I feel so out of the loop and like I am missing *something*. >Sorry to hear about your heart attack. It is very scary. At the time I had it I never knew it was a heart attack. I thought I had a pinched nerve in my back. Seriously. >I am just 18 years >old but my grandma who appeared to be INCREDIBLY healthy (skinny, active, >healthy diet, etc) collapsed and passed away from a heart attack a year ago. Sorry to hear that. My own mother died of coronary heart disease a couple of years ago. >The warning signs were easily attributed to other things and there was no >other indication. From what I have been reading on women and heart attacks there generally are no indications AND women are more likely to be sent home from emergency rooms because the doctors do not associate a lot of what symptoms the women *might* be having with heart attacks. > It has been very very tough on our family I'm sure it has. :-( > While hers wasn't caused by diet or weight, I >know now that I have heart disease on both sides of my family and I need to >do EVERYTHING in my power to be healthy to try to prevent it from happening >to me. You are a very bright girl for starting so young. :-) > Fortunately, when my dad's father had a heart attack, he made it >through. :-) >I think you are great for knowing that you need to make a change and taking >the necessary steps to get there. I think you are as well. >Best of luck with WW. It is an amazing program and I really think you will >find it enjoyable and effective! I'm reading everything I can find on the internet about it. Hi Jaime and "officially" welcome to the group and out of lurk-mode. I go to meetings because they provide me the support and motivation I need. I figure the monetary cost is small in relation to being fat again. Others are quite happy to stick with online support and go it alone. How you do it is up to you. I'm sure you've seen this before, but here's the welcome notice to make the welcome complete :) Welcome to this great newsgroup where you'll receive lots of support, advice, and encouragement. Once a week on Sundays, I post a list of links that newcomers to asdww might find useful. You may want to look for that later in the week, or do a backwards search for last Sunday's post. In the meantime, here's our FAQ: http://www.didian.com/asdww/ our welcome notice: http://www.geocities.com/welcomenotice/index.html Frequently seen acronyms on this NG: NSV = Non-Scale Victory WOE = Way of Eating WOL = Way of Life (Living) OP = on Points or On Program DH = Dear or Darling Husband DS/DD/DGD/etc = Dear or Darling Son, Daughter, Granddaughter, etc WI = Weigh-in Amberle3's Challenges: Generic Exercise Challenge: http://www.angelfire.com/me4/travelgirl/ge.htm November 29-February 27 It's Never Too Late Weight Loss Challenge: http://www.angelfire.com/me4/travelgirl/intl.htm December 6-February 27 Weight Loss Challenge Summary: http://www.angelfire.com/me4/travelgirl/summary.htm Other acronyms: http://www.wwlissa.com/dwlz100+/100+acronyms.htm Here's a short synopsis of the USA program by Joyce - How many points you can eat is only based on your current weight, as you lose weight those points allowed will decrease (logic is that your body will need less to operate). At 183 pounds and based on the new US flexpoints system, you will have a set point target of 24. In addition to this you are allowed 35 flexpoints to be used throughout the week ... as well as any activity points you earn on a particular day. When your weight drops to 175, your target drops to 22 points ... weight reaches 150, target once again drop to 20 points. 3 servings of dairy of recommended per day, 5 servings of fruit and veggies, minimum of 6 glasses of water. To calculate food and activity points, I love this computer desktop calculator ... http://www.zythra.com/downloads/points.exe The basic plan is easy. Eat at least your minimum daily number of points. Points do not carry over from day to day. You are allotted 35 weekly flexpoints to be used at your discretion ... can divide them up and use daily (would be an additional 5 points per day) or save them and use them for a special occassion during the week. Activity points are earned based when exercising, but can ONLY be used on the day they are earned. If you can afford $15/month, the online ww program might be a great thing for you to look into. There is lots of information available, as well as the food point database and journaling system. Joyce WW starting weight: 228.8 - 2/5/02 current weight: 133.3 Lifetime: 4/4/03 Please note that if you live in onther countries (UK, Australia, NZ, Europe), the Points plans are different. The UK and Australia/NZ calculate points based on saturated fat and total kilojoules. Most of Europe calculates based on total fat and total kilojoules. The desktop calculator above can handle all of these programs. Disclaimer: As an unmoderated Usenet newsgroup, asdww is unusual in that most of the people who participate are respectful, considerate folks who freely share their experience with and knowledge of WW, weight loss, and maintenance. Yet occasionally, spammers, trolls, and flamers show up to post advertising, false information, insults, and the like. Nearly all of the time, people like this are just trying to yank someone's chain. Most of the regulars on this newsgroup offer their experience as a suggestion to try if you're stuck, but are quick to advise that each person has to find what works for him/herself. If someone posts something that doesn't sound right to you, ask the newsgroup, ask your WW leader, or ask your health professional. Much success on your weight loss journey! WW works! SignatureJulie. 93.5/73.6/74 (WW)/72 (Personal) kg 205.7/161.9/162.8 (WW)/158 (Personal) lb Here's our FAQ: http://www.didian.com/asdww/ and welcome notice: http://www.geocities.com/welcomenotice/index.html >I just thought I might introduce myself. I'm not on any WW plan (I am > on a limited budget and currently cannot afford the cost of joining, [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > down, I will be able to go to a few WW meetings in my city for > weighings, support, etc. In the meantime however, I am here. :-) >Hi Jaime and "officially" welcome to the group and out of lurk-mode. Thanks. :-) > I go >to meetings because they provide me the support and motivation I need. I am going to phone them and ask if I can go to one meeting without being pressured to join up. From what I read on the website it seems like they want a person to join right away. I prefer to go, check things out and then decide if I wish to continue with it later on when I am able to sit down and think about it on my own time. > I >figure the monetary cost is small in relation to being fat again. Others >are quite happy to stick with online support and go it alone. How you do it >is up to you. I know my local meeting will allow you to sit in on the meeting and then make a decision to join. They will not let you stay for the "Getting Started" session though, as that is where the materials are handed out and taught to the new members. Debbie >>Hi Jaime and "officially" welcome to the group and out of lurk-mode. > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >>it >>is up to you. >I know my local meeting will allow you to sit in on the meeting and then >make a decision to join. They will not let you stay for the "Getting >Started" session though, as that is where the materials are handed out and >taught to the new members. I am going to email them and ask if it is possible for me to do that. this is interesting as that is actually the commercial that is running in central Illinois right now, "try it out first", Lee > >Hi Jaime and "officially" welcome to the group and out of lurk-mode. > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > >are quite happy to stick with online support and go it alone. How you do it > >is up to you. Welcome and good luck! SignatureNathalie from Belgium 134.1/89.7/minigoal 88.7/ Goal 68 Kg 295.6/197.8/minigoal 195.6/Goal 150 pounds > I just thought I might introduce myself. I'm not on any WW plan (I am > on a limited budget and currently cannot afford the cost of joining, [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > down, I will be able to go to a few WW meetings in my city for > weighings, support, etc. In the meantime however, I am here. :-) I just wanted to take a minute to welcome you to ASDWW, Jaime! I'm sorry for your heart attack but glad you are changing your eating habits for the better now. Wish you lots of luck! :) Signature~Kristin 285.2/277.8/164 -7.4 so far! >I just thought I might introduce myself. I'm not on any WW plan (I am > on a limited budget and currently cannot afford the cost of joining, [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > down, I will be able to go to a few WW meetings in my city for > weighings, support, etc. In the meantime however, I am here. :-) everyone is welcome here, Lee, hoping to read more from you as I catch up, > I just thought I might introduce myself. I'm not on any WW plan (I am > on a limited budget and currently cannot afford the cost of joining, [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > down, I will be able to go to a few WW meetings in my city for > weighings, support, etc. In the meantime however, I am here. :-) |
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