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toni - 22 Feb 2005 15:15 GMT
Can you please anyone of the group explain to me how is Core diet
works???? I use to be a member of Weight Watchers back few years & all i
know is the Flex program. Thanks.
Toni.
Laura - 22 Feb 2005 20:04 GMT
> Can you please anyone of the group explain to me how is Core diet
> works???? I use to be a member of Weight Watchers back few years & all i
> know is the Flex program. Thanks.
> Toni.

Welcome to the group.

And here's an explanation of Core/No-count that I posted a few weeks ago:

It is a great plan. You DO however need to make sure that you are eating at
your normal Flex plan target number of points. This can be difficult for
some and you WILL stop losing.

Here is the summary of the plan: http://ahwww.home.comcast.net/summary.htm
Here is the detail list of foods:
http://ahwww.home.comcast.net/wwcoreplan.htm

Basic rules:
1. Eat as much of the core foods as you need to feel "satisfied" (not full).
2. If you want to eat foods that are not on the core foods list use you 35
weekly points allowance (WPA).
Note: use these points on healthy foods and not junk.
3. Activity points are used to supplement the 35 WPA for Non-core food items
only. They must be used on the day they are earned.
Note: most people find that they will increase the amount of core foods
because they are hungrier due to exercising.
4. 2 teaspoons of heathy oil daily is required.
JulieB - 22 Feb 2005 20:13 GMT
Here's our welcome notice which has brief explanations of how both core and
flex work, and some good links.  Welcome to the group too - stick around and
let us know how you go!

Welcome to this great newsgroup where you'll receive lots of support,
advice, and encouragement. Once a week on Sundays, I post a list of links
that newcomers to asdww might find useful. You may want to look for that
later in the week, or do a backwards search for last Sunday's post.

In the meantime, here's our FAQ:
http://www.didian.com/asdww/
our welcome notice:
http://www.geocities.com/welcomenotice/index.html

Frequently seen acronyms on this NG:
NSV = Non-Scale Victory
WOE = Way of Eating
WOL = Way of Life (Living)
OP = on Points or On Program
DH = Dear or Darling Husband
DS/DD/DGD/etc = Dear or Darling Son, Daughter, Granddaughter, etc
WI = Weigh-in

Amberle3's Challenges:

Generic Exercise Challenge: http://www.angelfire.com/me4/travelgirl/ge.htm
   November 29-February 27

It's Never Too Late Weight Loss Challenge:
http://www.angelfire.com/me4/travelgirl/intl.htm
   December 6-February 27

Weight Loss Challenge Summary:
http://www.angelfire.com/me4/travelgirl/summary.htm

Other acronyms:
http://www.wwlissa.com/dwlz100+/100+acronyms.htm

Here's a short synopsis of the USA Flexpoints program by Joyce -

How many points you can eat is only based on your current weight, as you
lose weight those points allowed will decrease (logic is that your body will
need less to operate).   At 183 pounds and based on the new US flexpoints
system, you will have a set point target of 24.  In addition to this you are
allowed 35 flexpoints to be used throughout the week ... as well as any
activity points you earn on a particular day.  When your weight drops to
175, your target drops to 22 points ... weight reaches 150, target once
again drop to 20 points.  3 servings of dairy of recommended per day, 5
servings of fruit and veggies, minimum of 6 glasses of water.

To calculate food and activity points, I love this computer desktop
calculator ...
http://www.zythra.com/downloads/points.exe

The basic plan is easy.  Eat at least your minimum daily number of points.
Points do not carry over from day to day.  You are allotted 35 weekly
flexpoints to be used at your discretion ... can divide them up and use
daily (would be an additional 5 points per day) or save them and use them
for a special occassion during the week.  Activity points are earned based
when exercising, but can ONLY be used on the day they are earned.

Joyce
WW starting weight: 228.8 - 2/5/02
current weight:  133.3
Lifetime: 4/4/03

And here's an explanation of Core/No-count by Laura -

It is a great plan. You DO however need to make sure that you are eating at
your normal Flex plan target number of points. This can be difficult for
some and you WILL stop losing.

Here is the summary of the plan: http://ahwww.home.comcast.net/summary.htm
Here is the detail list of foods:
http://ahwww.home.comcast.net/wwcoreplan.htm

Basic rules:
1. Eat as much of the core foods as you need to feel "satisfied" (not full).
2. If you want to eat foods that are not on the core foods list use you 35
weekly points allowance (WPA).
Note: use these points on healthy foods and not junk.
3. Activity points are used to supplement the 35 WPA for Non-core food items
only. They must be used on the day they are earned.
Note: most people find that they will increase the amount of core foods
because they are hungrier due to exercising.
4. 2 teaspoons of heathy oil daily is required.

~Laura

Please note that if you live in onther countries (UK, Australia, NZ,
Europe), the Points plans are different.  The UK and Australia/NZ calculate
points based on saturated fat and total kilojoules.  Most of Europe
calculates based on total fat and total kilojoules.  The desktop calculator
above can handle all of these programs.

Disclaimer: As an unmoderated Usenet newsgroup, asdww is unusual in that
most of the people who participate are respectful, considerate folks who
freely share their experience with and knowledge of WW, weight loss, and
maintenance. Yet occasionally, spammers, trolls, and flamers show up to post
advertising, false information, insults, and the like. Nearly all of the
time, people like this are just trying to yank someone's chain. Most of the
regulars on this newsgroup offer their experience as a suggestion to try if
you're stuck, but are quick to advise that each person has to find what
works for him/herself. If someone posts something that doesn't sound right
to you, ask the newsgroup, ask your WW leader, or ask your health
professional.

Much success on your weight loss journey! WW works!

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Julie.
93.5/73.6/74 (WW)/72 (Personal) kg
205.7/161.9/162.8 (WW)/158 (Personal) lb

Here's our FAQ: http://www.didian.com/asdww/ and welcome notice:
http://www.geocities.com/welcomenotice/index.html

> Can you please anyone of the group explain to me how is Core diet
> works???? I use to be a member of Weight Watchers back few years & all i
> know is the Flex program. Thanks.
> Toni.
toni - 23 Feb 2005 06:44 GMT
Thank you both Laura & Julie for your reply's & your encouragement. It
seem's to me that Core it's hard to follow. So i think i will go with
the flex points. Now the problem is when???? My favor word is Monday or
tomorrow. I have to make up my mind. Thank you both for your support.
Toni.
Fred - 23 Feb 2005 17:08 GMT
I think that folks who have weight problems can have difficulty with
the approach of "eating till satisfied" particularly when first
beginning this new lifestyle.  While we can probably all relate to
that STUFFED WAY BEYOND COMFORT from too much at Thanksgiving (pick
your favorite food holiday), the SATISFIED is more difficult to
recognize.  So Flex works but, of course, you need to track and
journal your foods which some folks find a turnoff.

I started just before Flex but with a similar points-bent.  It
definitely worked.  And I learned an incredible amount about portion
control.  Which slowly tends to learning what "satisfied" means.

Good luck

>Thank you both Laura & Julie for your reply's & your encouragement. It
>seem's to me that Core it's hard to follow. So i think i will go with
>the flex points. Now the problem is when???? My favor word is Monday or
>tomorrow. I have to make up my mind. Thank you both for your support.
>Toni.
surfsup - 23 Feb 2005 23:26 GMT
Is core very similar if not the same as slimming world, which I have tried
in the past but seemed to hit a block that I couldnt get beyond. I switched
to weight watchers ( points version ) and the weight shot off me. I do feel
hungry at times and core does sound attractive but at first glance it does
seem to be along the lines of the slimming world plan.

> Can you please anyone of the group explain to me how is Core diet
> works???? I use to be a member of Weight Watchers back few years & all i
> know is the Flex program. Thanks.
> Toni.
toni - 24 Feb 2005 15:24 GMT
Thank you all for your responses about the Core plan. I decide to go
with the points better if i ever get there. My last diet was Atkins & i
lost 14 pounds but i was stupid once again & start eating the bad carbs
& i gained all  14 pounds back. I am 225 pounds now & i feel so bad but
for some reason it's hard to make up my mind.  I start in the morning &
afternoon with the plan & then the evening i am off it plus i have the
flu now so i will wait for another week. ( that is my favor word lol )

Laura - 24 Feb 2005 16:34 GMT
From the BTDT party, take one day at a time. If you keep at it at some point
you will make it through the day OP. For newbies I think that starting with
the flex plan actually is easier. The program is restrictive enough to set
good eating guidelines. Core does work but it does take more food prep and a
lot of planning.

Start writing down everything you eat. This will at least make you aware of
what you are eating. This might just point out some of your pitfalls. Start
drinking water to help fill you up too. Get rid of the foods in the house
that are tempting you. I'm a firm believer of out of sight-out of mind as a
way of making sure that I don't eat the junk food. I won't go out and buy
junk food if I am having a craving fit. I make do with what I have in the
house. So much easier to stay OP when the junk is not in the house.

> Thank you all for your responses about the Core plan. I decide to go
> with the points better if i ever get there. My last diet was Atkins & i
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> afternoon with the plan & then the evening i am off it plus i have the
> flu now so i will wait for another week. ( that is my favor word lol )
Fred - 25 Feb 2005 02:32 GMT
There really are NO BAD carbs but there are better ones.  Complex ones
like brown rice and real oatmeal and WHOLE wheat bread.  But you do
have to make up your mind that it really is time.

Also, if you do "join" and then blow it, you have only blown it at
that moment.  Just get back on the program at the next opportunity.
Losing some is better than losing nothing.

Good luck and feel better


>Thank you all for your responses about the Core plan. I decide to go
>with the points better if i ever get there. My last diet was Atkins & i
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>afternoon with the plan & then the evening i am off it plus i have the
>flu now so i will wait for another week. ( that is my favor word lol )
cynlyn - 27 Feb 2005 03:23 GMT
I have loved the Core after many attempts at WW (I think I'm the only one on
the Core at my meetings!)........ this is the plan for me.  I hope you enjoy
as well, Toni! : )
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Core Since 1-19-05

> Can you please anyone of the group explain to me how is Core diet
> works???? I use to be a member of Weight Watchers back few years & all i
> know is the Flex program. Thanks.
> Toni.
 
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