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Prairie Roots - 16 Apr 2005 14:02 GMT
After weeks, Months, of eating what and when I want to eat, regardless
of the effect on the scale, I seem to have gotten my groove back, and
I'm now eating for weight loss. I can't explain what happened that I
ceased to care about the correlation between eating large quantities
of certain foods and weight gain. It's as if I needed to prove to
myself how quickly I could regain all my weight if I returned to my
pre-WW way of eating. Despite my return to program several weeks ago,
I knew at the time that I would give it less than my best effort,
because deep down, I just didn't care. Eating what I wanted was simply
more important. Work has been very stressful, and I've used that as my
excuse to overeat and underexercise.

As a result, none of the summer clothes I bought last year when I
reached my WW goal of 145 fit me this year. All of my size S clothes
are staring me in the face, unwearable, and even most of the size Ms
have become snug. Last year I was wearing size 6 & 8 clothes; this
year I'm in 10s & 12s. Worst of all, none of my bicycling clothes fit.

Last Friday, something changed. As I ate my way through X number of
pastries after breakfast, and french fries with lunch, and a pint of
ice cream and a bag of chips for dinner, I felt myself getting angrier
and angrier that I had become so willing to throw away all that hard
work of 1-1/2 yrs to lose 87 lbs. By the time I went to bed Friday
night, I knew that I had to make a choice. I could continue my
out-of-control eating. That would mean I'd weigh more than 200 lbs by
next Christmas (if not sooner). I'd be wearing size 20+ clothes. And
I'd have to sell my bicycles because I knew I wouldn't/couldn't ride
them if I was obese. OR I could eat sanely, lose weight and fit into
the clothes I already have, and keep my bikes.

In that moment of decision, something clicked and I made the
connection between my eating and my weight. I cannot eat whatever I
want whenever I want and expect to be normal weight. For some reason,
the present reality of my bike clothes not fitting and the potential
reality of giving up my bikes helped me make that connection.

Thankfully, when I woke up Saturday morning, my mind was still clear
and my resolve to return to a healthy way of eating and a normal
weight had not abated. Sadly, after a week of frenzied eating, the
scale showed 176.8. On Sunday, after one day of sane and planned
eating, the scale had dropped to 170.6, which I think is a truer
reflection of my weight gain since Christmas. Since then, I've been
weighing and measuring my food and avoiding both sugary and high fat
foods. In addition, I've managed to go to the gym twice and plan to go
again later this morning. Now that the morning temps are averaging
well above freezing, I'm planning next week to resume bike commuting.
The schedules for club bicycle rides are beginning to fill too and so
I hope to do at least one club ride next week.

This morning the scale read 168 after a couple of days at 167. Oh
well. Today, what's more important to me than the number on the scale
is that my head is on straight. For the first time ever, I know in my
bones that nothing tastes as good as thin feels. I hope I can still
say that tomorrow and next week and next year.
--
Linda P
168.2/168/10% goal: 151
mini-goal: 165

prairierootsmnSNIPTHIS@yahooANDTHIS.com
Laura - 16 Apr 2005 14:40 GMT
Great job getting back on track. The right mental attitude goes a long way
in this journey. You certainly made the right decsion in coming back.

> After weeks, Months, of eating what and when I want to eat, regardless
> of the effect on the scale, I seem to have gotten my groove back, and
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> prairierootsmnSNIPTHIS@yahooANDTHIS.com
Prairie Roots - 17 Apr 2005 14:24 GMT
Thanks Laura. Weekends have been my most challenging time period. I
was able to stay on program all of last weekend and yesterday. Last
night I went out for coffee with a friend and was sorely tempted
throughout the evening to purchase a desert square or cookie or
biscotti or Something. I went through all the reasons I could have
something--I have a whole week's worth of flex points, I could share
it with my friend, I Wanted it--and each and every time I was able to
remember that I'm trying to fit into my bike clothes and eating a
treat, while a momentary pleasure, would ultimately lead to my feeling
worse for a lot longer.

I wasn't hungry. I have fruit at home to satisfy my sweet tooth; in
fact, I ate a couple of strawberries as soon as I walked in the door.
I wasn't even thinking about food when I got to the place because I'd
enjoyed a thoroughly satisfying and interesting meal shortly before
going. No, it was just the sight of all those goodies in the case that
made me think I should have something.

Did I feel deprived? Yeah, a little. But I was able to tell myself
that I'll feel even more deprived if I can't fit into my summer
shorts. And that seemed to be enough to make me go back to my seat and
enjoy the company of my friend.
--
Linda P
232/168/145
mini-goal: 165

>Great job getting back on track. The right mental attitude goes a long way
>in this journey. You certainly made the right decsion in coming back.
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Laura - 17 Apr 2005 14:53 GMT
My challenge lately has been my neighbors house. She always has lots of junk
food. I frequently hit her frittos or other chips while I am there. While it
might only be a handfull it still adds up plus I don't like that I can't
seem to resist them. I suspect that I am feeling deprived and this is my way
of getting them without having to buy the whole bag myself. Gotta break this
habit for sure.

> Thanks Laura. Weekends have been my most challenging time period. I
> was able to stay on program all of last weekend and yesterday. Last
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Prairie Roots - 17 Apr 2005 15:15 GMT
As important as it is to learn good eating habits in general for our
main meals, non-meal nibbling is my downfall. Reaching for a handful
of whatever... for me, that's the deal breaker when it comes to weight
loss.

>My challenge lately has been my neighbors house. She always has lots of junk
>food. I frequently hit her frittos or other chips while I am there. While it
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Laura - 17 Apr 2005 15:33 GMT
I agree. I think I am doing it in response to some subtle stresses that I am
dealing with these days. I have been working hard to clean out the house in
anticpation of our moving up near mom in June. Well those plans got
cancelled this week as DD is really not ready to make the move. DH wants to
stay now too (it was his idea). One of the reasons I quit my job in January
was to clean out the house and now we are not moving. arrgghh. I told them
we would proceed with cleaning out the house of all of the accumulated junk
since I am not working. I just have to figure out what to do for employment
now. Its hard to find a job when you are gone July & August every year.
Noone wants to hire you under those terms nor are many jobs that are willing
to have someone work remotely as a new hire.

> As important as it is to learn good eating habits in general for our
> main meals, non-meal nibbling is my downfall. Reaching for a handful
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Fred - 17 Apr 2005 20:45 GMT
Amen, sister! (G)

Meals are fine.  And if I do go out and splurge it is quite
infrequent.  Snacking is incessant and available ..... Nervous habit,
just habit, boredom, stress.....

>As important as it is to learn good eating habits in general for our
>main meals, non-meal nibbling is my downfall. Reaching for a handful
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Prairie Roots - 17 Apr 2005 23:39 GMT
Habit, yes. And others: Boredom, stress, something to occupy the
hands... I need a new habit. Do you nibble when you're biking, hiking,
x-country skiing?

I don't nibble when I'm at the computer. But TV? Reading? hoo boy! I
should take up knitting to keep my fingers busy while I'm sitting.

The only reason snacking is not incessant right now is that it is
unavailable. The only finger food in the house are cherry tomatoes,
strawberries, oranges, and apples. I don't even have any popcorn. No
yogurt, no skinny cows, no meringues. I just don't trust myself to
have that stuff sitting around. I stopped at the grocery store today
and looked for Panda licorice. Even with my renewed determination, I
was hunched down, scavenging the bottom shelf. Fortunately, the store
was out of licorice, and I had enough sense to leave before anything
else attracted my attention.

>Amen, sister! (G)
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Brenda Hammond - 17 Apr 2005 23:57 GMT
> Habit, yes. And others: Boredom, stress, something to occupy the
> hands... I need a new habit. Do you nibble when you're biking, hiking,
> x-country skiing?
>
> I don't nibble when I'm at the computer. But TV? Reading? hoo boy! I
> should take up knitting to keep my fingers busy while I'm sitting.

Sitting at the computer and watching TV make me want to snack.  I can read
without feeling the urge to eat though.  Knitting is a great idea - I've
taken
it up in the past - not to avoid eating - and enjoyed it.  Right now I have
DS
and a cat who would love to get all tangled up in my wool so won't be
doing any knitting real soon.

> The only reason snacking is not incessant right now is that it is
> unavailable. The only finger food in the house are cherry tomatoes,
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> was out of licorice, and I had enough sense to leave before anything
> else attracted my attention.

Good for you having no snack foods in the house.  Wish I could get away
with that.  If I had none it would force DH to the grocery store then there
would be worse things here than there are now!

Brenda

>>Amen, sister! (G)
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Prairie Roots - 18 Apr 2005 00:37 GMT
>Good for you having no snack foods in the house.  Wish I could get away
>with that.  If I had none it would force DH to the grocery store then there
>would be worse things here than there are now!

Living alone does have its advantages. There's no one else's dietary
habits to accommodate.
Brenda Hammond - 18 Apr 2005 00:44 GMT
You got it!  I have a DH who like snacking just as much as me, probably
more.
A grandma who loves to buy all the "on sale" stuff at the grocery - most of
it high fat/sugar items and a DS who would be loving it if I just fed him
milk and
candy!

>>Good for you having no snack foods in the house.  Wish I could get away
>>with that.  If I had none it would force DH to the grocery store then
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> Living alone does have its advantages. There's no one else's dietary
> habits to accommodate.
Fred - 18 Apr 2005 06:04 GMT
>Habit, yes. And others: Boredom, stress, something to occupy the
>hands... I need a new habit. Do you nibble when you're biking, hiking,
>x-country skiing?

Interesting question which has delved into by me before.  NO!  Never
really did either.  I would take "gorp" (good ol' raisins and peanuts
and M&M's) on hikes/backpacks and have SOME but not really much.  But
at home I would consume the peanuts and M&M's.  Biking, there's not
time or convenience.  But no - too HAPPILY busy is what I'd guess.

>I don't nibble when I'm at the computer. But TV? Reading? hoo boy! I
>should take up knitting to keep my fingers busy while I'm sitting.

Oh, the computer is bad news.  And, yes, to the others, too.

>The only reason snacking is not incessant right now is that it is
>unavailable. The only finger food in the house are cherry tomatoes,
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>was out of licorice, and I had enough sense to leave before anything
>else attracted my attention.

Good taste in licorce!  I have those "not good" things - too much and
too many varieties.  Just now it was a few (more) pieces of chocolate
covered crystalized ginger.  

>>Amen, sister! (G)
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Prairie Roots - 19 Apr 2005 02:46 GMT
>>Habit, yes. And others: Boredom, stress, something to occupy the
>>hands... I need a new habit. Do you nibble when you're biking, hiking,
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>at home I would consume the peanuts and M&M's.  Biking, there's not
>time or convenience.  But no - too HAPPILY busy is what I'd guess.

I don't nibble when I'm active either. Rarely take break food with me,
and so far, have managed not to indulge when others stop. My bike
rides aren't long enough to require additional food. Tonight's bike
ride was 14 miles, just long enough for an after-work workout.
Halfway, the group stopped at Dairy Queen. I stayed with my water.

>>I don't nibble when I'm at the computer. But TV? Reading? hoo boy! I
>>should take up knitting to keep my fingers busy while I'm sitting.
>
>Oh, the computer is bad news.  And, yes, to the others, too.

You knit? And eat at the same time? Remind me not to ask you to make
me a sweater! <G> I hear that knitting is the In thing now among young
men.

>>The only reason snacking is not incessant right now is that it is
>>unavailable. The only finger food in the house are cherry tomatoes,
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>too many varieties.  Just now it was a few (more) pieces of chocolate
>covered crystalized ginger.

A friend turned me on to Panda licorice. I used to think I didn't like
licorice till I tried that brand. I Love crystallized ginger. Didn't
know there was such a thing as the chocolate covered variety. I will
not go out of my way to look for it.

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Fred - 19 Apr 2005 05:28 GMT
>>>Habit, yes. And others: Boredom, stress, something to occupy the
>>>hands... I need a new habit. Do you nibble when you're biking, hiking,
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>ride was 14 miles, just long enough for an after-work workout.
>Halfway, the group stopped at Dairy Queen. I stayed with my water.

Well, on yesterday's ride, I ate two peanut butter and jelly
sandwiches.  It was lunch and late lunch (G)  I spread the stuff quite
thin and it was WW bread.  Friends have questioned me on some trips
over the last year.  When there is a planned lunch spot, I have
generally taken my own food - that way I am in control.  One friend
has asked if I can ever "eat normally again?"  I guess I consider my
sandwiches normal.  Altho, it may be tacky pulling it out in a
restaurant but if the others are eating I figure I'm not taxing the
joint with my own food.

>>>I don't nibble when I'm at the computer. But TV? Reading? hoo boy! I
>>>should take up knitting to keep my fingers busy while I'm sitting.
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>>Oh, the computer is bad news.  And, yes, to the others, too.

No, I don't knit although when I was a kid my mom and an aunt who
lived with us did knit and attempted to teach me.   No I eat when
tv-ing and reading.

>You knit? And eat at the same time? Remind me not to ask you to make
>me a sweater! <G> I hear that knitting is the In thing now among young
>men.

>>>The only reason snacking is not incessant right now is that it is
>>>unavailable. The only finger food in the house are cherry tomatoes,
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>>>was out of licorice, and I had enough sense to leave before anything
>>>else attracted my attention.

>>Good taste in licorce!  I have those "not good" things - too much and
>>too many varieties.  Just now it was a few (more) pieces of chocolate
>>covered crystalized ginger.

>A friend turned me on to Panda licorice. I used to think I didn't like
>licorice till I tried that brand. I Love crystallized ginger. Didn't
>know there was such a thing as the chocolate covered variety. I will
>not go out of my way to look for it.

Do NOT find chocolate covered.... It is addictive.  I get it at the
food co-op.

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Brenda Hammond - 17 Apr 2005 15:27 GMT
Hmmm...deprivation.  Perhaps that's my problem.  Meals have been kind
of boring lately and the snacks, such as crackers, cookies, chocolate
have been more exciting.  I'm going to try to make our meals more
interesting
and see what happens.

Brenda

> My challenge lately has been my neighbors house. She always has lots of
> junk food. I frequently hit her frittos or other chips while I am there.
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Prairie Roots - 17 Apr 2005 16:27 GMT
Adding variety to the family meal menu is definitely worth trying.
It'll be worth it if you're able to satisfy the "exciting" factor.
"Diet" food can be boring, or at least we think it is. For me, I knew
I couldn't go back to my simple evening meal plan of grilled meat,
baked white or sweet potato, and steamed vegetable. After Months of
that as a steady "diet," I thought I'd scream if I had that one more
time. Now my evening meals are much more varied. I subscribe to a
weekly non-weight loss menu planner, and I haven't had the same meal
for dinner in two months. I'm eating real food, not "diet" food. My
taste buds are being introduced to new foods. Grocery shopping isn't
the total chore it used to be. I'm experimenting with new-to-me
kitchen gadgets. Pasta's back in my diet. I vary my breakfast between
oatmeal, maple syrup, and milk, and eggbeaters, english muffin, and
milk, depending on the points value of the evening meal. Lunch is
salad. I make sure I eat my two fruits, take my multivitamins, include
a vegetable with dinner, use extra-lean meats in the recipes, and
substitute spray oils as appropriate. Touching and smelling and
experiencing the foods while I'm preparing my meal seems to make a
difference.

>Hmmm...deprivation.  Perhaps that's my problem.  Meals have been kind
>of boring lately and the snacks, such as crackers, cookies, chocolate
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Brenda Hammond - 17 Apr 2005 16:48 GMT
What is the menu planner you subscribe to?  I find that once I get
home from work, which is usually around 5:30 pm that I don't have
alot of time to prepare dinner, so it's usually something that I can
quickly throw together.  Breakfast has never been a favorite meal
of mine.  I usually have something like oatmeal with milk and brown
sugar, egg white omelette on dry toast with 1/2 oz. cheddar, or
cereal.  Lunches are usually soup, salad, or a veggie sandwich - dinners
can be almost anything at the moment.  Like I said, whatever is
quick and easy has been getting my vote lately - and it's usually not
an OP meal.  The other thing I haven't been doing is drinking water.
I know it makes a difference though.  I hate "diet" food too, so the
typical "diet" stuff would not cut it with me - that's why I joined WW -
so I could have everything in moderation - but lately moderation has
meant EVERYTHING!

Brenda

> Adding variety to the family meal menu is definitely worth trying.
> It'll be worth it if you're able to satisfy the "exciting" factor.
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Prairie Roots - 17 Apr 2005 17:10 GMT
>What is the menu planner you subscribe to?  
www.savingdinner.com The site belongs to an associate of Flylady.net.
What I like about the menus (main meals only, no breakfasts or
lunches, unless you have leftovers) is that they don't require much
preparation time. I'm usually eating within 1/2 hour of getting home
from work. One menu a week is slow-cooked. Hardly anything is
microwaved. She offers a regular menu available for 6 or 2 people,
which includes vegetarian and kosher options for each meal, a
vegetarian menu for 6 or 2 people, a low-carb menu for 6 or 2 people,
and recently added a frugal menu for 6 people only. I get the regular
menu. The weekly menus also come with a shopping list, and nutritional
info is provided for the main item in each meal, making it easy to
calculate points. You have to point side items yourself.

I subscribed about 6 weeks ago. I don't have one of these meals every
night--I still go back to my grilled meat, baked potato, steamed
vegetable a couple times a week, especially if I've gone out for
lunch. But when I prepare one of the menu meals, eating alone somehow
feels like a sit-down family meal. As an single empty-nester, I've
been deprived of that experience for too many years.

>I find that once I get
>home from work, which is usually around 5:30 pm that I don't have
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Brenda Hammond - 17 Apr 2005 19:22 GMT
I'm going to try her sample menus for a few weeks and see what
I think, then perhaps I'll subscribe.  Thanks for the suggestions.

Brenda

>>What is the menu planner you subscribe to?
> www.savingdinner.com The site belongs to an associate of Flylady.net.
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Laura - 17 Apr 2005 19:13 GMT
I can see how the lack of menus can mess things up. I deal with that most
days here. DH does the dinner cooking. I have tried to suggest meals but he
usually vetos the idea. Fortunately we have steaks and chicken breasts in
the freezer all the time. He has no problem running to the store at 5pm to
grab some fresh veggies to steam for me. There are some nights that he just
has not desire to cook nor is there anything in the house that suits him.
That's when we end up calling out. He has learned over time which places I
can order safely from so as to not go overboard.

We used to plan the menus and shopping list out over the weekend. That
helped keep us on track but that was back when we were both working. Now
that we don't work full time we can run to the store whenever we are out of
stuff. But since you are working you might try doing a menu and shopping
list on Sundays so that the week is covered.

> What is the menu planner you subscribe to?  I find that once I get
> home from work, which is usually around 5:30 pm that I don't have
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adele57 - 18 Apr 2005 13:21 GMT
> I can see how the lack of menus can mess things up. I deal with that
> most days here. DH does the dinner cooking. I have tried to suggest
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> of stuff. But since you are working you might try doing a menu and
> shopping list on Sundays so that the week is covered.
Each month I make a monthly menu for dinners and don't repeat any meals.
 Being a stay at home mom does help though.  Then weekly I check to see
what I need to get for those meals.  I print out the calendar with the
meals on it so if DH wants to cook, he knows what we are having and
doesn't have to think of what to make.  He says it makes cooking easier.
 I usually eat the same breakfast, then point the dinner and have lunch
and snacks to fill in the rest of the points.  Sometimes though I just
don't make the needed points and sometimes I go over, especially when I
am nibbling on peanuts.
Adele
Laura - 18 Apr 2005 13:39 GMT
>> I can see how the lack of menus can mess things up. I deal with that most
>> days here. DH does the dinner cooking. I have tried to suggest meals but
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> make the needed points and sometimes I go over, especially when I am
> nibbling on peanuts.

Your plan works because DH is willing to follow the menu you set up. The few
times that I have taken food out of the freezer to thaw he has turned up his
nose at it. Then he complains that I don't do the menus anymore. Can't win
with him. It must be a guy-thing with him to control the dinner menu.
Brenda Hammond - 16 Apr 2005 15:27 GMT
Congratulations on getting back on track before getting too out of
control.  I need to take notes on what you've said here as I am in
a similar situation.  Getting back on track is causing me difficulty at
the moment.

Brenda

> After weeks, Months, of eating what and when I want to eat, regardless
> of the effect on the scale, I seem to have gotten my groove back, and
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Prairie Roots - 17 Apr 2005 14:36 GMT
Thanks Brenda. Everyone at their pace in their own time. What
motivates you doesn't motivate me, and vice versa. Maybe you just
haven't found the thing that is more important to you than eating.
Being healthy Should be more important--we all know that--but
sometimes that's not reason enough.

As for me, I'm taking one day at a time, rehearsing my reasons for
wanting to get back to my WW goal weight. Today I'm on Day 9.
--
Linda P
232/168/145
mini-goal: 165

>Congratulations on getting back on track before getting too out of
>control.  I need to take notes on what you've said here as I am in
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Brenda Hammond - 17 Apr 2005 16:25 GMT
My weight has been bouncing around like a yoyo lately.  For the
life of me I cannot figure out why losing 37 lbs two years ago was
so easy, yet now I am unable to stay OP for any length of time.

Laura mentioned deprivation and I'm wondering if that might be
part of my problem.  I'm going to try to make meals more
interesting and see what happens.

Snacks in the evening are also something I have to overcome.  It
seems that once dinner is finished I crave something sweet, then
once I have even one, it eventually leads to more.

Brenda

> Thanks Brenda. Everyone at their pace in their own time. What
> motivates you doesn't motivate me, and vice versa. Maybe you just
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Laura - 17 Apr 2005 16:39 GMT
Deprivation or boredom could be playing a part in things for you but it also
sounds like you are dealing with cravings. Try limiting your sugar and
processed foods to see if that helps. I know that when I was doing the Core
program the cravings disappeared. Now that I am no longer doing the core
program and am allowing the junk back in slowly the cravings seem to have
returned. So has the stress but that's another story.

> My weight has been bouncing around like a yoyo lately.  For the
> life of me I cannot figure out why losing 37 lbs two years ago was
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Brenda Hammond - 17 Apr 2005 19:13 GMT
Thanks for the suggestion.  I will limit the sugar and processed foods.
If it worked for you perhaps it will work for me as well.

Brenda

> Deprivation or boredom could be playing a part in things for you but it
> also sounds like you are dealing with cravings. Try limiting your sugar
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Prairie Roots - 17 Apr 2005 17:20 GMT
Deprivation and boredom may indeed have a role in your current
struggles. In her response, Laura also suggests the craving itself
might be a problem. That's worth considering as well. Sugar wants more
sugar. Avoiding processed foods for a while might help you get over
the craving, though it might take a bit of white-knuckling too.

Am I remembering correctly? Didn't you say once that you would scrub
the kitchen floor as one tactic that worked to keep you out of the
kitchen? I'd never recommend to anyone that they go to such extremes,
but if that's worked for you in the past, maybe it's worth trying now.

Don't forget you've been through a lot of emotional upheaval in the
period of time you mention. When you're ready, you'll be able to find
the motivation and incentive you need to stick with weight loss
eating. Maybe what you're going through now is getting ready to get
ready. <g>
--
Linda P
232/168/145
mini-goal: 165

>My weight has been bouncing around like a yoyo lately.  For the
>life of me I cannot figure out why losing 37 lbs two years ago was
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>>>>
>>>> prairierootsmnSNIPTHIS@yahooANDTHIS.com
Brenda Hammond - 17 Apr 2005 19:21 GMT
> Deprivation and boredom may indeed have a role in your current
> struggles. In her response, Laura also suggests the craving itself
> might be a problem. That's worth considering as well. Sugar wants more
> sugar. Avoiding processed foods for a while might help you get over
> the craving, though it might take a bit of white-knuckling too.

I'm going to try it.  I'm sure there will be many white-knuckle moments!

> Am I remembering correctly? Didn't you say once that you would scrub
> the kitchen floor as one tactic that worked to keep you out of the
> kitchen? I'd never recommend to anyone that they go to such extremes,
> but if that's worked for you in the past, maybe it's worth trying now.

Nope, wasn't me!  I wash it when it needs doing, but if I were doing it
to keep me from eating I would be down there constantly!  Don't like
it that much.

> Don't forget you've been through a lot of emotional upheaval in the
> period of time you mention. When you're ready, you'll be able to find
> the motivation and incentive you need to stick with weight loss
> eating. Maybe what you're going through now is getting ready to get
> ready. <g>

I have and there's more now too.  My grandmother that lives with me
had surgery two months ago for a grapefruit sized tumor on her bowel
that was cancer.  Now my other grandmother has just found out she
has a spot of cancer in her stomach and has to go for more testing then
surgery or some kind of treatment.  She won't know what will be done
until the doctor gets all the test results he wants, so we've got a while to
wait on that.  I'm trying to think about "me", but I'm the type who is
constantly worrying about others and all the things that are going on in my
life - probably my major problem!

I hope I'm getting ready.  I'm tired of being tired, having no clothes that
fit properly and feeling basically yucky!  Oh, the other thing is that when
I lost 37 lbs. two years ago all my joint and muscle pain went away.  It's
back now.

Brenda

> --
> Linda P
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>>>>>
>>>>> prairierootsmnSNIPTHIS@yahooANDTHIS.com
Prairie Roots - 17 Apr 2005 19:47 GMT
>I hope I'm getting ready.  I'm tired of being tired, having no clothes that
>fit properly and feeling basically yucky!  Oh, the other thing is that when
>I lost 37 lbs. two years ago all my joint and muscle pain went away.  It's
>back now.

I wish the desire for good health was enough to trigger my willingness
to lose weight. Unfortunately, that argument falls on deaf ears in my
case. Nope, what's making the difference right now is something that
appealed to my vanity, which I didn't know I possessed until I
realized I can't wear last summer's clothes nor my bicyling shorts and
shirts. Even if only in my own mind, I looked cute last year, an
attribute I've never associated with myself, and I liked the feeling.

"Feeling basically yucky": Have you considered at all that you might
be depressed, and perhaps anti-depression might help? With all the
non-stop emotional pain you've experienced over the last 24 months,
it's not out of the question that your brain chemistry is out of whack
and needs a bit of help getting right.

Just a thought. Whatever is going on, Brenda, I hope you feel better
soon. I'm sorry to hear about your other grandmother. You're so close
to all of your family; I can't imagine how heavy the load of sadness
and worry that you carry.
--
Linda P
Brenda Hammond - 18 Apr 2005 00:10 GMT
>>I hope I'm getting ready.  I'm tired of being tired, having no clothes
>>that
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> shirts. Even if only in my own mind, I looked cute last year, an
> attribute I've never associated with myself, and I liked the feeling.

I saw your photo on your website last year and though you looked
great!

> "Feeling basically yucky": Have you considered at all that you might
> be depressed, and perhaps anti-depression might help? With all the
> non-stop emotional pain you've experienced over the last 24 months,
> it's not out of the question that your brain chemistry is out of whack
> and needs a bit of help getting right.

You know, I've thought about that and think it might have something
to do with it.  One other thing that is happening is DH's grandmother
is clinging to me since my MIL passed away last August.  She has no
immediate family now as her husband died 7 years ago and my MIL
was her only child.

She phones our house every night and if we know it's her and don't
answer, she keeps phoning non-stop until we answer.  Then all she
does is complains about everyone else in the family and how they don't
phone her or stop by, etc., etc.  Reason they don't is just that - she
complains non-stop!  She relies on DH's aunt (sister of DH's father) and
myself to take her shopping, to get her hair done, doctors appointments,
everything.  She's tried to recruit me to do her housework, make her
bed, vacuum her carpets, etc.  I have enough to do so refuse to
volunteer (actually DH warned me against doing too much for her as
he doesn't want her to be too dependent on us all as we've got our own
lives to live).  I've tried to talk her into some home care services, but
she will have nothing to do with it.  It's not as if it costs her anything
as it's covered by her medical plan, but she just won't have it.

As you say, I have had alot going on over the last two years, so I
expect that it's all gotten to me and is making me somewhat depressed.
I do sometimes feel very out of sorts, not wanting to do anything, just
want to sit in a nice quiet room all by myself.  The more I think about
what you've said, the more I think that maybe that is my problem.  I'm
going to make an appointment with my doctor and see what he has
to say about it all.  Thanks for the help....

> Just a thought. Whatever is going on, Brenda, I hope you feel better
> soon. I'm sorry to hear about your other grandmother. You're so close
> to all of your family; I can't imagine how heavy the load of sadness
> and worry that you carry.

I am close to my family and it will be difficult for us all if they find
it's spread
to other parts of her body, but we can just hope and pray that it hasn't
and that they can remove the cancer that is there and she will continue to
live a long healthy and happy life.

> --
> Linda P
Prairie Roots - 18 Apr 2005 00:26 GMT
>I do sometimes feel very out of sorts, not wanting to do anything, just
>want to sit in a nice quiet room all by myself.  

The last two items are big red flags. They're high on the list of
indicators for clinical depression. Add the emotional beating you've
taken, and I really do urge you to follow-up with your dr for an
evaluation. Medication may not be the answer, but it never hurts to
find out if there's something else dragging you down besides regular
life. Maybe if what you're feeling has a name, it'll be easier to tell
other people (and yourself!!) that you need some self-time.
Brenda Hammond - 18 Apr 2005 00:45 GMT
I'm going to take your advice and see my dr.  I've been trying to
sort out my feelings by myself my whole life - it's time I asked for
some help.  Perhaps he'll have a quick and easy answer for me!
Thanks again...

Brenda

>>I do sometimes feel very out of sorts, not wanting to do anything, just
>>want to sit in a nice quiet room all by myself.
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> life. Maybe if what you're feeling has a name, it'll be easier to tell
> other people (and yourself!!) that you need some self-time.
Fred - 18 Apr 2005 06:09 GMT
Best wishes for both grandmothers' health.

>> Deprivation and boredom may indeed have a role in your current
>> struggles. In her response, Laura also suggests the craving itself
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> prairierootsmnSNIPTHIS@yahooANDTHIS.com
Brenda Hammond - 18 Apr 2005 14:38 GMT
Thanks Fred.

> Best wishes for both grandmothers' health.
>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> prairierootsmnSNIPTHIS@yahooANDTHIS.com
Fred - 18 Apr 2005 03:11 GMT
>Thanks Brenda. Everyone at their pace in their own time. What
>motivates you doesn't motivate me, and vice versa. Maybe you just
>haven't found the thing that is more important to you than eating.
>Being healthy Should be more important--we all know that--but
>sometimes that's not reason enough.

That is so true.  A number of years ago I had lost considerable
weight.  I recall being on a ski trip with a friend (the friend I
chased on a 45 mile bike ride today) and commented to the effect: "how
can someone (_ME_) who loves doing this backcountry skiing allow
myself to get so out of shape weightwise (I was able to drag it around
but it certainly was not easy or healthy)?"   Clearly, something
beyond easy definition is involved.  Although, this time I know a lot
more about portion control and that has helped.  Maybe being older
(not necessarily wiser) and being less able to drag that excess weight
around has also helped.

>As for me, I'm taking one day at a time, rehearsing my reasons for
>wanting to get back to my WW goal weight. Today I'm on Day 9.
Prairie Roots - 18 Apr 2005 04:00 GMT
We humans are funny creatures. The good reasons for doing something
aren't always the right reasons, or the reasons that motivate. Our
emotions have much more to do with our choices than our intelligence.

>>Thanks Brenda. Everyone at their pace in their own time. What
>>motivates you doesn't motivate me, and vice versa. Maybe you just
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>>As for me, I'm taking one day at a time, rehearsing my reasons for
>>wanting to get back to my WW goal weight. Today I'm on Day 9.
Fred - 16 Apr 2005 16:27 GMT
I just want to say that you have full support and sympathy.  I, too,
had those "I want to eat that!"  I cannot even attribute it to
anything stressful at work although maybe I would like to be retired
(G)  They just occur and cannot be ignored without risking clothes not
fitting and exercise becoming harder.

I wish we could bottle the positive resolve and the reasons the
resolve finally grabs hold.  But since we can't, we just have to
mentally bite the bullet and buckle down.  Find other outlets for
stress (easy to say).  Winter can be a very dull time with less
exercise, less sunlight, especially in the northern latitudes.  

Just keep a grip on that new resolve.  Look at those bicycles and
those form fitting shorts and get your incentive pumped.

You already seem to have taken charge and you clearly know the
program.  Use that new kitchen and whip up some perfect meals.

Good luck.

and .....

   __o
  -\<,
 ( )( )  Keep on pedaling.

>After weeks, Months, of eating what and when I want to eat, regardless
>of the effect on the scale, I seem to have gotten my groove back, and
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>bones that nothing tastes as good as thin feels. I hope I can still
>say that tomorrow and next week and next year.
Prairie Roots - 17 Apr 2005 15:04 GMT
Thanks Fred. These days I'm wishing retirement was an option. Rather,
I've been told again and again that I'm on the executive track.
Honestly, I'm not convinced I want that. I'd rather have a life, but
it's so easy for me to get sucked into the demands and drama of the
workplace. I will say that present circumstances have me considering
counseling to help me sort out how to cope with all of it.

I get the schedule for two bicycling clubs, and May is Crazy-Filled
with bike rides. There are a couple of Saturdays that have 3 C-Level
rides (the level I rode last year) and 2 B-Level rides, all on the
same day. Incentive in abundance!

Have you been hearing/reading the latest reports in New England
Journal of Medicine about the dangers of drinking too much water
during endurance sports? It's been the topic of a very long thread on
one of my bicycling club newsgroups. As I've read about the symptoms
of hyponatremia, I've thought about you, especially when you write
about the foods you crave post-activity. Apparently, the articles talk
about the reduced blood-levels of sodium and potassium, and becoming
more dehydrated as a result of drinking water.

Here's one of the responses that made me think about you: "When Mike
and I rode across the US in 2000, we recovered noticeably better
drinking V-8 juice instead of Gatorade. Maybe it was the sodium? You
would think that the sports drink would be better, but apparently not.
I also crave Salsa Verde Doritos on long rides and chocolate milk
afterwards."

USA Track and Field hyponatremia site:

http://www.usatf.org/groups/coaches/library/hydration

And here's another bicycling ascii art item. It's the sig line used by
many of the members of one of my bicycling clubs to show it's a club
for everyone.  

 o          _~o       _~o __o       __o
_\_/\_    _-\<,_    _-\<,_\<,_    _-\<,_
(_)    O  (_)/ (_)  (_)/   / (_)  (_)/ (_)

--
Linda P
232/168/145
mini-goal: 165

>I just want to say that you have full support and sympathy.  I, too,
>had those "I want to eat that!"  I cannot even attribute it to
[quoted text clipped - 76 lines]
>>bones that nothing tastes as good as thin feels. I hope I can still
>>say that tomorrow and next week and next year.
Fred - 18 Apr 2005 05:21 GMT
>Thanks Fred. These days I'm wishing retirement was an option. Rather,
>I've been told again and again that I'm on the executive track.
>Honestly, I'm not convinced I want that. I'd rather have a life, but
>it's so easy for me to get sucked into the demands and drama of the
>workplace. I will say that present circumstances have me considering
>counseling to help me sort out how to cope with all of it.

I must admit that I'm not a management person.  I don't think its my
personality to work in that kind of environment.  I'm more a soloist.

>I get the schedule for two bicycling clubs, and May is Crazy-Filled
>with bike rides. There are a couple of Saturdays that have 3 C-Level
>rides (the level I rode last year) and 2 B-Level rides, all on the
>same day. Incentive in abundance!

Glad you have rides that provide incentive.  Yes, Spring, has more
rides and summer here an abundance.  Have fun choosing - maybe modest
at first and then more (g)

>Have you been hearing/reading the latest reports in New England
>Journal of Medicine about the dangers of drinking too much water
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>about the reduced blood-levels of sodium and potassium, and becoming
>more dehydrated as a result of drinking water.

I have been reading and hearing it on npr and tv.  It is interesting
that it is apparently more serious than dehydration.  I do crave salty
stuff.

>Here's one of the responses that made me think about you: "When Mike
>and I rode across the US in 2000, we recovered noticeably better
>drinking V-8 juice instead of Gatorade. Maybe it was the sodium? You
>would think that the sports drink would be better, but apparently not.
>I also crave Salsa Verde Doritos on long rides and chocolate milk
>afterwards."

I love nice salty tomato juice which I think has more sodium than v-8
even.  I will sometimes buy one of those mid-size jars and drink it on
the drive home.  I use to take salt tablets but then so many folks
said they are not healthy.  I did hear the "sports drinks" are NOT
salty enough to counter the affects of too much water and the main
reason - they would taste too salty to be popular.  I know some folks
who will put a few shakes of salt in their water bottles but I've not
done that.

I have come back and felt "hung over" the next day - I have always
attributed it to loss of all soluable nutrients, minerals, vitamins.

>USA Track and Field hyponatremia site:
>
>http://www.usatf.org/groups/coaches/library/hydration

Thanks.

>And here's another bicycling ascii art item. It's the sig line used by
>many of the members of one of my bicycling clubs to show it's a club
>for everyone.  

>   o          _~o       _~o __o       __o
> _\_/\_    _-\<,_    _-\<,_\<,_    _-\<,_
> (_)    O  (_)/ (_)  (_)/   / (_)  (_)/ (_)

I like the recumbent (G)
Prairie Roots - 19 Apr 2005 02:58 GMT
>>Thanks Fred. These days I'm wishing retirement was an option. Rather,
>>I've been told again and again that I'm on the executive track.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>I must admit that I'm not a management person.  I don't think its my
>personality to work in that kind of environment.  I'm more a soloist.

I don't mind managing when I've got people who don't require
supervision. I'm big on collaborative efforts among equals. I use the
book "Organizing Genius" by Warren Bennis as my guide: "None of us is
as smart as all of us."  

>>I get the schedule for two bicycling clubs, and May is Crazy-Filled
>>with bike rides. There are a couple of Saturdays that have 3 C-Level
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>rides and summer here an abundance.  Have fun choosing - maybe modest
>at first and then more (g)

Just in time for my new bike, one of the groups has training rides for
people who want to be B-level riders. Now I just have to get my body
in good enough shape to join in.

>>Have you been hearing/reading the latest reports in New England
>>Journal of Medicine about the dangers of drinking too much water
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
>who will put a few shakes of salt in their water bottles but I've not
>done that.

My club's e-group thread on the subject contained a few recipes and
other tips. If you're interested, I'll copy some here for you.

>I have come back and felt "hung over" the next day - I have always
>attributed it to loss of all soluable nutrients, minerals, vitamins.

One of the club leaders says the symptoms of hyponatremia feel a lot
like bonking.  

>>USA Track and Field hyponatremia site:
>>
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
>I like the recumbent (G)
Fred - 19 Apr 2005 05:32 GMT
>>>Thanks Fred. These days I'm wishing retirement was an option. Rather,
>>>I've been told again and again that I'm on the executive track.
>>>Honestly, I'm not convinced I want that. I'd rather have a life, but
>>>it's so easy for me to get sucked into the demands and drama of the
>>>workplace. I will say that present circumstances have me considering
>>>counseling to help me sort out how to cope with all of it.

>>I must admit that I'm not a management person.  I don't think its my
>>personality to work in that kind of environment.  I'm more a soloist.

>I don't mind managing when I've got people who don't require
>supervision. I'm big on collaborative efforts among equals. I use the
>book "Organizing Genius" by Warren Bennis as my guide: "None of us is
>as smart as all of us."  

I hope I am now past that stage.  My job remains pretty solo with one
part-time secretary that I carefully select for our very small office.

>>>I get the schedule for two bicycling clubs, and May is Crazy-Filled
>>>with bike rides. There are a couple of Saturdays that have 3 C-Level
>>>rides (the level I rode last year) and 2 B-Level rides, all on the
>>>same day. Incentive in abundance!

>>Glad you have rides that provide incentive.  Yes, Spring, has more
>>rides and summer here an abundance.  Have fun choosing - maybe modest
>>at first and then more (g)

>Just in time for my new bike, one of the groups has training rides for
>people who want to be B-level riders. Now I just have to get my body
>in good enough shape to join in.

Join in and use that to get the body in shape.

I was going to comment on the "looked cute in bike clothes" thread but
lost it somewhere.  I recall trying on blue cross-country ski pants
many years ago and deciding I looked like a stuffed grape!!!!  NOT
CUTE!!

>>>Have you been hearing/reading the latest reports in New England
>>>Journal of Medicine about the dangers of drinking too much water
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>>>about the reduced blood-levels of sodium and potassium, and becoming
>>>more dehydrated as a result of drinking water.

>>I have been reading and hearing it on npr and tv.  It is interesting
>>that it is apparently more serious than dehydration.  I do crave salty
>>stuff.

>>>Here's one of the responses that made me think about you: "When Mike
>>>and I rode across the US in 2000, we recovered noticeably better
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>>who will put a few shakes of salt in their water bottles but I've not
>>done that.

>My club's e-group thread on the subject contained a few recipes and
>other tips. If you're interested, I'll copy some here for you.

Yes, thanks.

>>I have come back and felt "hung over" the next day - I have always
>>attributed it to loss of all soluable nutrients, minerals, vitamins.
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>>
>>I like the recumbent (G)
Prairie Roots - 20 Apr 2005 02:28 GMT
>>>>Thanks Fred. These days I'm wishing retirement was an option. Rather,
>>>>I've been told again and again that I'm on the executive track.
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
>
>Join in and use that to get the body in shape.

The first of these isn't until May 14 so I have a few weeks to get
used to my saddle or buy a replacement. And I really must be in
slightly better cardio condition than I am right now. But I went for
another club ride tonight. That makes two evenings in a row.

>I was going to comment on the "looked cute in bike clothes" thread but
>lost it somewhere.  I recall trying on blue cross-country ski pants
[quoted text clipped - 34 lines]
>
>Yes, thanks.

I started a new Off-topic thread called More on Hyponatremia. Enjoy.
Here's a link to the article on hyponatremia and the Boston Marathon
in the New England Journal of Medicine.
http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/short/352/15/1550

>>>I have come back and felt "hung over" the next day - I have always
>>>attributed it to loss of all soluable nutrients, minerals, vitamins.
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>>>
>>>I like the recumbent (G)
Catherine White - 18 Apr 2005 20:49 GMT
Hi, Linda, You made a good choice to change your eatting habits.  You did it
once, you can do it again.
Take Care
Catherine
After weeks, Months, of eating what and when I want to eat, regardless
of the effect on the scale, I seem to have gotten my groove back, and
I'm now eating for weight loss. I can't explain what happened that I
ceased to care about the correlation between eating large quantities
of certain foods and weight gain. It's as if I needed to prove to
myself how quickly I could regain all my weight if I returned to my
pre-WW way of eating. Despite my return to program several weeks ago,
I knew at the time that I would give it less than my best effort,
because deep down, I just didn't care. Eating what I wanted was simply
more important. Work has been very stressful, and I've used that as my
excuse to overeat and underexercise.

As a result, none of the summer clothes I bought last year when I
reached my WW goal of 145 fit me this year. All of my size S clothes
are staring me in the face, unwearable, and even most of the size Ms
have become snug. Last year I was wearing size 6 & 8 clothes; this
year I'm in 10s & 12s. Worst of all, none of my bicycling clothes fit.

Last Friday, something changed. As I ate my way through X number of
pastries after breakfast, and french fries with lunch, and a pint of
ice cream and a bag of chips for dinner, I felt myself getting angrier
and angrier that I had become so willing to throw away all that hard
work of 1-1/2 yrs to lose 87 lbs. By the time I went to bed Friday
night, I knew that I had to make a choice. I could continue my
out-of-control eating. That would mean I'd weigh more than 200 lbs by
next Christmas (if not sooner). I'd be wearing size 20+ clothes. And
I'd have to sell my bicycles because I knew I wouldn't/couldn't ride
them if I was obese. OR I could eat sanely, lose weight and fit into
the clothes I already have, and keep my bikes.

In that moment of decision, something clicked and I made the
connection between my eating and my weight. I cannot eat whatever I
want whenever I want and expect to be normal weight. For some reason,
the present reality of my bike clothes not fitting and the potential
reality of giving up my bikes helped me make that connection.

Thankfully, when I woke up Saturday morning, my mind was still clear
and my resolve to return to a healthy way of eating and a normal
weight had not abated. Sadly, after a week of frenzied eating, the
scale showed 176.8. On Sunday, after one day of sane and planned
eating, the scale had dropped to 170.6, which I think is a truer
reflection of my weight gain since Christmas. Since then, I've been
weighing and measuring my food and avoiding both sugary and high fat
foods. In addition, I've managed to go to the gym twice and plan to go
again later this morning. Now that the morning temps are averaging
well above freezing, I'm planning next week to resume bike commuting.
The schedules for club bicycle rides are beginning to fill too and so
I hope to do at least one club ride next week.

This morning the scale read 168 after a couple of days at 167. Oh
well. Today, what's more important to me than the number on the scale
is that my head is on straight. For the first time ever, I know in my
bones that nothing tastes as good as thin feels. I hope I can still
say that tomorrow and next week and next year.
--
Linda P
168.2/168/10% goal: 151
mini-goal: 165

prairierootsmnSNIPTHIS@yahooANDTHIS.com
Joyce - 22 Apr 2005 09:15 GMT
>After weeks, Months, of eating what and when I want to eat, regardless
>of the effect on the scale, I seem to have gotten my groove back, and
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>more important. Work has been very stressful, and I've used that as my
>excuse to overeat and underexercise.

It amazes me how similar our stories are!  I've also tried back on program for the
past month - a few days here and there that seemed to quickly go by the wayside -
definitely a lack of effort on my part.  I think I did care, just not enough ...
if that makes sense.

>As a result, none of the summer clothes I bought last year when I
>reached my WW goal of 145 fit me this year. All of my size S clothes
>are staring me in the face, unwearable, and even most of the size Ms
>have become snug. Last year I was wearing size 6 & 8 clothes; this
>year I'm in 10s & 12s. Worst of all, none of my bicycling clothes fit.

And again, the same.  Although I think the 6's were generous 6's for me. <g>  And
now I need those generous 10's.  LOL  None of the summer clothes fit, not even
going to try squeezing into them.  They aren't THAT generous.

<snipped a bit>

>Thankfully, when I woke up Saturday morning, my mind was still clear
>and my resolve to return to a healthy way of eating and a normal
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>The schedules for club bicycle rides are beginning to fill too and so
>I hope to do at least one club ride next week.

Not really frenzy eating on my part, just not smart.  Too many quickie meals ...
pizza, burgers, etc.  Running constantly and not having a plan are definite
killers for me.  Funny how those old habits can come flying back and take control
so quickly.  Our numbers again are so similar.  I got brave and hit the scale
Tuesday morning - nothing like a bit of reality to shift things into gear.  168.5
here.  Not good, but not nearly as bad as I had myself convinced of.  Three days
back on plan and I'm doing good, sliding back down ever so slowly.  Back to
weighing/measuring the food and drinking the water which I hadn't done for months.
Next is getting back into the exercise routine.

>This morning the scale read 168 after a couple of days at 167. Oh
>well. Today, what's more important to me than the number on the scale
>is that my head is on straight. For the first time ever, I know in my
>bones that nothing tastes as good as thin feels. I hope I can still
>say that tomorrow and next week and next year.

LOL!  I hope I can say it just one day.  Unfortunately for me, those hot fudge
sundaes still taste soooooooooo good.  I'm getting there though, am sucking at
sugar free popsicles instead.  I bought a package of No Pudge cookie's & cream
icecream bars ... will not buy them again.  Way too sweet, tasted rather
artificial to me.  I'm sticking with the skinny cows if/when I need that icecream
fix.

Joyce
Prairie Roots - 23 Apr 2005 01:54 GMT
>>This morning the scale read 168 after a couple of days at 167. Oh
>>well. Today, what's more important to me than the number on the scale
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>artificial to me.  I'm sticking with the skinny cows if/when I need that icecream
>fix.

I may have had my one chance to say it and mean. Now it's back to
nitty gritty determination, which has been tested this week with a
couple of lunches out and a Happy Hour. I'm staying away from dairy,
other than milk, or anything that resembles dairy, since that's a
dangerous food group for me. SF Popsicles, though, are another story.
I figure I can have a bunch of those and not do too much damage. And
they satisfy the need/desire for a treat. OK, where'd I put my car
keys! LOL

Great to have you posting again.
--
Linda P
Joyce - 30 Apr 2005 04:51 GMT
>>>This morning the scale read 168 after a couple of days at 167. Oh
>>>well. Today, what's more important to me than the number on the scale
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>they satisfy the need/desire for a treat. OK, where'd I put my car
>keys! LOL

I'm with you on the determination!  Once again, it took me facing facts (the
scale) to get my head back into things.  There's something about that silly number
and not being able to fool yourself ... for me anyway.  No tests for me this week,
everything has been very calm.  Of course, it probably helped that hub and kids
were very ill and asked for nothing other than soup ... and my homemade chicken
soup is very point friendly (and lots of water - lol).  I also picked up a few of
the lean cuisine boxes to help me IF things were thrown off kilter, at least I
would have a plan of sorts.  Maybe that was the insurance needed to keep things
peaceful?  Regardless, I tried the new salmon one and a few other of their new
*spa* line - found them extremely delicious.  I don't want to make a habit out of
these lunches, but dang, I did enjoy them.  LOL  The SF popsicles have been saving
me from the nitetime munchies.  I am a bit amused by this little fact though,
since I never like popsicles ... I am really liking them now.  At 15 calories
each, not too much damage can be done - and one is enough for me.  We currently
have 2 boxes in the freezer (probably 1 since each is about half full now).  Hub
likes the Snapple brand, I prefer the popsicle brand.  Dairy doesn't seem to
bother me, but the chocolate food group <grin> does ... so I am limiting myself to
1 point/day.  Haven't had much of a problem so far.  And unlike Fred, meringues
are my friend.  I have a container sitting on my computer desk, find I don't dip
into it much - maybe one cookie here and there.  Opened the container last week
and it is still 3/4 full.  If you can't find your keys, give a shout ... we have
more keys than we know what to do with (too many vehicles in this household).

>Great to have you posting again.

Thanks dear, you can't imagine how good it feels to be back as well as to be back
in control.

I have officially changed my sig, but am leaving in my OLD goal dates (as well as
the "ish").  It makes me feel good about myself and I figure I still deserve that
credit!  LOL

Joyce
started ww 2/5/02 --->  228.8/164.5/150ww goal/140ish personal goal
WW GOAL!!!  2/21/03  ---> LIFETIME 4/4/03
PERSONAL GOAL: 5/16/03
 
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