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aurora - 14 Nov 2005 22:24 GMT
Hello everyone,  Let me give you some history.  Well I am 29 yrs old, F
5'6" tall, and now weigh 186 lbs.  In January 2005 I weighed 262 lbs bu
I lost it by walking 6 miles every day and eating clean.  I never used
set nutrition program just stayed away from the fried foods, candy
soda, etc.  I am here because sometime in August 2005 I hit a platea
and even changing my exercise routine did not help.  I started LC i
mid Sept because I had had previous success with it.  I really enjo
it, and have been on it now for about 2 months. (strictly induction, n
cheating)  My problem is that I lost 8 lbs within the first 3 weeks an
nothing there after.  I now walk about a mile a day only.  Since I los
the weight my hip joints hurt a lot. Kinda like arthiritis.  Now I a
always so fatigued. and I know I lost a lot of muscle mass. I feel s
weak.  I've been reading a lot about cyclic ketogenic diets and woul
like to try one, for the fat loss, then cut up later.(my goal in not t
be a body builder, just thin and healthy!)  I am a size 16 pant size
but still have a dangerous 41 1/2 inch waist (apple shape).  M
question, on the days that I carb up (since I want to lose fat first
should I do cardio or resistance?  Any help will be much appreciated.
Thanks, Auror

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aurora
aurora - 14 Nov 2005 23:34 GMT
aurora Wrote:
> Hello everyone,  Let me give you some history.  Well I am 29 yrs old, F
> 5'6" tall, and now weigh 186 lbs.  In January 2005 I weighed 262 lbs bu
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> to lose fat first) should I do cardio or resistance?  Any hel
> concerning ckd or nutrition is much appreciated. Thanks, Aurora  I just want to add that weightloss is possible through clean diet an
exercise, no pills, or supplements

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aurora
Franco - 15 Nov 2005 05:55 GMT
Hi Aurora,

What are you doing for cardio and resistance?

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> Hello everyone,  Let me give you some history.  Well I am 29 yrs old, F,
> 5'6" tall, and now weigh 186 lbs.  In January 2005 I weighed 262 lbs but
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> should I do cardio or resistance?  Any help will be much appreciated.
> Thanks, Aurora
aurora - 19 Nov 2005 05:32 GMT
Franco Wrote:
> Hi Aurora,
>
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> aurora  hey franco, for cardio i walk and at home i do situps, push ups smal
weights, squats, etc.  i don't own any equiptment

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aurora
rmr - 15 Nov 2005 18:34 GMT
>Well I am 29 yrs old, F,
>5'6" tall, and now weigh 186 lbs.  In January 2005 I weighed 262 lbs but
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>question, on the days that I carb up (since I want to lose fat first)
>should I do cardio or resistance?  Any help will be much appreciated.

Well done on losing a huge amount of weight. 262 - 186 is fantastic.

If you have hit a plateau at this stage (assuming no medical
conditions - if so see a doctor) it means you are eating too much. A
simple diet of cutting out crap and exercising will work for a time,
but eventually you have to do a bit more than that.

LC is a good idea to change things round a bit, and it suits some
people well. The initial 8 pounds lost will be just water weight.
Basically it sounds like you are still eating at maintenance. I assume
your weight fluctuates a lot if you are doing a weekly carb up?

You shoiuld log everything you eat and drink in fitday.com for a
couple of weeks to see how many calories you consume, then depending
on how much you've lost in the meantime, cut back by about 500-1000
calories a day.

However before starting that you should probably eat 'normally' or
maybe a little over maintenance for 2 weeks. This will reset your
metabolism, which after a good few months of dietting is probably a
little suppressed.

CKD is a bit complicated for someone who is still obese, but you could
try www.bodyrecomposition.com for some pointers. Start with the diet
sections, but take a look at the womens section too.

You might find cardio is pretty difficult on a strict KD, or even a
CKD. Resistance training is the way to go, or at least that's my
excuse:)

Ray
aurora - 19 Nov 2005 05:35 GMT
rmr Wrote:
> Well I am 29 yrs old, F,
> 5'6" tall, and now weigh 186 lbs.  In January 2005 I weighed 262 lb
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>
> Ray
hey ray, this summer i did do some weight watcher (2months) and wa
very strict watching all my calories, didn't lose   and the whole tim
walked about 3 miles a day plus had a physically demanading job.
right now i am so afraid to add more food.  i never want to be tha
weight again.  thank

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aurora
Tayra - 19 Nov 2005 10:44 GMT
> hey ray, this summer i did do some weight watcher (2months) and wasvery
strict watching all my calories, didn't lose   and the whole timewalked
about 3 miles a day plus had a physically demanading job.  right now i am
so afraid to add more food.  i never want to be thatweight again.
thanks-- aurora

One of the biggest problems people have is not eating enough when
dieting.  I know that sounds crazy at first, but it's true.  If WW didn't
work for you, you may very well have been eating too little.

Your body needs a certain number of calories a day just to function, even
if you don't do any exercise at all.  If you're not even getting that
number, and then add a bunch of exercise and work on top of it, your
metabolism will completely shut down, because it's scared you're going to
die from lack of food.

If your daily point target was 24 points, and you didn't eat every single
one of them, you probably didn't lose weight.  If you exercised and didn't
use any of those points, you probably didn't lose weight.  If you never
used any of your flex points, you probably didn't lose weight.  Put all
three together, and you get.. no weight loss.

So, while it's good to make sure you're not eating too much, you also need
to make very sure you're not eating too *little*.  That'll screw you up
even worse than overeating, because you have no idea you're doing things
wrong.  At least if you're stuffing your face with pecan pie, you know why
you're not losing.

So that's my two cents.  Don't fear the food!  Just don't eat all of it :)

-Tay, computer still broken because she's a lazy-bones
aurora - 20 Nov 2005 07:19 GMT
Tayra Wrote:

> hey ray, this summer i did do some weight watcher (2months) an
> wasvery
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> -Tay, computer still broken because she's a lazy-bones
tayra thank you so much, i do see your point im just so scared.
seriously scared

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aurora
ahmward - 20 Nov 2005 18:49 GMT
> Tayra Wrote:
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> tayra thank you so much, i do see your point im just so scared.
> seriously scared.

Aurora

Don't be afraid.  Just be cautious in adding a bit more at a time and
keep watching the scale.  Give yourself a month to see how this works.
I do a lot of social eating so I balance those days with the ones where
I cook at home.  At home I am conscious of the program, points, and the
right foods so it balances the meals where I have no control over the
choices.  It works.

Audrey
aurora - 21 Nov 2005 01:02 GMT
ahmward Wrote:

> Tayra Wrote:[color=green]
> In article aurora.1yqfg0@news.weightlossbanter.com, aurora
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> Audrey
thanks once again-aurora  :

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aurora
rmr - 20 Nov 2005 21:11 GMT
>tayra thank you so much, i do see your point im just so scared.
>seriously scared.

Read my post again. Nobody said anything about putting any weight on.

First eat at about maintenance for a couple of weeks or even a LITTLE
above. Log EVERYTHING into fitday.com to find out what your
maintenance calories are. people are terrible at recording calories so
make sure you do it properly.

Then drop by 500 calories a day or a 1000 if you gained a pound or so.

when you've been dietting for a while and especially if you diet hard
your metabloism will crash. This will make you feel awful and you will
find it increasingly difficult to lose weight. Eating at maintenance
for a while will reset your metabolism quite quickly, and allow you to
get back on track with losing.

Ray
aurora - 21 Nov 2005 01:23 GMT
rmr Wrote:
> tayra thank you so much, i do see your point im just so scared.
> seriously scared.
>
> Read my post again. Nobody said anything about putting any weight on.
>
> Ray
thanks, will do - auror

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aurora
Stormmee - 21 Nov 2005 10:40 GMT
this is excellent advice, Lee
> >tayra thank you so much, i do see your point im just so scared.
> >seriously scared.
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>
> Ray
Stormmee - 21 Nov 2005 10:38 GMT
I know you are, I am as well, but it really makes a difference to losing,
and when you do eat enough you will gain perhaps but the losing on the other
side is worth it, Lee

> Tayra Wrote:
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> aurora
Stormmee - 21 Nov 2005 10:36 GMT
this is one of the largest factors in my being overweight, it has been a
serious struggle to eat enough, Lee, but not this week!!!

> > hey ray, this summer i did do some weight watcher (2months) and wasvery
> strict watching all my calories, didn't lose   and the whole timewalked
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>
> -Tay, computer still broken because she's a lazy-bones
 
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