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Bazooka-Joe - 27 Jan 2006 23:54 GMT
I got the talk from my wife today.  She wants to see me lose some
weight.  Wants to see me healthier, thinner, with more energy.  Wants
to be more physically attracted to me.  Wants me to have more
self-confidence.  She was gentle about it.  I didn't walk away from the
conversation hating her in some sort of "just accept me" attitude or
anything.  I know she's right.  It was a bit depressing but I
appreciate her honesty.

I have to admit though.  I'm overwhelmed.  I'm 26, 5'7", and 212 lbs.
The WW website says I should weigh about 127 and 153.  I haven't
weighed that since I was in 8th grade.  I was athletic and thin until
about my junior year of high school (97).  I'd love to be that again.
I desperately want to.  Not just for my wife but for me.  But loosing
60-85 pounds seems like an enormous number that I'll never reach.
Honestly I liked how I looked and felt at 170, personally.

I have no energy.  The thought of exercise makes me cringe.  Seeing my
fat, bloated body waddling on a treadmill or being completely winded
after 10 situps.  How disgusting.  I've tried and failed at so many
diet plans that I didn't stick with that I'm beginning to feel like I'm
somehow "supposed" to be fat the rest of my life.  Like my body's
incapable of losing that much weight or something.  Not to mention
keeping it off.  My dad's almost 50.  Diabetes, high blood pressure,
high cholesterol, overweight, doc says he's a stroke/heart attack
victim waiting to happen if ever he's seen one.  I don't want to be
that either.  That scares me.

I just need to hear that it's not too late.  That I *can* do this.  Is
Weight Watchers for me?  Will it help?  I've done it before, but always
online, never attended meetings.  Always lost 10 pounds in the first
couple of weeks and then...nothing.  So I'd quit.  I bet this sounds
like a hundred other sob stories out there.  Sorry if this sounds like
a troll.  I don't mean it to.

:Bazooka-Joe
Nunya B. - 28 Jan 2006 00:03 GMT
>I got the talk from my wife today.  She wants to see me lose some
> weight.  Wants to see me healthier, thinner, with more energy.  Wants
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> :Bazooka-Joe

It is definitely not too late!  After numerous attempts at weight loss I
finally reached a normal weight for the first time in my life at age 37.
I'm 39 now and on WW to get back down to where I want to be.

I recommend the meetings.  They offer a bit of motivation you might not find
on line.

Don't look at the total amount as so huge, break it into smaller amounts
(mini goals) to help keep up the motivation.  Same thing with the exercise.
If you don't like sit ups and the treadmill, find something else to do.
Start small and work your way up.  You'll find as you lose weight you'll get
more energy and enjoy more activities.
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Bazooka-Joe - 28 Jan 2006 00:15 GMT
> >I got the talk from my wife today.  She wants to see me lose some
> > weight.  Wants to see me healthier, thinner, with more energy.  Wants
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> the volleyballchick
> 100+ lbs lost

Thanks.  As you probably guessed, this is my first time here.  And
really, this is the day I'm making up my mind to lose the weight.  I'm
leaning towards WW, but am considering LA Weight Loss and Jenny Craig
too (but JC seems kinda spendy).  I did the Atkins thing and I won't do
it again.  I hope to do the meetings.  You can pay week-to-week can't
you?  You don't have to pay for the whole month or year up front do
you?

My BMI is something like 33 right now (apparently I was obese after
30).

I'll try breaking it down into mini goals.  Seems like a good idea.
Goal #1:  190
Goal #2:  175 (I'd be pretty happy with myself if I even made it this
far)
Goals #3:  150

:Bazooka-Joe
Lesanne - 28 Jan 2006 02:06 GMT
I am about your height. I used to think I could never get to goal either,
but here I am, and I have been here for almost 2 1/2 years now. I had a lot
more to lose than you do :). It can be done. If I were you though, I would
lose the revolting self talk. Do like Sylvester Stallone suggests, work out
and tell yourself  "I'm big, but I'm strong". Follow the good health
guidelines in your food choices and eventually you will be both strong, and
no longer that big....
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>> >I got the talk from my wife today.  She wants to see me lose some
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> :Bazooka-Joe
Nunya B. - 28 Jan 2006 17:23 GMT
> Thanks.  As you probably guessed, this is my first time here.  And
> really, this is the day I'm making up my mind to lose the weight.  I'm
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> you?  You don't have to pay for the whole month or year up front do
> you?

You can pay week to week with WW.  It's much less spendy than the other
programs plus you don't have to eat their food so you don't end up spending
more on food either.

From my personal experience, the meal replacement programs are good when you
are morbidly obese and have tried many programs without any success.  It's
also very important to transition from the meal replacements to real food
*before* you hit goal and not afterward.  You really need to learn how to
eat real food and it's better to practice while in the weight loss phase
rather than waiting for maintenance.

> My BMI is something like 33 right now (apparently I was obese after
> 30).
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> far)
> Goals #3:  150

These sound like very reasonable goals.  I just set some mini-goals but
don't have a final goal.  I'll know I'm there when I get there :)  I do have
a goal pants size/waist size which is more important to me than BMI or scale
number.
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ahmward - 28 Jan 2006 18:00 GMT
>> Thanks.  As you probably guessed, this is my first time here.  And
>> really, this is the day I'm making up my mind to lose the weight.
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> I do have a goal pants size/waist size which is more important to me
> than BMI or scale number.
I also use pants size/ waist size for my goal. The smaller size is
beginning to be too snug because of my excess eating and drinking this
month.  It is very depressing and I know I want them loose again so I
have just planned a week of very healthy eating with daily exercise.
This is a mini goal for me.  I am going to weigh in on Thursday for my
February weigh in and my goal is not to pay.  I have therefore looked at
the days from now until then and know they include a lunch and dinner
out on Tuesday, but, I can control those choices as I will control
choices for the rest of the week.  Today I plan to set up a journal for
these five days and fill in my evening dinner plans for the nights I am
at home.

Audrey

Audrey
Nunya B. - 28 Jan 2006 19:29 GMT
>>> Thanks.  As you probably guessed, this is my first time here.  And
>>> really, this is the day I'm making up my mind to lose the weight. I'm
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> Audrey

Sounds like you have a great plan.  I am only a small bit away from one of
my major goals and it's helped keep me on track.  Now that I have a weekend
at home I am making lots of advance meals because it's going to be a busy
week.

I will send positive vibes your way for a successful week!
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Stormmee - 29 Jan 2006 14:53 GMT
here are my mini goals so you can have some other feedback:
1. I currently weigh 163.8 started at 251.6, lowest weight was 151.2 so
- first goal 161.6 to get back to 90 pounds lost.
- 159.8 to get back to below 160
- 156.6 to get back to 95 pounds lost
- 151.6 to get back to 100 pounds lost
- 149.8 to get below 150

again good luck, Lee

> > Thanks.  As you probably guessed, this is my first time here.  And
> > really, this is the day I'm making up my mind to lose the weight.  I'm
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> the volleyballchick
Doug Lerner - 28 Jan 2006 00:10 GMT
On 1/28/06 8:54 AM, in article
1138406055.414003.101670@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com, "Bazooka-Joe"
<bazooka-joe@comcast.net> wrote:

> I just need to hear that it's not too late.

It's not too late.

I am a 49 year old basically sedentary male and managed to lose over 60
pounds the last 34 weeks without excessive exercise (just moderate exercise)
and the amount of portion/calorie control that anybody can do if they are
just willing to give up utter gluttony and eat reasonably.

At 26 you should do even better than I have.

It's a perfect time to do this!

> That I *can* do this.  Is
> Weight Watchers for me?  Will it help?  I've done it before, but always
> online, never attended meetings.  Always lost 10 pounds in the first
> couple of weeks and then...nothing.  So I'd quit.  I bet this sounds
> like a hundred other sob stories out there.  Sorry if this sounds like
> a troll.  I don't mean it to.

My diet isn't Weight Watchers but it is basically like it. Just counting
calories instead of their points. So I think the WW plan is good.

The problem is, you are facing a psychological barrier right now, not
wanting to get back into a plan that has not worked for you before.

When that happens, it's time to tweak your diet approach until it clicks and
feels right for you.

If online was not the right thing for you, then how about trying their
meetings? Maybe what you need is the extra feedback and support.

If that doesn't work, maybe you need to do what I'm doing and measure
calories directly in a slightly alternate plan.

The main thing though is to not give up.

If you fall off the wagon, try again.

If the next time doesn't work, then try again.

If that next time doesn't seem to be "it", then try again.

And if all else fails - try again!

At some point you will find the right combination of diet/exercise methods
that clicks for you, something you can stay on for years.

doug
Kate Dicey - 28 Jan 2006 01:02 GMT
> I got the talk from my wife today.  She wants to see me lose some
> weight.  Wants to see me healthier, thinner, with more energy.  Wants
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> anything.  I know she's right.  It was a bit depressing but I
> appreciate her honesty.

Be nice to her.  She wants to keep you, and is doing her best.

> I have to admit though.  I'm overwhelmed.  I'm 26, 5'7", and 212 lbs.
> The WW website says I should weigh about 127 and 153.  I haven't
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> 60-85 pounds seems like an enormous number that I'll never reach.
> Honestly I liked how I looked and felt at 170, personally.

Don't let the big numbers get to you.  Do it in baby steps.  I've lost
57-60 (depending on the week!) in slow baby steps.  It goes.  Just don't
rush it.  Losing it for yourself is the best way to go.  Maybe the wife
gave you the key, but only you can do the losing.  You can.  You will.

> I have no energy.  The thought of exercise makes me cringe.  Seeing my
> fat, bloated body waddling on a treadmill or being completely winded
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> victim waiting to happen if ever he's seen one.  I don't want to be
> that either.  That scares me.

So ditch the treadmill and the sit-ups.  Try just walking out in the
fresh air: 20 minutes a day, and fast enough to make you somewhat
breathless at the end (takes 3-5 minutes to get your breath back) will
do for starters.  And try swimming.  At 47, fat (213lbs and 5'4" tall!),
and all wobbly and blearch and arthritic I got me cozzy out and started
swimming.  That first day I managed 20 lengths in an hour!  18 months
later, at 49 and still arthritic, 57 or so pounds lighter thanks to WW,
I managed 60 in 75 minutes today, and it was a bad day for the Arthur!
Energy levels and enthusiasm shoot up ans the weight slides off.

> I just need to hear that it's not too late.  That I *can* do this.  Is
> Weight Watchers for me?  Will it help?  I've done it before, but always
> online, never attended meetings.  Always lost 10 pounds in the first
> couple of weeks and then...nothing.  So I'd quit.  I bet this sounds
> like a hundred other sob stories out there.  Sorry if this sounds like
> a troll.  I don't mean it to.

Nah, just sounds like a depressed kid.  And of course it isn't too late.
 I'm almost twice your age, and it isn't too late for me, so how can it
be too late for you?  Hit the URL below, and look in my Posh Frocks
gallery.  The first picture at the top is me before the weight loss.
The ones at the bottom are also me, last week!  For better ones of me
now, look at the Black Velvet Bodice.

Maybe you should try a meeting.  I thought I'd hate them, but actually
mine are quite fun, and it means you really *DO* have to put yourself
first once a week!  Get some of the cookbooks, and get both you and your
wife involved in the cooking.  I cook WW style all the time, even when
we have guests.  They love the food, and no-one is ever hungry after a
meal.  DH and son have higher octane snacks than I do, but even they
appreciate the healthy food style, with masses of salads, fresh veg, low
fat stuff, and have switched to less chocolate, fewer sweet snacks,
lower fat crisps and stuff, and more fruit.  If it's good for me (49 and
with fibromyalgia), good for DH (54 and a type 1 diabetic on insulin),
and good for the Son & Heir to the Family Debts (11, learning to swim,
plays football and does judo), then it'll be good for you too.

You may hate the exercise (or even just the thought of exercise) at this
point: I did.  I still do!  You will never EVER catch me in a gymn
outside of a pain management course, but I swim 2-3 times a week, and as
soon as the weather improves, I'll be getting back to my daily 2 mile
hike to fetch the lad home from school!

Good luck!

> :Bazooka-Joe

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rmr - 28 Jan 2006 16:10 GMT
>I got the talk from my wife today.  She wants to see me lose some
>weight.  Wants to see me healthier, thinner, with more energy.  Wants
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>
>:Bazooka-Joe

Take a look at the halls-md site
http://www.halls.md/ideal-weight/body.htm
This will help you set up a long term goal. It seems to be on the
ball. The figures work well for me.

121-160 is the medical recommendation
146 is Halls idea of an ideal weight.

As doug said "it's not too late". In fact you are in an ideal position
to lose weight. Similar to Doug I'm 48 and over the past 4 years I've
gone from 273 to 194. I have been a bit lower, but I gained over the
holiday and I'm losing again now.

WW has a great support network, and counting/logging points helps you
become aware of what you are eating. But I prefer to do this my way,
so again similar to Doug I count calories.

Another good site is EXRX
http://www.exrx.net/Lists/Beginning.html
This will tell you how many calories you need to maintain, and so
dropping that by 500 per day will make you lose 1 pound a week or so.

Exercise is something that will help enormously. Not so much with
weight loss but with fitness in general. You should try to find some
kind of exercise that you like, or at least can tolerate. I hate
cardio and haven't found anything that I can do over more than a few
weeks which is regrettable. However I discovered weight training and
even though I'm useless at it I enjoy it and miss it when I don't do
it 2/3 times a week. Is that an option?

Now is the time to get your weight under control. You are in the right
frame of mind - you want to change and your wife is behind you and the
thought of ending up at 50 overweight with diabetes and high blood
pressure as your incentive.

set an initial goal of 200 pounds and see how far you get. But
remember that this is for the long term, you can't give up in 3 months
or you will go straight back to 212 pounds. Persistence is the key.

Good luck

Ray
Stormmee - 29 Jan 2006 14:46 GMT
Welcome, it will work if you work it, I have lost around 90 pounds, it has
taken ages but I am 46, female and not an exerciser either, it does work,
and I NEED the meetings, don't look at all the weight just set a goal of 5
pounds then move on from there, good luck, post often, Lee
> I got the talk from my wife today.  She wants to see me lose some
> weight.  Wants to see me healthier, thinner, with more energy.  Wants
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> :Bazooka-Joe
 
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