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Lá~ká~ Wáná - 22 Jul 2006 22:50 GMT
I was up one pound this morning.  How can this happen when I didn't go over
my points since I started?  I also walked 4.2 miles yesterday in addition to
my regular daily exercise.  I'm post menopausal so it's not hormonal.

LW
Start - 7/5 - 170lbs
Today - 163 lbs
Goal - 130lbs
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Catherine White - 22 Jul 2006 23:42 GMT
It may just be a temporary water gain from so much exercise.
Hugs
Catherine
>I was up one pound this morning.  How can this happen when I didn't go over
>my points since I started?  I also walked 4.2 miles yesterday in addition
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> Goal - 130lbs
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Willow Herself - 23 Jul 2006 00:22 GMT
It's going to happen, sometimes you know exactly why, sometimes you don't,
it's part of the game

Keep on going on..
Will~

>I was up one pound this morning.  How can this happen when I didn't go over
>my points since I started?  I also walked 4.2 miles yesterday in addition
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Goal - 130lbs
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Eddie-Type2 - 23 Jul 2006 01:04 GMT
Hey LW......great that you are able to exercise so much, but please don't
expect a miracle weight loss due to your activity......give it time and the
weight will come off..............your body may be in turmoil right now and
it may be hanging on for dear life and won't let go!!.......severe diets and
exercise can send your metabolism into starvation/survival mode and actually
make it harder for you to lose weight..........so please make sure that you
are eating enough (ALL OF YOUR POINTS including weekly flex points) and
exercise in moderation until your body gets in tune with your new
lifestyle........

Eddie
Weight June05-359.0lbs
Current Weight-291.8lbs
Loss to date=67.2lbs
Goal Weight-180.0lbs

I was up one pound this morning.  How can this happen when I didn't go over
my points since I started?  I also walked 4.2 miles yesterday in addition to
my regular daily exercise.  I'm post menopausal so it's not hormonal.

LW
Start - 7/5 - 170lbs
Today - 163 lbs
Goal - 130lbs
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Lá~ká~ Wáná - 23 Jul 2006 01:34 GMT
> Hey LW......great that you are able to exercise so much, but please don't
> expect a miracle weight loss due to your activity......give it time and
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> exercise in moderation until your body gets in tune with your new
> lifestyle........

Ok, I'm over being upset.  I do eat all my points.  I was just upset and a
bit surprised to see a lb back on when I didn't cheat and I walked so far.
I have to hang in and not get discouraged so easily.

LW
Start - 7/5 - 170lbs
Today - 163 lbs
Goal - 130lbs
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Eddie-Type2 - 23 Jul 2006 01:52 GMT
glad to hear you are eating all of your points.

also very glad to hear that you are not upset anymore :)

hang in there.............1 to 2 lbs per week is healthy........be
patient.......think "healthy lifestyle", not "lose weight quickly"......you
have to be happy in this journey or you will return right back to where you
started and possible even worse......

We're here for you LW......keep you chin up :)

Eddie
Weight June05-359.0lbs
Current Weight-291.8lbs
Loss to date=67.2lbs
Goal Weight-180.0lbs

> Hey LW......great that you are able to exercise so much, but please don't
> expect a miracle weight loss due to your activity......give it time and
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> exercise in moderation until your body gets in tune with your new
> lifestyle........

Ok, I'm over being upset.  I do eat all my points.  I was just upset and a
bit surprised to see a lb back on when I didn't cheat and I walked so far.
I have to hang in and not get discouraged so easily.

LW
Start - 7/5 - 170lbs
Today - 163 lbs
Goal - 130lbs
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Stormmee - 24 Jul 2006 10:50 GMT
exactly the right attitude, Lee

> > Hey LW......great that you are able to exercise so much, but please don't
> > expect a miracle weight loss due to your activity......give it time and
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>  Goal - 130lbs
>  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Gary G - 23 Jul 2006 02:26 GMT
Just because is the only answer...Just take a deep breath and continue on
the journey...If you know you are doing everything right then don't
worry...I'm sure if we followed our weight gains when we didn't care about
losing weight we would have weeks when we ate lots of food and didn't gain
weight...The journey last a lifetime...Follow the program and nothing is
impossible...GG
>I was up one pound this morning.  How can this happen when I didn't go over
>my points since I started?  I also walked 4.2 miles yesterday in addition
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> Goal - 130lbs
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Stormmee - 24 Jul 2006 10:49 GMT
walking that much extra can make your muscles retain water, Lee
> I was up one pound this morning.  How can this happen when I didn't go over
> my points since I started?  I also walked 4.2 miles yesterday in addition to
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Goal - 130lbs
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Lá~ká~ Wáná - 25 Jul 2006 17:10 GMT
> walking that much extra can make your muscles retain water, Lee

I never heard of that before.  What would make them retain water?  Most days
I walk 1 1/2 to 2 miles.  I wish I could find the original WW diet plan from
the 1960s.  I remember how everyone I knew was losing over a pound a week
and none that I recall were exercising like I need to do to lose on WW.  And
no, I do not go over my 26 pts a day.  I have no cravings for certain foods.
There were no points back then and some foods were unlimited and yet they
lost weight without having to walk as I am doing.  Any suggestions were I
may find the original plan?  Has anyone here tried the original plan?  I
would love to give it a try.

LW
Start - 7/5 - 170lbs
Today - 162 lbs
Goal - 130lbs
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Stormmee - 25 Jul 2006 21:08 GMT
when you work your muscles they hold water to repair themselves, you said
walking was extra, and I was originally on WW when you ate fish 5 times a
week, I lost great but prefer the points, I do lose slower but I am NOT
hungry and I will keep it off this time, Lee

> > walking that much extra can make your muscles retain water, Lee
>
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> Goal - 130lbs
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Lá~ká~ Wáná - 25 Jul 2006 23:55 GMT
> when you work your muscles they hold water to repair themselves, you said
> walking was extra, and I was originally on WW when you ate fish 5 times a
> week, I lost great but prefer the points, I do lose slower but I am NOT
> hungry and I will keep it off this time, Lee

Just that one day that I walked over 4 miles.  I seldom walk that far.  I've
been walking 1 1/2 to 2 miles a day for almost a month now.  I myself was
not on WW back then as I weighed no more than 110 lbs in those days.  I just
recall several of the girls on my block and at work who went on WW and HOLY
COW.... did they lose weight!  I don't remember them complaining about being
hungry.

LW
Start - 7/5/06 - 170lbs
Today - 162 lbs
Goal - 130lbs
Height 5'6"
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Stormmee - 26 Jul 2006 00:01 GMT
the difference in that one day of walking would make you retain water, drink
extra water to help your body flush itself out and you will be fine, I was
very active when I was on WW and starved all the time, Lee

> > when you work your muscles they hold water to repair themselves, you said
> > walking was extra, and I was originally on WW when you ate fish 5 times a
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> Height 5'6"
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Lá~ká~ Wáná - 30 Jul 2006 22:58 GMT
> the difference in that one day of walking would make you retain water,
> drink
> extra water to help your body flush itself out and you will be fine, I was
> very active when I was on WW and starved all the time, Lee

What program are you on now?

LW
Start - 7/5/06 - 170lbs
Today - 161 lbs
Goal - 130lbs
Height 5'6"
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Willow Herself - 25 Jul 2006 21:40 GMT
If you work the muscles a lot, sometimes they retain water in the.. huh...
recuperation stage? not sure of the english word for it.

When you work out, the muscle kinda break up, and then in the recuperation
stage (if that's the right expression) they "repair" themselves...

I've found that when I lift weights more than usual, or change my routine
radically I gain a temporary "water gain".

I asked a friend who's a doctor and works with athletes a lot and he
explained ( man that was long and boring) that it's because you're muscles
keep water when they traumatized.. I won't go through the whole explaination
cause 1 I don't remember and 2 I'm not really interested, but that's what it
boils down to.

will~

>> walking that much extra can make your muscles retain water, Lee
>
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> Goal - 130lbs
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Lá~ká~ Wáná - 25 Jul 2006 23:57 GMT
> If you work the muscles a lot, sometimes they retain water in the.. huh...
> recuperation stage? not sure of the english word for it.
>
> When you work out, the muscle kinda break up, and then in the recuperation
> stage (if that's the right expression) they "repair" themselves...

I see. Thanks.

> I've found that when I lift weights more than usual, or change my routine
> radically I gain a temporary "water gain".
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> explaination cause 1 I don't remember and 2 I'm not really interested, but
> that's what it boils down to.

Thanks.........

LW
Start - 7/5/06 - 170lbs
Today - 162 lbs
Goal - 130lbs
Height 5'6"
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lesanne - 26 Jul 2006 10:56 GMT
I am late on this one, but during the time I was losing I was up a pound several times. The first year back on program from 2/16/02 - 2/28/03 I journaled every day, and never had an off-program day. I was into a Doug kind of thing. I went up six times. Several other times I lost 0. The next year I went up 5 more times before getting to goal in August of 2003. Up happens. The downs exceed the ups. This gives you practice for maintenance when you are not going to stay one weight every day of your life. If you learn to put your head down and keep plugging away at your lifestyle change when you gain, you may get to goal and stay there. I am up right now because of a ton of life situations. I will be down again by time to weigh in for August.

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Les
365 (1981)
247 (restart WW in 2002)
167 (this morning)
164 (goal)

 I was up one pound this morning.  How can this happen when I didn't go over
 my points since I started?  I also walked 4.2 miles yesterday in addition to
 my regular daily exercise.  I'm post menopausal so it's not hormonal.

 LW
 Start - 7/5 - 170lbs
 Today - 163 lbs
 Goal - 130lbs
 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Lá~ká~ Wáná - 27 Jul 2006 04:16 GMT
I am late on this one, but during the time I was losing I was up a pound
several times. The first year back on program from 2/16/02 - 2/28/03 I
journaled every day, and never had an off-program day. I was into a Doug
kind of thing. I went up six times. Several other times I lost 0. The next
year I went up 5 more times before getting to goal in August of 2003. Up
happens. The downs exceed the ups. This gives you practice for maintenance
when you are not going to stay one weight every day of your life. If you
learn to put your head down and keep plugging away at your lifestyle change
when you gain, you may get to goal and stay there. I am up right now because
of a ton of life situations. I will be down again by time to weigh in for
August.

Thanks. It looks like I am once again plateaued after only a few weeks back
on the program.  These plateaus happen sooner and sooner now when I restart
the program.  They can last for months.  The frustrating thing is if I eat
more (a few points a day) I immediately start to gain the weight back. If I
cut back on points to lose the weight I get shaky and weak and am told it's
starvation mode.  I can't win for losing.........   now if only the loss was
weight.  :o(   It seems the 26 points is too much food for me.  It's like a
maintenance amount, not a lose weight amount.

I'll keep on going though and try not to get discouraged as I have in the
past.  I walked 2.3 miles today and am on program.

LW
Start - 7/5 - 170lbs
Today - 162 lbs
Goal - 130lbs
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Deb in Northern California - 29 Jul 2006 02:25 GMT
Your signature shows you having a current weight of 162lbs.  If that is the
case, then 26 points is too much.
According to the WW materials, at 162 you should be on 22 points a day, with
the 35 weekly point allowance and then the exercise points you add.  So
maybe you are eating too much in order to lose.  You are eating to maintain
instead.

Debbie

> I am late on this one, but during the time I was losing I was up a pound
> several times. The first year back on program from 2/16/02 - 2/28/03 I
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
> Goal - 130lbs
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Lá~ká~ Wáná - 30 Jul 2006 03:00 GMT
> Your signature shows you having a current weight of 162lbs.  If that is
> the case, then 26 points is too much.
> According to the WW materials, at 162 you should be on 22 points a day,
> with the 35 weekly point allowance and then the exercise points you add.
> So maybe you are eating too much in order to lose.  You are eating to
> maintain instead.

My Success book says 20 to 27 pts a day.  Since I do exercise the leader
told me (when I was making meetings) to stay on the high side since I wasn't
losing much weight - less than a lb a month.  I think you're right.  She
should have told me to drop pts, not stay at the top.  I was getting
conflicting advice there.

These points are annoying.  I wish I could get a rough calorie number to eat
per day.  That would make it so much easier for me.  Using the URL from
another poster, I think, if I understood what he said - to reach 130 lbs it
would be something like 1200c a day. How many points would THAT be?

LW
Start - 7/5/06 - 170lbs
Today - 161 lbs
Goal - 130lbs
Height 5'6"
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Deb in Northern California - 30 Jul 2006 05:24 GMT
1200 calories is approximately 24 points, but if you want to count calories
instead of points, try www.fitday.com it might work better for what you are
looking for than the WW program which you are not liking.

Also, since you are using the older system of a range of points instead of a
set amount and bonus (weekly flex points), then you are about right with 26
points a day.

Using the Flex way it would be 22 points a day, plus 35 points a say spread
throughout the week or used in one day at your discretion or not used at
all.

I still think you are aiming for too low of a weight though for your age and
height, but that is just my opinion.

Debbie

>> Your signature shows you having a current weight of 162lbs.  If that is
>> the case, then 26 points is too much.
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> Height 5'6"
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Lá~ká~ Wáná - 30 Jul 2006 19:08 GMT
> 1200 calories is approximately 24 points, but if you want to count
> calories instead of points, try www.fitday.com it might work better for
> what you are looking for than the WW program which you are not liking.

I'll check out fitday, thanks.  :-)   Most of the food I eat has the
calories already listed and I plan to buy a small digital scale to weigh
food next trip into town (if they have them here).  A friend just returned
two books this morning, "The Calorie Counter" and "The Supermarket Nutrition
Counter" which also lists calories.  They're going to be very helpful this
time around.

> Also, since you are using the older system of a range of points instead of
> a set amount and bonus (weekly flex points), then you are about right with
> 26 points a day.

I'll stick with 24 to 26 and see what happens.

> Using the Flex way it would be 22 points a day, plus 35 points a say
> spread throughout the week or used in one day at your discretion or not
> used at all.

Those 35 pts would be a lot of extra calories.

> I still think you are aiming for too low of a weight though for your age
> and height, but that is just my opinion.
>
> Debbie

Anything over 130 lbs and clothes don't look good on me, especially stretch
jeans and stretch slacks which I prefer to wear.  No matter how many sit-ups
I do I'll have a "belly" at say 135, 140 lbs and over.  In a bathing suit,
dress or skirt I'll look pregnant. My belly is the last place I lose weight.
:0(

LW
Start - 7/5/06 - 170lbs
Today - 161 lbs
Goal - 130lbs
Height 5'6"
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Stormmee - 28 Jul 2006 11:39 GMT
it seems to me that this realistic viewpoint on weight/lifestyle is what helps one to maintain after losing, and it is what keeps me on program, not every day has been on program for me, but every day has been a conscious decision for me, the biggest change that has allowed me to stick with it for so long is that I no longer eat without thinking, when I do decide to eat outside the program I decide in advance and I also know why I made that decision and how long it will last.  Wed. is a perfect example.  I went to a class, I thought they would have pizza at the class, I had decided to use my WPA and eat 3 slices,... at the end of the class they had deli sandwiches instead of pizza, nope didn't eat that, was hyped for pizza, and hungry but refused the deli stuff because I didn't know what mystery meat was on them and the bread didn't smell fresh, DH had a slice and said I missed nothing, so we went to dinner with friends at Ryan's and I stayed on plan, Ryan's has lots of food for core.  Lee
 I am late on this one, but during the time I was losing I was up a pound several times. The first year back on program from 2/16/02 - 2/28/03 I journaled every day, and never had an off-program day. I was into a Doug kind of thing. I went up six times. Several other times I lost 0. The next year I went up 5 more times before getting to goal in August of 2003. Up happens. The downs exceed the ups. This gives you practice for maintenance when you are not going to stay one weight every day of your life. If you learn to put your head down and keep plugging away at your lifestyle change when you gain, you may get to goal and stay there. I am up right now because of a ton of life situations. I will be down again by time to weigh in for August.
 
 --
 Les
 365 (1981)
 247 (restart WW in 2002)
 167 (this morning)
 164 (goal)

 "Lá~ká~ Wáná" <none@no-one.net> wrote in message news:44c29f3f$0$21655$834e42db@reader.greatnowhere.com...
   I was up one pound this morning.  How can this happen when I didn't go over
   my points since I started?  I also walked 4.2 miles yesterday in addition to
   my regular daily exercise.  I'm post menopausal so it's not hormonal.

   LW
   Start - 7/5 - 170lbs
   Today - 163 lbs
   Goal - 130lbs
   ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
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