thank you you said this much better than I could and I wanted to say it, Lee
> LW,
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> Height 5'6"
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> LW,
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> You seem to be obsessed with exercise as the be all and end all of the
> world?
What ever gave you that idea? ;o)
I may be wrong, but I shake my head every time I read some of your
> posts.
Why? Because I walk up to 2 miles a day? I used to walk about that far
with my dog long before I gained this weight at menopause. The dog has
since passed away. I love to walk and feel it's a healthy thing to do, thin
or obese.
> The second thing I notice is that you seem to be really stressing about
> losing weight and cutting back on your points.
Who doesn't want to lose weight - unless they're at goal or never became
overweight. You lost me here. Please don't go into healthy diets as I was
always on a healthy diet compared to what I read here and heard at the
meetings. My problem was age, menopause, genetics, thyroid problems that my
Dr. missed, probably for years and PORTION CONTROL. Even on the healthiest
diet you will gain under these conditions.
It almost seems to me that
> you aren't even going to WW meetings and that you are trying this on your
> own without any support what so ever?
This time around I am not going to the meetings. Sorry, I thought I made
that clear in another post.
If I'm wrong, then I suggest that you
> try talking to your leader. I'm quite positive that no WW leader would
> ever
> tell you to reduce your points or exercise more!
When I attend the meetings that year and was losing barely 1 lb a month I
was told to EAT MORE, to add a few points each day and also to *exercise*
more. I was walking 2 miles three times a week at the time. I immediately
put back on 1/2 the weight I lost (a total of 5 lbs in 6 months). So she
gave me the number of a district office and told me to call them. I did. I
was told I was eating too much, drop a few points and try and *exercise*
more. My husband and I decided this contradictory advice wasn't worth $40 a
month. I'm being honest with you. So after spending $350 for meetings, the
needed books and gas for my car (the meeting was not close-by) I lost a
grand total of 2 1/2 lbs and quit going. I realized I would lose
approximately 5 lbs a year taking her advice at the cost of about $500 we
couldn't afford. That's why I said in another post that if you eat less
points and don't lose (you maintain) they tell you to eat more - when you
gain on the extra points (which makes sense = more food = gain weight) they
tell you to eat less, and exercise was always encouraged. I do agree this
plan will work wonders for some people but there are those of us with
different metabolisms or whatever where the prescribed point-system just
don't work. We have to eat LESS to lose.
> If you are eat ALL of your points (including your 35 weekly FLEX points)
I'm not on FLEX. My daughter tried to explain that to me but I couldn't
understand it. It was too confusing.
> and you ensure that you track (write down) every single thing that goes
> into
> your mouth, and you are weighing your portions, then there is no doubt in
> my
> mind that you will lose weight! no doubt what so ever!
I do that now and am not on FLEX but points. I was told the same thing
about 1-2-3 Success which is what I'm following now.
> The fact that you've stalled for a couple of week and that you are
> starving
> right now and considering lowering your points again, really makes me
> concerned for your well-being.
Except for taking thyroid medication I am in perfect health for a 62 yr old
woman. :o) I believe being active and slender all my life with a good diet
is now paying off. All I need do is dump these last 30 lbs. If it takes
dropping calories (points) to do it what other choice do I have? If I ADD
calories (points) I know I'll gain weight immediately. I take a
multi-vitamin/mineral daily.
> I really hope that you are not obsessing by standing on the scale every
> day?
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> scale in a week and I'm sure you'll feel better and lose maybe a pound or
> 2.
I weight myself several times a week.
> That's another thing...........please don't expect miracles at the scale!
> 1
> to 2 lbs per week is a great average loss and as you become closer to goal
> with only maybe 20 lbs to lose, it will get harder and harder and you may
> only see 1/2 lbs to 1 pound losses each week...
That would be great but when you follow the plan, exercise and lose less
than that; it's time to make a change.
........heck there will even
> be weeks where you will stay the same!!
Only if calories *in* equal calories out. Cut the calories going *in* and
loss will continue.
> I wish you all the luck in the world. I think you are a nice person, but
> you just need to relax a bit and stop stressing yourself out over all of
> this.
To be honest with you I'm tired of relaxing about this and mean business
this time. If I have to cut back to 15 pts a day to lose at least 1 to 2lbs
a week I'll do it. What ever it takes I am willing to do it.
> Sincerest and warmest regards,
I know that Eddie and thanks. Maybe if they get a new instructor where I
live I would consider going to the meetings again, but as long as that same
woman is there it's pointless (no pun intended). :o) And Eddie, she
stressed exercise constantly, especially walking.
Oh, and in those months I never met anyone there who *ate more* and lost
weight.
LW
Start - 7/5/06 - 170lbs
Today - 161 lbs
Goal - 130lbs
Height 5'6"
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Tayra - 28 Jul 2006 21:39 GMT
> Oh, and in those months I never met anyone there who *ate more* and lost
> weight.
Hi. Glad to meet you. I'm Tayra. I lose more weight eating 37
points/day than I did eating 33 points/day (which is what the WW Flex
plan recommends for my weight). And I get 0 exercise. Haven't
exercised since I joined WW a year and a half ago, and I've lost 85lbs.
Never met a leader who told me I had to, either.
-Tay
Lá~ká~ Wáná - 29 Jul 2006 04:55 GMT
>> Oh, and in those months I never met anyone there who *ate more* and lost
>> weight.
>
> Hi. Glad to meet you. I'm Tayra. I lose more weight eating 37
> points/day than I did eating 33 points/day (which is what the WW Flex plan
> recommends for my weight). And I get 0 exercise.
Hi! Glad to meet you as well. :o) I couldn't understand the Flex program
so am using the easy one 1-2-3 Success. The more you have to lose the the
faster it goes, it seems. I already lost around 50lbs on low-carb. But
then that stopped working right before the accident that broke my knee. My
NP suggested I go back on the WW program and sees what happens since I still
have about 30 lbs to go.
Haven't
> exercised since I joined WW a year and a half ago, and I've lost 85lbs.
> Never met a leader who told me I had to, either.
No one told us we *had* to exercise. They did encourage us to exercise both
to help with weight loss and for general health since it's good for us. I
had no problem with that. I don't mind walking and that's what she
recommended.
LW
Start - 7/5/06 - 170lbs
Today - 161 lbs
Goal - 130lbs
Height 5'6"
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