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Debbie - 18 Sep 2006 20:59 GMT
Will they give you an activity point thingie the first week you join if you
ask for it?

Debbie<---willing to pay $11 for it but not $33 (three weeks of meetings).
Stormmee - 18 Sep 2006 21:13 GMT
if I were you the first 12 weeks would be a must, good luck, Lee
> Will they give you an activity point thingie the first week you join if you
> ask for it?
>
> Debbie<---willing to pay $11 for it but not $33 (three weeks of meetings).
ahmward - 18 Sep 2006 21:42 GMT
> Will they give you an activity point thingie the first week you join
> if you ask for it?
>
> Debbie<---willing to pay $11 for it but not $33 (three weeks of
> meetings).
Meetings are $12 now.
Eddie-Type2 - 18 Sep 2006 22:43 GMT
Meetings in my area are $16 CDN.

I buy 6 month memberships and that knocks it down a bit to $13 I
think.......

I don't think you get your activity point calculator until Week 3

Eddie
Weight June05-359.0lbs
Current Weight-284.6lbs
Loss to date=74.4lbs
Goal Weight-180.0lbs

> Will they give you an activity point thingie the first week you join
> if you ask for it?
>
> Debbie<---willing to pay $11 for it but not $33 (three weeks of
> meetings).
Meetings are $12 now.
Willow Herself - 18 Sep 2006 22:41 GMT
They aren't supposed to.. since we know that people are trying to do exactly
what you're trying to do.. come once, get the whole thing, then bail out.
Will~

> Will they give you an activity point thingie the first week you join if
> you ask for it?
>
> Debbie<---willing to pay $11 for it but not $33 (three weeks of meetings).
Debbie - 20 Sep 2006 02:06 GMT
> They aren't supposed to.. since we know that people are trying to do
> exactly what you're trying to do.. come once, get the whole thing, then
> bail out.
> Will~

If I can lose it on my own counting calories why should I pay to go to
meetings?  To line WW pockets? Their stuff is not free. I've paid good money
for their products and I subscribe to WW magazine, so I'm not bailing out of
anything. But to pay $33 for a slider on activity points is ridiculous.

Debbie

Debbie
ahmward - 20 Sep 2006 03:38 GMT
>> They aren't supposed to.. since we know that people are trying to do
>> exactly what you're trying to do.. come once, get the whole thing,
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>
> Debbie
Since you can do it on your own, you can research how to calculate
activity points too.  Here's a start  http://tinyurl.com/fzxou
Best of luck.

Audrey
Debbie - 20 Sep 2006 11:51 GMT
> Since you can do it on your own, you can research how to calculate
> activity points too.  Here's a start  http://tinyurl.com/fzxou
> Best of luck.
>
> Audrey

Thanks Audrey. You'll never believe this, I already had that link and even
wrote it down. Geesh! I could've avoided all this.

Debbie
Stormmee - 20 Sep 2006 08:31 GMT
if you are counting calories you aren't doing WW and don't need the slider,
Lee, thinking a website with calories for exercise might help you more
> > They aren't supposed to.. since we know that people are trying to do
> > exactly what you're trying to do.. come once, get the whole thing, then
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>
> Debbie
Debbie - 20 Sep 2006 11:56 GMT
> if you are counting calories you aren't doing WW and don't need the
> slider,
> Lee, thinking a website with calories for exercise might

Probably true Lee. I don't really need it that bad since I don't count APs
anyway (was just trying to be a participant in here and ask a question).
I've lost weight on diets before that were not WW. Calories in vs Calories
expended. WW does not have the copyright to that.

Debbie
Stormmee - 20 Sep 2006 12:02 GMT
very true and if I could have done it on the dozen others I tried I would
have stuck there, this is one of those deals where you have to find what
works for you, for some that is WW for others it is calories, and for others
it is a strict NO list, I am always happy for more participants, Lee, hoping
you do lose on whatever plan you choose

> > if you are counting calories you aren't doing WW and don't need the
> > slider,
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>
> Debbie
Debbie - 20 Sep 2006 13:43 GMT
"Stormmee" <
> very true and if I could have done it on the dozen others I tried I would
> have stuck there, this is one of those deals where you have to find what
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> hoping
> you do lose on whatever plan you choose

Thank you, Lee. I have been lurking and participating in this ng for years
(back when SusieQ was here) and I've never been made to feel like I was
doing something deceitful or immoral until yesterday. I love this group and
try to give whatever hints I can when I have them.

I've also bought every book on diets and cooking low-fat known to man, I
believe, so I try to gather from all the resources I can.  There's more than
one way to skin a chicken (pun intended).

Debbie<happy now. LOL
Stormmee - 20 Sep 2006 13:58 GMT
OH I never thought you were deceitful or immoral I am just the practical
sort, you know, I want that so I do this to get it, I sure miss SQ Lee glad
you feel better

> "Stormmee" <
> > very true and if I could have done it on the dozen others I tried I would
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>
> Debbie<happy now. LOL
Debbie - 20 Sep 2006 14:41 GMT
"Stormmee"

> OH I never thought you were deceitful or immoral

Truly sorry about that, Lee. I didn't mean you did that at all. You've only
been supportive to me since I've been in here. Sorry, dear.

I am just the practical
> sort, you know, I want that so I do this to get it, I sure miss SQ Lee
> glad

I think about her from time to time. Wonder if she's still at goal? Does she
ever come in here anymore?

Debbie
Stormmee - 20 Sep 2006 15:23 GMT
hasn't been here for years, she quit coming in when she started being a
receptionist for WW that is the last I remember, Lee

> "Stormmee"
>
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>
> Debbie
Willow Herself - 22 Sep 2006 22:31 GMT
If you want to lose by counting calories rather than followed the WW
program, what do you need the slider for?

WW is a business, as in, there to make money..  it's not a charity
organisation. If you want to lose weight on your own, go right ahead.. all
you have to do is eat less calories than you burn..

But if you want to follow the WW program, using the WW tools.. than.. yeah..
it cost money.. it's a business.. which is why the staff won't give you the
stuff for free..
Will~

>> They aren't supposed to.. since we know that people are trying to do
>> exactly what you're trying to do.. come once, get the whole thing, then
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> Debbie
Debbie - 22 Sep 2006 23:57 GMT
I didn't ask for it for free. Read my post again.

Debbie

> If you want to lose by counting calories rather than followed the WW
> program, what do you need the slider for?
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>>
>> Debbie
Debbie - 23 Sep 2006 00:08 GMT
Besides I don't need you to tell me what to do or how to lose weight. Last I
heard Willow does not run usenet. You might be a leader, but that's all you
are. Stay out of my business!

Debbie

> If you want to lose by counting calories rather than followed the WW
> program, what do you need the slider for?
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>>
>> Debbie
Goomba38 - 23 Sep 2006 13:41 GMT
> Besides I don't need you to tell me what to do or how to lose weight. Last I
> heard Willow does not run usenet. You might be a leader, but that's all you
> are. Stay out of my business!
>
> Debbie

Jeeeesus.. if you're gonna take the time to flame someone, at least use
USENET "netiquette" to NOT top post it, and to tell you it's rude to not
trim up the extraneous quotes that are unnecessary for you to get your
point across.  Top posting is a PITA and people in other countries often
pay for their Internet (and downloading) by the minute, so big downloads
can cost them more money. It is thoughtless.
Thanks for letting me tell you how to run your business.
Goomba
Debbie - 23 Sep 2006 14:01 GMT
No wonder nobody posts in here anymore. Thanks!

Debbie

>> Besides I don't need you to tell me what to do or how to lose weight.
>> Last I heard Willow does not run usenet. You might be a leader, but
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> Thanks for letting me tell you how to run your business.
> Goomba
Debbie - 23 Sep 2006 14:15 GMT
Between Willow's self-righteous rant and Goomba's *need* to control usenet,
this place just sucks. Coupla angry overweight people, I guess. see you all
later -- much later. Nice to meet some of you. LOL

Debbie

> Jeeeesus.. if you're gonna take the time to flame someone, at least use
> USENET "netiquette" to NOT top post it, and to tell you it's rude to not
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Thanks for letting me tell you how to run your business.
> Goomba
ahmward - 23 Sep 2006 23:08 GMT
> Between Willow's self-righteous rant and Goomba's *need* to control
> usenet, this place just sucks. Coupla angry overweight people, I
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>> Thanks for letting me tell you how to run your business.
>> Goomba

In defense of this group, there are so many supportive people here.
There is a sharing of new food ideas, meals and recipes, exercise
techniques, how to get through difficult situations and all sorts of
things that are supportive. Willow's post was honest not self-righteous
and as far as the top posting, I do it as a courtesy for Lee since it is
easier for her to read the posts.

Audrey
Goomba38 - 23 Sep 2006 23:14 GMT
> In defense of this group, there are so many supportive people here.
> There is a sharing of new food ideas, meals and recipes, exercise
> techniques, how to get through difficult situations and all sorts of
> things that are supportive. Willow's post was honest not self-righteous
> and as far as the top posting, I do it as a courtesy for Lee since it is
> easier for her to read the posts.

Absolutely there are! Of course Debbie initiated the criticism yet
didn't like being criticized herself. Who is Lee, by the way? And how
does top posting help her? I'm confused?

Top posting for the most part is annoying to many (many groups on USENET
discourage it for that reason) as most of us are used to reading as we
would a book.  Top posting is like getting the answer before you know
the question. It also is hard to dissect the reply when it all is
crammed into the attributes. If people were more judicious about
trimming up the unnecessary quoted material before they reply to the
pertinent bits, it would be much easier to follow.
Gary G - 24 Sep 2006 00:12 GMT
Seems your more concerned about form than substance...GG

>> In defense of this group, there are so many supportive people here. There
>> is a sharing of new food ideas, meals and recipes, exercise techniques,
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> unnecessary quoted material before they reply to the pertinent bits, it
> would be much easier to follow.
Stormmee - 24 Sep 2006 08:28 GMT
I am lee, I use a screen reader and it is terribly easier for me to read if
others top post... this group being the great group it is, without me
asking, and discerning from some of my wining from time to time about
computer problems I have mentioned that top posting is easier, many of the
people in here just started doing it, sorry if that bothers you, Lee

> > In defense of this group, there are so many supportive people here.
> > There is a sharing of new food ideas, meals and recipes, exercise
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> trimming up the unnecessary quoted material before they reply to the
> pertinent bits, it would be much easier to follow.
Willow Herself - 28 Sep 2006 04:58 GMT
Happy to help M'lady..

I top post/bottom post depending on what's going on.. who I'm talking to..
if I'm in a discussion or just joking around..

Will~

>I am lee, I use a screen reader and it is terribly easier for me to read if
> others top post... this group being the great group it is, without me
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
>> trimming up the unnecessary quoted material before they reply to the
>> pertinent bits, it would be much easier to follow.
Stormmee - 28 Sep 2006 07:21 GMT
thanks, Lee
> Happy to help M'lady..
>
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> >> trimming up the unnecessary quoted material before they reply to the
> >> pertinent bits, it would be much easier to follow.
Uncle Bonzi - 29 Sep 2006 15:09 GMT
> Happy to help M'lady..
>
> I top post/bottom post depending on what's going on.. who I'm talking to..
> if I'm in a discussion or just joking around..
>
> Will~

I will too.

I am confused though, what has got to do with weight loss?

- Ralph
Uncle Bonzi - 29 Sep 2006 15:12 GMT
> Happy to help M'lady..
>
> I top post/bottom post depending on what's going on.. who I'm talking to..
> if I'm in a discussion or just joking around..
>
> Will~

I will too.

I am confused though, what has this all got to do with weight loss?

I remember now...Activity Points.
Let's see:

Flying off the handle
Jumping to conclusions

Are these light, moderate or extreme?

- Ralph
Stormmee - 01 Oct 2006 19:08 GMT
depends on how much you exert yourself doing them, for some it seems that
they can only be counted at light as the ease at which they are done seems
to be routine and second nature, for others extreme as they rarely occur,
Lee, vow

> > Happy to help M'lady..
> >
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>
> - Ralph
Deb in Northern California - 07 Oct 2006 18:22 GMT
Personally I prefer top posting, as I don't have to scroll through the whole
message to see what someone is replying to.

If you are reading the thread you should have read the previous message and
then see what others are replying back to.

>> In defense of this group, there are so many supportive people here. There
>> is a sharing of new food ideas, meals and recipes, exercise techniques,
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> unnecessary quoted material before they reply to the pertinent bits, it
> would be much easier to follow.
Stormmee - 24 Sep 2006 08:25 GMT
which I truly appreciate but if it bothers that many people I can deal,
again thank you for being so naturally considerate, Lee, glad for all the
different kinds of support in here

> > Between Willow's self-righteous rant and Goomba's *need* to control
> > usenet, this place just sucks. Coupla angry overweight people, I
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>
> Audrey
Willow Herself - 28 Sep 2006 04:55 GMT
I'm 135 lbs.. nowhere near "angry overweight anything"

Cya
Will

> Between Willow's self-righteous rant and Goomba's *need* to control
> usenet, this place just sucks. Coupla angry overweight people, I guess.
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>> Thanks for letting me tell you how to run your business.
>> Goomba
-L. - 01 Oct 2006 09:48 GMT
> Between Willow's self-righteous rant and Goomba's *need* to control usenet,
> this place just sucks. Coupla angry overweight people, I guess. see you all
> later -- much later. Nice to meet some of you. LOL
>
> Debbie

Don't let the door hit you in the a.s on the way out!

-L.
(God, who let the bitches in...?)
pat - 25 Sep 2006 11:52 GMT
I've been posting to USENET for more than 10 years.  As you can see, I top
posted here..  Its a PITA to scroll to the bottom of a long post to see
what's been written.. not to mention, the large # of peps who are now
reading groups @ Google.  Its a PITA to read with Google.. and annoying as
all h*ll to have to click a link to 'read' more of the post to see the new
bits because they've been bottom posted.

> Jeeeesus.. if you're gonna take the time to flame someone, at least
> use USENET "netiquette" to NOT top post it, and to tell you it's rude
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Thanks for letting me tell you how to run your business.
> Goomba
Goomba38 - 25 Sep 2006 16:33 GMT
> I've been posting to USENET for more than 10 years.  As you can see, I top
> posted here..  Its a PITA to scroll to the bottom of a long post to see
> what's been written.. not to mention, the large # of peps who are now
> reading groups @ Google.  Its a PITA to read with Google.. and annoying as
> all h*ll to have to click a link to 'read' more of the post to see the new
> bits because they've been bottom posted.

that is why considerate folks trim their quotes up before hitting that
send button. Cuts out all the unnecessary dreck.
Nunya B. - 25 Sep 2006 23:57 GMT
>> I've been posting to USENET for more than 10 years.  As you can see, I
>> top posted here..  Its a PITA to scroll to the bottom of a long post to
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> that is why considerate folks trim their quotes up before hitting that
> send button. Cuts out all the unnecessary dreck.

And most considerate folks give up the netcop routine once they've
discovered the *group* preferences.
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Willow Herself - 28 Sep 2006 04:57 GMT
LOL Now who's trying to rule who? If you don't want to read my post just
don't,,

It's a free world shweety,,,
Will~

> Besides I don't need you to tell me what to do or how to lose weight. Last
> I heard Willow does not run usenet. You might be a leader, but that's all
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
>>>
>>> Debbie
Uncle Bonzi - 19 Sep 2006 20:13 GMT
> Will they give you an activity point thingie the first week you join if you
> ask for it?
>
> Debbie<---willing to pay $11 for it but not $33 (three weeks of meetings).

I would sell you mine, but since its never been used.  I doubt it
works.....

Hey I only want .... aw I ran out of fingers and toes.

Before you all yell at me, I was only trying to raise money to pay for
my meetings.

- Ralph
debbiesame@gmail.com - 20 Sep 2006 00:57 GMT
> Will they give you an activity point thingie the first week you join if you
> ask for it?

<---willing to pay $11 for it but not $33 (three weeks of meetings).

hi debbie i been going to weight watchers i missed two week and when i
go back they charge mw 22 dollars so i quiet i been doing fine on my
own love debbie
Debbie - 20 Sep 2006 02:40 GMT
>> Will they give you an activity point thingie the first week you join if
>> you
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> go back they charge mw 22 dollars so i quiet i been doing fine on my
> own love debbie

I found the first meeting I went to to be pretty boring and not very
informational. Granted I know it's just one meeting, but....at $11 a pop, I
expect to come away with something I can use.

Debbie
P.S. Love your name. LOL

Debbie
Gary G - 20 Sep 2006 05:07 GMT
What exactly did you expect?...Meetings become boring when people don't
participate...If I could have done this on my own I would have since I
couldn't I joined...Why did you join?...Maybe your expectation level was
unrealistic...It seems you just really didn't give it a chance...GG
>>> Will they give you an activity point thingie the first week you join if
>>> you
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>
> Debbie
Stormmee - 20 Sep 2006 08:29 GMT
what he said, and the written materials from the first 12 weeks are well
worth the money in my book, Lee, blessed with a great leader
> What exactly did you expect?...Meetings become boring when people don't
> participate...If I could have done this on my own I would have since I
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> >
> > Debbie
Debbie - 20 Sep 2006 12:14 GMT
> What exactly did you expect?...Meetings become boring when people don't
> participate...If I could have done this on my own I would have since I
> couldn't I joined...Why did you join?...Maybe your expectation level was
> unrealistic...It seems you just really didn't give it a chance...GG

Sorry about earlier post Gary. Got a little defensive since I felt like I
was getting ganged up on. I am gonna join after I lose about 40 pounds
(which I know I can do cause I've done it several times before with and
without WW). I want it to stay off this time so I will join on down the
line. I just don't want to pay for what I already know how to do. The last
20-30 is what I will need help with.

I expected a little bit of liveliness at the meeting and more participation
actually, a few helpful hints or a recipe or two. I expected people to laugh
a little and have fun. The friend I went with slept thru the whole thing.

I thought of going to the other meeting that's close by but was told that
that leader posts people's progress in her church bulletin, so she's out of
the picture as a leader for me.

Debbie
Stormmee - 20 Sep 2006 13:07 GMT
what you expected is what I get at my meeting, I hope Willow reads your post
I don't think she is allowed to make your progress public, and I hope if she
does someone reports her, Lee, waiting for willow to comment on this hideous
behavior

> > What exactly did you expect?...Meetings become boring when people don't
> > participate...If I could have done this on my own I would have since I
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>
> Debbie
Gary G - 20 Sep 2006 05:00 GMT
Were you not aware of how WW worked?...GG

>> Will they give you an activity point thingie the first week you join if
>> you
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> go back they charge mw 22 dollars so i quiet i been doing fine on my
> own love debbie
Debbie - 20 Sep 2006 11:54 GMT
"Gary G" > Were you not aware of how WW worked?...GG
> <debbiesame@gmail.com> wrote in message
Oh I see. You don't pay $11 a week for meetings and you get bashed in here.
Never mind that I pay for their materials, food, and magazine. It's just
that you all expect me to go to meetings every week, too. I see. Thanks for
all the help.

Debbie
Stormmee - 20 Sep 2006 11:59 GMT
not at all, its just that if you want what they have to offer you have to
pay for it, if you can do it on your own you are better than me for sure,
Lee

> "Gary G" > Were you not aware of how WW worked?...GG
> > <debbiesame@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> Debbie
Debbie - 20 Sep 2006 13:51 GMT
> not at all, its just that if you want what they have to offer you have to
> pay for it, if you can do it on your own you are better than me for sure,
> Lee

Not better, Lee, that's for sure. It's just been a lifelong battle for me
and I've been gathering info for about 35 years. LOL. I know my body
responds well to exercise and cutting out junk food. But since I am getting
older, it may be harder this go around. I will see if I can do it on my own
and if I can't, I will join. Lost 3.5 pounds this week and hubby is keeping
me accountable and buying my food stuff and walking with me. He's a great
help to me. This go around I don't just want to lose, I want to be healthy.
When your knees start hurting, it's time to start thinking about health
instead of looks! LOL

Thanks for the encouragement, Lee.

Debbie
Stormmee - 20 Sep 2006 14:00 GMT
that is a great loss, I have also been battling weight almost my entire
life, I had a knee injury that pushed the health over looks for me, stay and
let us know how it goes, my DH is one of my biggest helps in this journey,
Lee

> > not at all, its just that if you want what they have to offer you have to
> > pay for it, if you can do it on your own you are better than me for sure,
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>
> Debbie
Gary G - 20 Sep 2006 14:57 GMT
I don't expect you to do anything...I made a comment based on your
comment...GG

> "Gary G" > Were you not aware of how WW worked?...GG
>> <debbiesame@gmail.com> wrote in message
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Debbie
 
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