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Weight Loss Forum / WeightWatchers / December 2006salads at restaurants
why, in the name of common sense, have restaurants ALL started bumping a handfull of grated cheese on top of perfectly good salads? Last time I checked, cheese was NOT a crispy fresh veggie. Aside from that, I'm starting to carry around my own salad dressing. I'm putting oil, vinegar and "Jane's Krazy mixed-up salt" in a little Tupperware "midget." Half the time the restaurants forget I asked for my dressing "on the side" and their idea of vinaigrette seems to involve a lot of sugar. Any other suggestions? I'm not on WWers...I do something called "DASH" which is to control hypertension but, the guidelines pretty much match wwers and this is the only diet newsgroup I've found where there aren't a lot of fad ideas being discussed. I've noticed the same thing. That and fried chicken. I like your idea of taking the midgets full of DIY dressing. What's your recipe? We love the Jane's salt. > why, in the name of common sense, have restaurants ALL started bumping a > handfull of grated cheese on top of perfectly good salads? Last time I [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > only diet newsgroup I've found where there aren't a lot of fad ideas being > discussed. Lordy, do those "bowls" they advertise from KFC actually KILL your appetite, or what? No recipe, just oil and vinaigre and a little container of "Jane's." This is in the spice row at your supermarket if somebody is reading this who doesn't know about it. It's a mix of seasalt, coarse pepper and some other herbs they don't name, but I think there is some garlic salt in there. I "oil," then "vinaigre," then sprinkle on a little "Jane." > I've noticed the same thing. That and fried chicken. > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >> the only diet newsgroup I've found where there aren't a lot of fad >> ideas being discussed. Yes, those KFC commercials turn my stomach. KFC turns my stomach these days! I was returning from visting my mother at the hospital one day this summer. It was past dinner and i was hungry. I stopped at a KFC/AMW restaurant on my way home hoping that they still had their grilled chicken. I walked in and {fortunatel} could not find anything on the menu worth spending the money for. I went home and had cereal. So much healthier. > Lordy, do those "bowls" they advertise from KFC actually KILL your > appetite, or what? [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] >>> only diet newsgroup I've found where there aren't a lot of fad ideas >>> being discussed. It's interesting how one's tastes change. We had our annual parish meeting today with the usual potluck goodies. I went over to the dessert table and was not particularly attracted to anything except the cookies. I had a couple of those and was perfectly happy to skip the pecan pie, chocolate mousse etc. I found it equally easy to skip the richer casseroles etc and stuck to the fruit salads and other veggies that were not cooked with a lot of salt and fat. I recently got braces off my teeth and am enjoying being able to dig into a big, crunchy salad again after over two years. I might turn green any day now! (-; I missed those SO much. (Maybe that's why I am on a tear about this cheese thing!) It's one of those really difficult things to eat when you have braces since so much gets caught in them. that and popcorn. I treated myself to a popcorn popper so I don't have to eat the stuff in the microwave bags with the accompanying salt and chemical load! Man, I missed popcorn! I ate it a couple of times, anyway, but it was so much trouble afterwards. > Yes, those KFC commercials turn my stomach. KFC turns my stomach these > days! I was returning from visting my mother at the hospital one day [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >> >>> I've noticed the same thing. That and fried chicken. good progress on lifestyle, I recently ordered a cob salad and said, everything but the greens on the side. They only had to make it twice... everything includes the bacon bit fella, Lee > It's interesting how one's tastes change. We had our annual parish > meeting today with the usual potluck goodies. I went over to the [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > >> > >>> I've noticed the same thing. That and fried chicken. You really have to watch these folks like a HAWK. THere is ONE restaurant in town where they don't fall apart when I tweak my order...they will do me a plain broiled burger patty (they use pretty lean meat), leave the cheese off the salad and their sides include a nice, FRESH fruit cup, (no "stuff" dumped on it) so it's a great option. NOw, if only they would ban the smoking!!!! (sigh! Fortunately, not too many people smoke now, so, most days, it's at a barely-noticeable level.) > good progress on lifestyle, I recently ordered a cob salad and said, > everything but the greens on the side. They only had to make it twice... [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] >>>> >>>>>I've noticed the same thing. That and fried chicken. I think smoking or not is up to the restaurant owner and those of us who have a preference should vote with our dollars, I won't eat in a restaurant where its all non smoking unless there is no other option, Lee > You really have to watch these folks like a HAWK. THere is ONE > restaurant in town where they don't fall apart when I tweak my [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > >>>> > >>>>>I've noticed the same thing. That and fried chicken. Many states are moving towards total non smoking in any public building or at least requiring separate rooms for smokers in restuarants. NJ passed the complete no smoking rule did last year. The only exception are the casinos in Atlantic City. But no smoking is allowed in restaurants, office buildings, stores and hospitals. Yeah! they did try and pass a law that prohibited smoking within some distance of all buildings to eliminate the need to walk through smoke when entering a building. That never got anywhere but most people are glad the regular passed. >I think smoking or not is up to the restaurant owner and those of us who > have a preference should vote with our dollars, I won't eat in a [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] >> >>>> >> >>>>>I've noticed the same thing. That and fried chicken. this is a YMMV, I see both sides but as long as I do smoke, I will patronize places that cater to me, I no longer eat in Springfield proper unless we are in an extreme hurry and getting drive through, otherwise I go the four miles south and patronize the same chain/or independent where I can/ that allows it, but if you are a non smoker, I totally encourage you to keep your dollars away from any establishment that does allow smoking, Lee > Many states are moving towards total non smoking in any public building or > at least requiring separate rooms for smokers in restuarants. NJ passed the [quoted text clipped - 60 lines] > >> >>>> > >> >>>>>I've noticed the same thing. That and fried chicken. I wouldn't eat in any restaurant that allows smoking...All studies show that second hand smoke is dangerous...I don't care what someone does to themselves but why should I be at risk...In addition why should employees be forced to be around smoke...Smoking in public is going fast...Although some remain opposed it's a losing battle...GG >I think smoking or not is up to the restaurant owner and those of us who > have a preference should vote with our dollars, I won't eat in a [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] >> >>>> >> >>>>>I've noticed the same thing. That and fried chicken. I am not going to argue the merits of smoking, it is a killer plain and simple and I am an addict. the restaurant owner still has the right to allow it and if the employee wants the money then they will work in it. if you are smart enough to not smoke, good for you, if you don't want the money or have employment elsewhere even better. Lee > I wouldn't eat in any restaurant that allows smoking...All studies show that > second hand smoke is dangerous...I don't care what someone does to [quoted text clipped - 56 lines] > >> >>>> > >> >>>>>I've noticed the same thing. That and fried chicken. You would be put off in California then, as all restaurants are smoke-free environments, along with all business establishments too. I think the only place you can smoke inside is your home and I think they allow it in the Indian Casinos. Even the bars are smoke-free, unless you are in a smoking lounge/cigar bar. Everyone has to go out side to smoke. Debbie >I think smoking or not is up to the restaurant owner and those of us who > have a preference should vote with our dollars, I won't eat in a [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] >> >>>> >> >>>>>I've noticed the same thing. That and fried chicken. That's the new rules here in NJ. Casinos are the only exception but I have heard that they are looking to modify that part of the rule. > You would be put off in California then, as all restaurants are smoke-free > environments, along with all business establishments too. I think the [quoted text clipped - 64 lines] >>> >>>> >>> >>>>>I've noticed the same thing. That and fried chicken. I was put off, and would either go to a casino or not eat out, the point is that anyone with any sense knows its harmful, but that is a separate issue from over controlling a legal substance, and overcontrolling a business. If we really wanted to get rid of the health hazards and not be hypocrites as a society we would outlaw it and give smokers the same consideration that heroine addicts now get. We would also quit taking tobacco tax money it is after all tainted like drug money given to the church as it is killing people who pay the tax, Lee > You would be put off in California then, as all restaurants are smoke-free > environments, along with all business establishments too. I think the only [quoted text clipped - 59 lines] > >> >>>> > >> >>>>>I've noticed the same thing. That and fried chicken. There is a city call Belmont in the San Francisco Bay area that is proposing a smoking ban in the entire city. Even in your are or on the street. If you live in an apartment or multiple home dwelling you would be banned from smoking in your home. The only place you would be able to smoke within the city limits would be in a single family home. You could not even smoke in your own backyard with this ban. Even as a non smoker I think they are taking things too far with this one. Debbie Here is the article if you are interested in reading it. http://www.smdailyjournal.com/article_preview.php?id=66988 >I was put off, and would either go to a casino or not eat out, the point is > that anyone with any sense knows its harmful, but that is a separate issue [quoted text clipped - 91 lines] >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>>>I've noticed the same thing. That and fried chicken. Wow, that does sound extreme. > There is a city call Belmont in the San Francisco Bay area that is > proposing a smoking ban in the entire city. Even in your are or on the [quoted text clipped - 111 lines] >>> >> >>>> >>> >> >>>>>I've noticed the same thing. That and fried chicken. It isn't extreme if it will save the lives of future generations. > Wow, that does sound extreme. > [quoted text clipped - 136 lines] >>>> >> >>>> >>>> >> >>>>>I've noticed the same thing. That and fried chicken. are we saving lives or only controlling people, wouldn't you think if they were really interested in saving lives they would make them illegal, and what is the point of saving that life if every behavior is going to be monitored and controlled... and to bring us back to topic... look at the trans fat ban in new York city. what if the big brother police decided your favorite food was no longer healthy and removed it? its just too scary. Lee > It isn't extreme if it will save the lives of future generations. > [quoted text clipped - 138 lines] > >>>> >> >>>> > >>>> >> >>>>>I've noticed the same thing. That and fried chicken. I personally think the trans fat ban is great. If my favorite food was unhealthy, I would live longer without it. Back to the topic, I wish restaurants would know more about 0 point vegetables and make salads appealing without the additonal calories. If I can do that at home, they should be able to as well. Audrey > are we saving lives or only controlling people, wouldn't you think if > they [quoted text clipped - 185 lines] >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>>I've noticed the same thing. That and fried chicken. the real topic here is choice, you are correct if you can do it at home a restaurant can do it but will it sell. being in this industry I can tell you for the most part it seems to be the consensus that it doesn't. Education of the public does so much more than bans and restrictions.. I do eat at soup plantation/sweet tomatoes and they are non smoking because the health of the food makes it worth my while to go out if I want a smoke. This chain however is in the minority... The only other place we seem to get decent vegetables is Chinese buffets with a Mongolian grill, then you give cooking instructions. This one of the best concepts ever for a weight watcher to use when eating out, Lee > I personally think the trans fat ban is great. If my favorite food was > unhealthy, I would live longer without it. [quoted text clipped - 193 lines] > >> >>>> >> >>>> > >> >>>> >> >>>>>I've noticed the same thing. That and fried chicken. Do you have Whole Foods Markets? They have the most amazing salad bar with perhaps twenty 0-1 point vegetables. There are lots of higher point things too. They shave celery paper thin. There are shredded carrots, jicama, and butternut squash, mushrooms, spinach, romaine, mixed baby greens, thin green beans, radishes, tofu, green peas, corn, unmarianted baby artichokes, baby corn, crumbled hard boiled egg, chick peas, tomatoes, edaname etc. There are the higher calorie nuts, seeds, cheese, marinated beans and veggies too. I think the more studies there are on obesity, the greater chance we all have for restaurants to serve healthier foods. Audrey > the real topic here is choice, you are correct if you can do it at > home a [quoted text clipped - 252 lines] >> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>>I've noticed the same thing. That and fried chicken. we don't have one close, but I thought it was a grocery store, so this means you buy it by the weight? Lee > Do you have Whole Foods Markets? They have the most amazing salad bar > with perhaps twenty 0-1 point vegetables. There are lots of higher [quoted text clipped - 266 lines] > >> >> >>>> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> >> >>>>>I've noticed the same thing. That and fried chicken. Yes, it is a grocery store with the most amazing food section. There are lots of take home entrees. I think the salad is $6.99 or $7.99 a pound but so worth it for the freshness and variety. Audrey > we don't have one close, but I thought it was a grocery store, so this > means [quoted text clipped - 318 lines] >> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>>I've noticed the same thing. That and fried >> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>>chicken. I will look at this if I ever get near one, Lee > Yes, it is a grocery store with the most amazing food section. There are > lots of take home entrees. I think the salad is $6.99 or $7.99 a pound [quoted text clipped - 322 lines] > >> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>>I've noticed the same thing. That and fried > >> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>>chicken. Yes, it is a super market. Similar to Trader Joes but more expensive. It is a salad bar where you pay by the pound. I love salad bars at the supermarket. Our shoprite has a good one but the salads are way too large for one person. I wish they had a smaller container available. I usually stop at ours once a week on my way home from the pool to grab a salad for lunch and pick up odds and end groceries. > we don't have one close, but I thought it was a grocery store, so this > means [quoted text clipped - 269 lines] >> >> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>>I've noticed the same thing. That and fried chicken. I am definitely going to check this out, Lee > Yes, it is a super market. Similar to Trader Joes but more expensive. It is > a salad bar where you pay by the pound. [quoted text clipped - 277 lines] > >> >> >> >>>> >> >>>> > >> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>>I've noticed the same thing. That and fried chicken. At Whole Foods they have different sized containers. It is my absolute favorite lunch away from home. Audrey >I am definitely going to check this out, Lee >> Yes, it is a super market. Similar to Trader Joes but more expensive. [quoted text clipped - 373 lines] >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>>I've noticed the same thing. That and fried >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>>chicken. am really interested now, Lee > At Whole Foods they have different sized containers. It is my absolute > favorite lunch away from home. [quoted text clipped - 106 lines] > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> "Laura" <invalid@sample.invalid> wrote in message news:Coohh.516745$QZ1.3203@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... > >> >> >> >> > Wow, that does sound extreme. > >> >> >> >> > [quoted text clipped - 268 lines] > >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>>I've noticed the same thing. That and fried > >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>>chicken. I agree. Its very frustrating to see steamed veggies on the menu yet they come with butter on top. Or worse, they pile on the salt in the name of "seasonings". I went to applebees a while ago and the seasonings on the brocolli were so over powering that I could not eat them. Next time I will ask for no butter and no seasonings. Too much sodium is just as bad for you. >I personally think the trans fat ban is great. If my favorite food was >unhealthy, I would live longer without it. [quoted text clipped - 155 lines] >>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>> >> >>>>>I've noticed the same thing. That and fried chicken. At home I cook broccoli and eat it with just pepper and garlic on top. I'll make a lemon butter garlic topping for my husband and son. I hate those steamed tasteless vegetables. Audrey >I agree. Its very frustrating to see steamed veggies on the menu yet >they come with butter on top. Or worse, they pile on the salt in the [quoted text clipped - 215 lines] >>>> >>>> >> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> >>>>>I've noticed the same thing. That and fried chicken. when you steam them the next time if you use an electric steamer, cut an apple and steam it along with the vegetables, the apple is excellent and it flavors any vegetable very nicely. Lee > At home I cook broccoli and eat it with just pepper and garlic on top. > I'll make a lemon butter garlic topping for my husband and son. I hate [quoted text clipped - 219 lines] > >>>> >>>> >> >>>> > >>>> >>>> >> >>>>>I've noticed the same thing. That and fried chicken. That's exactly what happenning to me today at lunch. Lovely vegetables, but too much butter. Sure, that's in my little corner of the world, but why do people think butter mix with some kind of beggies? It does not! Audrey, it's totally off topic, but what happened to alt.fashion? It's a mess there, where are all the "normal posters"? R > I agree. Its very frustrating to see steamed veggies on the menu yet they > come with butter on top. Or worse, they pile on the salt in the name of [quoted text clipped - 161 lines] > >>> >>>> >> >>>> > >>> >>>> >> >>>>>I've noticed the same thing. That and fried chicken. Rachel We've all gone to a yahoo group. If you are interested please e mail me at ahmward@gmail.com and I will send you an invitation. I agree with Willow that the diner must be assertive. If they bring me a salad tossed with dressing or something I know will pile on lots of calories, I send it back. I rarely send things back to the kitchen but can justify the times I do. Audrey > That's exactly what happenning to me today at lunch. Lovely > vegetables, [quoted text clipped - 241 lines] >> >>> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> >>>>>I've noticed the same thing. That and fried chicken. that is a little extreme, privately owned dwellings and business regardless of how much public comes should be under the control of the owner, but privately held property that doesn't commonly include/invite the public really is a little too far, Lee > There is a city call Belmont in the San Francisco Bay area that is proposing > a smoking ban in the entire city. Even in your are or on the street. If [quoted text clipped - 103 lines] > >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>>>I've noticed the same thing. That and fried chicken. No in most places you can't smoke outside by the door either.. Will~ Not smoking anymore in California > You would be put off in California then, as all restaurants are smoke-free > environments, along with all business establishments too. I think the [quoted text clipped - 64 lines] >>> >>>> >>> >>>>>I've noticed the same thing. That and fried chicken. > why, in the name of common sense, have restaurants ALL started bumping > a handfull of grated cheese on top of perfectly good salads? Last [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > the only diet newsgroup I've found where there aren't a lot of fad > ideas being discussed. Return the salad if the dressing is not on the side. Audrey I thought I was the only one bothered by the cheese deal. It surprised me when I brought a salad at a fast food place and it had cheese. I brought it back to the counter and was told that all the salads come that way. I returned the salad and asked for my money back. Hugs, Catherine > why, in the name of common sense, have restaurants ALL started bumping a > handfull of grated cheese on top of perfectly good salads? Last time I [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > only diet newsgroup I've found where there aren't a lot of fad ideas being > discussed. welcome if you are a regular and keep sending it back they will get it, especially if you tip good when they get it right the first time. other than that you are doing it right, Lee > why, in the name of common sense, have restaurants ALL started bumping a > handfull of grated cheese on top of perfectly good salads? Last time I [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > only diet newsgroup I've found where there aren't a lot of fad ideas > being discussed. The trick in restaurant is to ask a lot of questions, and to be assertive. If they don't bring what I asked for, it's going back to the kitchen... I'll be darned if I pay for food that I don't want. Will~ > why, in the name of common sense, have restaurants ALL started bumping a > handfull of grated cheese on top of perfectly good salads? Last time I [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > only diet newsgroup I've found where there aren't a lot of fad ideas being > discussed. |
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