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ahmward - 13 Dec 2006 16:37 GMT
Has anyone gone to a meeting this week to get the new materials?  I'll
be at one tomorrow and I am ready for a fresh start!

Audrey
Gary G - 13 Dec 2006 16:46 GMT
Well...I went yesterday...Really seems like a whole lot of hype for very
little...Maybe I'm just jaded...I expected some big changes...But really WW
worked fine for me as it was...Nice new point lookup card...Pretty
pictures...But really not much new in my humble opinion...I'm interested in
what others thinks...GG
> Has anyone gone to a meeting this week to get the new materials?  I'll be
> at one tomorrow and I am ready for a fresh start!
>
> Audrey
Willow Herself - 13 Dec 2006 17:10 GMT
They did make a lot out of simple changes, but I think they ARE changes for
the best.. personal daily point target makes so much more sense, as do the
new snack list for Core..

As for the material, it's more people friendly, more meaningful visuals,
better organized. The new starter kit is so much better than the old one...
you actually can find stuff in it!!!!

As a leader, I'm happy to find material that the members will understand. We
can spend less time of program details and more on really what's going on
since members can read and understand the program better by themselves.

And... the new complete food companion is organized by categories, not just
alphabetical order !! FINALLY !

It is simple changes but I think it's significant ones..
Will~

> Well...I went yesterday...Really seems like a whole lot of hype for very
> little...Maybe I'm just jaded...I expected some big changes...But really
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>> Audrey
Gary G - 14 Dec 2006 02:27 GMT
Very well said...I thought you might get offended but no your right
on...Glad your around Willow...GG

> They did make a lot out of simple changes, but I think they ARE changes
> for the best.. personal daily point target makes so much more sense, as do
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>>> Audrey
Willow Herself - 14 Dec 2006 04:45 GMT
Naaww a lot of people (member AND staff) have a hard time with changes..

I don't like changes for changes.. and it has happened in the past. This
time they looked at the US program, at the UK program and saw that it works
better in the UK and adjusted..
WIll~

> Very well said...I thought you might get offended but no your right
> on...Glad your around Willow...GG
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>>>> Audrey
Stormmee - 14 Dec 2006 15:05 GMT
I generally don't like change even when warranted.  This time I am looking
forward to it.  Guess am getting better.  Lee
> Naaww a lot of people (member AND staff) have a hard time with changes..
>
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> >>>>
> >>>> Audrey
ahmward - 14 Dec 2006 23:38 GMT
My point total has decreased by one point to 21.  That will be tough as
I generally average 23.  This past week though I lost 2.6 and didn't
track.  I just knew I was eating the right amount of food and not
snacking on bad stuff.  I may save the new tracker for after Christmas
and try to maintain these next two weeks.

I like the new materials.  They are easier to read.  I am going to SF
tomorrow and will read them on the trip.

Audrey
Stormmee - 15 Dec 2006 00:17 GMT
interested in what you think of them, Lee
> My point total has decreased by one point to 21.  That will be tough as
> I generally average 23.  This past week though I lost 2.6 and didn't
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> Audrey
Laura - 14 Dec 2006 11:43 GMT
Thanks for your insight into the changes. I don't get to hear the live
version until Saturday morning. I know what the changes are but I am
interested in how she presents them. There's lots of negative reaction to
the core changes over on the WW message board.

As I indicated before, I recalculated my Flex target points and I should be
eating 19-21 points instead of the 22 points based on the old flex point
ranges. I know that I need to increase my activity level if I am ever going
to get the scale moving again. That and get my dang eating under control.

With the new lower target points did you get any members suddenly realise
that Core might be an easier program for them? I can't see being able to
survive on less than 20 points per day. 22 seems to be more my norm.

> They did make a lot out of simple changes, but I think they ARE changes
> for the best.. personal daily point target makes so much more sense, as do
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>>> Audrey
Stormmee - 14 Dec 2006 15:06 GMT
I did mine on the WW site and am still at 22.  Lee
> Thanks for your insight into the changes. I don't get to hear the live
> version until Saturday morning. I know what the changes are but I am
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> >>> Audrey
Laura - 14 Dec 2006 17:08 GMT
What activity level did you select? That seems to play a major determination
in the points.

I am currently at 155 so I am approaching the lower limit of the 22 points
per day range. That may have been part of it too. I don't know if they have
changed the ranges since I also have not made it to a meeting yet.

>I did mine on the WW site and am still at 22.  Lee
>> Thanks for your insight into the changes. I don't get to hear the live
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>> >>> Audrey
Stormmee - 14 Dec 2006 17:10 GMT
I took mostly sitting at work, which is not exactly true its more like
mostly standing.  I did it then went to work so I am going to get input from
DH.  I didn't want to change because my work has been the same all the time
I have been on WW so I figured my body was used to it but I am considering
changing it as I do move pretty steadily while at work, if not walking, I am
bending stretching and similar, Lee
> What activity level did you select? That seems to play a major determination
> in the points.
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> >> >>> Audrey
Willow Herself - 14 Dec 2006 19:45 GMT
Keep in mind that by "activity level" they mean day to day stuff, not your
work outs, walks ect. It's about what do you do during the day?
Will~

> What activity level did you select? That seems to play a major
> determination in the points.
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>>> >>> Audrey
Laura - 14 Dec 2006 22:56 GMT
That's what I figured. I basically alternate from very busy days running
errands to light days sitting at the computer. Which level should I pick? I
ran both sitting and standing which resulted in 19 or 21 points. How are we
supposed to handle our varying lifestyles with this new formula?

> Keep in mind that by "activity level" they mean day to day stuff, not your
> work outs, walks ect. It's about what do you do during the day?
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Stormmee - 14 Dec 2006 22:53 GMT
maybe average it at 20 or know on the not busy days you eat 2 points less,?
Lee guessing
> That's what I figured. I basically alternate from very busy days running
> errands to light days sitting at the computer. Which level should I pick? I
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> >>>> >>> Audrey
Laura - 14 Dec 2006 23:36 GMT
I've set my tracker down to 21 for now. Let's see how I do with 21. I would
be going down to 20 soon anyway so maybe one point at a time is good idea.
I'm guessing too. I'll ask my leader on Saturday what she thinks. Maybe when
I see the materials it will be more obvious what to do.

> maybe average it at 20 or know on the not busy days you eat 2 points
> less,?
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>> >>>> >>> Audrey
Stormmee - 15 Dec 2006 00:15 GMT
will be interesting what she says, and the logic the two of you use to get
the number, Lee
> I've set my tracker down to 21 for now. Let's see how I do with 21. I would
> be going down to 20 soon anyway so maybe one point at a time is good idea.
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> >> >>>> >>> Audrey
Willow Herself - 14 Dec 2006 19:44 GMT
That's what your 35 weekly point allowance is for..
Will~

> Thanks for your insight into the changes. I don't get to hear the live
> version until Saturday morning. I know what the changes are but I am
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>>>> Audrey
Stormmee - 14 Dec 2006 13:22 GMT
thank you for this, Lee
> They did make a lot out of simple changes, but I think they ARE changes for
> the best.. personal daily point target makes so much more sense, as do the
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> >> Audrey
Uncle Bonzi - 17 Dec 2006 05:26 GMT
> They did make a lot out of simple changes, but I think they ARE changes for
> the best.. personal daily point target makes so much more sense, as do the
> new snack list for Core..

Willow is this right?

Male      8  points
277 lbs 27 points
57          1 point
Sitting     0 points
5'11"       2 points
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total      38 points

> As for the material, it's more people friendly, more meaningful visuals,
> better organized. The new starter kit is so much better than the old one...
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> can spend less time of program details and more on really what's going on
> since members can read and understand the program better by themselves.

It explains all of the odd questions like counting decaf/sf soda as up
to half the water count.

> And... the new complete food companion is organized by categories, not just
> alphabetical order !! FINALLY !

Its usable finally.

> It is simple changes but I think it's significant ones..
> Will~

So far the only thing I not real keen on is the periwinkle starter kit.

Mongo like.

- R

> > Well...I went yesterday...Really seems like a whole lot of hype for very
> > little...Maybe I'm just jaded...I expected some big changes...But really
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> >>
> >> Audrey
Willow Herself - 17 Dec 2006 06:02 GMT
>> They did make a lot out of simple changes, but I think they ARE changes
>> for
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> total      38 points

Looks right to me

>> As for the material, it's more people friendly, more meaningful visuals,
>> better organized. The new starter kit is so much better than the old
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>
> - R

My only beef with it is the new point finder/ point booster slider... hate
it...

Organizer is a lot cheaper.. but..
Will~

>> > Well...I went yesterday...Really seems like a whole lot of hype for
>> > very
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>> >> Audrey
Stormmee - 17 Dec 2006 07:04 GMT
DH says the points finder sucks, Lee, who just happened to get new
replacements for the old ones a couple of weeks ago, THANK YOU!!!

> >> They did make a lot out of simple changes, but I think they ARE changes
> >> for
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> >> >>
> >> >> Audrey
Willow Herself - 17 Dec 2006 14:45 GMT
;op

> DH says the points finder sucks, Lee, who just happened to get new
> replacements for the old ones a couple of weeks ago, THANK YOU!!!
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>> >> >> Audrey
Stormmee - 17 Dec 2006 07:01 GMT
I like I get two more points, Lee

> > They did make a lot out of simple changes, but I think they ARE changes for
> > the best.. personal daily point target makes so much more sense, as do the
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> > >> Audrey
Stormmee - 14 Dec 2006 13:21 GMT
our leader said last wee think of this as  a refresh/refinement NOT a whole
new program, Lee oddly less stressed this time,
> Well...I went yesterday...Really seems like a whole lot of hype for very
> little...Maybe I'm just jaded...I expected some big changes...But really WW
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> >
> > Audrey
Willow Herself - 13 Dec 2006 17:02 GMT
The program is the same, just more refined !
Will~

> Has anyone gone to a meeting this week to get the new materials?  I'll be
> at one tomorrow and I am ready for a fresh start!
>
> Audrey
Stormmee - 14 Dec 2006 13:20 GMT
was going to go today so I could go a second time if need be, but I ate at
maverick last night, NO weighing in today for me, let us know if you liked
it, Lee
> Has anyone gone to a meeting this week to get the new materials?  I'll
> be at one tomorrow and I am ready for a fresh start!
>
> Audrey
Louise Weiler - 14 Dec 2006 21:29 GMT
One of my friends went today (I'm going Saturday) but she showed me the
materials...My point total doesn't change (for another 3 lbs. :-) ), and
it calculates out at the same place the old number gave me.  BUT, it
does seem to me that it's more intuitive (not to mention easier!) to
lose one point at a time as you are losing weight, as opposed to losing
two points at once.  AND, the differences for men and women I think are
a big thing...JMHO.

Louise

> Has anyone gone to a meeting this week to get the new materials?  I'll
> be at one tomorrow and I am ready for a fresh start!
>
> Audrey
Stormmee - 14 Dec 2006 22:52 GMT
I think I am liking what I am hearing, Lee
> One of my friends went today (I'm going Saturday) but she showed me the
> materials...My point total doesn't change (for another 3 lbs. :-) ), and
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> >
> > Audrey
AWilliamson - 20 Dec 2006 00:21 GMT
>Has anyone gone to a meeting this week to get the new materials?

I got an extra point out of the change.

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Stormmee - 20 Dec 2006 01:12 GMT
that is so weird to me, I got 2, Lee

> >Has anyone gone to a meeting this week to get the new materials?
>
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>    Nature and Science in Harmony
> http://www.shaklee.net/williamson/
ahmward - 20 Dec 2006 04:03 GMT
I lost a point.
Audrey

> that is so weird to me, I got 2, Lee
>>
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>>    Nature and Science in Harmony
>> http://www.shaklee.net/williamson/
Stormmee - 20 Dec 2006 05:53 GMT
MAJOR bummer, Lee
> I lost a point.
> Audrey
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> >>    Nature and Science in Harmony
> >> http://www.shaklee.net/williamson/
 
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