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Willow Herself - 13 Dec 2006 16:41 GMT I had a little holiday fall over here !!! O-O
One party.. another party.. hummm.. I gave myself one meal off a week.. but that became two (cause I had two party and would make it up the next week) and then 3.... but I'd make it up..
No no no no no no I worked too hard.. no more freebies.. I'm not to be trusted with them!
Week all planned out, snacks and all... cooking and preparing.. no more crackers in the house...
I'm back on track honey... I ain't gonna forget what I'm all about !
Will~
ahmward - 13 Dec 2006 22:50 GMT >I had a little holiday fall over here !!! O-O > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Will~ That happened to me last week. I had two wonderful parties Tuesday and Wednesday and then weighed in on Thursday. I was up .6 but it felt more than that. Luckily not all weeks are like that and this week I know I will show a loss when I weigh in tomorrow. I have no regrets about those parties last week. My choices were items I loved so I didn't throw away points on junk.
Audrey
Stormmee - 14 Dec 2006 15:08 GMT good attitude, Lee
> >I had a little holiday fall over here !!! O-O > > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Audrey Stormmee - 14 Dec 2006 15:07 GMT good girl, Lee
> I had a little holiday fall over here !!! O-O > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Will~ Laura - 14 Dec 2006 17:04 GMT Good to see you back on track...
>I had a little holiday fall over here !!! O-O > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Will~ teachrmama - 16 Dec 2006 05:03 GMT I can certainly elate! Parties themselves are not my weak point--being tired is--and this week was exhausting! I wanted to eat many different things that I knew were not worth it--finally forced myself to sit in the easy chair and grab a quick nap before I decided what (or if) to eat. It worked! I'm back in charge of my choices!
TM =c)
>I had a little holiday fall over here !!! O-O > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Will~ Willow Herself - 16 Dec 2006 21:25 GMT There's a lesson there... one I should follow! Will~
>I can certainly elate! Parties themselves are not my weak point--being >tired is--and this week was exhausting! I wanted to eat many different [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >> >> Will~ Uncle Bonzi - 17 Dec 2006 05:15 GMT Nice to know your human.... In N.A. they say "One is to many and a thousand is never enough."
I always thought GOD gave me two hands to eat with.
- Ralph
> There's a lesson there... one I should follow! > Will~ [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > >> > >> Will~ teachrmama - 17 Dec 2006 05:27 GMT > Nice to know your human.... In N.A. they say "One is to many and a > thousand is never enough." > > I always thought GOD gave me two hands to eat with. Only when your hands are not involved with other things GOD also gave you 2 hands for. <smile>
TM
Stormmee - 17 Dec 2006 06:54 GMT lots of rewarding stuff, Lee, thinking a hug is always a good thing,
> > Nice to know your human.... In N.A. they say "One is to many and a > > thousand is never enough." [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > TM Willow Herself - 17 Dec 2006 06:06 GMT :o) I've had many setbacks this fall... professionnally, personally... feel myself falling back into the "why bother" and the "I'm gonna f.ck it up anyway, so why make the effort in the first place" frame of mind again..
I've been straight and sober for over 6 years now.. on plan for 4... sometimes it's all very easy... sometimes everything is a struggle... I'll pull through though.. I always do.. somehow..
First wall I hit since moving to the states.. kinda lonely.. oh well.. Will~
> Nice to know your human.... In N.A. they say "One is to many and a > thousand is never enough." [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] >> >> >> >> Will~ Stormmee - 17 Dec 2006 06:56 GMT you are inspiring with all you have accomplished, Lee
> :o) I've had many setbacks this fall... professionnally, personally... feel > myself falling back into the "why bother" and the "I'm gonna f.ck it up [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > >> >> > >> >> Will~ Gary G - 17 Dec 2006 15:29 GMT I guess this is something which happens to us all...I also fall off sometimes,...but wake up the next day and keep OP...Seems for me that sometimes a quick explosion of food satisfies me and also shows me it really is never as good as I think it's going be...In fact I seem more aware of my "fullness" then I ever was...Keep the faith Willow...GG
> :o) I've had many setbacks this fall... professionnally, personally... > feel myself falling back into the "why bother" and the "I'm gonna f.ck it [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] >>> >> >>> >> Will~ teachrmama - 17 Dec 2006 19:30 GMT > :o) I've had many setbacks this fall... professionnally, personally... > feel myself falling back into the "why bother" and the "I'm gonna f.ck it [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > First wall I hit since moving to the states.. kinda lonely.. oh well.. I know the feeling well. Sometimes I don't think I can keep going--even for one day at a time. Sometimes I have to revert to one hour at a time--or even 10 minutes at a time. It usually happens after I have finished a big project I was working on and now my attention can refocus on everything else around me. For example, early this year I completed coursework for my Reading Specialist Credential--I had been going to school half time and teaching full time, so everything was pretty intense. Once that goal was met, I suddenly had way more "thinking time" than I'd had before--and that's what usually does me in. Weird, huh? I'm still in the process of finding ways to cope in the lonely times, or the chaos times. Like taking a quick nap the other day. It doesn't come easily, because I am not in the habit of being kind or generous with myself--only with others. Hang in there, Willow. You'll get through this. One day at a time.
Stormmee - 17 Dec 2006 20:22 GMT to tell you the truth there are times when its one bite at a time, Lee
> > :o) I've had many setbacks this fall... professionnally, personally... > > feel myself falling back into the "why bother" and the "I'm gonna f.ck it [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > being kind or generous with myself--only with others. Hang in there, > Willow. You'll get through this. One day at a time. Willow Herself - 17 Dec 2006 21:29 GMT :o) That's what I feel these days... one minute at a time... I ate well for breakfast, I ate well for lunch, I'm still straight, still sober..
Next minute now.. Will~
> to tell you the truth there are times when its one bite at a time, Lee >> [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] >> being kind or generous with myself--only with others. Hang in there, >> Willow. You'll get through this. One day at a time. teachrmama - 17 Dec 2006 21:47 GMT Excellent!! I had a salad with 95% lettuce and a few other veggies and some fat free cheese hidden in there as surprise flavor bursts, so I'm good for a while, too. =c)
> :o) That's what I feel these days... one minute at a time... I ate well > for breakfast, I ate well for lunch, I'm still straight, still sober.. [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] >>> being kind or generous with myself--only with others. Hang in there, >>> Willow. You'll get through this. One day at a time. Stormmee - 17 Dec 2006 22:16 GMT exactly, Lee
> :o) That's what I feel these days... one minute at a time... I ate well for > breakfast, I ate well for lunch, I'm still straight, still sober.. [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > >> being kind or generous with myself--only with others. Hang in there, > >> Willow. You'll get through this. One day at a time. Laura - 17 Dec 2006 22:18 GMT Good job. Keep it up.
> :o) That's what I feel these days... one minute at a time... I ate well > for breakfast, I ate well for lunch, I'm still straight, still sober.. [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] >>> being kind or generous with myself--only with others. Hang in there, >>> Willow. You'll get through this. One day at a time. teachrmama - 17 Dec 2006 21:51 GMT > to tell you the truth there are times when its one bite at a time, Lee That is certainly the truth! My girls were making Christmas goodies for our extended family yesterday--dipping butter cookies in melted chocolate and sprinkling them with nuts and cake decorators--the house smelled sooooooo good! It's amazing how much aromas can stimulate feeling of wanting to eat--not hunger, just cravings.
>> > :o) I've had many setbacks this fall... professionnally, personally... >> > feel myself falling back into the "why bother" and the "I'm gonna f.ck [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] >> being kind or generous with myself--only with others. Hang in there, >> Willow. You'll get through this. One day at a time. Stormmee - 17 Dec 2006 22:17 GMT that might have been hard for me to deal with, Lee
> > to tell you the truth there are times when its one bite at a time, Lee > [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > >> being kind or generous with myself--only with others. Hang in there, > >> Willow. You'll get through this. One day at a time. teachrmama - 18 Dec 2006 00:15 GMT > that might have been hard for me to deal with, Lee It certainly was for me! I jumped on the exercise bike and rode like crazy!
>> > to tell you the truth there are times when its one bite at a time, Lee >> [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] >> >> being kind or generous with myself--only with others. Hang in there, >> >> Willow. You'll get through this. One day at a time. Stormmee - 18 Dec 2006 01:34 GMT good solution, Lee
> > that might have been hard for me to deal with, Lee > [quoted text clipped - 52 lines] > >> >> being kind or generous with myself--only with others. Hang in there, > >> >> Willow. You'll get through this. One day at a time. Stormmee - 17 Dec 2006 06:53 GMT good for you, Lee
> I can certainly elate! Parties themselves are not my weak point--being > tired is--and this week was exhausting! I wanted to eat many different [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > > > Will~ doug lerner - 19 Dec 2006 20:27 GMT My theory, which some people here object to, is that we, who have weight problems, should NEVER take off. That is like telling an alcoholic to take off for just one evening.
doug
> I had a little holiday fall over here !!! O-O > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Will~ Stormmee - 20 Dec 2006 01:09 GMT I think this is a ymmv deal. some can make a decision to take off and be fine, others can't, Lee
> My theory, which some people here object to, is that we, who have > weight problems, should NEVER take off. That is like telling an [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > > > Will~ Willow Herself - 20 Dec 2006 01:29 GMT I don't agree... If it works for you, go for it, but it is not the same.
I don't believe in food addiction. I think it's an easy excuse for goofing off. I'm a drug addict, I've been straight for years, but I can't even let myself think about doing the stuff, because when I do my BODY screams for it. The symptoms are physical, not emotional, and on touch would be enough to get completely hooked all over again.
Food is a different matter, eating right is a matter of awareness, discipline. It's just paying attention to what I'm doing and make the extra effort of making the right choices. My body doesn't ask for the "wrong foods" and there is no euphoria when I get them. On the contrary, when I eat right, I feel awesome, when I eat wrong, I feel crummy.. .
My body is telling me no, and because I'm bored, sad, angry, frustrated, happy, I fail to listen to it and just go for the instant gratification that last 5 seconds or so..
Will~
> My theory, which some people here object to, is that we, who have > weight problems, should NEVER take off. That is like telling an [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >> >> Will~ Stormmee - 20 Dec 2006 01:35 GMT your body is not a food addict, but I am sure it is a physical addiction for some, up to and including, euphoria when eating, and not being able to stop. but I also think that this is one of those, you gotta live to know, Lee, cigarette addict,
> I don't agree... If it works for you, go for it, but it is not the same. > [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > >> > >> Will~ Willow Herself - 20 Dec 2006 06:10 GMT As I said, whatever works... but I'd like to see any kind of proof that there is a physical addiction to overeating... or the whole sugar addiction thing... it's been claimed for a long time... I've never seen any kind of scientific backing to the claims though..
We're all addicted to food.. without it we die... but that's a different story..
It's a compulsive behavior, that I'll believe... and it's not easier to deal with than a physical addiction.. but there's a lot of claims and little litterature behind them...
Will~
> your body is not a food addict, but I am sure it is a physical addiction > for [quoted text clipped - 52 lines] >> >> >> >> Will~ Gary G - 21 Dec 2006 03:29 GMT Sorry Doug but I must disagree...You can go a lifetime without a drink...You will always eat...Let me ask you...What will you do if you "take off"...Seems to me it would be a major trauma for you...My loss has been terrific and I have taken off many times...But when I wake up the next morning I'm back OP...For me learning to eat within my frame is more important than to deny the occasional fling...I love food,..but now I know that I can eat just one...Peace and good health to all...GG
> My theory, which some people here object to, is that we, who have > weight problems, should NEVER take off. That is like telling an [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >> >> Will~ doug lerner - 23 Dec 2006 21:54 GMT Well, like I said, some people will disagree with me. Maybe a majority will. :)
I don't think food is *physically* addicting. But for myself (and for too many other people who I have read here), it is definitely psychologically addicting and extraordinarily difficult, if not impossible, to "take off a day" and then bounce back and keep on going.
One meal drags into all day which drags into multiple days which drags into missed weigh-ins and weight creeping back on, etc.
For myself, I couldn't do it. Thus the "never ever under any circumstances" take "a break" from my diet rule.
The only exception I would make would be if something truly catastrophic happened, like being stuck on an island (like in "Lost") and I couldn't count calories anymore. :)
To me the important thing is getting out of the "gluttony mindset" that equates special occasions with overeating high-caloric foods.
So I continue to recommend "no exceptions - ever". Instead I recommend tweaking the diet so it is comfortable for you to stay on forever - so you don't feel the need to "take off a day".
In my diet the "bonus calories" help me with special occasions. Similarly, in WW there are like 1500 calories/week in the form of free point there for that purpose, right? That allows you to sample holiday treats and still stay on your diet. That is what I strongly recommend.
doug
> Sorry Doug but I must disagree...You can go a lifetime without a drink...You > will always eat...Let me ask you...What will you do if you "take [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > >> Will~ ahmward - 25 Dec 2006 00:08 GMT This is why you are so successful and after all these years I have struggles. My buddy at meetings lost 160 pounds, half her body weight and her philosophy is like yours. She can't even have flex points or she gains. She is 68 and quite sedentary so she must be satisfied with approximately 22 points daily to maintain her weight. Audrey
> Well, like I said, some people will disagree with me. Maybe a majority > will. :) [quoted text clipped - 70 lines] >> >> >> Will~ Willow Herself - 26 Dec 2006 22:46 GMT Just want to point out that when I go "off program" I don't over eat...
It's not an eating binge.. I might eat more than I would normally... but I won't shovell it down... I've worked too hard..
WIll~
> Well, like I said, some people will disagree with me. Maybe a majority > will. :) [quoted text clipped - 63 lines] >> >> >> Will~
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