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NYNY - Fred - Dec 10th
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Fred - 10 Dec 2003 20:12 GMT Okay here we go:
I am down since last week: 1.8 pounds
(that is using my base clothing measurements which means removing 1.6 pounds from the current wardrobe) But I'm down in any event 0.2 pounds even with the heavier clothing. So I guess the chocolate cake on Sat night was not deadly - YES!
Current weight: 156.6 (heavier clothing 158.2)
But I will mention my sister's take on this minimum weight issue (she, by the way has never had a weight problem other than being UNDER most of her life!!!). I mentioned getting to 155 to have a sufficient clothing cushion. She suggested as some of us have discussed then you will not want to move much from there and will try being just a bit lower to keep 155 and so on and so forth and ...... Which is what I've been thinking. So what does it mean. I have no idea (g)
(aside: don't eat your heart out Lesanne, you cannot afford the points (gd&r)
Fred 219.2/156.6/164.0 (Lifetime) Started WW: Oct 29, 2002
Lesanne - 10 Dec 2003 22:36 GMT Okay, I give up, you win. I am very impressed.
Gotta tell you, I don't understand what your sister said. Do you think she meant that when you get to 155, you will want to weigh less than that? I have wondered that a lot myself. This week, at 157 and thereabouts, I find that I totally don't want to get much more off. I don't feel quite as well as I do at 160. But I want to stay under 160. I may be done, right here. I will get my NYNY goal this week unless some really bizarre thing happens.
So you win. Not going there most likely. (unless you gain of course)
> Okay here we go: > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > 219.2/156.6/164.0 (Lifetime) > Started WW: Oct 29, 2002 Fred - 11 Dec 2003 00:19 GMT
>Okay, I give up, you win. I am very impressed. I am not sure what I did this past week and since I do not Journal anymore other than eating the same basic stuff, there is nothing to check against. I did not get as much exercise but maybe raking up and wheelbarrowing lots and lots of leaves. Or maybe my portions are actually smaller than I perceive, other than breakfast where I know I am doing more than one cup of cereal.
>Gotta tell you, I don't understand what your sister said. Do you think she >meant that when you get to 155, you will want to weigh less than that? Yes, that is what she meant. That each time I move the line down for "safety" I might want to move it down just a bit further so that I draw a new safety line and don't approach the OLD one - like 164, oh, well, 160, hmm, 158..... 155, 154?. So maybe shooting for 155 should be just a rough idea and hovering now would be fine. Up a pound down a pound. I know the rules. I occasionally break the rules but not really as I quickly try reining it back in. Like purchasing a Costco Fruitcake today (g) It is sliced and frozen save the one piece I have already eaten. And I probably "chawed" half a bag of gummy bears last night and these are not tiny bags.
>have wondered that a lot myself. This week, at 157 and thereabouts, I find >that I totally don't want to get much more off. I don't feel quite as well >as I do at 160. But I want to stay under 160. I may be done, right here. >I will get my NYNY goal this week unless some really bizarre thing happens. You know I just had to look to see what the goal was. I was not sure it was 160 or 155. So I will call a truce, too. Life fireworks - safe and sane.
>So you win. Not going there most likely. (unless you gain of course) I will gain, of course. Xmas parties are coming up. And last night I was asked to make a gourmet, decadent dessert like my Christmas log (what a pain that one always is!!!) I'm still thinking of the sweet potato cheesecake but maybe frosting it with a chocolate glaze.
Fred
>> Okay here we go: >> [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] >> 219.2/156.6/164.0 (Lifetime) >> Started WW: Oct 29, 2002 Lesanne - 11 Dec 2003 01:32 GMT > >Gotta tell you, I don't understand what your sister said. Do you think she > >meant that when you get to 155, you will want to weigh less than that? [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > I have already eaten. And I probably "chawed" half a bag of gummy > bears last night and these are not tiny bags. Just this part, clipped the rest. I can see myself not ever being "done" just from the terror of going the other way. I am going to set my "back to journalin" number at 160, and let it be. I too have not been journaling this past week and I am at a new low. I think this just takes daily weigh ins, and a willingness to go back on program when the one sixes show, and hanging around here to keep the focus. I really have a hard time believing this. I was somewhere yesterday and someone I did not know well said something that caused me to say something about being fat :) They looked at me and said, "YOU AREN'T FAT!" I had to laugh I forgot. I'm not.
Fred - 11 Dec 2003 03:24 GMT That is well put. I have been UP there now twice. So I know what's possible. But I also know I have a lot more tools as far as food consumption. Now, attitude, mood, spirit, whatever might have more power behind it then just the tools. So it will need constant monitoring and vigilance.
I wish us all the best of luck and discipline.
>> >Gotta tell you, I don't understand what your sister said. Do you think >she [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] >me and said, "YOU AREN'T FAT!" I had to laugh >I forgot. I'm not. Lesanne - 11 Dec 2003 12:49 GMT Yesterday we went out to lunch, which we frequently do when babysitting DGD, since then the cafeteria she loves has to clean up the mess. My Ma loves fried anything. So do I, but you know how often I eat that sort of thing (same as any of us). We bought the lunch special plate of chicken fried chicken breast. There is not any skin, but there is a nice crunchy fried whatever all over it. I also got a vegetable plate, which has 3 veggies. I got mac and cheese (guess who loves that) canned corn (ditto) and green beans. Then when we got to table, I cut the chicken into 3 pieces, put about 2 T of mac and cheese, 2 T of corn, all the green beans and a third of the chicken on my plate. I really figured I would be up a pound this morning, but still nice ole 157. I think this whole thing is about portion control with the high calorie/fat/sugar items, and liberal servings of 0 point items for satiety and crunch (the chew factor) and this becomes not so hard. Are you also finding maintenance not as difficult as it was at first? I am! I hope that lasts!
> That is well put. I have been UP there now twice. So I know what's > possible. But I also know I have a lot more tools as far as food [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > >me and said, "YOU AREN'T FAT!" I had to laugh > >I forgot. I'm not. Fred - 11 Dec 2003 14:42 GMT I think that I'm developing my way of life. It probably may be too routine but it works. I have my meals down and while I do not measure everything (fish, shrimp, chicken), I do measure beef and cheese (on the rare blue cheese occasions) and lamb and nuts. Lunches are also standards at this point. When I do go out to eat, I have gotten very use to taking about half home (or on road trips, to the cooler). I don't seem to have the same driven cravenings for potato chips on the drives home from work and do not snack on cheese like I use to.
Desserts still have my name on them. Which explains the Costco chocolate cake and now the fruit cake. But I am trying to limit those indulgences to once a week.
Snacking on a lot of dried fruits but trying to limit them but sometimes that dried mango takes over.
PORTION control has definitely been a prime driver. I use to eat a ton, almost an entire package of 12 (dried) ozs of pasta as dinner. Now I really don't do that since potatoes have built-in portion control. And I do kasha and make sure I come close to a one cup serving. But it does not have the same calling pasta did. I like kasha a lot but it does not seem to demand to be overeaten. I really have to do bulghur again, too. I have some but like the kasha.
Breakfasts are also not measured very often. I should probably get a handle on a cup of whatever again, just for control.
We just have to remember that we have a problem and unlike alcohol (I never did much) or cigarettes (never), food cannot simply be avoided. So we need to keep HOPING and working on it. I do lose it like Prairie with Miss Meringues but they are more kindly than losing it with real ice cream or cheese. And I do force a late night pickle down rather than more POINTS of any other kind.
>Yesterday we went out to lunch, which we frequently do when babysitting DGD, >since then the cafeteria she loves has to clean up the mess. My Ma loves [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] >> >me and said, "YOU AREN'T FAT!" I had to laugh >> >I forgot. I'm not. Lesanne - 11 Dec 2003 14:51 GMT Maybe my pasta trick might work for you. Or tricks. I love pasta with some things, like the chicken randazzo.
I weigh out TWO dry ounces of whole wheat pasta.
I overcook it just a tad (it nearly tastes like pasta this way)
I add chopped zucchini or tatuma squash to my sauce for volume on the plate.
Those three things knock the heck out of a very very satisfying very large serving of pasta, which still rings my bell on some occations.
And yes. I take home half, or share a serving with Ma. And cherry tomatoes and carrot sticks take up space on the plate so my chips servings are much smaller and weighed. I love desserts too, but I go for a tiny something sweet at least once a day, as opposed to larger and less frequent. I don't do well with delayed gratification :)
> I think that I'm developing my way of life. It probably may be too > routine but it works. I have my meals down and while I do not measure [quoted text clipped - 84 lines] > >> >me and said, "YOU AREN'T FAT!" I had to laugh > >> >I forgot. I'm not. Fred - 12 Dec 2003 05:49 GMT I may try whole wheat pasta again but I never cared for it. There is something "wrong" with its mouth feel.
But a few weeks back we tried the Japanese buckwheat noodles. Fine stuff. Soba, I think. I could not find pure buckwheat - most had flour in them. I will hit the real Japanese market soon - I need eel with black beans (G) And Mackeral in teriaki sauce - both "fancy sardines!"
>Maybe my pasta trick might work for you. Or tricks. I love pasta with some >things, like the chicken randazzo. [quoted text clipped - 118 lines] >> >> >me and said, "YOU AREN'T FAT!" I had to laugh >> >> >I forgot. I'm not. Brenda Hammond - 12 Dec 2003 07:56 GMT > I may try whole wheat pasta again but I never cared for it. There is > something "wrong" with its mouth feel. I agree. The whole wheat pasta didn't do much for me either. I would probably try it again sometime, but prefer plain pasta.
> But a few weeks back we tried the Japanese buckwheat noodles. Fine > stuff. Soba, I think. I could not find pure buckwheat - most had > flour in them. I will hit the real Japanese market soon - I need eel > with black beans (G) And Mackeral in teriaki sauce - both "fancy > sardines!" Oooh, some other "strange" foods I've never tried. Eel and black beans sounds interesting. I've eaten mackeral once, but found it really oily. Is it normally very oily? How about when it's in teriyaki sauce?
> >Maybe my pasta trick might work for you. Or tricks. I love pasta with some > >things, like the chicken randazzo. [quoted text clipped - 118 lines] > >> >> >me and said, "YOU AREN'T FAT!" I had to laugh > >> >> >I forgot. I'm not. Fred - 12 Dec 2003 20:48 GMT
>> I may try whole wheat pasta again but I never cared for it. There is >> something "wrong" with its mouth feel.
>I agree. The whole wheat pasta didn't do much for me either. I would >probably try it again sometime, but prefer plain pasta. It's best that I don't discover another pasta anyway (g)
>> But a few weeks back we tried the Japanese buckwheat noodles. Fine >> stuff. Soba, I think. I could not find pure buckwheat - most had >> flour in them. I will hit the real Japanese market soon - I need eel >> with black beans (G) And Mackeral in teriaki sauce - both "fancy >> sardines!"
>Oooh, some other "strange" foods I've never tried. Eel and black beans >sounds interesting. I've eaten mackeral once, but found it really oily. Is >it normally very oily? How about when it's in teriyaki sauce? Well, I think mackeral is an acquired taste. At the sushi place it is not favored and yet I save it for the end as my "dessert!" The sushi chef likes it, too, but thinks making it dessert a bit odd. I like it because it HAS TASTE! (G)
In the Teriaki sauce (canned from Japan) it is great stuff. I actually would purchase 12 cans a few times a year and send them down to my dad in Tucson who loved the stuff (G)
>> >Maybe my pasta trick might work for you. Or tricks. I love pasta with >some [quoted text clipped - 142 lines] >> >> >> >me and said, "YOU AREN'T FAT!" I had to laugh >> >> >> >I forgot. I'm not. Brenda Hammond - 13 Dec 2003 03:44 GMT I've only just tried sushi for the first time this past year. I would probably eat it again, just not very often.
> >> I may try whole wheat pasta again but I never cared for it. There is > >> something "wrong" with its mouth feel. [quoted text clipped - 169 lines] > >> >> >> >me and said, "YOU AREN'T FAT!" I had to laugh > >> >> >> >I forgot. I'm not. Lesanne - 12 Dec 2003 12:29 GMT This is True about the WW pasta, but after a few dozen meals of the stuff, I found that I got "used" to it sort of, and now it is very good. This might not work for you, but I would suggest buying a pound and trying it, long on the sauce, an extra minute or two on the cooking time, and see. I like soba also. and rice noodle.
> I may try whole wheat pasta again but I never cared for it. There is > something "wrong" with its mouth feel. [quoted text clipped - 127 lines] > >> >> >me and said, "YOU AREN'T FAT!" I had to laugh > >> >> >I forgot. I'm not. Fred - 12 Dec 2003 20:50 GMT I've never seen WW pasta. At meetings or at a store? The rice noodles - the 'clear' cellophane ones? I take those backpacking but they can be hard to eat with just a spoon! (G) They are also almost impossible to break or cut down to shorter lengths before cooking.
>This is True about the WW pasta, but after a few dozen meals of the stuff, I >found that I got "used" to it sort of, and now it is very good. This might [quoted text clipped - 157 lines] >> >> >> >me and said, "YOU AREN'T FAT!" I had to laugh >> >> >> >I forgot. I'm not. Lesanne - 12 Dec 2003 21:22 GMT WW also = Whole Wheat :)
> I've never seen WW pasta. At meetings or at a store? The rice > noodles - the 'clear' cellophane ones? I take those backpacking but [quoted text clipped - 162 lines] > >> >> >> >me and said, "YOU AREN'T FAT!" I had to laugh > >> >> >> >I forgot. I'm not. Fred - 13 Dec 2003 01:41 GMT Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. (G)
>WW also = Whole Wheat :) > [quoted text clipped - 199 lines] >> >> >> >> >me and said, "YOU AREN'T FAT!" I had to laugh >> >> >> >> >I forgot. I'm not. Deb in Northern California - 13 Dec 2003 22:55 GMT Fred,
I thought the same thing you did, and figured she was talking about the WW Smart Ones Pasta dishes. LOL See how much I pay attention?
Debbie
> Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. (G) > [quoted text clipped - 201 lines] > >> >> >> >> >me and said, "YOU AREN'T FAT!" I had to laugh > >> >> >> >> >I forgot. I'm not. Prairie Roots - 11 Dec 2003 02:50 GMT W O W !!!!
Since I still can't imagine actually reaching goal, I'm even less able to imagine your quandary about whether you hava a sufficient cushion. I think I like Lesanne's idea though (elsewhere in this thread) about picking a weight equivalent to a line drawn in the sand.
Prairie Roots
>Okay here we go: > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] >219.2/156.6/164.0 (Lifetime) >Started WW: Oct 29, 2002 Fred - 11 Dec 2003 03:22 GMT I think that I'm at that "line drawn in the sand" place now.
Let me put it this way - I'm not trying for anorexia. And I am eating and appear to have sufficient energy for my activities. I restocked the dates and mango at Costco along with picking up a fruit cake (too bad they can't go more natural on their baked offerings) And while there is still a ripple around the middle, at my age it may be skin.
I know my secretary (who is a WW leader) is very big on people getting to their goal weight and really trying to MAINTAIN. And I would think that my floating up a bit and down a bit is there.
And I believe with your attitude, you will reach goal and Lifetime.
>W O W !!!! > [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] >>219.2/156.6/164.0 (Lifetime) >>Started WW: Oct 29, 2002 Prairie Roots - 11 Dec 2003 03:39 GMT Thanks for the vote of confidence. This week I'm not sure I agree. So I'll rely on your confidence until I regain some of my own.
>And I believe with your attitude, you will reach goal and Lifetime. Prairie Roots 232/170.8/WW goal 145 joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003
Brenda Hammond - 11 Dec 2003 05:51 GMT Wow Fred! You're doing a wonderful job and that clothing allowance is getting bigger, soon you'll be able to really bundle up when at meetings. Congratulations!!
> Okay here we go: > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > 219.2/156.6/164.0 (Lifetime) > Started WW: Oct 29, 2002 Fred - 11 Dec 2003 14:44 GMT Yes, I am waiting for the power failure - not really - that is one aspect of being thinner - I am running colder. I probably should rev up the metabolism by doing weights for the upper body.
>Wow Fred! You're doing a wonderful job and that clothing allowance is >getting bigger, soon you'll be able to really bundle up when at meetings. [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] >> 219.2/156.6/164.0 (Lifetime) >> Started WW: Oct 29, 2002 Brenda Hammond - 11 Dec 2003 15:49 GMT A year ago I was still in tops with short sleeves, blouses, t-shirts, etc. Now I'm wearing sweaters, fleece, sweatshirst, etc. I'm cold all the time! I wonder if our bodies will ever adjust, so that we don't feel the cold so much?
 Signature Brenda 209/174/150 NYNY goal 160
> Yes, I am waiting for the power failure - not really - that is one > aspect of being thinner - I am running colder. I probably should rev [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > >> 219.2/156.6/164.0 (Lifetime) > >> Started WW: Oct 29, 2002 Lesanne - 11 Dec 2003 20:40 GMT Brenda me too, my feet are Always cold.! And it is not a cold climate here, as I am sure I have mentioned ..
> A year ago I was still in tops with short sleeves, blouses, t-shirts, etc. > Now I'm wearing sweaters, fleece, sweatshirst, etc. I'm cold all the time! [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > > >> 219.2/156.6/164.0 (Lifetime) > > >> Started WW: Oct 29, 2002 Fred - 12 Dec 2003 01:22 GMT Yes, you have mentioned it after returning from the beach just a few weeks ago. I would probably feel quite warm down your way.
Cold feet, huh.................
>Brenda me too, my feet are Always cold.! And it is not a cold climate here, >as I am sure I have mentioned .. [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] >> > >> 219.2/156.6/164.0 (Lifetime) >> > >> Started WW: Oct 29, 2002 Brenda Hammond - 12 Dec 2003 04:11 GMT I've taken to wearing sheepskin slippers. Nice and fuzzy on the inside, but at least my feet are warm. Sometimes have to even put socks on under them as my ankles get cold! Our climate is cooler, but I've never felt so cold and I've lived here all my life. I'm looking forward to the warmer weather in spring and summer....
> Brenda me too, my feet are Always cold.! And it is not a cold climate here, > as I am sure I have mentioned .. [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > > > >> 219.2/156.6/164.0 (Lifetime) > > > >> Started WW: Oct 29, 2002 Anglea Woollcombe - 12 Dec 2003 12:34 GMT where r u from fred angie
> I've taken to wearing sheepskin slippers. Nice and fuzzy on the inside, but > at least my feet are warm. Sometimes have to even put socks on under them [quoted text clipped - 53 lines] > > > > >> 219.2/156.6/164.0 (Lifetime) > > > > >> Started WW: Oct 29, 2002 Fred - 12 Dec 2003 20:50 GMT Seattle, WA.
>where r u from fred >angie [quoted text clipped - 62 lines] >> > > > >> 219.2/156.6/164.0 (Lifetime) >> > > > >> Started WW: Oct 29, 2002 Prairie Roots - 12 Dec 2003 01:22 GMT Me three! Today I wore long underwear (top and bottom), layered under slacks, sweater, and jacket. I was still cold. For the last couple of months, I get cold easily and have a hard time getting warm. My feet STAY cold, as do my fingers. A few years ago, I ran a fan in my office. Now I'm running a foot warmer and wishing I could type with mittens on. I was starting to think I needed to have my thyroid checked. But maybe being cold is a normal effect of weight loss?
Prairie Roots
>A year ago I was still in tops with short sleeves, blouses, t-shirts, etc. >Now I'm wearing sweaters, fleece, sweatshirst, etc. I'm cold all the time! >I wonder if our bodies will ever adjust, so that we don't feel the cold so >much? Fred - 12 Dec 2003 05:57 GMT I saw our facilities director today and he specifically asked about the temperature. I suggested that the air conditioning was functioning wonderfully but it really was Dec and heat would be more appropriate. He offered a heater. I've always had feet problems in the cold but the hands have joined this year. I'm getting my "windmill" in shape - rotate arms rapidly in circles....
>Me three! Today I wore long underwear (top and bottom), layered under >slacks, sweater, and jacket. I was still cold. For the last couple of [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >>I wonder if our bodies will ever adjust, so that we don't feel the cold so >>much? Prairie Roots - 12 Dec 2003 05:58 GMT Now that's a vision....
>I'm getting my >"windmill" in shape - rotate arms rapidly in circles.... Prairie Roots 232/170.8/WW goal 145 joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003
Brenda Hammond - 12 Dec 2003 07:58 GMT Isn't it though? Fred in tight biking shorts, no shirt, rotating arms rapidly in circles....get a picture for us!
> Now that's a vision.... > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > 232/170.8/WW goal 145 > joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003 Fred - 12 Dec 2003 20:52 GMT I do not do it without a shirt - well, maybe when I get to the top and have to take off my drenched shirt. But it is brief!!!!
Now, clean up those thoughts! (G)
>Isn't it though? Fred in tight biking shorts, no shirt, rotating arms >rapidly in circles....get a picture for us! [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >> 232/170.8/WW goal 145 >> joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003 Miss Violette - 12 Dec 2003 23:16 GMT briefs??? hhhmmmm, not boxers??? Lee, snickering and hiding
> I do not do it without a shirt - well, maybe when I get to the top and > have to take off my drenched shirt. But it is brief!!!! [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >> 232/170.8/WW goal 145 > >> joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003 Fred - 13 Dec 2003 01:42 GMT I thought about that word as I posted but I decided to let it go - you pounced!!!! (G)
>briefs??? hhhmmmm, not boxers??? Lee, snickering and hiding >> I do not do it without a shirt - well, maybe when I get to the top and [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >> >> 232/170.8/WW goal 145 >> >> joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003 Miss Violette - 13 Dec 2003 02:31 GMT I just can't help myself, and pouncing is in the feline nature, Lee
> I thought about that word as I posted but I decided to let it go - you > pounced!!!! (G) [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > >> >> 232/170.8/WW goal 145 > >> >> joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003 Brenda Hammond - 14 Dec 2003 08:00 GMT Briefs? Anything skimpier, perhaps with strings???
> I do not do it without a shirt - well, maybe when I get to the top and > have to take off my drenched shirt. But it is brief!!!! [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >> 232/170.8/WW goal 145 > >> joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003 Fred - 14 Dec 2003 16:10 GMT You want strings, find a violinist! (G) Or maybe this group would be into a violence-ist???
>Briefs? Anything skimpier, perhaps with strings??? > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >> >> 232/170.8/WW goal 145 >> >> joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003 Brenda Hammond - 14 Dec 2003 16:15 GMT LOL! Thanks for the laugh. Now getting my mind out of the gutter.... Are you getting out for any exercise today? We've got rain and wind something awful here. Can't believe it after the beautiful weather yesterday. Don't think I'll be going far in that! We've got sugar cookie dough to roll out and bake today, then if we have time, maybe some gingerbread men.
Have a great day Fred! Hope your weather is better than ours.
> You want strings, find a violinist! (G) Or maybe this group would be > into a violence-ist??? [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > >> >> 232/170.8/WW goal 145 > >> >> joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003 Fred - 14 Dec 2003 17:58 GMT This weekend has been a BUST. Well, I continued to reorg the basement. And mucked with the computer since Roxio's Easy Creator messed up my partitions. They are still messed up but I have managed to mask the damage but cannot repair it.
Maybe I should have gone to the mountains but yesterday the pass was closed for about 3 hours or more with folks trapped in their cars by avalanche control work. More than 20 inches fell. Two folks appear to have been killed in separate avalanches near Mt Baker (closer to you) and down along I-90. Both were snowshoers. And the weather yesterday was awful down here.
Right now it is chilly, about 40F but the sun is shining so far. More showers expected. I will try bike riding if it warms a bit or even if it does not.
Limes are purchased and shrimp is the dinner of choice (G)
>LOL! Thanks for the laugh. Now getting my mind out of the gutter.... >Are you getting out for any exercise today? We've got rain and wind [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] >> >> >> 232/170.8/WW goal 145 >> >> >> joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003 Lesanne - 14 Dec 2003 20:08 GMT AHA, buttery shrimp, and no exercise.... I knew if I acted like I didn't care I was gonna get my chance...... (too bad about the cheese enchiladas I had for lunch, maybe next time)
> This weekend has been a BUST. Well, I continued to reorg the > basement. And mucked with the computer since Roxio's Easy Creator [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > >> >> >> 232/170.8/WW goal 145 > >> >> >> joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003 Fred - 14 Dec 2003 23:36 GMT I am sorry to disappoint you but I managed a 22.9 (but who is counting) mile bike ride with 1040 feet of elevation gain in 41F weather. But I did have a mocha, soy, decafe latte at Starbucks about halfway through the ride. Offset??
And by the time we headed out there was NO sun and quite a bit of wind which worked on the first part of the ride which went north but was a hinderance on the southbound leg.
But the scale showed UP this morning.
I did plan on reducing the oil/butter content by the way.
I have a feeling this is NOT going to be my week. Tomorrow is the work "holiday" luncheon.
>AHA, buttery shrimp, and no exercise.... I knew if I acted like I didn't >care I was gonna get my chance...... (too bad about the cheese enchiladas I [quoted text clipped - 55 lines] >> >> >> >> 232/170.8/WW goal 145 >> >> >> >> joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003 Joyce - 14 Dec 2003 20:34 GMT >This weekend has been a BUST. Well, I continued to reorg the >basement. And mucked with the computer since Roxio's Easy Creator >messed up my partitions. They are still messed up but I have managed >to mask the damage but cannot repair it. hehehe - sounds like Roxio Easy Creator isn't so easy. <g> I was looking at the possibility of buying a different dvd creater, reviews of roxio weren't so good (other than price). I opted to stick with the one that came standard on my computer. So far, it hasn't caused any problems.
>Maybe I should have gone to the mountains but yesterday the pass was >closed for about 3 hours or more with folks trapped in their cars by >avalanche control work. More than 20 inches fell. Two folks appear >to have been killed in separate avalanches near Mt Baker (closer to >you) and down along I-90. Both were snowshoers. And the weather >yesterday was awful down here. Sounds to me like you were wiser in choosing to stay away from those mountains yesterday. They'll still be there next weekend. Sorry to hear about the avalanches and possible loss of lives, that is always so sad ... more so with the holidays upon us.
>Right now it is chilly, about 40F but the sun is shining so far. More >showers expected. I will try bike riding if it warms a bit or even if >it does not. Chilly? I'm thinkin' heat wave ... we've been sitting right at 17 degrees for the past few days. It did get up to 34 at one point yesterday, just long enough to dump a little snow on the ground and make driving very nasty. Cold, cold, cold again today. I'm sticking closer to home today for a change, only need to run out to a food service store to pick up fruit/veggies/trays and get something made for the staff at the nursing home.
>Limes are purchased and shrimp is the dinner of choice (G) mmmmmmmmmm, and what time will dinner be served? I am awfully tired of pizza, chinese and quick grab sandwiches.
Joyce
>>LOL! Thanks for the laugh. Now getting my mind out of the gutter.... >>Are you getting out for any exercise today? We've got rain and wind [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] >>> >> >> 232/170.8/WW goal 145 >>> >> >> joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003 Fred - 14 Dec 2003 23:54 GMT
>>This weekend has been a BUST. Well, I continued to reorg the >>basement. And mucked with the computer since Roxio's Easy Creator >>messed up my partitions. They are still messed up but I have managed >>to mask the damage but cannot repair it.
>hehehe - sounds like Roxio Easy Creator isn't so easy. <g> I was looking at the >possibility of buying a different dvd creater, reviews of roxio weren't so good >(other than price). I opted to stick with the one that came standard on my >computer. So far, it hasn't caused any problems. It ain't easy. I am pretty irritated (clean up for public consumption!) If I have a free hour or two to spend on hold I might give them a call and complain big time.
>>Maybe I should have gone to the mountains but yesterday the pass was >>closed for about 3 hours or more with folks trapped in their cars by >>avalanche control work. More than 20 inches fell. Two folks appear >>to have been killed in separate avalanches near Mt Baker (closer to >>you) and down along I-90. Both were snowshoers. And the weather >>yesterday was awful down here.
>Sounds to me like you were wiser in choosing to stay away from those mountains >yesterday. They'll still be there next weekend. Sorry to hear about the >avalanches and possible loss of lives, that is always so sad ... more so with the >holidays upon us. It is sad. Both places are beautiful in the right conditions. I've snowshoed to where one woman is still missing.
>>Right now it is chilly, about 40F but the sun is shining so far. More >>showers expected. I will try bike riding if it warms a bit or even if >>it does not.
>Chilly? I'm thinkin' heat wave ... we've been sitting right at 17 degrees for the >past few days. It did get up to 34 at one point yesterday, just long enough to >dump a little snow on the ground and make driving very nasty. Cold, cold, cold >again today. I'm sticking closer to home today for a change, only need to run out >to a food service store to pick up fruit/veggies/trays and get something made for >the staff at the nursing home. Well, at 17F, I don't really consider bike riding except if the cabin fever gets real bad. It was chilly especially into the wind. But your conditions sound really awful. The 3 years I lived in Chicago it only got bad once or twice.
>>Limes are purchased and shrimp is the dinner of choice (G)
>mmmmmmmmmm, and what time will dinner be served? I am awfully tired of pizza, >chinese and quick grab sandwiches. 5-6 my time. Come on over if you can get to the airport.....
>Joyce >> [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] >>>> >> >> 232/170.8/WW goal 145 >>>> >> >> joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003 Joyce - 16 Dec 2003 09:32 GMT >>>This weekend has been a BUST. Well, I continued to reorg the >>>basement. And mucked with the computer since Roxio's Easy Creator [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >consumption!) If I have a free hour or two to spend on hold I might >give them a call and complain big time. So, did you complain and did they give you any solutions?
>>>Right now it is chilly, about 40F but the sun is shining so far. More >>>showers expected. I will try bike riding if it warms a bit or even if [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >your conditions sound really awful. The 3 years I lived in Chicago it >only got bad once or twice. That's the one nice thing about the low temps ... they don't last long, and when temps rise it does feel like a heat wave. Back into the 30s today, but overcast. The winds picked up this afternoon, making it feel a bit on the biting side again. I tend to look on the positive side, was talking to my son about this today. In a few weeks we will be into January ... which means only a few more months of winter. And so far we haven't had any really nasty weather. Time really does fly.
>>>Limes are purchased and shrimp is the dinner of choice (G) > >>mmmmmmmmmm, and what time will dinner be served? I am awfully tired of pizza, >>chinese and quick grab sandwiches. > >5-6 my time. Come on over if you can get to the airport..... Roads weren't too bad, just slick from the dusting of snow. I do think that inches is much easier to drive in than the slick wet blowing little amounts that come down. And we all know that everyone forgets how to drive in this stuff, which makes the matter worse. I could have got to the airport, was just too tired to do so. So I opted for lean pork, brussel sprouts and baked sweet potato instead. It was yummy, but not quite as exotic as your tequila shrimp.
Joyce
Fred - 17 Dec 2003 02:34 GMT
>>>>This weekend has been a BUST. Well, I continued to reorg the >>>>basement. And mucked with the computer since Roxio's Easy Creator >>>>messed up my partitions. They are still messed up but I have managed >>>>to mask the damage but cannot repair it.
>>>hehehe - sounds like Roxio Easy Creator isn't so easy. <g> I was looking at the >>>possibility of buying a different dvd creater, reviews of roxio weren't so good >>>(other than price). I opted to stick with the one that came standard on my >>>computer. So far, it hasn't caused any problems.
>>It ain't easy. I am pretty irritated (clean up for public >>consumption!) If I have a free hour or two to spend on hold I might >>give them a call and complain big time.
>So, did you complain and did they give you any solutions? Only on their Support forum where others users are also complaining but with no official response from them. If I have time tomorrow before WW, I may try sitting on hold for a while. But from what I gather, they will not do much. They will probably say it was something odd that Dell did to set up the partition altho, others with Linux partitions and other operating systems are having similar problems.
>>>>Right now it is chilly, about 40F but the sun is shining so far. More >>>>showers expected. I will try bike riding if it warms a bit or even if [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >>>to a food service store to pick up fruit/veggies/trays and get something made for >>>the staff at the nursing home.
>>Well, at 17F, I don't really consider bike riding except if the cabin >>fever gets real bad. It was chilly especially into the wind. But >>your conditions sound really awful. The 3 years I lived in Chicago it >>only got bad once or twice.
>That's the one nice thing about the low temps ... they don't last long, and when >temps rise it does feel like a heat wave. Back into the 30s today, but overcast. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >winter. And so far we haven't had any really nasty weather. Time really does >fly. Yes, today was about 50F and it felt okay as I walked to lunch. Upon leaving the restaurant it was blowing and raining for my 10 block walk back - yuck
>>>>Limes are purchased and shrimp is the dinner of choice (G) >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >to do so. So I opted for lean pork, brussel sprouts and baked sweet potato >instead. It was yummy, but not quite as exotic as your tequila shrimp. Hye, tonight's was excellent - I used scallops instead and bit more lime and tequila (G)
Yesterday's leftover half sweet potato is for tomorrow.
>Joyce Joyce - 17 Dec 2003 08:41 GMT >>>>>This weekend has been a BUST. Well, I continued to reorg the >>>>>basement. And mucked with the computer since Roxio's Easy Creator [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >Linux partitions and other operating systems are having similar >problems. Funny how they are always able to blame it on someone/something else, seems to be standard practice for all problems now. Will be interesting to see what they say causes the problem, can't be the program itself because the name says it's EASY. <g>
>>>>>Right now it is chilly, about 40F but the sun is shining so far. More >>>>>showers expected. I will try bike riding if it warms a bit or even if [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] >leaving the restaurant it was blowing and raining for my 10 block walk >back - yuck I ran out to sons car in pj's this morning, needed the mileage to get verification for some needed warranty work. I swear it felt balmy at 8AM - gray and damp, but warm. By 9:30 it was blowing like the devil again, and went right through you - icy chill but temps said 35. Afternoon was 30, but very frigid - I was happy to get back home where it was reasonably warm.
>>>>>Limes are purchased and shrimp is the dinner of choice (G) >>> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >Hye, tonight's was excellent - I used scallops instead and bit more >lime and tequila (G) I guess I'm going to have to break down and buy a bottle of tequilla, huh? Then find a way to keep my kids out of it. <G> Wonder if you can buy those small airline size bottles, would be perfect for this recipe. I love scallops, will probably try the recipe using them.
>Yesterday's leftover half sweet potato is for tomorrow. Now how do you save half a sweet potato? I manage to eat the entire thing, too good to put any away. <G> Maybe I'm buying smaller ones? I will admit though, that lately I have been purchasing huge baking potatoes - hub and I split them and are more than enough for both of us.
Joyce
>>Joyce Brenda Hammond - 17 Dec 2003 14:47 GMT > >>>>>This weekend has been a BUST. Well, I continued to reorg the > >>>>>basement. And mucked with the computer since Roxio's Easy Creator [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > causes the problem, can't be the program itself because the name says it's EASY. > <g> Yeah, but by EASY they meant EASY to screw up your computer, they just don't tell you that!!! (G)
> >>>>>Right now it is chilly, about 40F but the sun is shining so far. More > >>>>>showers expected. I will try bike riding if it warms a bit or even if [quoted text clipped - 62 lines] > > > >>Joyce Joyce - 19 Dec 2003 08:13 GMT >> On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 18:34:12 -0800, Fred <675162.211@compuserve.com> >wrote: [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] >Yeah, but by EASY they meant EASY to screw up your computer, they just don't >tell you that!!! (G) LOL! At least you seem to be keeping your sense of humor in operation. It probably won't get you anywhere, but might help in keeping your sanity.
Joyce
Brenda Hammond - 19 Dec 2003 13:46 GMT > >> On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 18:34:12 -0800, Fred <675162.211@compuserve.com> > >wrote: [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > LOL! At least you seem to be keeping your sense of humor in operation. It > probably won't get you anywhere, but might help in keeping your sanity. I seem to have picked up my sense of humor from my best friend back in highschool, but hers is a little more warped than mine is. At least it used to be.. Now she's a mom of two, and the last few times we saw each other, she wasn't quite the same..... A sense of humor does help me keep my sanity although there are days when I wonder if I am actually sane!
> Joyce Fred - 17 Dec 2003 16:07 GMT
>>>>>>This weekend has been a BUST. Well, I continued to reorg the >>>>>>basement. And mucked with the computer since Roxio's Easy Creator [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] >causes the problem, can't be the program itself because the name says it's EASY. ><g> It would be interesting to hear what they say and today I called Toronto, Canada (Brenda can you translate (G)). Funny, I called an hour after they OPEN. The answering system said to call back when they are open. Yeah, like two minutes three times a day but once a week on alternate Sundays!!! When logging to their web site, it will not accept the ID that is on the disk - INVALID. How very convenient. They are not open and you can't post to their site with the id which is invalid.
>>>>>>Right now it is chilly, about 40F but the sun is shining so far. More >>>>>>showers expected. I will try bike riding if it warms a bit or even if [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] >icy chill but temps said 35. Afternoon was 30, but very frigid - I was happy to >get back home where it was reasonably warm. Maybe some sun here today and tomorrow but then a freeziing level UP for the weekend with rain instead of snow UP there.
>>>>>>Limes are purchased and shrimp is the dinner of choice (G) >>>> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >>Hye, tonight's was excellent - I used scallops instead and bit more >>lime and tequila (G)
>I guess I'm going to have to break down and buy a bottle of tequilla, huh? Then >find a way to keep my kids out of it. <G> Wonder if you can buy those small >airline size bottles, would be perfect for this recipe. I love scallops, will >probably try the recipe using them. Our state liquor stores do sell smaller bottles of some things.
>>Yesterday's leftover half sweet potato is for tomorrow.
>Now how do you save half a sweet potato? I manage to eat the entire thing, too >good to put any away. <G> Maybe I'm buying smaller ones? I will admit though, >that lately I have been purchasing huge baking potatoes - hub and I split them and >are more than enough for both of us. Well, it was the evening after the work luncheon bash and I decided to cut back a bit. No snacks that night either. I did have a skinny cow last night before today's WI! (G)
>Joyce >> >>>Joyce Brenda Hammond - 18 Dec 2003 03:20 GMT > >>>>>>This weekend has been a BUST. Well, I continued to reorg the > >>>>>>basement. And mucked with the computer since Roxio's Easy Creator [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > They are not open and you can't post to their site with the id which > is invalid. Sorry Fred, can't translate this for you! (G) I'm beginning to think EZ CD Creator uses it's own language, probably the same on the people who work there use! Us westerners make more sense!
> >>>>>>Right now it is chilly, about 40F but the sun is shining so far. More > >>>>>>showers expected. I will try bike riding if it warms a bit or even if [quoted text clipped - 70 lines] > >> > >>>Joyce Joyce - 19 Dec 2003 08:37 GMT >>>>So, did you complain and did they give you any solutions? >>> [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >They are not open and you can't post to their site with the id which >is invalid. LOL! I had a similar call Tuesday morning, when phoning for warranty authorization on my sons car. The company opened at 8AM, I called at 8:01 and received the voice system saying to call back during business hours. Hung up and redialed right away, this time being told that all lines were busy and the first available rep would be with me as soon as possible. Geeeeesh, do they only have one line .. how did they fill up in less than a minute? And I love calling computer tech support and being told I can find my answers to my problems on their website. Well dang, if I had computer access would I even be calling? <G>
>>>Yes, today was about 50F and it felt okay as I walked to lunch. Upon >>>leaving the restaurant it was blowing and raining for my 10 block walk [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >Maybe some sun here today and tomorrow but then a freeziing level UP >for the weekend with rain instead of snow UP there. Was sunny here today and did feel a bit warmer ... ah, that lack of wind is a fooler. Temp was actually colder than it has been, was in the mid 20's today. Guess a bit of sunlight and lack of wind changes our perception of temperature.
>>>Hye, tonight's was excellent - I used scallops instead and bit more >>>lime and tequila (G) [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >Our state liquor stores do sell smaller bottles of some things. I did buy a small bottle today, probably won't be enough left over to worry about the kids getting into. <G> And the man at the liquor store says that is the main reason he stocks the mini-bottles ... many people in buying them for baking and cooking, that don't want an entire large bottle of something they don't use often. Wonder why I never thought of it before!
>>>Yesterday's leftover half sweet potato is for tomorrow. > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >cut back a bit. No snacks that night either. I did have a skinny cow >last night before today's WI! (G) I am beginning to swear that the later snacking does show on the scale - probably not a *real* gain or loss ... but temporarily, it is there. I haven't snacked on anything in the evenings the past few nights, other than a little bit of fruit. Stepped on the scale this morning (while gritting what is left of my teeth) and was amazed that it showed me at where I was right around thanksgiving time.
Joyce
Fred - 19 Dec 2003 15:47 GMT
>>>>>So, did you complain and did they give you any solutions? >>>> [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >>They are not open and you can't post to their site with the id which >>is invalid.
>LOL! I had a similar call Tuesday morning, when phoning for warranty >authorization on my sons car. The company opened at 8AM, I called at 8:01 and [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >computer tech support and being told I can find my answers to my problems on their >website. Well dang, if I had computer access would I even be calling? <G> Very good point about not having computer access to fix the computer problem on the web. I will give Roxio a call again in a bit. They should now be open for almost two hours. When I finally do get through I suspect that I will be on hold for a long time. I've also had that call early and they have not taken it off "night" message. Call back and miss the queue!!!
>>>>Yes, today was about 50F and it felt okay as I walked to lunch. Upon >>>>leaving the restaurant it was blowing and raining for my 10 block walk >>>>back - yuck
>>>I ran out to sons car in pj's this morning, needed the mileage to get verification >>>for some needed warranty work. I swear it felt balmy at 8AM - gray and damp, but >>>warm. By 9:30 it was blowing like the devil again, and went right through you - >>>icy chill but temps said 35. Afternoon was 30, but very frigid - I was happy to >>>get back home where it was reasonably warm.
>>Maybe some sun here today and tomorrow but then a freeziing level UP >>for the weekend with rain instead of snow UP there. It was 54 and perfect yesterday (thurs) Today the clouds are moving in and rain for the first half of the weekend.
>Was sunny here today and did feel a bit warmer ... ah, that lack of wind is a >fooler. Temp was actually colder than it has been, was in the mid 20's today. >Guess a bit of sunlight and lack of wind changes our perception of temperature. > >>>>Hye, tonight's was excellent - I used scallops instead and bit more >>>>lime and tequila (G)
>>>I guess I'm going to have to break down and buy a bottle of tequilla, huh? Then >>>find a way to keep my kids out of it. <G> Wonder if you can buy those small >>>airline size bottles, would be perfect for this recipe. I love scallops, will >>>probably try the recipe using them.
>>Our state liquor stores do sell smaller bottles of some things.
>I did buy a small bottle today, probably won't be enough left over to worry about >the kids getting into. <G> And the man at the liquor store says that is the main >reason he stocks the mini-bottles ... many people in buying them for baking and >cooking, that don't want an entire large bottle of something they don't use often. >Wonder why I never thought of it before! Nor much to just sample either (G) I still have two more limes and lots of tequila.
>>>>Yesterday's leftover half sweet potato is for tomorrow. >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >>cut back a bit. No snacks that night either. I did have a skinny cow >>last night before today's WI! (G)
>I am beginning to swear that the later snacking does show on the scale - probably >not a *real* gain or loss ... but temporarily, it is there. I haven't snacked on >anything in the evenings the past few nights, other than a little bit of fruit. >Stepped on the scale this morning (while gritting what is left of my teeth) and >was amazed that it showed me at where I was right around thanksgiving time. Well, yesterday the scale at home saw its lowest value yet - 155.5 but I don't understand it at all. As it was down 2.5 from the day before. Oh, well. No WI for two weeks - well, no OFFICIAL WI.
>Joyce Fred - 19 Dec 2003 19:28 GMT I will have to admit that I did finally get through. And the only time I was placed on hold was when I asked CUSTOMER Support (get my disc ID confirmed) about the Technical Issue that I needed that ID for. He placed me on hold to ask Tech Supp the quickie since otherwise it costs $35.00. He said they are aware of the Partition Problem and working on a fix or patch.
I would imagine with all the problems I've read about, they are making a killing on that $35.00 fee per call!!!!!!!!!
He was pleasant and helpful as far as he could go.
>>>>>>So, did you complain and did they give you any solutions? >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 97 lines] > >>Joyce Joyce - 27 Dec 2003 09:05 GMT Ahhhhh, that's another one of my big gripes with customer service/technical support now. Why the heck should we have to pay for the pleasure of being able to get their product running properly?
Joyce
>I will have to admit that I did finally get through. And the only >time I was placed on hold was when I asked CUSTOMER Support (get my [quoted text clipped - 109 lines] >> >>>Joyce Fred - 27 Dec 2003 23:56 GMT Yup, that is pretty damn irritating and folks have been complaining because the advice is the same script they give everyone. Uninstall, oh, you did that, well then reformat the harddisk and reinstall the operating system that will be $100.00, please..... (interrupted by the tea kettle whistling and then an entire SKI TRIP (G))
Home again, now. Great trip so who cares about computer woes for another 10 minutes while the bathroom heats up......
>Ahhhhh, that's another one of my big gripes with customer service/technical >support now. Why the heck should we have to pay for the pleasure of being able to [quoted text clipped - 115 lines] >>> >>>>Joyce Joyce - 29 Dec 2003 02:12 GMT Oh yeah, and it's always wonderful to be charged by the minute while they have you climbing underneath the desk trying to change connections that you have already changed - but they insist you have to do it again or they can't go on to the next possible step. Definitely reading straight from a book.
Glad you had a wonderful ski trip! Once again, I got no formal exercise in today ... other than frequent trips up and down the basement stairs doing laundry.
Joyce
>Yup, that is pretty damn irritating and folks have been complaining >because the advice is the same script they give everyone. Uninstall, [quoted text clipped - 124 lines] >>>> >>>>>Joyce Fred - 29 Dec 2003 04:16 GMT
>Oh yeah, and it's always wonderful to be charged by the minute while they have you >climbing underneath the desk trying to change connections that you have already >changed - but they insist you have to do it again or they can't go on to the next >possible step. Definitely reading straight from a book.
>Glad you had a wonderful ski trip! Once again, I got no formal exercise in today >... other than frequent trips up and down the basement stairs doing laundry. And today was another chilly bike ride - to REI for some small items for skiing and a CHUM to hold my bike glasses around my neck while biking.
I got a lot of exercise in but I don't seem to see any of it on the scale - which is scary since it may mean I am eating too much.
>Joyce > [quoted text clipped - 126 lines] >>>>> >>>>>>Joyce Joyce - 03 Jan 2004 09:08 GMT >>Oh yeah, and it's always wonderful to be charged by the minute while they have you >>climbing underneath the desk trying to change connections that you have already [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >I got a lot of exercise in but I don't seem to see any of it on the >scale - which is scary since it may mean I am eating too much. Could also just be that body taking a short break again, and readjusting. You know I've fallen off the exercise track, and I fully expect to not see any changes on the scale as I start back up. Past history has done this to me, and I also recall reading the same thing. Exercise will build muscle and cause water retention - takes time for actual results to show on a scale, yet results do show other places such as clothing fitting much better or looser.
I've seen your weigh in results posted and highly doubt that you are eating too much. <g>
Joyce
Fred - 05 Jan 2004 02:34 GMT
>>>Oh yeah, and it's always wonderful to be charged by the minute while they have you >>>climbing underneath the desk trying to change connections that you have already [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >>I got a lot of exercise in but I don't seem to see any of it on the >>scale - which is scary since it may mean I am eating too much.
>Could also just be that body taking a short break again, and readjusting. You >know I've fallen off the exercise track, and I fully expect to not see any changes >on the scale as I start back up. Past history has done this to me, and I also >recall reading the same thing. Exercise will build muscle and cause water >retention - takes time for actual results to show on a scale, yet results do show >other places such as clothing fitting much better or looser. Maybe. I think I will either see results or not over this next week. Three more days of pretty intense skiing in very frigid temps (today it was 10F) but my friend has done a good job of providing foods that so tempted me. She made lots of cookies and I sampled them. She also found Stilton with apricots - very interesting. Water retention to help VERY SORE muscles is a definite possibility. Boy, oh, boy. Thighs, neck and arms.
>I've seen your weigh in results posted and highly doubt that you are eating too >much. <g> I am not controlling it as well as I should even if one could say I'm not eating too much. Just eating and eating.
>Joyce Gaye Worcester - 05 Jan 2004 06:59 GMT Joyce - 05 Jan 2004 08:52 GMT >>>>Oh yeah, and it's always wonderful to be charged by the minute while they have you >>>>climbing underneath the desk trying to change connections that you have already [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > >Maybe. I think I will either see results or not over this next week. LOL! I love that statement. I see my wishy-washyness appearing in many of the group lately. <G> But it has been my mantra lately, in many things ... either it will or it won't.
>Three more days of pretty intense skiing in very frigid temps (today >it was 10F) but my friend has done a good job of providing foods that >so tempted me. She made lots of cookies and I sampled them. She also >found Stilton with apricots - very interesting. Water retention to >help VERY SORE muscles is a definite possibility. Boy, oh, boy. >Thighs, neck and arms. Yikes. I'd rather hole up inside, under a blanket. I am not a cold weather person. I love the outdoors ... when it is warm! Heck, I can't get warm in my house, let alone even think about trying to do it in 10F temps.
>>I've seen your weigh in results posted and highly doubt that you are eating too >>much. <g> > >I am not controlling it as well as I should even if one could say I'm >not eating too much. Just eating and eating. Hmmmm, seems that is where I have been. Overall, I don't think I have eaten a lot ... quantity wise. But I feel like I have been continuousy *picking*.
Joyce
Fred - 06 Jan 2004 01:59 GMT
>>>>>Oh yeah, and it's always wonderful to be charged by the minute while they have you >>>>>climbing underneath the desk trying to change connections that you have already [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] >group lately. <G> But it has been my mantra lately, in many things ... either it >will or it won't. Oh, is this like the flu - WishyWashy Type A! Contagious in newsgroups.
>>Three more days of pretty intense skiing in very frigid temps (today >>it was 10F) but my friend has done a good job of providing foods that [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >person. I love the outdoors ... when it is warm! Heck, I can't get warm in my >house, let alone even think about trying to do it in 10F temps. Seattle was really cold today and I was not dressed as I was for skiing so it really did feel cold. Plus, the humidity in Eastern Washington is much lower and it did not feel as cold. When I left yesterday is was still Minus 7F. Today it was down to Minus 21F. I hope she had enough wood chopped (G)
>>>I've seen your weigh in results posted and highly doubt that you are eating too >>>much. <g> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >Hmmmm, seems that is where I have been. Overall, I don't think I have eaten a lot >... quantity wise. But I feel like I have been continuousy *picking*. yes, that describes it well.
>Joyce Joyce - 08 Jan 2004 07:21 GMT >>>Three more days of pretty intense skiing in very frigid temps (today >>>it was 10F) but my friend has done a good job of providing foods that [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >yesterday is was still Minus 7F. Today it was down to Minus 21F. I >hope she had enough wood chopped (G) Are those negative temps wind chill temps, or actual temps? I can't begin to imagine -21! Brrrrrrrrrrrr! -3 was bad enough the other morning. Hub took pity on me, came home yesterday with 2 pairs of heavy, heavy outdoor type socks. Now, you have to realize I am a barefoot type of person ... but I put a pair on this morning and I love these things! My feet have been toasty all day long, such a luxury! LOL
>>>>I've seen your weigh in results posted and highly doubt that you are eating too >>>>much. <g> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >yes, that describes it well. I've been better this week, at least am picking on fruit instead of chocolate. <g>
Joyce
Fred - 08 Jan 2004 14:49 GMT
>>>>Three more days of pretty intense skiing in very frigid temps (today >>>>it was 10F) but my friend has done a good job of providing foods that [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >>yesterday is was still Minus 7F. Today it was down to Minus 21F. I >>hope she had enough wood chopped (G)
>Are those negative temps wind chill temps, or actual temps? I can't begin to >imagine -21! Brrrrrrrrrrrr! -3 was bad enough the other morning. Hub took pity >on me, came home yesterday with 2 pairs of heavy, heavy outdoor type socks. Now, >you have to realize I am a barefoot type of person ... but I put a pair on this >morning and I love these things! My feet have been toasty all day long, such a >luxury! LOL Those were the temps without calculating windchill. And there was a breeze so I don't know how cold that made it appear.
>>>>>I've seen your weigh in results posted and highly doubt that you are eating too >>>>>much. <g> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >I've been better this week, at least am picking on fruit instead of chocolate. <g> I was doing okay, till yesterday. Too many meringues and dried mango. It is the snacking
>Joyce Joyce - 08 Jan 2004 15:39 GMT >>>Seattle was really cold today and I was not dressed as I was for >>>skiing so it really did feel cold. Plus, the humidity in Eastern [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >Those were the temps without calculating windchill. And there was a >breeze so I don't know how cold that made it appear. Recent discussion here at home ... when did the newscasters start speaking in *wind-chill* temp mode? I don't seem to ever remember these figures from when I was growing up, the temp was the temp, period. You knew it was cold, didn't need to know much more than that. I tend to still think in just straight temperature mode, don't figure those windchills.
>>>>>>I've seen your weigh in results posted and highly doubt that you are eating too >>>>>>much. <g> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >I was doing okay, till yesterday. Too many meringues and dried mango. >It is the snacking LOL - I think you are having female hormonal eating swings. <G> I still can't find the dried mango at Trader Joe's (boohoo for me), but munching was better under control yesterday. What the heck causes these picking phases?
Joyce
Fred - 09 Jan 2004 02:40 GMT
>>>>Seattle was really cold today and I was not dressed as I was for >>>>skiing so it really did feel cold. Plus, the humidity in Eastern [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >to know much more than that. I tend to still think in just straight temperature >mode, don't figure those windchills. Well, Windchill is a real factor in frostbite - the cooling effect of wind, hastens the loss of moisture which tends to cool more (evaporative cooling) and so scientists devised a method of figuring out what it was "worth" with breezes added to real cold temps. Altho, I don't recall the details but either last year or the year before, they did revise the method somewhat but I don't recall if it lowered or raised the values calculated.
>>>>>>>I've seen your weigh in results posted and highly doubt that you are eating too >>>>>>>much. <g> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >find the dried mango at Trader Joe's (boohoo for me), but munching was better >under control yesterday. What the heck causes these picking phases? Ah, my female side is showing - in my maternal stomach!!!! (G)
Boredom more than likely. I don't think I'm depressed but maybe I miss that great weekend of skiing............ in frigid temps (G)
>Joyce Joyce - 09 Jan 2004 18:00 GMT >>>>>Seattle was really cold today and I was not dressed as I was for >>>>>skiing so it really did feel cold. Plus, the humidity in Eastern [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] >they did revise the method somewhat but I don't recall if it lowered >or raised the values calculated. Thanks for the explanation! So this new measurement would really be helpful for those that are exposed to the elements for longer periods of time ... whether hiking, skiing or everyday work that requires special precautions for the weather conditions. I probably should pay more attention to it then, considering hub is outside much of the time. <G>
>>>>>>>>I've seen your weigh in results posted and highly doubt that you are eating too >>>>>>>>much. <g> [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >Boredom more than likely. I don't think I'm depressed but maybe I >miss that great weekend of skiing............ in frigid temps (G) Depression is definitely not the issue for me ... can't eat when depressed or upset. Last night proved that fact. Had some problems that caused me to hit a low that I haven't felt in quite some time (TOM didn't help at all). Had to fix dinner for the fam, ate a little bit but nowhere near normal and didn't have a thing for the rest of the night.
I can believe you may have missed the skiing - but will never buy that you missed those temps!
Joyce
Fred - 09 Jan 2004 18:13 GMT Yup. That's why they came up with the system - to account for how the wind magnifies the chilling effects.
>>>>>>Seattle was really cold today and I was not dressed as I was for >>>>>>skiing so it really did feel cold. Plus, the humidity in Eastern [quoted text clipped - 67 lines] > >Joyce Fred - 09 Jan 2004 18:14 GMT The snow is almost all gone - and the sun is making a brief showing. 43F
And the snow in the mountains is going to get messed up and the avalanche danger HIGH!!!!
>>>>>>Seattle was really cold today and I was not dressed as I was for >>>>>>skiing so it really did feel cold. Plus, the humidity in Eastern [quoted text clipped - 67 lines] > >Joyce Joyce - 09 Jan 2004 18:47 GMT Oh no, so that means your skiing days are now numbered? Please stay out of the mountains ... we don't need or want to lose you in an avalanche.
I'd like to see those 43 temps though, would thaw out some of that ice in the driveway and on the stairs. Today we had some light flurries, just enough to cover the ice ... light fluffy dry stuff. So of course, walking across the driveway I slid into the truck and whacked my elbow good. Sonny boy came home, stepped out of his car and took a spill in the driveway. I told him to watch the ice ... after I found him lying on the ground. <G>
Joyce
>The snow is almost all gone - and the sun is making a brief showing. >43F [quoted text clipped - 73 lines] >> >>Joyce Fred - 09 Jan 2004 20:40 GMT I got in a quick lunch hour bike ride. It is not 48F but cloudy and very humid.
Nice warning there, mom! Hope you both are okay.
I try to avoid avalanches - I do have a beacon but generally that really serves to find the BODY!
>Oh no, so that means your skiing days are now numbered? Please stay out of the >mountains ... we don't need or want to lose you in an avalanche. [quoted text clipped - 85 lines] >>> >>>Joyce Joyce - 15 Jan 2004 06:48 GMT we had a good thaw for a few days then cold temps came back, and for some reason I have been so danged tired. I get daughter off to school and crawl back to the couch. Excuses for not hitting the treadmill ... again. <sigh>
Ya like my warning, huh? <grin> Sonny boy just mumbled something about how wonderful it is to be coming home to a bunch of smartasses. At least the ice is totally gone from the steps and driveway now ... should aid in preventing further tumbles. But with the thaw over the week-end, came a little fender bender. Hub and I were out, managed to get ourselves rear ended ... INSIDE a car wash. LOL! Ya just gotta wonder about the woman who drives through instead of letting her car be pulled along ... as the sign tells you ... then comes out and asks *what happened* (after they had to aid her in getting her car back onto the rack pulley system she was supposed to be on). Once again, sense of humor helps a lot in these situations.
Joyce
>I got in a quick lunch hour bike ride. It is not 48F but cloudy and >very humid. [quoted text clipped - 93 lines] >>>> >>>>Joyce Fred - 15 Jan 2004 15:02 GMT
>we had a good thaw for a few days then cold temps came back, and for some reason I >have been so danged tired. I get daughter off to school and crawl back to the >couch. Excuses for not hitting the treadmill ... again. <sigh> I think it the post holiday letdown and WINTER in general. You'll get back on TRACK as opposed to the woman below.
>Ya like my warning, huh? <grin> Sonny boy just mumbled something about how >wonderful it is to be coming home to a bunch of smartasses. At least the ice is [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >system she was supposed to be on). Once again, sense of humor helps a lot in >these situations. Well, it sounds as if no one was hurt in these various bumps. Glad you are partially thawed as opposed to those are the far east coast.
>Joyce
>>I got in a quick lunch hour bike ride. It is not 48F but cloudy and >>very humid.
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