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Teri - 18 Feb 2007 15:58 GMT
I've been thinking that in order for me to increase my chances of success on
ww - meal planning might be in order... especially for dinner.  I'm going to
make a zero point soup (i should find some if I google) but will need to
think out dinner plans. I'm fine with making salad to go along with
everything ... i love salad and in the one meeting I went to, the leader
offered 1/4c any mustard but yellow, w/ 1/4c any vinegar and 1/4 c water
plus splenda as a zero point tasty dressing.  How do you go about planning
meals ... is there a cookbook which gives point values etc?  Thanks!
Teri
Stormmee - 18 Feb 2007 17:20 GMT
some people sit down and figure their menu before they shop.  DH and I go
shopping with a list of items we might like to eat, then we shop the sales,
then when we get it all home and put away we make a list of what we have in
the freezer, we only plan for that days dinner.  there are others here who
do it on a weekly basis, Lee
> I've been thinking that in order for me to increase my chances of success on
> ww - meal planning might be in order... especially for dinner.  I'm going to
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> meals ... is there a cookbook which gives point values etc?  Thanks!
> Teri
Laura - 18 Feb 2007 18:52 GMT
I do better with WW when I make out a menu for the week right before I go
food shopping. I aim for beef/chicken/pork plus rice/potato plus steamed
veggie for as many nights as I can get away with. DH & DD rebel if I do it
for too many nights. The other nights I fill in with lower calorie dishes
that are simple to make. DH does the dinner cooking. We had canned beef stew
the other night (4pts per cup) over ww bread (toasted) 1pt per 2 slices plus
a side of green beans. 5 pts for the whole dinner. If DH & DD want something
I don't want then I find a substitute for myself. DD wants lasgne this week.
I got 2 indiv serving stoffers for them and a WW version for myself. I keep
eggs/egg beaters, frozen fish, low cal soup on hand just in case.

The only cookbooks that I know of that have the points listed would be WW
cookbook. You should be able to find receipes on the ww website.

> I've been thinking that in order for me to increase my chances of success
> on ww - meal planning might be in order... especially for dinner.  I'm
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> Thanks!
> Teri
Gary G - 18 Feb 2007 22:31 GMT
I also shop for what I like and know is healthy...Funny how much reading I
now do in comparison to the past...The big number that often fools you is
"servings per package"...I will often make a pot roast and bake some chicken
thighs and make a brown whole grains dish as well as buying salad
makings...Most everything has the necessary info to figure points based on
weighing and measuring your portions...You family can eat the same as you as
long as you portion yourself out...Certainly you can buy meats and assorted
side dishes based on sound healthy and tasty foods...It might be interesting
to purchase one of the frozen so called healthy dinners just to picture in
your mind what a dinner should really look like...Most run around 300 or so
calories a meal...In time the weighing and measuring become second nature
and you can eyeball things...3 or 4 ounces of meat is not really that much
in the beginning but in time your mind readjusts and you just naturally eat
"normally"...If it were all so simple...Well at least for now it is working
for me...GG
>I do better with WW when I make out a menu for the week right before I go
>food shopping. I aim for beef/chicken/pork plus rice/potato plus steamed
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>> Thanks!
>> Teri
Laura - 18 Feb 2007 23:18 GMT
Very true. I started with dinner portions of 5-7 oz. I thought that was
normal. I'm now down to 3-4 oz and am very comfortable with that amount. I
have increased the amount of veggies on my plate to help fill me up.

>I also shop for what I like and know is healthy...Funny how much reading I
>now do in comparison to the past...The big number that often fools you is
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>>> which gives point values etc? Thanks!
>>> Teri
ahmward - 18 Feb 2007 23:07 GMT
> I've been thinking that in order for me to increase my chances of
> success on ww - meal planning might be in order... especially for
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> which gives point values etc?  Thanks!
> Teri
I plan all of my meals and usually do 3-4 at a time depending on what's
going on during the week.  For salad dressing I use flavored vinegars.
My current one is Trader Joe's pomegranate vinegar which has a touch of
sweetness but just 10 calories for a tablespoon.  There are tons of
other tasty dressings especially the ones that spritz on for one point a
spritz.  The more variety you have, the better your chances of being
successful. I often have a salad for lunch but today I had a 1 pt.
Thomas English muffin with 1/2 piece of garlic herb laughing cow cheese
spread on each half and 3 ounces leftover roast turkey breast on top.
The points total for that was 5 and I had it with carrots, diet Hansen's
ginger ale and 0 point cranberry jello for dessert.

For dinner tonight I am having a  grilled lean pork chop that has been
in a brine since Thursday.  With it I am having a roasted golden beet
salad, fresh turnips cooked with seasonings and a bit of panko bread
crumbs and roasted asparagus.  I usually have salads but sometimes use a
veggie like the beets as a substitute.  Other dinner choices this week
will be turkey burgers spiced up with salsa and a bit of taco seasoning,
roast chicken and perhaps sausage for tomorrow.  We are going away
Thursday through Sunday so that's why I am planning the four nights
through Wednesday.  Costco has the nice big WW cookbook with lots of
recipes for just $17.99.  It is a three ring binder and has so many
options, you'll have meal ideas for more than a month.

Audrey
Drachen - 19 Feb 2007 04:12 GMT
what I've been doing, because its just my son and I, and he needs lunches
for school, I make one large dinner thing on sunday, lasagna, stew,
cassarole, thick soup etc... and calculate all the points in one serving
*usually two cups for the containers I have* and freeze them... that way I
know the points and can just add a salad or veggies or something else to go
along with it like a sandwich etc...

I like freezing things, and I do the large meal after i've eaten in the
evenings, and have only a half amount as a snack... *awesomeself control
there* but then its easy to just grab something from the freezer when your
son is gone to school and you don't want to make a huge meal...

which is a lot worse for myself... particularily working from home...

I've also gotten into the habit of purchasing fruit platters and veggie
platters from the store and keeping them in the fridge for whenI do that...
lets just look in the fridge cause I feel like snakin but I'm not hungry
cause I'm going to bed in 15 minutes ... thing...

we've all done that...

heh...

> I've been thinking that in order for me to increase my chances of success on
> ww - meal planning might be in order... especially for dinner.  I'm going to
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> meals ... is there a cookbook which gives point values etc?  Thanks!
> Teri
Stormmee - 19 Feb 2007 04:22 GMT
freezing portions so works for us... we make some dishes that we portion.
Like you said lasagna, roast, and chili and soup.  If DH feels like cooking
good.  I rarely do so I won't even pretend I do it occasionally.  If he
doesn't feel like cooking or I am here alone I get something from the
freezer or we heat from there.  The added benefit is that if I want stuffed
green peppers he can have lasagna and we have the same vegetable.  Lee
> what I've been doing, because its just my son and I, and he needs lunches
> for school, I make one large dinner thing on sunday, lasagna, stew,
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> > meals ... is there a cookbook which gives point values etc?  Thanks!
> > Teri
Drachen - 19 Feb 2007 13:23 GMT
Oooooooooohhhh... I never even thought about making stuffed green peppers
and freezing them... that would be awesome...

I use to cook a lot when there was more people involved, my ex and I would
entertain a lot during the weekends, and he still does, *hense why I've been
losing weight and he hasn't... hee*

but I'm putting stuffed peppers ingredients on my list of things to purchase
this week!!!

> freezing portions so works for us... we make some dishes that we portion.
> Like you said lasagna, roast, and chili and soup.  If DH feels like cooking
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> > > meals ... is there a cookbook which gives point values etc?  Thanks!
> > > Teri
Stormmee - 19 Feb 2007 14:11 GMT
and you can either go ahead and cook them or just make them up and cook when
you want they frees either way if you blanch the pepper before you freeze.
Lee, who's wonderful sister made them for her.
> Oooooooooohhhh... I never even thought about making stuffed green peppers
> and freezing them... that would be awesome...
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> > > > meals ... is there a cookbook which gives point values etc?  Thanks!
> > > > Teri
Teri - 21 Feb 2007 12:38 GMT
> what I've been doing, because its just my son and I, and he needs lunches
> for school, I make one large dinner thing on sunday, lasagna, stew,
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>
> heh...

Do you calculate the points for each individual ingredient and then divide
by the number of portions? I'm really going to have to invest in a scale if
I'm committed to this. I've been measuring but when foods are given points
by weight, I'm eyeballing it --- and that might've contributed to where I am
today :-)
Teri
Laura - 21 Feb 2007 13:04 GMT
>> what I've been doing, because its just my son and I, and he needs lunches
>> for school, I make one large dinner thing on sunday, lasagna, stew,
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> points by weight, I'm eyeballing it --- and that might've contributed to
> where I am today :-)

When you are making a dish the ww books say to add up the calories/fat/fiber
of the entire dish. Calculate the points for the entire dish and then divide
by the number of servings. Because of the cap (4) on fiber this does not
yield an accurate point number on something that is high in fiber.

My leader says to divide the totals by the number of servings and calculate
the points per portion that way. This allocates the fiber grams across all
servings which is fairer.
Stormmee - 21 Feb 2007 13:06 GMT
this is how we do it, Lee

> >> what I've been doing, because its just my son and I, and he needs lunches
> >> for school, I make one large dinner thing on sunday, lasagna, stew,
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> the points per portion that way. This allocates the fiber grams across all
> servings which is fairer.
Stormmee - 21 Feb 2007 13:05 GMT
My scale, and I have the old WW one is my second best friend on this
journey, DH is first, Lee

> > what I've been doing, because its just my son and I, and he needs lunches
> > for school, I make one large dinner thing on sunday, lasagna, stew,
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> today :-)
> Teri
Drachen - 21 Feb 2007 13:37 GMT
Yup, that is what I've done... *darn that "who needs math when I grow up
anyway 12 yr old mentality... heh*

my son was on a ketogenic diet a few years back for his seizures and
everything had to be weighed out precisely or he would have seizures... its
a neat diet... we had complications but it does work... but I digress... my
mom purchased me an official weight watchers scale which the nutritionist
recommended and I use that for measuring my ingredients...

I highly recommend having a scale like that regardless if you are on a diet
or not...

I measure out everything now, and I think I'm getting pretty good at
figuring out portions when I go to eat out in a restaraunt, which I do
weekly, so its easy to figure out my points there.

I also go to fancier restaraunts where they focus more on flavour than on
how many fries can we fit on a plate... it might be a tad more expensive...
well... not too much more... but they have more human like portions...

so yeah... invest in a scale... you'll likely notice that you've been
eating some things very wrong... and this way when you do get extra nummy
things like cheese and crackers, the individual portions are not nearly as
large as you once thought... but you can measure out individual servings and
put them in a ziplock baggie in the fridge for a snacky when the mood hits
you... and you know, 4 points for this snack... without having to reweigh
and go through the trouble of taking out the scale...

anyways... I'm rambling...

must go feed my critters... aka puppy and my son...

> > what I've been doing, because its just my son and I, and he needs lunches
> > for school, I make one large dinner thing on sunday, lasagna, stew,
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> today :-)
> Teri
Teri - 21 Feb 2007 14:09 GMT
> Yup, that is what I've done... *darn that "who needs math when I grow up
> anyway 12 yr old mentality... heh*
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>
> must go feed my critters... aka puppy and my son...

Wow! 4 point snacks ... i've been trying to look for 0 or 1 point snacks and
instead found I ate 5 rice cakes for 5 points .... in hindsight, cheese and
crackers for 4 points would probably have been more satisfying.
Teri
Laura - 21 Feb 2007 14:15 GMT
>> Yup, that is what I've done... *darn that "who needs math when I grow up
>> anyway 12 yr old mentality... heh*
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> and instead found I ate 5 rice cakes for 5 points .... in hindsight,
> cheese and crackers for 4 points would probably have been more satisfying.

If you like cheese and crackers for a snack, look for the Laughing cow Light
semi-soft cheese wedges. 1 point per triangle (1oz). Spread on a 1pt english
muffin or some wasa crackers for 2pts total. Or on celery for 1pt total. A
protein snack might keep you satisfied longer. Carby snacks tend to make me
more hungry because it sets off cravings.
Drachen - 21 Feb 2007 17:31 GMT
I found that the one serving of crackers *I like various types, but only
take a 2 point serving* and cheese is quite satifying...

I like to have protiens in my snacky time... keeps my tummy busy for longer
as it takes longer for the digestion of meats vs fruits...

and I'm currently at 35 points for my allowed daily, which has been hard to
keep up once you get use to watching everything you eat... heh...

so a couple of four point snacks isn't that big of a deal...

I've heard about that laughing cow cheese and I've only heard good things
about it!... also there are some 0 point cheese slices available... at least
at one of the stores I went to... I checked on my little measuring fibre/fat
scale... and lo and behold, 0 points... and I use a one point peice of bread
with tomatoes and cheese slices, and viola, nice 2 point snack sandwich...

but i'm off to have an egg salad sandwich now...

> > Yup, that is what I've done... *darn that "who needs math when I grow up
> > anyway 12 yr old mentality... heh*
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> crackers for 4 points would probably have been more satisfying.
> Teri
Kate XXXXXX - 27 Feb 2007 23:41 GMT
> I've been thinking that in order for me to increase my chances of success on
> ww - meal planning might be in order... especially for dinner.  I'm going to
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> meals ... is there a cookbook which gives point values etc?  Thanks!
> Teri

A lot of the WW own cook books have both points and recipes for the No
count version of WW.  I often plan using the cook books for inspiration.

I tend to plan lunches and dinners for a week or 10 days in advance, and
DH does the shopping.  That way far fewer stray items find their way
into the fridge (and then into me!), and we waste a lot less food.  In
cold weather I rely a lot on the zero point soups and low point soups
like leek & potato soup for lunches and late night snacks: somehow
vegetable soup, all hot and yummy, is much more filling and satisfying
in the cold than salad!  But I do serve salad several days a week with
the dinner.

We also keep lots of fresh fruit about for nibbling and to use for
deserts in place of cheesecake and other fatty puds.  I'm very canny, as
we say in parts of the UK: I'll plan a week's menu round the roast
chicken we might have for Sunday dinner.  Here's this week as an example:

Sunday:
Roast chicken with gravy (3 points)
WW dry roast potatoes (2 points)
Steamed vegetables () points)

We often follow it with something like my apple crumble (with my low fat
bread and oat crumble topping, 3 points a serving) served with half fat
creme fraiche.  This Sunday we had home made mango kulfi, made when I
realized we had eight pints of semi-skimmed milk in the fridge and more
was due the next day!  The Kulfi works out at one and a half points a
portion.

Monday:
School parents evening: Son & I ate out.  I had a jacket potato with
prawns and salad, and a bucket of skinny latte.  I worked it out as five
and a half points.

Tuesday (today):
Had a friend in.  Used some of the left over chook with the left over
gravy to make a chicken version of my shepherd's pie (about 3 points
worth of cold chicken, minced, and mixed with the gravy and 3 minced
carrots, a minced stick of celery, and a minced onion, topped with
cheesy mash made with 50g of reduced fat cheese - it worked out at a
HUGE portion for about 4 points!), served with cabbage sauted in a
teaspoonful of olive oil, along with garlic, onion and caraway seeds.
We followed it with fresh fruit.

Wednesday: hubby will be home.
Steamed salmon fillet with new potatoes, carrots and broccoli, followed
by fresh fruit.  Total 5-6.5, depending on a choice of apple or banana.

Thursday:  WW day!  I weigh in at about 7pm. and eat after the meeting.
Blamanger of Chicken (a mediaeval recipe I have adapted to WW, made with
cold chicken reheated with rice cooked with almonds), salad, and fresh
fruit.  Total, probably about 8 points: this is a high one for me!

Friday:  Swimming day!  Again, I eat late after swimming in the evening:
ladies night at the pool - we get an hour to ourselves, with none of
those hairy things with dangly bits!  ;)
Chicken and leek and potato soup, made with stock from the chicken
bones, and any remaining scraps of meat.  There will be enough for four
of us for dinner, and the three of us for Saturday's lunch.  :)  I may
make some home made bread rolls to go with it, just for a treat!  Two
rolls and a big bowl of soup add up to six points.  We'll follow the
soup with something like Muller Light Yoghurt (1.5 points) or more fresh
fruit.

Saturday:  we're often out during the day, so I plan to dig some turkey
mince chilli made a few weeks ago out of the freezer.  I think this one
worked out at 3 points a serving, plus 3 points for brown rice.

Lunches are usually zero point butternut squash or carrot and coriander
soup, or sometimes I'll do a Chinese style spiced vegetable soup, or a
courgette and celery soup, all of which are zero points, thick enough to
dance on, and seriously yummy!  I serve it with a couple of slices of
fresh bread: fresh enough it doesn't need butter with it!  :)

I don't usually worry about saving points on salad dressings: I just use
them sparingly or not at all, and count it when I have them.  But I do
make my own, so working out the points is easy, and a serving of my home
made vinegrette is usually about half a point.

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