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Weight Loss Forum / WeightWatchers / April 2007Hostess light cupcakes
From: "Laura" <invalid@sample.invalid> Subject: Re: Diet in (semi) crisis - Calories, Exercise, Points and what to do now... Date: Friday, April 20, 2007 4:05 PM <the.hylander05@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1177105114.572472.282350@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com... > On Apr 14, 4:32 am, Kate XXXXXX <k...@diceyhome.free-online.co.uk> > wrote: >> doug lerner wrote: >> > I honestly don't understand what's happening anymore. I swear I'm >> > not >> > doing anything differenly than I've been doing these past 680 days, >> > but my weight is just creeping up... >> >> > After my Core experiment, when weight zoomed up from 81 kg to like >> > 84.8, it started coming down again, slowly, when I went back to >> > strict >> > calorie counting. >> >> > But then it hovered at 84.4 for a couple of weeks and for some >> > reason >> > this morning jumped to 85.8 kg! >> >> > What is happening? >> >> > I am not sure what to try at this point. Naturally, no matter what >> > I >> > do, I will not exceed my daily calorie limit of 1700, but I feel I >> > need to change something already. >> >> > This is getting very depressing. >> >> > The problem is that I might simply need to eat fewer calories per >> > day. >> > Like maybe 1300 or 1400 instead of 1700. Maybe my metabolism has >> > just >> > slowed down. >> >> > But I feel like a big change in calorie rules would be "setting me >> > up >> > for a big fall" if I suddenly tried even harder calorie >> > restrictions. >> >> > Nevertheless, looking at what WW would allocate to me, point-wise, >> > it >> > came to just 28 points/day (which I calculated during my free >> > one-week >> > online trial). That is about 1400 calories/day. Of course WW has >> > those >> > 35 free points per week, which comes to about 1750 calories, >> > whereas I >> > am giving myself just 1000. >> >> > Mammoth amounts of exercise per day are also just not realistic. I >> > know me. If I do 30 minutes to an hour of walking a day I feel I've >> > done well. >> >> > Any diet plan has to be something that can be reasonably followed - >> > forever. If it is too cumbersome, then I know I would fall off the >> > wagon. >> >> > Speaking of exercise, WW also calculates exercise points >> > differently >> > than I do. I have been giving myself full calorie credit for all >> > exercise and deducting exercise calories from calories I've eaten - >> > and have allowed myself to carry this over all week, until I reset. >> > I >> > believe in WW you have to "use them or lose them" the day you do >> > your >> > exercise, right? Also, I don't think WW gives you full credit >> > towards >> > eating points for the exercise you do - doesn't come to like half, >> > calorie-wise? >> >> > Anyway, conservation of energy is conservation of energy. It's >> > either >> > less calories and/or more exercise. I know it. But I don't know if >> > I >> > really have the will power to make a radical change in a plan I've >> > been able to stay on so long now without going off even one time... >> >> > So I'm up against reality. >> >> > But... it is definitely time for a diet tweak of some kind... >> >> > doug >> >> Doug, presuming that you are sitting most of the day in the office, >> on >> the UK system you'd be on 28 points per day only: NO flex points on >> our >> system! Then you can earn as many exercise points as you like in the >> week, but you may only consume 14 of them: the rest go down to weight >> loss. And you can consume those points at any time in the week, not >> just on the day you earn them, so you can save them up for a party or >> meal out if you like! :) >> >> -- >> Kate XXXXXX R.C.T.Q Madame Chef des Trolls >> Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate >> Buttonshttp://www.katedicey.co.uk >> Click on Kate's Pages and explore! > > Quick question: does anybody here know how many ww points the hostess > 100 calorie packs are? I believe they are 2 points. BTW, a general rule of thumb is 1 point per 50 calories. Here is the exact formula: points= [calories + (4 * fat grams) - (10 * fiber grams)] / 50 with a maxium of 4 fiber grams allowed. Check the product information for these 100 calorie packs. My WW friend says the chocolate ones have more fiber, and are just 1 point per package! Audrey > From: "Laura" <invalid@sample.invalid> > Subject: Re: Diet in (semi) crisis - Calories, Exercise, Points and what [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > Check the product information for these 100 calorie packs. My WW friend > says the chocolate ones have more fiber, and are just 1 point per package! You are correct. I had the Golden ones here but not the chocolate. I googled "hostess cupcakes" and found the NI online. Chocolate: 100 cal/3g fat/5g fiber = 1.4 points===>1 pt Golden: 100 cal/3g fat/3g fiber = 1.6 points===>2 pt Carrot Cake: 100 cal/3g fat/3g fiber = 1.6 points===>2 pt I kinda wish you hadn't posted this... not a chocolate eater but that does sound good. Lee > > From: "Laura" <invalid@sample.invalid> > > Subject: Re: Diet in (semi) crisis - Calories, Exercise, Points and what [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > Golden: 100 cal/3g fat/3g fiber = 1.6 points===>2 pt > Carrot Cake: 100 cal/3g fat/3g fiber = 1.6 points===>2 pt Unfortunately, they are 3 small cupcakes. More of a tease. I won't buy them anymore. Plus sugar causes cravings so I try and avoid it if I can. > I kinda wish you hadn't posted this... not a chocolate eater but that does > sound good. Lee [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > Golden: 100 cal/3g fat/3g fiber = 1.6 points===>2 pt > > Carrot Cake: 100 cal/3g fat/3g fiber = 1.6 points===>2 pt it doesn't make me crave more, but I am learning my body really doesn't like it, not even in splenda form, Lee > Unfortunately, they are 3 small cupcakes. More of a tease. I won't buy them > anymore. Plus sugar causes cravings so I try and avoid it if I can. [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > > > Golden: 100 cal/3g fat/3g fiber = 1.6 points===>2 pt > > > Carrot Cake: 100 cal/3g fat/3g fiber = 1.6 points===>2 pt Have you ever been tested for food allergies? You seem to have multiple foods that your body reacts to in negative ways. > it doesn't make me crave more, but I am learning my body really doesn't like > it, not even in splenda form, Lee [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > > > > Golden: 100 cal/3g fat/3g fiber = 1.6 points===>2 pt > > > > Carrot Cake: 100 cal/3g fat/3g fiber = 1.6 points===>2 pt have never been formally tested, the one time I went to the allergist I tested no allergies for 65 things. I went to a clinic at Barnes hospital in St. Louis... after the test I realized the allergist was uncomfortable... then he says you look so familiar and I know I haven't seen you in my office... I said no but you have seen both of my parents, I give him their names he leaves and returns in ten minutes... and says...:1. your father has multiple allergies and so does your mother. 2. you are sitting here with a dog guide and have indicated you smoke. 3. Your histamine patch show normal. 4. given your genetics and lifestyle you should show positive but aren't, I can do "elite" testing but it is around $10k *back in the 80s* so I said no thanks... then he says take benadryl for 2 weeks every day before you go to bed. then eliminate every single thing you have an overt reaction to and then after six months add one back at a time and see what happens... I tell you all of this because I am rambling and I am in fact to lots of things... odd things like I can eat fresh berries including strawberries, but if I eat even a single berry that is frozen I swell and have difficulty breathing... recently I seemed to have a reaction to black berries that were frozen so I will have to not do that again.. Lee, with a list for migraines. a list for hives. Alist for breathing difficulty, and a list for puking > Have you ever been tested for food allergies? You seem to have multiple > foods that your body reacts to in negative ways. [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] > > > > > Golden: 100 cal/3g fat/3g fiber = 1.6 points===>2 pt > > > > > Carrot Cake: 100 cal/3g fat/3g fiber = 1.6 points===>2 pt I think allergy testing has come a long way since the 80's. It might be worth getting tested again. You may have developed new allergies too. There are no allergies in my family history but my sister recently discovered that she is allergic to eggs and shellfish which as a kid and young adult she could eat without any problems. I don't know if it could be menopausal related (she's 54) or not but the timing is about right. > have never been formally tested, the one time I went to the allergist I > tested no allergies for 65 things. I went to a clinic at Barnes hospital [quoted text clipped - 83 lines] >> > > > > Golden: 100 cal/3g fat/3g fiber = 1.6 points===>2 pt >> > > > > Carrot Cake: 100 cal/3g fat/3g fiber = 1.6 points===>2 pt Honestly, I have developed enough coping mechanisms that I am not really interested in spending the time, let alone the money for the testing... even at their worst, they generally aren't life threatening so trial and error and major avoidance seems to work, I have read menopause can trigger/change allergies, Lee > I think allergy testing has come a long way since the 80's. It might be > worth getting tested again. You may have developed new allergies too. There [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > >> > > > sound good. Lee > >> > > > Laura <invalid@sample.invalid> wrote in message news:_KxWh.341528$5j1.141591@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... > >> > > > > > From: "Laura" <invalid@sample.invalid> > >> > > > > > Subject: Re: Diet in (semi) crisis - Calories, Exercise, Points [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > >> > > > > Golden: 100 cal/3g fat/3g fiber = 1.6 points===>2 pt > >> > > > > Carrot Cake: 100 cal/3g fat/3g fiber = 1.6 points===>2 pt Not to be a doom caller Lee, but allergies that have always been mild can turn deadly any time... besides, if things make you swell and makes it hard to breathe, that sounds awefully like anaphylexia (however you spell that stuff) don't mess with allergies lady! Will~ > Honestly, I have developed enough coping mechanisms that I am not really > interested in spending the time, let alone the money for the testing... [quoted text clipped - 121 lines] >> >> > > > > Golden: 100 cal/3g fat/3g fiber = 1.6 points===>2 pt >> >> > > > > Carrot Cake: 100 cal/3g fat/3g fiber = 1.6 points===>2 pt I meant they aren't currently life threatening, for me, and that is only because I am so careful... like today, we were in Wal-Mart, THE SAMPLE LADY was there, she had coke plus... DH and I had just been discussing this as something for us to sell, so we rushed right up to the table, the lady automatically started to hand us the little sample cup... DH stepped back and reached for the nutritional facts... had aspertain in it so not for me or him... the e nice thing was the paper there specifically said to read the whole thing if you are prone to allergies... and if you can tolerate the sweetener it had zinc and magnesium added I think, not a bad product for a soda. and to also let you know just how careful you should be if you are prone to allergies, I have started noticing a bit of reaction to other berries besides strawberries when they are frozen, so I don't eat them out at all anymore unless I am sure they are fresh, Lee > Not to be a doom caller Lee, but allergies that have always been mild can > turn deadly any time... [quoted text clipped - 129 lines] > >> >> > > > > Golden: 100 cal/3g fat/3g fiber = 1.6 points===>2 pt > >> >> > > > > Carrot Cake: 100 cal/3g fat/3g fiber = 1.6 points===>2 pt :o) >I meant they aren't currently life threatening, for me, and that is only > because I am so careful... like today, we were in Wal-Mart, THE SAMPLE [quoted text clipped - 168 lines] >> >> >> > > > > pt >> >> >> > > > > Carrot Cake: 100 cal/3g fat/3g fiber = 1.6 points===>2 pt Concerning your reaction to frozen fruits-is it possible that there are added chemicals/preservatives used in their freezing process that you are reacting to? The bag of frozen berries from Costco does not list ingredients so I can't check for you. >I meant they aren't currently life threatening, for me, and that is only > because I am so careful... like today, we were in Wal-Mart, THE SAMPLE [quoted text clipped - 168 lines] >> >> >> > > > > pt >> >> >> > > > > Carrot Cake: 100 cal/3g fat/3g fiber = 1.6 points===>2 pt That is what I thought at first so I went and got fresh strawberries from my mom's garden, washed them, and she doesn't use chemicals then froze them, with and without greens, bought benadryl, after they were frozen I tried them and they still bothered me, so whatever chemical changes there are in the freezing process is what bothers me, something in the berries... but my body is weird, I have no trouble eating canned pineapple but fresh tears up my stomach... like I said very weird... one theory put forth by an eye doctor is that due to the amount of medication I have taken for my eyes that it has screwed with my blood chemistry, Lee > Concerning your reaction to frozen fruits-is it possible that there are > added chemicals/preservatives used in their freezing process that you are [quoted text clipped - 107 lines] > >> >> >> > it, not even in splenda form, Lee > >> >> >> > Laura <xnotmex@example.invalid> wrote in message news:xgzWh.341945$5j1.173410@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... > >> >> >> > > Unfortunately, they are 3 small cupcakes. More of a tease. I > > won't [quoted text clipped - 63 lines] > >> >> >> > > > > pt > >> >> >> > > > > Carrot Cake: 100 cal/3g fat/3g fiber = 1.6 points===>2 pt I do like the 1 point chocolate ones. I have found that if I give myself these little low point sweets as a reward at some point during the day I do way way better overall because I do not feel deprived. My other current favorite is the 2 point rice krispie treats. I buy them bulk (individually packed) at BJ's. Melissa in NJ > From: "Laura" <inva...@sample.invalid> > Subject: Re: Diet in (semi) crisis - Calories, Exercise, Points and what [quoted text clipped - 122 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Cup cakes YAYAE!! ha hahaaaaaaa How many calories? Do calories come in fractions? This gets me thinking aout whole wheat cupcakes sitting on the window frame. With lemon insides (yeah!), and that crustly sprinkly stuff that they put on ice cream. It might look fuzzy on a cupcake but I bet it will taste great :) Thanks for the idea.. http://telecommuniqueasian.blogspot.com/ > > From: "Laura" <inva...@sample.invalid> > > Subject: Re: Diet in (semi) crisis - Calories, Exercise, Points and what [quoted text clipped - 129 lines] > on ice cream. It might look fuzzy on a cupcake but I bet it will taste > great :) Thanks for the idea..http://telecommuniqueasian.blogspot.com/ The fractions Laura was talking about pertain to WW points not calories. These hostess cakes are only 100 calories and they are super tasty! The chocolate ones are my favorite. I was on YoutTube the other a day and I found another person who likes the chocolate ones as much as I do....haha it's pretty funny! http://youtube.com/watch?v=umP7uhP_eLI Wouldn't they be 2 pts per package?...GG >> > From: "Laura" <inva...@sample.invalid> >> > Subject: Re: Diet in (semi) crisis - Calories, Exercise, Points and [quoted text clipped - 147 lines] > as I do....haha it's pretty funny! > http://youtube.com/watch?v=umP7uhP_eLI From my earlier post: Chocolate: 100 cal/3g fat/5g fiber = 1.4 points===>1 pt Golden: 100 cal/3g fat/3g fiber = 1.6 points===>2 pt Carrot Cake: 100 cal/3g fat/3g fiber = 1.6 points===>2 pt I count the choc ones as 2 points. > Wouldn't they be 2 pts per package?...GG >>> [quoted text clipped - 161 lines] >> as I do....haha it's pretty funny! >> http://youtube.com/watch?v=umP7uhP_eLI > From my earlier post: > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > I count the choc ones as 2 points. Look the Hostess 100 cal snacks were written up in adrants.com which is a prominent marketing and advertising news blog. The blog comments on a micro-site that Hostess made to promote these new snacks. In this site you can get a napkin holder to serenade your favorite flavor. It's a little silly but it is sort of funny too... http://www.adrants.com/2007/03/100-calorie-crooner-sparks-dilemma-betwee.php This "point counting" is utter nonsense. Instead, use your common sense. Stay away from these junk food items altogether. Eating "light" junk food simply fuels your cravings for junk food in general. It's not difficult to stay away from junk food by believing that you don't LIKE it! This takes discipline at first, then it becomes automatic. It is the easiest way to ensure that you lose weight and eat nutritious food at the same time. Ever heard that natural unprocessed fruits and veggies are healthful and delicious? And that water is both essential to health and filling? WW won't tell you that because they don't want to lose paying members. > From: "Laura" <invalid@sample.invalid> > Subject: Re: Diet in (semi) crisis - Calories, Exercise, Points and what [quoted text clipped - 96 lines] > > Audrey Snipping usual non-sense > Ever heard that natural unprocessed fruits and veggies are healthful and > delicious? And that water is both essential to health and filling? WW > won't tell you that because they don't want to lose paying members. Huh.. that's actually what the Core plan (one of the two food plan at WW) is all about... funny that someone soooooo knowledgable didn't know that.. Keep digging honey.. Will~ |
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